» » » » » So you when you shed the hell and back did you immediately stop
» » Dut.,
» » » or
» » » » » did you continue for six months or more and then give up?
» » » »
» » » » i took dut for three and a half years. I shed for the first year.
» So
» » I
» » » was
» » » » on dut for two and a half years after the shed stopped.
» » »
» » » Un freakon believable Marco. Have you found anyone elso that had this
» » » problem? Mass shedding with Dutasteride as apposed to finasteride.
» » »
» »
» » Hairtech- you covered the theories on why Marco had a shed due to the
» DHT
» » or alpha II/III inhibitors but why the shed due to an entirely
» different
» » substance such as Minoxidil? Do you feel that an ingredient in the foam
» » that is not present in the liquid could have something to do with this?
» » This baffles me- I have never understood the mechanics behind the so
» » called “good shed”. When I shed, it usually is because of stress and I
» » know that is a bad thing.
»
»
» MPB, I think it is something like this and it is a theory but not a fact.
» Telogen can be a stable phase, that is a fact. In other words hair can
» stay firmly attached for a long long time in teloge but it is not doing
» anyhting and cannot grow because it is retracted from the matrix and is
» not fed by matrix cells. Again that is a fact and body hair is an example
» where the majotrity of hair is in this phase. There are messangers that
» cause hair to detach. Caspases etc. Then there is a phase that is not
» often mentioned called kenogen (empty follicle). Many tratments stimulate
» the transformation from telogen to kinogen but… and this
» is the theory, if that can not be orchestrated with a new anagen then you
» are on a lose lose. Basically the theory is that some people can only half
» react to a treatment.
» » » Waiting…
» »
» »
» » Thanks Hairtech - that would be interesting to know how a vasodilator
» » causes hair to go telogen.
»
» That is an oxymoron because vasoconstrictors do this… .
Huh?
» I didn’t think it was uncommon to shed during stress… at least that was
» what the dermatologist said. I was at one point getting corticosteroid
» shots to the head. What causes this intermittent stress- probably the
» reality of baldness:-( -how ironic. If it wasnt the case- what do you
» believe the case to be?
I will be staight with you… So I have never heard of corticosteroid injections in the scalp unless it was in keloid scars. Are you freakon serious? So tell me MPB where did you get the shots? In every portion of your recipient area that was having shedding?
» » I didn’t think it was uncommon to shed during stress… at least that
» was
» » what the dermatologist said. I was at one point getting corticosteroid
» » shots to the head. What causes this intermittent stress- probably the
» » reality of baldness:-( -how ironic. If it wasnt the case- what do you
» » believe the case to be?
»
» I will be staight with you… So I have never heard of corticosteroid
» injections in the scalp unless it was in keloid scars. Are you freakon
» serious? So tell me MPB where did you get the shots? In every portion of
» your recipient area that was having shedding?
I once had such a bout of stress induced anxiety that I believe I may have been experiencing some type of alopecia areata b/c I had an area in my supposedly “safe zone” that was completely smooth bald. It had to be b/c the hair grew back. Whether it was due to the shots- who knows. Seriously- you’ve never heard of corticosteroid injections?
» » I didn’t think it was uncommon to shed during stress… at least that
» was
» » what the dermatologist said. I was at one point getting corticosteroid
» » shots to the head. What causes this intermittent stress- probably the
» » reality of baldness:-( -how ironic. If it wasnt the case- what do you
» » believe the case to be?
»
» I will be staight with you… So I have never heard of corticosteroid
» injections in the scalp unless it was in keloid scars. Are you freakon
» serious? So tell me MPB where did you get the shots? In every portion of
» your recipient area that was having shedding?
A quote from Dr. Harris’s book specifically addressing stress…
"It is a common yet mistaken belief that physical trauma and mental stress, including anguish, and fear, causes hair loss. Patients are constantly telling us that they didn’t start balding until their daughter started dating, or they began feeling pressure of financial of financial strain, or they were going through divorce. Still others swear that their hair loss began after receiving some type of physical blow or trauma to the head, typically the reult of an accident. Are these reasons valid? No. Although stress can speed up hairloss, especially in women, it is not the root cause.
From a psychological standpoint, what these people believe has caused their hair loss is actually a delayed reaction to a process that already begun. In other words, their hair began to thin BEFORE the accident or BEFORE their daughter started dating. Only afterwards, in a state of hightened awareness from the trauma or stress, did they start to focus on their thinning hair- and this is typical of a psychological reaction."
Yes I have heard of this but are you diagnosed with bouts (paroxysmal) of Alopecia areata… non-scarring patchy areas of hairloss that returns in time?
» » » I didn’t think it was uncommon to shed during stress… at least that
» » was
» » » what the dermatologist said. I was at one point getting
» corticosteroid
» » » shots to the head. What causes this intermittent stress- probably the
» » » reality of baldness:-( -how ironic. If it wasnt the case- what do you
» » » believe the case to be?
» »
» » I will be staight with you… So I have never heard of corticosteroid
» » injections in the scalp unless it was in keloid scars. Are you freakon
» » serious? So tell me MPB where did you get the shots? In every portion
» of
» » your recipient area that was having shedding?
»
» A quote from Dr. Harris’s book specifically addressing stress…
»
» “It is a common yet mistaken belief that physical trauma and mental
» stress, including anguish, and fear, causes hair loss. Patients are
» constantly telling us that they didn’t start balding until their daughter
» started dating, or they began feeling pressure of financial of financial
» strain, or they were going through divorce. Still others swear that their
» hair loss began after receiving some type of physical blow or trauma to
» the head, typically the reult of an accident. Are these reasons valid? No.
» Although stress can speed up hairloss, especially in women, it is not the
» root cause.
»
» From a psychological standpoint, what these people believe has caused
» their hair loss is actually a delayed reaction to a process that already
» begun. In other words, their hair began to thin BEFORE the accident or
» BEFORE their daughter started dating. Only afterwards, in a state of
» hightened awareness from the trauma or stress, did they start to focus on
» their thinning hair- and this is typical of a psychological reaction.”
That would explain permanent hair loss- what about these situations where the hair grows back completely after these massive sheds. Like telogen effluvium or what I’ve experienced. Don’t you believe stress induced hair loss is a controversial subject anyway. I find many dermatologists that have different views than Dr. Harris. I was even a patient of the famous Dr. David Whiting and he seemed to have the opinion that stress can definitely cause temporary hair loss.
» Yes I have heard of this but are you diagnosed with bouts (paroxysmal) of
» Alopecia areata… non-scarring patchy areas of hairloss that returns in
» time?
I haven’t had a bout in a long time. To tell you the truth I believe it was brought on as a direct result of my second strip surgury which left me a gaping scar in the back which really messed me up psychologically. I don’t think I have slept the same since.
» » Yes I have heard of this but are you diagnosed with bouts (paroxysmal)
» of
» » Alopecia areata… non-scarring patchy areas of hairloss that returns
» in
» » time?
»
» I haven’t had a bout in a long time. To tell you the truth I believe it
» was brought on as a direct result of my second strip surgury which left me
» a gaping scar in the back which really messed me up psychologically. I
» don’t think I have slept the same since.
So get a picture here with your scar and get several opinions from different clinics, seasoned posters, and hopefully physicians if it can be revised or transplanted.
» » » Yes I have heard of this but are you diagnosed with bouts (paroxysmal)
» » of
» » » Alopecia areata… non-scarring patchy areas of hairloss that returns
» » in
» » » time?
» »
» » I haven’t had a bout in a long time. To tell you the truth I believe it
» » was brought on as a direct result of my second strip surgury which left
» me
» » a gaping scar in the back which really messed me up psychologically. I
» » don’t think I have slept the same since.
»
» So get a picture here with your scar and get several opinions from
» different clinics, seasoned posters, and hopefully physicians if it can be
» revised or transplanted.
I recently had BHT transplanted in the scar from Dr. Umar. Hopefully it will provide decent coverage. I am only 5 months out. This is my second session (first with Dr. Umar) The middle portion, although not like it used to be at least it does not have the feeling of raw skin anymore and it does seem to be broken up a little better. The edges by the ears seem to be the problem areas. I am in the process of getting pictures as soon as my girlfriend /photographer remembers to bring her friggen camera.
» » » » Yes I have heard of this but are you diagnosed with bouts
» (paroxysmal)
» » » of
» » » » Alopecia areata… non-scarring patchy areas of hairloss that
» returns
» » » in
» » » » time?
» » »
» » » I haven’t had a bout in a long time. To tell you the truth I believe
» it
» » » was brought on as a direct result of my second strip surgury which
» left
» » me
» » » a gaping scar in the back which really messed me up psychologically.
» I
» » » don’t think I have slept the same since.
» »
» » So get a picture here with your scar and get several opinions from
» » different clinics, seasoned posters, and hopefully physicians if it can
» be
» » revised or transplanted.
»
» I recently had BHT transplanted in the scar from Dr. Umar. Hopefully it
» will provide decent coverage. I am only 5 months out. This is my second
» session (first with Dr. Umar) The middle portion, although not like it
» used to be at least it does not have the feeling of raw skin anymore and
» it does seem to be broken up a little better. The edges by the ears seem
» to be the problem areas. I am in the process of getting pictures as soon
» as my girlfriend /photographer remembers to bring her friggen camera.
Freakon women dude… 
Marco… give the buzzed look a try. I never thought I would like it but then I had a traumatic event and then I wanted to start things over and I did this with a buzz cut. Well I after a few days, I realized that I like this look for me. And since you and I have similar characteristics, I want to pass to you because it might hold you over until you settle on an HT doctor… or HM. Yes when I first came to work I was worried how people would look at me but I am fortunate that it looks ok… amd I think you would look good too. Alot of posters don’t have this option. Because they have been scarred by flaps, poor strip closures, or punches that are ridiculously large. Basically, larger than the 0.75mm.
I know ghost readers are saying… "hairtech, you don’t have hairloss you don’t have hairloss so u don’t understand. And that is true… I cannot fully relate to massive shedding, f**ked up flap scarring, large punch scarring, but I do have an abnormality… severe asthma… which means I cannot breath like normal people… which means my life expectancy is not like normal people even if I take complete care of myself, which I don’t. This because asthma is categorized as controlled or like me which is I have to keep up with my stupid inhaler every day I wake up.
My point is this… Marco give the buzzed look a try… it may be awkward for a couple of days… but then it may change your self perception.
I DONT like the Shampoo
even though it has the keto it has Hydrochloric acid in it and it only stays on your head a few minutes anyway, I would avoid it
I used the shampoo for about a week and my crown at the end of the week had ZERO HAIRS it wass totally totally bald like I had shaved it, I think it is the acid that did that
The japanese study participants used the cream I believe and after shampooing when their hair was still damp,
I also think that anyone including you, who is not on a super hair vitamin , is making a mistake, I would never dream of stopping mine and I am responding to many treatments, but would not risk taking that important part of my regimen away
for 20 yrs I didnt have any other thing in my regimen except the vits mins so I know they are critical to assisting with fighting hair loss,
» » » I didn’t think it was uncommon to shed during stress… at least that
» » was
» » » what the dermatologist said. I was at one point getting
» corticosteroid
» » » shots to the head. What causes this intermittent stress- probably the
» » » reality of baldness:-( -how ironic. If it wasnt the case- what do you
» » » believe the case to be?
» »
» » I will be staight with you… So I have never heard of corticosteroid
» » injections in the scalp unless it was in keloid scars. Are you freakon
» » serious? So tell me MPB where did you get the shots? In every portion
» of
» » your recipient area that was having shedding?
»
» A quote from Dr. Harris’s book specifically addressing stress…
»
» “It is a common yet mistaken belief that physical trauma and mental
» stress, including anguish, and fear, causes hair loss. Patients are
» constantly telling us that they didn’t start balding until their daughter
» started dating, or they began feeling pressure of financial of financial
» strain, or they were going through divorce. Still others swear that their
» hair loss began after receiving some type of physical blow or trauma to
» the head, typically the reult of an accident. Are these reasons valid? No.
» Although stress can speed up hairloss, especially in women, it is not the
» root cause.
»
» From a psychological standpoint, what these people believe has caused
» their hair loss is actually a delayed reaction to a process that already
» begun. In other words, their hair began to thin BEFORE the accident or
» BEFORE their daughter started dating. Only afterwards, in a state of
» hightened awareness from the trauma or stress, did they start to focus on
» their thinning hair- and this is typical of a psychological reaction.”
Stress causes hair loss because it robs the body of B Vitamins
same reason why a lot of sugar causes hair loss…same reason why the super hair vitamins have so much B in them…folic acid, Biotin etc are B vitamins
I do not think most hair tranplant docs are very interested in preventing hair loss and the methods involved
the more you lose the more you need the docs procedures
if a cure for hairloss ever came about , they would be out of business
I can see your point hanging but I know a few docs that really care and would rather not transplant and would rather see a solution come into play instead of HT. When I say few docs… I literally mean a few docs.
Where were you getting your DUT from. How come no one has asked this question?
You have no hair loss 
seriously
So I woke up this morning thinking about all of us not really coming to any sort of conclusion about Marco and why he shedded massively. And then MPB getting corticosteroid injections into his scalp. What an odd Sunday.
» I can see your point hanging but I know a few docs that really care and
» would rather not transplant and would rather see a solution come into play
» instead of HT. When I say few docs… I literally mean a few docs.
saying hair transplant surgeons are remotely knowledgeable about or care about hair loss prevention treatments, is like saying car mechanics are very interested in developing cars where the engines fix themselves, the brakes change themselves, tires change themselves. etc
ain’t gonna happen
You are probably right hangin…