» Yup. America’s got all the answers… that’s why most of our food contains
» corn syrup derivatives that onset diabetes and obesity. Cattle parts are
» fed to cattle in effort to save a few bucks, meat filler’s sanitized with
» ammonia in massive washing machines because keeping cattle clean to
» stay-off e coli is simply inefficient, the world’s economy gone down the
» toilet while the perpetrators are given billions in bonuses, gun rights
» supersede healthcare reform, the solution to the oil leak off the gulf
» coast is to fill the pipe with shredded tires and golf balls, and many
» retired FDA officials go to work as special advisors to the pharmaceutical
» and food industries.
»
» Now don’t get me wrong, America’s a country full of decent people;
» unfortunately, it’s been taken hostage by its corporations and their
» special interest groups… that includes the FDA.
»
»
Good point. IMO the FDA is nothing but a bunch of bureaucratic sellouts. Where do you think most of them end up working after their early paid government retirement program? Yep- pharmaceutical companies. No conflict of interest here! They’re money grubbers just like any other governmental agency.
» Yup. America’s got all the answers… that’s why most of our food contains
» corn syrup derivatives that onset diabetes and obesity. Cattle parts are
» fed to cattle in effort to save a few bucks, meat filler’s sanitized with
» ammonia in massive washing machines because keeping cattle clean to
» stay-off e coli is simply inefficient, the world’s economy gone down the
» toilet while the perpetrators are given billions in bonuses, gun rights
» supersede healthcare reform, the solution to the oil leak off the gulf
» coast is to fill the pipe with shredded tires and golf balls, and many
» retired FDA officials go to work as special advisors to the pharmaceutical
» and food industries.
»
» Now don’t get me wrong, America’s a country full of decent people;
» unfortunately, it’s been taken hostage by its corporations and their
» special interest groups… that includes the FDA.
More “THE FDA WANTS TO KEEP US BALD!” paranoia. Do you know what a “straw man argument” is? You just made one.
Sorry, when dealing with protocols that could have life-threatening complications, I prefer to rely on the FDA. Is it perfect? No, but its better than any other testing regiment from any other country. If Histogen has a viable product, then why don’t they test it in the States? Cost? If they have a viable product, investors should be breaking down their door, so funding shouldn’t be a problem. Aderans seems to think FDA approval is worth it.
» I have never said that Histogen couldn’t get the product cleared outside
» the USA. They can do that, and possibly they will.
»
» I have said, and I am still saying, that Histogen cannot get through the
» American FDA by 2015. That is not even close to being plausible.
»
» The FDA is not the only regulatory group that is worth listening to, but
» they are a decent one to trust.
»
» No matter what they do to test the product, testing it on humans for 10
» years tells us a lot more about its safety than testing it for 5 years.
» Whether it’s 10 years in the American FDA, 10 years in some other nation
» with a similar clinical trials process, whatever. The important thing is
» the 10 years.
» IMO the FDA is nothing but a bunch of bureaucratic sellouts.
» Where do you think most of them end up working after their early paid
» government retirement program? Yep- pharmaceutical companies. No conflict
» of interest here! They’re money grubbers just like any other governmental
» agency.
»
» More “THE FDA WANTS TO KEEP US BALD!” paranoia. Do
» Sorry, when dealing with protocols that could have life-threatening
» complications, I prefer to rely on the FDA. Is it perfect? No, but its
» better than any other testing regiment from any other country. If Histogen
» has a viable product, then why don’t they test it in the States? Cost? If
» they have a viable product, investors should be breaking down their door,
» so funding shouldn’t be a problem. Aderans seems to think FDA approval is
» worth it.
»
» Hair isn’t worth risking your health for.
Its just a little bit insulting however when you totally dismiss other countries and their safety standards. Maybe it it is cost maybe it is beauracracy thats not the say other trials in other countires are completely useless. I’m not interested in a slagging match but to be fair the American health care industry is not exactly the model we should all hope to be a part of.
» »
» » More “THE FDA WANTS TO KEEP US BALD!” paranoia. Do
» » Sorry, when dealing with protocols that could have life-threatening
» » complications, I prefer to rely on the FDA. Is it perfect? No, but
» its
» » better than any other testing regiment from any other country. If
» Histogen
» » has a viable product, then why don’t they test it in the States? Cost?
» If
» » they have a viable product, investors should be breaking down their
» door,
» » so funding shouldn’t be a problem. Aderans seems to think FDA approval
» is
» » worth it.
» »
» » Hair isn’t worth risking your health for.
»
» Its just a little bit insulting however when you totally dismiss other
» countries and their safety standards. Maybe it it is cost maybe it is
» beauracracy thats not the say other trials in other countires are
» completely useless. I’m not interested in a slagging match but to be fair
» the American health care industry is not exactly the model we should all
» hope to be a part of.
» » Yup. America’s got all the answers… that’s why most of our food
» contains
» » corn syrup derivatives that onset diabetes and obesity. Cattle parts
» are
» » fed to cattle in effort to save a few bucks, meat filler’s sanitized
» with
» » ammonia in massive washing machines because keeping cattle clean to
» » stay-off e coli is simply inefficient, the world’s economy gone down
» the
» » toilet while the perpetrators are given billions in bonuses, gun rights
» » supersede healthcare reform, the solution to the oil leak off the gulf
» » coast is to fill the pipe with shredded tires and golf balls, and many
» » retired FDA officials go to work as special advisors to the
» pharmaceutical
» » and food industries.
» »
» » Now don’t get me wrong, America’s a country full of decent people;
» » unfortunately, it’s been taken hostage by its corporations and their
» » special interest groups… that includes the FDA.
»
» More “THE FDA WANTS TO KEEP US BALD!” paranoia. Do you know what a “straw
» man argument” is? You just made one.
»
» Sorry, when dealing with protocols that could have life-threatening
» complications, I prefer to rely on the FDA. Is it perfect? No, but its
» better than any other testing regiment from any other country. If Histogen
» has a viable product, then why don’t they test it in the States? Cost? If
» they have a viable product, investors should be breaking down their door,
» so funding shouldn’t be a problem. Aderans seems to think FDA approval is
» worth it.
»
» Hair isn’t worth risking your health for.
lol… “but its better than any other testing regiment from any other country”… do you TRUELY believe that? The FDA is one of the most corrupt insane agencies in the world… and most defiantly not one of the best… if u really think that way i highly recommend you educate yourself on the topic… there is ALOT of information out there on the web about how the FDA is a special interest regulatory instrument…
» » » Yup. America’s got all the answers… that’s why most of our food
» » contains
» » » corn syrup derivatives that onset diabetes and obesity. Cattle parts
» » are
» » » fed to cattle in effort to save a few bucks, meat filler’s sanitized
» » with
» » » ammonia in massive washing machines because keeping cattle clean to
» » » stay-off e coli is simply inefficient, the world’s economy gone down
» » the
» » » toilet while the perpetrators are given billions in bonuses, gun
» rights
» » » supersede healthcare reform, the solution to the oil leak off the
» gulf
» » » coast is to fill the pipe with shredded tires and golf balls, and
» many
» » » retired FDA officials go to work as special advisors to the
» » pharmaceutical
» » » and food industries.
» » »
» » » Now don’t get me wrong, America’s a country full of decent people;
» » » unfortunately, it’s been taken hostage by its corporations and their
» » » special interest groups… that includes the FDA.
» »
» » More “THE FDA WANTS TO KEEP US BALD!” paranoia. Do you know what a
» “straw
» » man argument” is? You just made one.
» »
» » Sorry, when dealing with protocols that could have life-threatening
» » complications, I prefer to rely on the FDA. Is it perfect? No, but
» its
» » better than any other testing regiment from any other country. If
» Histogen
» » has a viable product, then why don’t they test it in the States? Cost?
» If
» » they have a viable product, investors should be breaking down their
» door,
» » so funding shouldn’t be a problem. Aderans seems to think FDA approval
» is
» » worth it.
» »
» » Hair isn’t worth risking your health for.
»
» lol… “but its better than any other testing regiment from any other
» country”… do you TRUELY believe that? The FDA is one of the most corrupt
» insane agencies in the world… and most defiantly not one of the best… if
» u really think that way i highly recommend you educate yourself on the
» topic… there is ALOT of information out there on the web about how the FDA
» is a special interest regulatory instrument…
fckrls you talking serious crap and you know that.
Everybody even we germans know that the FDA is just a pro forma thing and all of them can be bought off.
And believe if some of them is bald and Histogen give him a free procedure then this will be faster on the US-Market then you can post one of your stupid and ignorant rants here.
You say life threatening, man are you with one of the HT Docs? BTW if you are here to say NAY all the friggin time then stay away from these Threads about HM and come back in your fugging 10 Years…but i doubt that anybody of us will be here at this time, we will enjoy our full head of hair and a fckrls-free zone thats for sure
. I’m not interested in a slagging match but to be fair
» the American health care industry is not exactly the model we should all
» hope to be a part of.
Why not? Its by FAR the most innovative, best-funded in the world. Of the three HM protocols we’re discussing (Histogen, Aderans, Follica), ALL of them were developed in the States and led by US-trained research docs. What are we getting from the rest of the world? Paul Whitfield and Gho? LOL - case closed.
» . I’m not interested in a slagging match but to be fair
» » the American health care industry is not exactly the model we should
» all
» » hope to be a part of.
»
» Why not? Its by FAR the most innovative, best-funded in the world. Of
» the three HM protocols we’re discussing (Histogen, Aderans, Follica), ALL
» of them were developed in the States and led by US-trained research docs.
» What are we getting from the rest of the world? Paul Whitfield and Gho?
» LOL - case closed.
WOW when i read stupid stuff like that iam ashamed to be a human being.
US-Health Care = best-funded in the world. Are you serious? Its the most disturbing System, it is expensive like hell, no or not a good health insurance.
Believe the british, the french the canadian or even the german ones are far more advanced then the US-System.
Are we talking most innovative & best funded? Or are we talking about the country that does the best job at keeping its citizens healthy on average?
The USA is indeed the most innovative & best funded as a whole. The money invested is huge and the new drugs & treatments invented are huge too.
The per-capita health of the average US citizen is not the best in the world. The USA is not nearly as healthy per citizen compared to the money spent on them, because quite a bit of corporate profits are being made in the process. (Which also has a little something to do with why the USA has been so innovative.) I am not calling it good or bad, I am just saying that’s what is.
And all that is a different issue from our common goal. We aren’t waiting for the average per-capita hair count in any one single country to get high enough to give us our hair back. We’re just waiting for something to come out that helps a priviledged few who can pay for it, which happens to include us. (If you’re living on more than $2/day then you’re in the wealthier portion of the world’s population.) That means the USA’s business plan happens to suit our purpose quite well.
» Are we talking most innovative & best funded? Or are we talking about the
» country that does the best job at keeping its citizens healthy on average?
»
» The USA is indeed the most innovative & best funded as a whole. The money
» invested is huge and the new drugs & treatments invented are huge too.
»
» The per-capita health of the average US citizen is not the best in the
» world.
Compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges, which is what per-capita health indexes do. When you do this (which is to say, compare white Americans to white Europeans), there is no discrepancy in quality of health between the two populations.
The bottom line is that the rest of the world gets a free ride on America’s healthcare innovation. The only reason socialist healthcare systems like those found in the EU function is because they get to benefit from the research (and underwritten costs) funded by America. I know the euros’ egos are fragile and that they lash out with silly, unsubstantiated, nationalistic claims to the contrary, but in private they’ll admit its true.
Like I said, all the HM protocols we’re discussing are the direct result of US innovation. The rest of the world has offered us ICX, Paul Whitfield, and Gho - in other words, complete skams.
» » Are we talking most innovative & best funded? Or are we talking about
» the
» » country that does the best job at keeping its citizens healthy on
» average?
» »
» » The USA is indeed the most innovative & best funded as a whole. The
» money
» » invested is huge and the new drugs & treatments invented are huge too.
»
» »
» » The per-capita health of the average US citizen is not the best in the
» » world.
»
» Compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges, which is what per-capita
» health indexes do. When you do this (which is to say, compare white
» Americans to white Europeans), there is no discrepancy in quality of health
» between the two populations.
»
» The bottom line is that the rest of the world gets a free ride on
» America’s healthcare innovation. The only reason socialist healthcare
» systems like those found in the EU function is because they get to benefit
» from the research (and underwritten costs) funded by America. I know the
» euros’ egos are fragile and that they lash out with silly, unsubstantiated,
» nationalistic claims to the contrary, but in private they’ll admit its
» true.
»
» Like I said, all the HM protocols we’re discussing are the direct result
» of US innovation. The rest of the world has offered us ICX, Paul
» Whitfield, and Gho - in other words, complete skams.
Its almost amazing that the rest of the world is even capable of surviving, your indifference to anything medical outside the US is pretty ignorant. Hair loss research is just one part of medicine. There has been tissue engineered organ transplants that have taken place in barcelona and london that have been successful which is groundbreaking. America is a amazing and truly great country, but there are other great countries that are innovative and more than capable of carrying out trials and research to an extremely high degree. On that maybe Histogen decided to go to singapore because they are quicker in their trials and maybe thats because they dont have the inefficiencies of the FDA trials. All I ask is please do not be so indifferent to the capabilities of other countries.
Fckrls you talk like a white trash hobo redneck white supremacist. Are you kidding me?
You are a stupid prigg you know a lot of technological improvements are based on european or german technology.
If you are so perfect? Why do all the people drive BMW or Mercedes Benz? Instead of stupid general Motors Crapp
We europeans have the best FUE Docs, you americans got only FUT Butchers
We get a free ride of Americas Healthcare? Thats just stupid plain stupid, every capitalistic nation profits from the efficency of the other countrys. Economic 101.
The american Health System is only good in one aspect " TO GAIN PROFIT" but the faith and destiny from people with serious problems is never actually the matter for them.
Even if i absolutely HATE Michael Moore, good i hate this polemic son of a bit*h but in his movie sicko he shows what i witnessed first hand when i was in the US for a long time.
» Fckrls you talk like a white trash hobo redneck white supremacist. Are you
» kidding me?
»
» You are a stupid prigg you know a lot of technological improvements are
» based on european or german technology.
»
» If you are so perfect? Why do all the people drive BMW or Mercedes Benz?
» Instead of stupid general Motors Crapp
»
» We europeans have the best FUE Docs, you americans got only FUT Butchers
»
»
» We get a free ride of Americas Healthcare? Thats just stupid plain stupid,
» every capitalistic nation profits from the efficency of the other countrys.
» Economic 101.
»
» The american Health System is only good in one aspect " TO GAIN PROFIT"
» but the faith and destiny from people with serious problems is never
» actually the matter for them.
»
» Even if i absolutely HATE Michael Moore, good i hate this polemic son of a
» bit*h but in his movie sicko he shows what i witnessed first hand when i
» was in the US for a long time.
»
» It lacks the compassion factor.
»
» fckrls : You are a fugging RACIST
» Hair loss research is just one part of medicine. There has been
» tissue engineered organ transplants that have taken place in barcelona and
» london that have been successful which is groundbreaking. America is a
» amazing and truly great country, but there are other great countries that
» are innovative and more than capable of carrying out trials and research to
» an extremely high degree. On that maybe Histogen decided to go to singapore
» because they are quicker in their trials and maybe thats because they dont
» have the inefficiencies of the FDA trials. All I ask is please do not be so
» indifferent to the capabilities of other countries.
» » Are we talking most innovative & best funded? Or are we talking about
» the
» » country that does the best job at keeping its citizens healthy on
» average?
» »
» » The USA is indeed the most innovative & best funded as a whole. The
» money
» » invested is huge and the new drugs & treatments invented are huge too.
»
» »
» » The per-capita health of the average US citizen is not the best in the
» » world.
»
» Compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges, which is what per-capita
» health indexes do. When you do this (which is to say, compare white
» Americans to white Europeans), there is no discrepancy in quality of health
» between the two populations.
»
» The bottom line is that the rest of the world gets a free ride on
» America’s healthcare innovation. The only reason socialist healthcare
» systems like those found in the EU function is because they get to benefit
» from the research (and underwritten costs) funded by America. I know the
» euros’ egos are fragile and that they lash out with silly, unsubstantiated,
» nationalistic claims to the contrary, but in private they’ll admit its
» true.
»
» Like I said, all the HM protocols we’re discussing are the direct result
» of US innovation. The rest of the world has offered us ICX, Paul
» Whitfield, and Gho - in other words, complete skams.
And this is the reason as well, WHY Dr. Gail Naughton (CEO, Histogen) has easy been able to predict the YEAR for the commercialization of their Hair Stimulating Complex (HSC) product (IF everything goes well!!):
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