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The End of an Era: First Gho, Now Intercytex


#1

Hi All,

I’ve been on these boards for quite a long time – trolling now. At one point I was newbie who thought the baldness cure was “around the corner,” meaning “only” 2-3 years away. But let’s look at the facts.

*Intercytex has cut over half of its jobs in the UK and Boston, USA as of late January
*The company only has enough cash to last 7-8 more months AT THE MOST
*Intercytex’s lead product, a treatment for venous leg ulcers, is no more effective than a 10 cent cotton bandage
*Intercytex’s stock has dropped over 90% since last year
*Intercytex’s stock has dropped over 76% TODAY
*ICX-TRC has stopped at Phase II and they still haven’t released the results
*Intercytex has finally admitted that their results are “disappointing”

It’s over guys. We fought the baldness and the baldness won.

Best,
BB


#2

Yeah, ICX’s goose is just about cooked.

This isn’t news for anyone being realistic about their situation. This has been coming a long time.

But not all the HM eggs are in this basket, though. Lately, ICX-TRC didn’t even seem like the front runner anymore to most of us.


#3

We should get use to it? don’t we? howewer it’s always a disapointement!


#4

The fat lady is certainly warming up, but she hasn’t sung yet.

» *Intercytex has cut over half of its jobs in the UK and Boston, USA as of
» late January

Yes, but those jobs where not primarily related to ICX-TRC. They were (allegedly) largely due to the fact that the ICX-PRO project had basically finished and that staff was no longer needed.

» *The company only has enough cash to last 7-8 more months AT THE MOST

Which doesn’t necessarily mean there won’t be further funding at some point.

» *Intercytex’s lead product, a treatment for venous leg ulcers, is no more
» effective than a 10 cent cotton bandage

Bummer for them. But it does not mean that ICX-TRC must fail as well.

» *Intercytex’s stock has dropped over 90% since last year

Yup, bummer. Then again, everything has dropped, admittedly perhaps not that much.

» *Intercytex’s stock has dropped over 76% TODAY

That’s what happens when you make a disappointing press release, I guess.

» *ICX-TRC has stopped at Phase II and they still haven’t released the
» results

But that is all in order if I’m not mistaken. Did they ever say they were going to release anything by now? Did they set a date and missed that deadline? I thought they said they would release the results soon, but not quite yet.

» *Intercytex has finally admitted that their results are “disappointing”

How on earth do you translate the poor performance of ICX-PRO to ICX-TRC?

I’m not certainly not delusional enough to put much stock in ICX-TRC, but why not wait until the actual results come in, instead of jumping to conclusions…


#5

http://uk.biz.yahoo.com/20022009/323/brief-intercytex-examining-strategic-options-disappointing-study-results.html

Phase III study of cyzact for the treatment of venous leg ulcers has failed
to meet its primary endpoint

  • In the light of this disappointing result the board has determined to review all strategic options for the company.

#6

ICX-PRO was the flagship product of ICX. They allocated basically all efforts to it, because it was the most viable product.
ICX never gave a shït about TRC. TRC had ridiculous resources because they knew that it had lots of problems and wasn’t a viable product.

Now that ICX-PRO has failed, everything gets vaporized.
If ICX-PRO doesn’t work, I can assure you 100% that TRC doesn’t work AT ALL.


#7

Hey! we are hairsite vets, we already know the end of the story;-)


#8

» If ICX-PRO doesn’t work, I can assure you 100% that TRC doesn’t work AT
» ALL.

How?

The odds are certainly against ICX, as they always have been. But to claim that the results of a disparate product A somehow affects the results of product B is almost absurd to me. Did I miss something?

Are the products not disparate? Admittedly I don’t know much about PRO and I (perhaps incorrectly) assumed it was a completely different product/technology.

On a side note, it is pretty funny watching the seemingly magical ability of ICX-PRO to heal ulcerous wounds in this animation given that it simply doesn’t work: http://www.intercytex.com/icx/products/pipeline/icopro_1/?t=popup


#9

» It’s over guys. We fought the baldness and the baldness won.

It’s sad but true :frowning: :frowning:


#10

what has PRO’s disappointing results got to do with TRC ???

leg ulcers and hair are in no way linked


#11

I have explained to you. Its not a matter of how simmilar are these two products.
The problem is that ICX was pretty confident that PRO was going to be a success, and they were investing loads of money into it. and it has failed.
In the meantime, Trychocite was “an affair”. ICX was never confident about TRC, and that is why they invested ridiculous amounts of money into its research.
Thus, I can tell you 100% sure, that TRC doesn’t work.

But don’t worry, now, the childish positive thinkers of this board, will think: “oh, PRO has failed, this is very good news, now ICX will dedicate all the money to TRC”.

» » If ICX-PRO doesn’t work, I can assure you 100% that TRC doesn’t work AT
» » ALL.
»
» How?
»
» The odds are certainly against ICX, as they always have been. But to claim
» that the results of a disparate product A somehow affects the results of
» product B is almost absurd to me. Did I miss something?
»
» Are the products not disparate? Admittedly I don’t know much about PRO and
» I (perhaps incorrectly) assumed it was a completely different
» product/technology.
»
» On a side note, it is pretty funny watching the seemingly magical ability
» of ICX-PRO to heal ulcerous wounds in this animation given that it simply
» doesn’t work:
» http://www.intercytex.com/icx/products/pipeline/icopro_1/?t=popup


#12

» what has PRO’s disappointing results got to do with TRC ???

I have explained to you. Its not a matter of how simmilar are these two products.
The problem is that ICX was pretty confident that PRO was going to be a success, and they were investing loads of money into it. and it has failed.
In the meantime, Trychocite was “an affair”. ICX was never confident about TRC, and that is why they invested ridiculous amounts of money into its research.
Thus, I can tell you 100% sure, that TRC doesn’t work.

» leg ulcers and hair are in no way linked

They are linked. Both use cell multiplication. Different cells, though.
And the hair cells are trickier.


#13

» On a side note, it is pretty funny watching the seemingly magical ability
» of ICX-PRO to heal ulcerous wounds in this animation given that it simply
» doesn’t work:
» http://www.intercytex.com/icx/products/pipeline/icopro_1/?t=popup

Animations are always cool :wink:


#14

» » On a side note, it is pretty funny watching the seemingly magical
» ability
» » of ICX-PRO to heal ulcerous wounds in this animation given that it
» simply
» » doesn’t work:
» »
» http://www.intercytex.com/icx/products/pipeline/icopro_1/?t=popup
»
»
» Animations are always cool :wink:

i think,this is better:-D
http://www.intercytex.com/icx/products/pipeline/icxtrc/?t=popup


#15

» » » On a side note, it is pretty funny watching the seemingly magical
» » ability
» » » of ICX-PRO to heal ulcerous wounds in this animation given that it
» » simply
» » » doesn’t work:
» » »
» »
» http://www.intercytex.com/icx/products/pipeline/icopro_1/?t=popup
» »
» »
» » Animations are always cool :wink:
»
»
» i think,this is better:-D
» http://www.intercytex.com/icx/products/pipeline/icxtrc/?t=popup

heheh …


#16

» » It’s over guys. We fought the baldness and the baldness won.
»
» It’s sad but true :frowning: :frowning:

its really sad. :frowning: :frowning: :frowning: maybe they can sell their technology to another company which then developes it to market???


#17

The whole world is FULL of CROOKS & LIARS FACT!!!


#18

» » » » On a side note, it is pretty funny watching the seemingly magical
» » » ability
» » » » of ICX-PRO to heal ulcerous wounds in this animation given that it
» » » simply
» » » » doesn’t work:
» » » »
» » »
» »
» http://www.intercytex.com/icx/products/pipeline/icopro_1/?t=popup
» » »
» » »
» » » Animations are always cool :wink:
» »
» »
» » i think,this is better:-D
» » http://www.intercytex.com/icx/products/pipeline/icxtrc/?t=popup
»
» heheh …

It looks very nice,maybe…it could works…:smiley:


#19

» Its not a matter of how simmilar are these two
» products.

So then we agree they are completely different?

» The problem is that ICX was pretty confident that PRO was going to be a
» success, and they were investing loads of money into it. and it has
» failed.

Yes. The fact that they were confident is obvious. No serious company would ever pursue a venture if they didn’t have reasonable hopes for it to lead anywhere.

» In the meantime, Trychocite was “an affair”. ICX was never confident about
» TRC, and that is why they invested ridiculous amounts of money into its
» research.

I’m sure they always had reasonable hopes for TRC as well. Perhaps not as high as for PRO. They had enough confidence to put it through phase II trials.

» Thus, I can tell you 100% sure, that TRC doesn’t work.

No, you can’t, unless you have seen the final data from the trial. And I’m assuming they are using a something like a 5% or 3% level of significance. So even if you had seen it you could only make a 95% or 97% claim.

Sometimes I think people don’t realize how science works. There are no guarantees. You have a theory and then you test it. You then reject or accept the theory based on the data at hand given the predetermined level of significance. For a given trial, the data is NOT influenced by politics, money, the performance of some other trial, whishful thinking, the number of wild geese in Canada, the opinion of people on internet forums, whining, speculation or anything else unrelated to the trial.

The scientific method is a roll of the dice in the sense that you cannot know what the results are beforehand. And even afterwards you do not know that something is true. Only that the data is pointing in that direction. It is always possible to make another trial later, which might show that conclusions from the first trial were incorrect.

For instance, if PRO had worked, it would not mean that the chances of TRC working would be greater. Don’t you agree?

» But don’t worry, now, the childish positive thinkers of this board, will
» think: “oh, PRO has failed, this is very good news, now ICX will dedicate
» all the money to TRC”.

lol! I don’t think people are THAT delusional. Then again…

Anyway, I think we have to agree to disagree. And just to be clear, I think the odds of TRC working are poor. But that has nothing to do with PRO.


#20

so pro failed does that mean all of their remaining products will fail ???

some people on here have a witchunt against TRC and will use any story which comes out of TRC and then twist and turn it and use it to undermine TRC.

It would have been more more concernin for TRC to go to phase 3 cos it would have meant more work is needed. They dont want to do phase 3. If phase 2 of TRC was bad they would have told us like they told everyone about PRO but they said the remaining products are robust.

you know 100% TRC will fail ??? the only thing u know it to talk out of your backside