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#1

This product was posted before but the price back then was insane imo.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU429/ItemDetail


#2

» This product was posted before but the price back then was insane imo.
»
»
» http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU429/ItemDetail

Any news on any new topicals that focus on inflammation?

Regards
Pete


#3

» » This product was posted before but the price back then was insane imo.
» »
» »
» » http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU429/ItemDetail
»
»
» Any news on any new topicals that focus on inflammation?
»
»
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

I haven’t really be looking for any. How does this look though…contains that one ingredient, I think, that you’re always interested in(PIROCTONE OLAMINE?)Page 9:

http://www.demar.co.za/brochure_yunsey.pdf

Company website: http://www.yunsey.com/

I’ll be adding this to my regimen soon: http://elsomresearch.com/shopping/products/scalp-extreme.htm …but am always looking for something to use in the a.m…although I do like my RepHair which I now use.


#4

Or this:

http://www.thecompounder.com/tranilast.php
"Tranilast, an antioxidant and a derivative of the amino acid tryptophan, is an anti-allergic agent that seems to relieve many conditions caused by inflammation. Users report that it eliminates discomfort within minutes if it’s applied immediately after injury or at the onset of symptoms. We have found that it has a wide margin of safety and negligible toxicity, so it seems that tranilast can be used as needed to treat a wide variety of conditions such as hives, bronchial asthma, nasal congestion, scars, keloids, and skin contractures. In topical form, it can also provide welcome relief from minor afflictions like the pain of superficial burns, the itching of aggressive hives, and the discomfort of seasonal nasal congestion.

"We began to look into why tranilast seems to be so effective and found that it inhibits the release of substances such as histamine and prostaglandins, which often cause the symptoms of allergy (inflammation, swelling, itching). Further investigation revealed that topical tranilast has demonstrated effectiveness in treating scars, keloids, and other skin disorders. In one study, a 14-year-old boy with localized scleroderma (a chronic disorder that involves the hardening and thickening of the skin) experienced what the authors termed “a dramatic improvement in contractures” after treatment with tranilast.

I discovered another use for tranilast when I sustained a second-degree burn to the back of my hand after inadvertently touching the side of my furnace chimney during winter. I applied tranilast 10% cream to the burned area right away and noticed the immediate relief of pain and redness. Healing was evident a few days later, and 6 days after the burn, I had no sign of injury."


#5

I don’t know if this is the same stuff or not: http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/199913/000019991399A0187765.php

Treatment of alopecia areata with 0.5% tranilast ophthalmic solution.Accession number;99A0187765
Title;Treatment of alopecia areata with 0.5% tranilast ophthalmic solution.
Author;TANIGUCHI SHOJI(Osaka Railw. Hosp.) KONO TAKESHI(Osaka City Univ., Med. Sch.)
Journal Title;Journal of Pediatric Practice

Journal Code:Z0217A

ISSN:0386-9806

VOL.62;NO.2;PAGE.311-313(1999)
Figure&Table&Reference;FIG.2, TBL.1, REF.7
Pub. Country;Japan
Language;Japanese
Abstract;


#6

» I don’t know if this is the same stuff or not:
» http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/199913/000019991399A0187765.php
»
»
» Treatment of alopecia areata with 0.5% tranilast ophthalmic
» solution.Accession number;99A0187765
» Title;Treatment of alopecia areata with 0.5% tranilast ophthalmic
» solution.
» Author;TANIGUCHI SHOJI(Osaka Railw. Hosp.) KONO TAKESHI(Osaka City
» Univ., Med. Sch.)
» Journal Title;Journal of Pediatric Practice
»
» Journal Code:Z0217A
»
» ISSN:0386-9806
»
» VOL.62;NO.2;PAGE.311-313(1999)
» Figure&Table&Reference;FIG.2, TBL.1, REF.7
» Pub. Country;Japan
» Language;Japanese
» Abstract;

The “C” topical has a good success rate for AA.

Regards
Pete


#7

» » » This product was posted before but the price back then was insane imo.
»
» » »
» » »
» » » http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU429/ItemDetail
» »
» »
» » Any news on any new topicals that focus on inflammation?
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » Regards
» » Pete
»
» I haven’t really be looking for any. How does this look though…contains
» that one ingredient, I think, that you’re always interested in(PIROCTONE
» OLAMINE?)Page 9:
»
» http://www.demar.co.za/brochure_yunsey.pdf
»
» Company website: http://www.yunsey.com/
»
» I’ll be adding this to my regimen soon:
» http://elsomresearch.com/shopping/products/scalp-extreme.htm …but am
» always looking for something to use in the a.m…although I do like my
» RepHair which I now use.

Alternating Piroctone Olamine with another shampoo should help with the immune response in MPB. Thanks for the link!

Regards
Pete


#8

» Or this:
»
» http://www.thecompounder.com/tranilast.php
» "Tranilast, an antioxidant and a derivative of the amino acid tryptophan,
» is an anti-allergic agent that seems to relieve many conditions caused by
» inflammation. Users report that it eliminates discomfort within minutes if
» it’s applied immediately after injury or at the onset of symptoms. We have
» found that it has a wide margin of safety and negligible toxicity, so it
» seems that tranilast can be used as needed to treat a wide variety of
» conditions such as hives, bronchial asthma, nasal congestion, scars,
» keloids, and skin contractures. In topical form, it can also provide
» welcome relief from minor afflictions like the pain of superficial burns,
» the itching of aggressive hives, and the discomfort of seasonal nasal
» congestion.
»
» “We began to look into why tranilast seems to be so effective and found
» that it inhibits the release of substances such as histamine and
» prostaglandins, which often cause the symptoms of allergy (inflammation,
» swelling, itching). Further investigation revealed that topical tranilast
» has demonstrated effectiveness in treating scars, keloids, and other skin
» disorders. In one study, a 14-year-old boy with localized scleroderma (a
» chronic disorder that involves the hardening and thickening of the skin)
» experienced what the authors termed “a dramatic improvement in
» contractures” after treatment with tranilast.
»
» I discovered another use for tranilast when I sustained a second-degree
» burn to the back of my hand after inadvertently touching the side of my
» furnace chimney during winter. I applied tranilast 10% cream to the burned
» area right away and noticed the immediate relief of pain and redness.
» Healing was evident a few days later, and 6 days after the burn, I had no
» sign of injury.”

Im looking for a topical that helps with the following modes of action or anything similar:

1)boosting SOD levels
2)reducing inflammation
3)boosting bloodflow

Regards
Pete


#9

» I’ll be adding this to my regimen soon:
» http://elsomresearch.com/shopping/products/scalp-extreme.htm …but am
» always looking for something to use in the a.m…although I do like my
» RepHair which I now use.

There are 3 ingredients which I like in that formula. It may do better alongside a shampoo that specifically works on inflammation.

Regards
Pete


#10

Im still unsure to why the guys who devloped the LAMAS shampoo havent developed a topical as it sounds good on paper?

Regards
Pete


#11

»
»
» The “C” topical has a good success rate for AA.
»
»
»
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

Which one is that??


#12

» Im still unsure to why the guys who devloped the LAMAS shampoo havent
» developed a topical as it sounds good on paper?
»
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

I suppose they might come out with something like that, too…but for sure they’re supposed to come out with a mousse or other styling product with the same ingreds.


#13

» » Or this:
» »
» » http://www.thecompounder.com/tranilast.php
» » "Tranilast, an antioxidant and a derivative of the amino acid
» tryptophan,
» » is an anti-allergic agent that seems to relieve many conditions caused
» by
» » inflammation. Users report that it eliminates discomfort within minutes
» if
» » it’s applied immediately after injury or at the onset of symptoms. We
» have
» » found that it has a wide margin of safety and negligible toxicity, so
» it
» » seems that tranilast can be used as needed to treat a wide variety of
» » conditions such as hives, bronchial asthma, nasal congestion, scars,
» » keloids, and skin contractures. In topical form, it can also provide
» » welcome relief from minor afflictions like the pain of superficial
» burns,
» » the itching of aggressive hives, and the discomfort of seasonal nasal
» » congestion.
» »
» » “We began to look into why tranilast seems to be so effective and found
» » that it inhibits the release of substances such as histamine and
» » prostaglandins, which often cause the symptoms of allergy
» (inflammation,
» » swelling, itching). Further investigation revealed that topical
» tranilast
» » has demonstrated effectiveness in treating scars, keloids, and other
» skin
» » disorders. In one study, a 14-year-old boy with localized scleroderma
» (a
» » chronic disorder that involves the hardening and thickening of the
» skin)
» » experienced what the authors termed “a dramatic improvement in
» » contractures” after treatment with tranilast.
» »
» » I discovered another use for tranilast when I sustained a second-degree
» » burn to the back of my hand after inadvertently touching the side of my
» » furnace chimney during winter. I applied tranilast 10% cream to the
» burned
» » area right away and noticed the immediate relief of pain and redness.
» » Healing was evident a few days later, and 6 days after the burn, I had
» no
» » sign of injury.”
»
»
» Im looking for a topical that helps with the following modes of action or
» anything similar:
»
»
»
» 1)boosting SOD levels
» 2)reducing inflammation
» 3)boosting bloodflow
»
»

Well I’m sure there are plenty out there. I would think some of Elsom’s would even cover those areas. For sure in a custom one. Plenty of SOD mimetics…etc.

I would add fibrosis to your list. http://elsomresearch.com/shopping/products/skin-resurfacing.htm
I had started using that product and then forgot about it. Need to keep up with it.


#14

» » » » This product was posted before but the price back then was insane
» imo.
» »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU429/ItemDetail
» » »
» » »
» » » Any news on any new topicals that focus on inflammation?
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » Regards
» » » Pete
» »
» » I haven’t really be looking for any. How does this look
» though…contains
» » that one ingredient, I think, that you’re always interested
» in(PIROCTONE
» » OLAMINE?)Page 9:
» »
» » http://www.demar.co.za/brochure_yunsey.pdf
» »
» » Company website: http://www.yunsey.com/
» »
» » I’ll be adding this to my regimen soon:
» » http://elsomresearch.com/shopping/products/scalp-extreme.htm …but am
» » always looking for something to use in the a.m…although I do like my
» » RepHair which I now use.
»
»
»
»
» Alternating Piroctone Olamine with another shampoo should help with the
» immune response in MPB. Thanks for the link!
»
»
»

I suppose the topical product from that company doesn’t contain the PO…?


#15

» »
» »
» » The “C” topical has a good success rate for AA.
» »
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » Regards
» » Pete
»
» Which one is that??

Calosol for AA.
Although I dont think it will help regrow hair in MPB, but may help maintain.

Regards
Pete


#16

» » » Or this:
» » »
» » » http://www.thecompounder.com/tranilast.php
» » » "Tranilast, an antioxidant and a derivative of the amino acid
» » tryptophan,
» » » is an anti-allergic agent that seems to relieve many conditions
» caused
» » by
» » » inflammation. Users report that it eliminates discomfort within
» minutes
» » if
» » » it’s applied immediately after injury or at the onset of symptoms. We
» » have
» » » found that it has a wide margin of safety and negligible toxicity, so
» » it
» » » seems that tranilast can be used as needed to treat a wide variety of
» » » conditions such as hives, bronchial asthma, nasal congestion, scars,
» » » keloids, and skin contractures. In topical form, it can also provide
» » » welcome relief from minor afflictions like the pain of superficial
» » burns,
» » » the itching of aggressive hives, and the discomfort of seasonal nasal
» » » congestion.
» » »
» » » “We began to look into why tranilast seems to be so effective and
» found
» » » that it inhibits the release of substances such as histamine and
» » » prostaglandins, which often cause the symptoms of allergy
» » (inflammation,
» » » swelling, itching). Further investigation revealed that topical
» » tranilast
» » » has demonstrated effectiveness in treating scars, keloids, and other
» » skin
» » » disorders. In one study, a 14-year-old boy with localized scleroderma
» » (a
» » » chronic disorder that involves the hardening and thickening of the
» » skin)
» » » experienced what the authors termed “a dramatic improvement in
» » » contractures” after treatment with tranilast.
» » »
» » » I discovered another use for tranilast when I sustained a
» second-degree
» » » burn to the back of my hand after inadvertently touching the side of
» my
» » » furnace chimney during winter. I applied tranilast 10% cream to the
» » burned
» » » area right away and noticed the immediate relief of pain and redness.
» » » Healing was evident a few days later, and 6 days after the burn, I
» had
» » no
» » » sign of injury.”
» »
» »
» » Im looking for a topical that helps with the following modes of action
» or
» » anything similar:
» »
» »
» »
» » 1)boosting SOD levels
» » 2)reducing inflammation
» » 3)boosting bloodflow
» »
» »
»
» Well I’m sure there are plenty out there. I would think some of Elsom’s
» would even cover those areas. For sure in a custom one. Plenty of SOD
» mimetics…etc.
»
» I would add fibrosis to your list.
» http://elsomresearch.com/shopping/products/skin-resurfacing.htm
» I had started using that product and then forgot about it. Need to keep up
» with it.

Im thinking of contacting Elsom myself.
Do you have custom topical formultions made up yourself? is it expensive? what quantity do you buy? what formula did you have made up?

Regards
Pete


#17

» » » » » This product was posted before but the price back then was insane
» » imo.
» » »
» » » » »
» » » » »
» » » » » http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU429/ItemDetail
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » Any news on any new topicals that focus on inflammation?
» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » Regards
» » » » Pete
» » »
» » » I haven’t really be looking for any. How does this look
» » though…contains
» » » that one ingredient, I think, that you’re always interested
» » in(PIROCTONE
» » » OLAMINE?)Page 9:
» » »
» » » http://www.demar.co.za/brochure_yunsey.pdf
» » »
» » » Company website: http://www.yunsey.com/
» » »
» » » I’ll be adding this to my regimen soon:
» » » http://elsomresearch.com/shopping/products/scalp-extreme.htm …but am
» » » always looking for something to use in the a.m…although I do like
» my
» » » RepHair which I now use.
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » Alternating Piroctone Olamine with another shampoo should help with the
» » immune response in MPB. Thanks for the link!
» »
» »
» »
»
» I suppose the topical product from that company doesn’t contain the PO…?

It doesnt really make sense to have PO in topical - it better off in shampoo.
Topical wise we need some knockout ingredients that target specific factors such as the ones that I have mentioned already.

It might be an idea to get some “ideas” for a Super topical if we can get other people interested in the forum ( including David ) ?

Regards
Pete


#18

» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » 1)boosting SOD levels
» » » 2)reducing inflammation
» » » 3)boosting bloodflow
» » »
» » »
» »
» » Well I’m sure there are plenty out there. I would think some of Elsom’s
» » would even cover those areas. For sure in a custom one. Plenty of SOD
» » mimetics…etc.
» »
» » I would add fibrosis to your list.
» » http://elsomresearch.com/shopping/products/skin-resurfacing.htm
» » I had started using that product and then forgot about it. Need to keep
» up
» » with it.
»
»
» Im thinking of contacting Elsom myself.
» Do you have custom topical formultions made up yourself? is it expensive?
» what quantity do you buy? what formula did you have made up?
»
»

You can play around with the Formulator there to see how much it’ll cost. It’s not cheap. You can just get one bottle…or more. They do usually send along a freebie- either a bit more of your custom or another product…but again…it’s not cheap.

I will say they do last longer than most topicals…for me and I’ve noticed others have said the same thing. You apply them to a damp scalp and spread them around.

I’ve posted my formulas in the past…I can look them up if they’re too hard to find for ya.


#19

» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » 1)boosting SOD levels
» » » » 2)reducing inflammation
» » » » 3)boosting bloodflow
» » » »
» » » »
» » »
» » » Well I’m sure there are plenty out there. I would think some of
» Elsom’s
» » » would even cover those areas. For sure in a custom one. Plenty of SOD
» » » mimetics…etc.
» » »
» » » I would add fibrosis to your list.
» » » http://elsomresearch.com/shopping/products/skin-resurfacing.htm
» » » I had started using that product and then forgot about it. Need to
» keep
» » up
» » » with it.
» »
» »
» » Im thinking of contacting Elsom myself.
» » Do you have custom topical formultions made up yourself? is it
» expensive?
» » what quantity do you buy? what formula did you have made up?
» »
» »
»
» You can play around with the Formulator there to see how much it’ll cost.
» It’s not cheap. You can just get one bottle…or more. They do usually send
» along a freebie- either a bit more of your custom or another product…but
» again…it’s not cheap.
»
» I will say they do last longer than most topicals…for me and I’ve noticed
» others have said the same thing. You apply them to a damp scalp and spread
» them around.
»
» I’ve posted my formulas in the past…I can look them up if they’re too
» hard to find for ya.

Jacob

Just out of interest what other forums do you post on?
Im looking for some challenging forums where they actually discuss hairloss.

Regards
Pete


#20

»
» Jacob
»
» Just out of interest what other forums do you post on?
» Im looking for some challenging forums where they actually discuss
» hairloss.
»
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

Mainly regrowth.com and lately hairlossfight.com- the latter one is dead 'cept for discussions on a new product coming out(a doc involved with it is answering ?'s there). I love the setup of that forum.