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#1

Here what we need to know at the moment:

Conclusion : Acell Matristem has diverse applications in hair restoration surgery:

Enhances punch & strip healing
Results in “Soft” tissue (vs fibrotic scarring) but does not prevent depigmentation or the hairless gap. Good closure principles must still be followed and excellent technique is required to ensure good results.
Enhances results of FU grafting: Grafts appear thicker, more robust. Further study will help quantify and explain this result.
Facilitates follicle regeneration from implanted plucked hair (autocloning)
Questions:
Are these regenerated hairs androgen sensitive? Part of the hair follicle (epithelial) is derived from the androgen insensitive donor area but is the mesenchymal (i.e. dermal papilla) derived from the androgen sensitive cells? Time will tell.
Will these regenerated hairs go through the normal hair cycle? In other words, will they grow during a normal anagen phase, shed, and then regrow for subsequent cycles? We plan to pluck some of the regenerated hairs to see what happens.
These results are very exciting but require more research and long term observation to fully understand what role this technology will play in hair restoration surgery.
©Jerry E. Cooley, MD

time will tell, we can just… wait. Go to the gym or play music meantime. :smiley:


#2

DOnt grip it out of context, here is the full link to the article.

http://www.regrowhair.com/hair-loss-blog/autocloning-hair-restoration-with-acell-matristem/


#3

» DOnt grip it out of context, here is the full link to the article.
»
» http://www.regrowhair.com/hair-loss-blog/autocloning-hair-restoration-with-acell-matristem/

Totally agree!! “Dont grip it out of context”, because Leeroy.Jenkins has been the very 1st here on HairSite today, who posted this link! Without Leeroy.Jenkins, NOBODY would be ever aware about this link and its content! Nobody ever!


#4

» » DOnt grip it out of context, here is the full link to the article.
» »
» »
» http://www.regrowhair.com/hair-loss-blog/autocloning-hair-restoration-with-acell-matristem/
»
» Totally agree!! “Dont grip it out of context”, because Leeroy.Jenkins has
» been the very 1st here on HairSite today, who posted this link! Without
» Leeroy.Jenkins, NOBODY would be ever aware about this link and its content!
» Nobody ever!

Yes your reaction shows me that my guessing was right, snapped the link right in front of face :stuck_out_tongue:


#5

Stevie Dee, you’re the most idiot and boring user of the history of hairsite.
Get a life, get a bitch, don’t lose you’re time like a retarded here.


#6

» Stevie Dee, you’re the most idiot and boring user of the history of
» hairsite.
» Get a life, get a bitch, don’t lose you’re time like a retarded here.

Seriously, check out the following links/URL’s I posted yesterday:

Really? You posted “an important link”? Let me look WHO posted your “important link” several times …

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-75263.html#p75292

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-75081.html#p75785

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-74902.html#p74903

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-74798.html#p74798

So, Mr. Jenkins, YOU didn’t post anything „new discovered“!

Since MONTH (!) I tried to gather and to report about all the recent Cooley/Hitzig infos - including 4 times the “new link” by Leeroy.Jenkins posted yesterday. But how many users were interested to check out and discuss the links/infos? Always just A FEW, and mostly NONE of them is asking serious info-related questions.

Such boards like this one is like a hamster running wheel; tons of infos appear and disappear again within just a few days. There are always multiple theads to one and the same topic – so, in which one should someone discuss or provide more (just time-consuming) insights? Moreover, once a topic got hijacked (trolling/frustration/shill-boycott rants etc), who is interested to get involved?


#7

tl:dr


#8

Oh i never said NEW. I said Hitzig/Cooley in a Nutshell because you were unable to answer some questions posted by users


#9

» Here what we need to know at the moment:
»
»
» Conclusion : Acell Matristem has diverse applications in hair
» restoration surgery:
»
» Enhances punch & strip healing
» Results in “Soft” tissue (vs fibrotic scarring) but does not prevent
» depigmentation or the hairless gap. Good closure principles must still be
» followed and excellent technique is required to ensure good results.
» Enhances results of FU grafting: Grafts appear thicker, more robust.
» Further study will help quantify and explain this result.
» Facilitates follicle regeneration from implanted plucked hair (autocloning)

Does anybody have any idea what I meant by “he [Cooley] will need each and every Cent soon”?
No?

Ask HairSite, I’m pretty sure he can give you - at least a hint.


#10

» » Here what we need to know at the moment:
» »
» »
» » Conclusion : Acell Matristem has diverse applications in hair
» » restoration surgery:
» »
» » Enhances punch & strip healing
» » Results in “Soft” tissue (vs fibrotic scarring) but does not prevent
» » depigmentation or the hairless gap. Good closure principles must still
» be
» » followed and excellent technique is required to ensure good results.
» » Enhances results of FU grafting: Grafts appear thicker, more robust.
» » Further study will help quantify and explain this result.
» » Facilitates follicle regeneration from implanted plucked
» hair (autocloning)
»
»
» Does anybody have any idea what I meant by “he [Cooley] will need each and
» every Cent soon”?
» No?
»
» Ask HairSite, I’m pretty sure he can give you - at least a hint.

Why dont you just tell us instead of trying to talk in cryptic riddles all the time. If you have something to say then say it straight out in plain english.


#11

» Why dont you just tell us instead of trying to talk in cryptic riddles all
» the time. If you have something to say then
» say it straight out in plain english.

Ok, here you will find plain english:

A “term known to all in the art” means in plain English “a term known to ALL in the art”. And each and every “substitute” also means “a term known to all in the art”.

In simple words, EVERYTHING what is working best for hair plucking procedures.
And it also doesn’t matter IN WHICH WAY you pluck the hairs - everything what is working best, as long as the necessary stem cells are still attached to the plucked hairs, so that on BOTH sides (donor side and plucked hairs) are enough stem cells attached/left behind.


#12

Iron Man is I think talking about an impending lawsuit by Gho for patent infringement. Interesting, we will see.


#13

» Iron Man is I think talking about an impending lawsuit by Gho for patent
» infringement. Interesting, we will see.

Correct. BUT, I’ve absolutely no clue what really will happen concerning that in future. And actually I give a sh’t what will happen concerning that, as long as REAL patients can get such procedures 1) to affordable prices 2) in their own country, IF they need it at all. Time will tell …

btw - I really have a bad feeling about this subject (hair plucking/multiplication/lawsuits). If I’m not completely wrong, the same COULD happen like with the ACell company in the past (company shutdown by law), Histogen currently (there is still a patent lawsuit ongoing).


#14

» Iron Man is I think talking about an impending lawsuit by Gho for patent
» infringement. Interesting, we will see.

Oh, by the way: All I know is that Dr. Gho is WELL prepared for that (just in case) since A LONG TIME:

Excerpt:

Year: 2000 - "Regarding Dr. Gho’s efforts at raising venture capital – he is doing this for several reasons. First, he wants to create a network of doctors in Europe, North America, etc. who will license his patented procedure. To locate these doctors and train them will cost a lot of money. Second, he wants to protect his patent from infringement. A significant amount of the money he raises through VC will be a sort of “legal war chest” to pay U.S. and European law firms to enforce the patent by threatening lawsuits against any doctor who uses the process (or anything similar) without licensing it from him, and paying him royalties. He is also engaged in discussions with the Dutch government to enlist their help in defending his patent, and has asked the Dutch government for money to help him protect the patent. Dr. Gho strongly believes that scientists, inventors, and business entrepreneurs in “little countries” like the Netherlands are vulnerable to the big money and power that can be wielded by similar interests in countries like the United States. He has made this argument to the Dutch government, and is trying to use a provision in Dutch law that says the Netherlands government will help defend valuable intellectual property discovered or invented by its citizens. He has argued that, if he makes a lot of money licensing his procedure around the world, he’ll pay a lot of taxes to the Netherlands, therefore the Dutch government should help him protect the patent by offering some support to his “patent enforcement fund”.

Source: google it!


#15

And here we have the proof of what Dr Gho is in reality

  1. He does nothing for the balding community
  2. Will Sue People who in the best they can pioneered at something

Well Gho Failed till today to come up with useful pictures or cases like Hitzig and Cooley (we all know this Hitzig/Cooley picture about this guy with the 500 plcuked hairs and the really good result)

So what we can say is, IronMan promotet Gho all the time as this nice and superb surgeon. But Well guess what, if he files a lawsuit we can all kiss our full head of hair GOODBYE forever, especially if we want it to be dense.

Thanks Dr Gho. This rat face couldnt come up with anything good in the past and now he wants to creat a whole line of surgeons in europe who learn from him? Ok we are screwed.

And IronMan you should care about the lawsuit cause you depend on Acell/plucking/multiplication as everyone does.

Thank You Dr Gho the balding community wont forget it, i can tell you that


#16

One the other hand, hopefully he will be indeed an as*shole - the only way to finally get at least some degree of “a REGULATION” in this nice “headache field”.

Luckily, nobody else in the HM field is patenting all his findings …


#17

» One the other hand, hopefully he will be indeed an as*shole - the only way
» to finally get at least some degree of “a REGULATION” in this nice
» “headache field”.
»
» Luckily, nobody else in the HM field is patenting all his findings …

Ah now i got it, your head is butchered and so everyone has to suffer hairloss, right? Because for you the ship has left the harbor. Now we can see your true intentions, thanks for clarifying this.

Nice that you finally put your mask away :smiley: took you some time.

Btw you speak about affordable prices, well right when Gho sues everyone there wont be such a thing :-), there is a reason why Gho is most likely perform surgery at celebrities.

Ad also Lawsuits keep people from doing research and you know what this means? Right it means it is more likely that a solution/cure wont be found by accident or so.

But please promote Gho a little bit more, and whats when Ghos technique fails, at some point? Well then all those years were for nothing and everyone has to start over :slight_smile: but then it wont matter anymore because you would also be in your 60s and all the bickering from you was for nothing :slight_smile: so have fun with your Gho and lawsuit agenda.

Btw right now we dont know if Gho is doing a Lawsuit, maybe you should send him an Email with all the details right now, that he saves a lot of precious time with lawsuit preparations. :slight_smile:


#18

» » One the other hand, hopefully he will be indeed an as*shole - the only
» way
» » to finally get at least some degree of “a REGULATION” in this nice
» » “headache field”.
» »
» » Luckily, nobody else in the HM field is patenting all his findings …
»
» Ah now i got it, your head is butchered and so everyone has to suffer
» hairloss, right? Because for you the ship has left the harbor. Now we can
» see your true intentions, thanks for clarifying this.
»
» Nice that you finally put your mask away :smiley: took you some time.
»
» Btw you speak about affordable prices, well right when Gho sues everyone
» there wont be such a thing :-), there is a reason why Gho is most likely
» perform surgery at celebrities.
»
» Ad also Lawsuits keep people from doing research and you know what this
» means? Right it means it is more likely that a solution/cure wont be found
» by accident or so.
»
» But please promote Gho a little bit more, and whats when Ghos technique
» fails, at some point? Well then all those years were for nothing and
» everyone has to start over :slight_smile: but then it wont matter anymore because you
» would also be in your 60s and all the bickering from you was for nothing
» :slight_smile: so have fun with your Gho and lawsuit agenda.
»
» Btw right now we dont know if Gho is doing a Lawsuit, maybe you should send
» him an Email with all the details right now, that he saves a lot of
» precious time with lawsuit preparations. :slight_smile:

guys dont jump to conclusions that a lawsuit is iminent. even if the patent is found to be valid in the case of autocloning its in Dr Gho’s interest that others do use this as this is the way he will make an income through licensing.

i would also be very surpised if those that are already doing autocloning are not already aware of this, they might already have agreements or have recieved legal advice that it does not apply.

in all honesty the patent system is there to protect someones intellectual property so if a finding is made they are entitled to some form of reward if others are going to profit from it.


#19

» » » One the other hand, hopefully he will be indeed an as*shole - the only
» » way
» » » to finally get at least some degree of “a REGULATION” in this nice
» » » “headache field”.
» » »
» » » Luckily, nobody else in the HM field is patenting all his findings …
» »
» » Ah now i got it, your head is butchered and so everyone has to suffer
» » hairloss, right? Because for you the ship has left the harbor. Now we
» can
» » see your true intentions, thanks for clarifying this.
» »
» » Nice that you finally put your mask away :smiley: took you some time.
» »
» » Btw you speak about affordable prices, well right when Gho sues everyone
» » there wont be such a thing :-), there is a reason why Gho is most likely
» » perform surgery at celebrities.
» »
» » Ad also Lawsuits keep people from doing research and you know what this
» » means? Right it means it is more likely that a solution/cure wont be
» found
» » by accident or so.
» »
» » But please promote Gho a little bit more, and whats when Ghos technique
» » fails, at some point? Well then all those years were for nothing and
» » everyone has to start over :slight_smile: but then it wont matter anymore because
» you
» » would also be in your 60s and all the bickering from you was for nothing
» » :slight_smile: so have fun with your Gho and lawsuit agenda.
» »
» » Btw right now we dont know if Gho is doing a Lawsuit, maybe you should
» send
» » him an Email with all the details right now, that he saves a lot of
» » precious time with lawsuit preparations. :slight_smile:
»
» guys dont jump to conclusions that a lawsuit is iminent. even if the patent
» is found to be valid in the case of autocloning its in Dr Gho’s interest
» that others do use this as this is the way he will make an income through
» licensing.
»
» i would also be very surpised if those that are already doing autocloning
» are not already aware of this, they might already have agreements or have
» recieved legal advice that it does not apply.
»
» in all honesty the patent system is there to protect someones intellectual
» property so if a finding is made they are entitled to some form of reward
» if others are going to profit from it.

I hope you realize that with this licencing System its not beneficial for consumers, cause the relatively expensive treatment will increase in price.

And another thing is, IronMan wants people to not do Strip anymore, well in the licence case a lot more people will go for strip procedures.

I couls explain the things here and will during the day, even to make it really clear what I and only I think of the situation


#20

» » » » One the other hand, hopefully he will be indeed an as*shole - the
» only
» » » way
» » » » to finally get at least some degree of “a REGULATION” in this nice
» » » » “headache field”.
» » » »
» » » » Luckily, nobody else in the HM field is patenting all his findings
» …
» » »
» » » Ah now i got it, your head is butchered and so everyone has to suffer
» » » hairloss, right? Because for you the ship has left the harbor. Now we
» » can
» » » see your true intentions, thanks for clarifying this.
» » »
» » » Nice that you finally put your mask away :smiley: took you some time.
» » »
» » » Btw you speak about affordable prices, well right when Gho sues
» everyone
» » » there wont be such a thing :-), there is a reason why Gho is most
» likely
» » » perform surgery at celebrities.
» » »
» » » Ad also Lawsuits keep people from doing research and you know what
» this
» » » means? Right it means it is more likely that a solution/cure wont be
» » found
» » » by accident or so.
» » »
» » » But please promote Gho a little bit more, and whats when Ghos
» technique
» » » fails, at some point? Well then all those years were for nothing and
» » » everyone has to start over :slight_smile: but then it wont matter anymore because
» » you
» » » would also be in your 60s and all the bickering from you was for
» nothing
» » » :slight_smile: so have fun with your Gho and lawsuit agenda.
» » »
» » » Btw right now we dont know if Gho is doing a Lawsuit, maybe you should
» » send
» » » him an Email with all the details right now, that he saves a lot of
» » » precious time with lawsuit preparations. :slight_smile:
» »
» » guys dont jump to conclusions that a lawsuit is iminent. even if the
» patent
» » is found to be valid in the case of autocloning its in Dr Gho’s interest
» » that others do use this as this is the way he will make an income
» through
» » licensing.
» »
» » i would also be very surpised if those that are already doing
» autocloning
» » are not already aware of this, they might already have agreements or
» have
» » recieved legal advice that it does not apply.
» »
» » in all honesty the patent system is there to protect someones
» intellectual
» » property so if a finding is made they are entitled to some form of
» reward
» » if others are going to profit from it.
»
» I hope you realize that with this licencing System its not beneficial for
» consumers, cause the relatively expensive treatment will increase in
» price.
»
» And another thing is, IronMan wants people to not do Strip anymore, well in
» the licence case a lot more people will go for strip procedures.
»
» I couls explain the things here and will during the day, even to make it
» really clear what I and only I think of the situation

i understand what you are say … when has anything ever been beneficial for the consumer