Ok Again with Cell follicle hibernation

Supplements for hair loss
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This question is very important. Someone, when I had posted about this before said they believe that follicles do not die, they hibernate, or go into an inactive growth faze

Are there any studies which state that even in long term bald areas the
follicles were found to be still capable of producing hair? how would they measure this

I asked for hair transplant docs opinion on this , but one poster pointed out they are not exactly in the business of encouraging guys that their hair can be regrown…true. I was hoping when they cut open the scalps of bald guys they could observe that the follicles were either dormant or just there was nothing there

Are there studies, for example pete may know this, to back up this theory.
My theory is or was, depends on the data,that the hair follicles die
after a certain point, or they get to a point where it is next to impossible to get them to regrow hair

Now, when my hair was first thinning in the crown, i regularly got tons of regrowth up there, tons of baby hairs, even the whorl pattern was re establishing itself, albeit a very small area of progress it was visible

I could even achieve this 5 yrs ago,very small whorl pattern hairs

now you guys say, ok hangin its because u have not tried a good topical,
my statement on this is , if there was a topical out there that regrew hair on bald spots,the hair transplant docs would go out of business

I know that statement sounds cynical but to some degree its true. I have tried several topicals and they all made my scalp burn and turn red and itchy and any baby hairs i had immediately fell out

perhaps some guys skin does not mesh with topicals

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» This question is very important. Someone, when I had posted about this
» before said they believe that follicles do not die, they hibernate, or go
» into an inactive growth faze

I believe there are a few cases of hairloss being reversed in difficult areas - Perhaps Hairsite can assist in digging the pics out of the archives, if there are any.

» Are there any studies which state that even in long term bald areas the
» follicles were found to be still capable of producing hair? how would they
» measure this
»
» I asked for hair transplant docs opinion on this , but one poster pointed
» out they are not exactly in the business of encouraging guys that their
» hair can be regrown…true. I was hoping when they cut open
» the scalps of bald guys they could observe that the follicles were either
» dormant or just there was nothing there
»
» Are there studies, for example pete may know this, to back up this theory.
»
» My theory is or was, depends on the data,that the hair follicles
» die
» after a certain point, or they get to a point where it is next to
» impossible to get them to regrow hair
»
» Now, when my hair was first thinning in the crown, i regularly got tons of
» regrowth up there, tons of baby hairs, even the whorl pattern was re
» establishing itself, albeit a very small area of progress it was visible
»
» I could even achieve this 5 yrs ago,very small whorl pattern
» hairs

By lowering DHT you have already reduced the IMMUNAL response. Re-read my post that I posted earlier. The task is to isolate the response locally.

» now you guys say, ok hangin its because u have not tried a good topical,
» my statement on this is , if there was a topical out there that regrew
» hair on bald spots,the hair transplant docs would go out of
» business
»
» I know that statement sounds cynical but to some degree its true. I have
» tried several topicals and they all made my scalp burn and turn red and
» itchy and any baby hairs i had immediately fell out
»
» perhaps some guys skin does not mesh with topicals

Im looking into a totally different area that may be promising - Ill get back to you on this when things have progressed.

Back to talking about hairloss again!

Regards
Pete

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Pete, probably the best case in the history of hairloss is at GetItBack. A man named Lawrence Cutsinger who’s known as Hairguy, who described himself for the most of his life as a “bowling ball”, proved you can reverse baldness and regrow hair back after decades of barren waste land. This guy apparently went from looking like Telly Savalas to Ron Howard in only 10 years. Doesn’t sound like alot but think about it again. Savalas to a Norwood 7. That is pretty impressive. What’s even better is in just a few months in July, he promises the end of his long hair journey with full regrowth photos and a possible appearance on the Oprah Winfrey Show. Again, this is where the delusional and attention seeking Widows likes to intrude on Lawrence’s show. Widows also claims that he wants to appear on Oprah and in the Guinness World Book of Records but nobody believes him because his photos show he’s going bald. Lawrence at least shows his hair is increasing and getting thicker and he’s in his 60’s. Yes, there is hope for everyone.

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» Pete, probably the best case in the history of hairloss is at GetItBack. A
» man named Lawrence Cutsinger who’s known as Hairguy, who described himself
» for the most of his life as a “bowling ball”, proved you can reverse
» baldness and regrow hair back after decades of barren waste land. This guy
» apparently went from looking like Telly Savalas to Ron Howard in only 10
» years. Doesn’t sound like alot but think about it again. Savalas to a
» Norwood 7. That is pretty impressive. What’s even better is in just a few
» months in July, he promises the end of his long hair journey with full
» regrowth photos and a possible appearance on the Oprah Winfrey Show.
» Again, this is where the delusional and attention seeking Widows likes to
» intrude on Lawrence’s show. Widows also claims that he wants to appear on
» Oprah and in the Guinness World Book of Records but nobody believes him
» because his photos show he’s going bald. Lawrence at least shows his hair
» is increasing and getting thicker and he’s in his 60’s. Yes, there is hope
» for everyone.

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Hogan…the person Hitler worships is Lawrence Cutsinger, a.k.a. Hairguy on the GetItBack forum, who “claims” he is achieving full regrowth simply by not using shampoo anymore which is now been about 10 years.

All Hairguy uses to clean his hair/scalp is water. That’s it. That’s his regimen. He uses no shampoo, no vitamins, no scalp massages, no topicals, nada. Back at the beginning of the year the amazing Hairguy said he will have complete regrowth by July 2007 and he will provide photos to prove it.

Think about it Hogan (I know Hitler isn’t this smart).
It took this guy 10 years to go from Hangin (a.k.a. Kojak) to a norwood 7 and now he “claims” in just 6 more months he will have FULL regrowth.

Now this guy is either very optimistic or he’s delusional beyond belief.

At least I am predicting about another year and a half before I’ll have total regrowth.

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In case anybody wants to see the photos and read up on the amazing Hairguy here is the Get It Back forum link:

http://millerarts.com/discuss/viewforum.php?f=53

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between the shampoo companies and the hair transplant doctors?

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» between the shampoo companies and the hair transplant doctors and pharmacuetical companies?

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» » between the shampoo companies and the hair transplant doctors and
» pharmacuetical companies?
I have no doubt the shampoo companies know EXACTLY what damage their products do to hair but shampoo is a mult-billion dollar industry with lots of payola money being paid out to keep the lid on the shampoo conspiracy.

Shampoo damage happens over a long period of time starting at childhood. Shampoo contain SLS (Sodium Lauryl/Laureth Sulfate) which is a harsh cleanser that is also used in garage floor cleaners, car degreasers, etc.
SLS is used in shampoo because it is dirt cheap and SLS is the ingredient that creates SUDS. And guess what:
SUDS SELLS SHAMPOO…

By the time your hit your late teens/early 20’s you now see the damage that shampoo has created all these years by going bald.

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if this were true the balding guys would lose hair equally distributed around their heads,not in a receding hair line or horseshoe pattern
this disputes the shampoo theory, to intelligent people

» » » between the shampoo companies and the hair transplant doctors and
» » pharmacuetical companies?
» I have no doubt the shampoo companies know EXACTLY what damage their
» products do to hair but shampoo is a mult-billion dollar industry with
» lots of payola money being paid out to keep the lid on the shampoo
» conspiracy.
»
» Shampoo damage happens over a long period of time starting at childhood.
» Shampoo contain SLS (Sodium Lauryl/Laureth Sulfate) which is a harsh
» cleanser that is also used in garage floor cleaners, car degreasers, etc.
» SLS is used in shampoo because it is dirt cheap and SLS is the ingredient
» that creates SUDS. And guess what:
» SUDS SELLS SHAMPOO…
»
» By the time your hit your late teens/early 20’s you now see the damage
» that shampoo has created all these years by going bald.

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» Hogan…the person Hitler worships is Lawrence Cutsinger, a.k.a. Hairguy on
» the GetItBack forum, who “claims” he is achieving full regrowth simply by
» not using shampoo anymore which is now been about 10 years.
»
» All Hairguy uses to clean his hair/scalp is water. That’s it. That’s his
» regimen. He uses no shampoo, no vitamins, no scalp massages, no topicals,
» nada. Back at the beginning of the year the amazing Hairguy said he will
» have complete regrowth by July 2007 and he will provide photos to prove
» it.
»
» Think about it Hogan (I know Hitler isn’t this smart).
» It took this guy 10 years to go from Hangin (a.k.a. Kojak) to a norwood 7
» and now he “claims” in just 6 more months he will have FULL regrowth.
»
» Now this guy is either very optimistic or he’s delusional beyond belief.
»
» At least I am predicting about another year and a half before I’ll have
» total regrowth.

Hogan, Hitler speaks the truth regarding Lawrence Cutsinger aka Hairguy because he is a member there unfortunately. Hundred of thousands of people are currently waiting in anticipation of the most sought after photos in hairloss history in July. Hairguy will prove that cutting out the suds will regrow the buds.

But do not believe Widows when he says Hairguy is either optimistic or delusional. Hairguy was already in the process of contacting Oprah’s people for a one hour appearance months ago. Surely a delusional man would not say these things especially and older gent like Lawrence who is as smart as a whip. His photos definately show he’s a Norwood 7 after being a bowling ball for decades. That impresses the hell our of our organization and we’ve been there tracking his progress for two plus years while following Widows around.

Let me say again, Widowspeak is the delusional one and is jealous as hell of Lawrence Cutsinger. If Lawrence is contacting Oprah and thinks he is going to go from a NW 7 to Brad Pitt, I believe him. Hairguy has never lied to anyone in the 2 plus years we’ve known him. Sure he has been known to take 20,000 words to answer a yes and no question at times but he will never be accused of being dishonest. Our organization has done a major analysis on Hairguy as well and all signs are that he’s telling the truth in his mind. Our analysis with Widowspeak is quite the opposite of Lawrence unfortunately for him. Sorry Widows, but we feel you will be a NW7 in approximately 3 1/2 to 4 years from now.:frowning:

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» if this were true the balding guys would lose hair equally distributed
» around their heads,not in a receding hair line or horseshoe
» pattern
» this disputes the shampoo theory, to intelligent people

Hangin’, Dr. Lawrence believes that people’s bald spots are caused by the places where people plop the shampoo on their heads initially. I believe he refers to this area as “ground zero”. People shampoo and apply it the same time and time again year after year. The SLS cuts away at the follicles thru time and eventually by the time you are in your late teens and early 20’s is when you first start to see the first signs of hairloss due to giving your scalp a 20 year caustic sud bath. Most of the shampoo is left on top of the head and this is why you see most men bald on top or the front. It all depends on how one chooses to apply the shampoo. Lawrence believes in this theory and so far his photos prove that he’s telling the truth unlike Widowspeak who is going bald and growing female breasts by taking excessive amounts of Beta Sis.

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»
»
» Hangin’, Dr. Lawrence believes that people’s bald spots are caused by the
» places where people plop the shampoo on their heads initially. I believe
» he refers to this area as “ground zero”. People shampoo and apply it the
» same time and time again year after year. The SLS cuts away at the
» follicles thru time and eventually by the time you are in your late teens
» and early 20’s is when you first start to see the first signs of hairloss
» due to giving your scalp a 20 year caustic sud bath. Most of the shampoo
» is left on top of the head and this is why you see most men bald on top or
» the front. It all depends on how one chooses to apply the shampoo. Lawrence
» believes in this theory and so far his photos prove that he’s telling the
» truth unlike Widowspeak who is going bald and growing female breasts by
» taking excessive amounts of Beta Sis.

Why don’t women lose their hair as fast as men?

Where is this get it back website?

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You do initially plop the shampoo on top but you distribute it around the scalp within seconds on the sides and back, I fail to see how this theory would apply to receding temples, i guess we apply the shampoo to the temples and let it sit there and then on the crown and rub it around in a circle, when we are younger we apply it to a small area in the crown, but as we get older we must apply it to a larger and larger area of the scalp since we lose more and more…this theory , would only make sense to me if the shampoo aggravated and added to the damage caused by dht

however
in my own case my sides and back are thick healthy, vigorous, as well as the top front…they get shampooed as much if not more than any other areas, makes no difference

If stopping shampoo made your hair grow back i would skip days, but in SE asia its muggy i cant imagine no shampooo for an extended period

» » if this were true the balding guys would lose hair equally distributed
» » around their heads,not in a receding hair line or horseshoe
» » pattern
» » this disputes the shampoo theory, to intelligent people
»
»
»
» Hangin’, Dr. Lawrence believes that people’s bald spots are caused by the
» places where people plop the shampoo on their heads initially. I believe
» he refers to this area as “ground zero”. People shampoo and apply it the
» same time and time again year after year. The SLS cuts away at the
» follicles thru time and eventually by the time you are in your late teens
» and early 20’s is when you first start to see the first signs of hairloss
» due to giving your scalp a 20 year caustic sud bath. Most of the shampoo
» is left on top of the head and this is why you see most men bald on top or
» the front. It all depends on how one chooses to apply the shampoo. Lawrence
» believes in this theory and so far his photos prove that he’s telling the
» truth unlike Widowspeak who is going bald and growing female breasts by
» taking excessive amounts of Beta Sis.

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  1. There are many shampoos out there w/out these “harmful” chemicals etc.

  2. I do not believe everything Lawrence Cutsinger says. I’ll leave it at that.

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» 1. There are many shampoos out there w/out these “harmful” chemicals etc.
»
» 2. I do not believe everything Lawrence Cutsinger says. I’ll leave it at
» that.
That’s true. There are many shampoos without SLS now BUT how many balding people even know that shampoo with SLS is the cause of balding?

Even though there is non-SLS shampoo now it doesn’t help the people that used SLS shampoo all the previous years during childhood and teen years. The SLS damage is already done as seen by millions of balding suckers.

I have seen the idiots on the HairLoss Talk forum. Those idiots absolutely refuse to believe that shampoo has anything to do with hair loss. If you even try to mention how damaging SLS shampoo is they will immediately ban you because they have paying sponsors that sell that poison.

It’s all about dollar signs to Big Pharma and websites that make a buck off of advertisers. Meanwhile millions of suckers continue to shampoo everyday just like good little sheeple.

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You stil haven’t answered my question about women and SLS shampoo. Why don’t they lose hair?

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» You do initially plop the shampoo on top but you distribute it around the
» scalp within seconds on the sides and back, I fail to see how this theory
» would apply to receding temples, i guess we apply the shampoo to the
» temples and let it sit there and then on the crown and rub it around in a
» circle, when we are younger we apply it to a small area in the crown, but
» as we get older we must apply it to a larger and larger area of the scalp
» since we lose more and more…this theory , would only make
» sense to me if the shampoo aggravated and added to the damage caused by
» dht
»
» however
» in my own case my sides and back are thick healthy, vigorous, as well as
» the top front…they get shampooed as much if not more than
» any other areas, makes no difference
»
» If stopping shampoo made your hair grow back i would skip days, but in SE
» asia its muggy i cant imagine no shampooo for an extended period
»
»
» » » if this were true the balding guys would lose hair equally
» distributed
» » » around their heads,not in a receding hair line or horseshoe
» » » pattern
» » » this disputes the shampoo theory, to intelligent people
» »
» »
» »
» » Hangin’, Dr. Lawrence believes that people’s bald spots are caused by
» the
» » places where people plop the shampoo on their heads initially. I
» believe
» » he refers to this area as “ground zero”. People shampoo and apply it
» the
» » same time and time again year after year. The SLS cuts away at the
» » follicles thru time and eventually by the time you are in your late
» teens
» » and early 20’s is when you first start to see the first signs of
» hairloss
» » due to giving your scalp a 20 year caustic sud bath. Most of the
» shampoo
» » is left on top of the head and this is why you see most men bald on top
» or
» » the front. It all depends on how one chooses to apply the shampoo.
» Lawrence
» » believes in this theory and so far his photos prove that he’s telling
» the
» » truth unlike Widowspeak who is going bald and growing female breasts by
» » taking excessive amounts of Beta Sis.

Between now and the time I source a EFFECTIVE topical.

Try an locate a shampoo that cotains Piroctone Olamine with a few anti inflammtory botanicals in it. This will help your scalp IMMUNAL response locally initially.

Regards
Pete

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» 1. There are many shampoos out there w/out these “harmful” chemicals etc.
»
» 2. I do not believe everything Lawrence Cutsinger says. I’ll leave it at
» that.

Jacob, how could you say this about Dr. Lawrence Cutsinger. Did you see his regrowth photos? Please explain how he went from Telly Savalas(a bowling ball) to Ron Howard (Richie Cunningham from Happy Days)and you are not impressed. This was done strictly by cutting out the suds and using just water. Honestly Jacob, what parts don’t you believe of Lawrence’s theory. Lawrence has never lied about anything and has been honest and upfront since day one. I mean for a guy to post regrowth photos looking like a Norwood 7 takes some balls. He obviously was dead on when he compared himself to Ron Howard as far as his regrowth and he was 100% right. I have to tell you, our organization was quite impressed with his photos considering he was a bowling ball for decades before this.

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» » You do initially plop the shampoo on top but you distribute it around
» the
» » scalp within seconds on the sides and back, I fail to see how this
» theory
» » would apply to receding temples, i guess we apply the shampoo to the
» » temples and let it sit there and then on the crown and rub it around in
» a
» » circle, when we are younger we apply it to a small area in the crown,
» but
» » as we get older we must apply it to a larger and larger area of the
» scalp
» » since we lose more and more…this theory , would only
» make
» » sense to me if the shampoo aggravated and added to the damage caused by
» » dht
» »
» » however
» » in my own case my sides and back are thick healthy, vigorous, as well
» as
» » the top front…they get shampooed as much if not more
» than
» » any other areas, makes no difference
» »
» » If stopping shampoo made your hair grow back i would skip days, but in
» SE
» » asia its muggy i cant imagine no shampooo for an extended period
» »
» »
» » » » if this were true the balding guys would lose hair equally
» » distributed
» » » » around their heads,not in a receding hair line or
» horseshoe
» » » » pattern
» » » » this disputes the shampoo theory, to intelligent people
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » Hangin’, Dr. Lawrence believes that people’s bald spots are caused by
» » the
» » » places where people plop the shampoo on their heads initially. I
» » believe
» » » he refers to this area as “ground zero”. People shampoo and apply it
» » the
» » » same time and time again year after year. The SLS cuts away at the
» » » follicles thru time and eventually by the time you are in your late
» » teens
» » » and early 20’s is when you first start to see the first signs of
» » hairloss
» » » due to giving your scalp a 20 year caustic sud bath. Most of the
» » shampoo
» » » is left on top of the head and this is why you see most men bald on
» top
» » or
» » » the front. It all depends on how one chooses to apply the shampoo.
» » Lawrence
» » » believes in this theory and so far his photos prove that he’s telling
» » the
» » » truth unlike Widowspeak who is going bald and growing female breasts
» by
» » » taking excessive amounts of Beta Sis.
»
»
»
»
»
» Between now and the time I source a EFFECTIVE topical.
»
» Try an locate a shampoo that cotains Piroctone Olamine with a few anti
» inflammtory botanicals in it. This will help your scalp IMMUNAL response
» locally initially.
»
»
»
» Regards
» Pete