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#1

Can natural supps be taken in combination with drugs for hairloss? I take as stated in my sig 3 treatments for my hair, none of which are natural treatments. I was contemplating on (and already purchased) saw palmetto, biotin, and vitamin b complex to add to my current regimen… will it help or it useless?


#2

» Can natural supps be taken in combination with drugs for hairloss? I take
» as stated in my sig 3 treatments for my hair, none of which are natural
» treatments. I was contemplating on (and already purchased) saw palmetto,
» biotin, and vitamin b complex to add to my current regimen… will it help
» or it useless?

Hey

keep things in balance.

If your taking an inhibitor there is no logic in taking another one ( even if it is natural ) - you could try Zinc.

Pete


#3

» » Can natural supps be taken in combination with drugs for hairloss? I
» take
» » as stated in my sig 3 treatments for my hair, none of which are natural
» » treatments. I was contemplating on (and already purchased) saw
» palmetto,
» » biotin, and vitamin b complex to add to my current regimen… will it
» help
» » or it useless?
»
» Hey
»
» keep things in balance.
»
» If your taking an inhibitor there is no logic in taking another one ( even
» if it is natural ) - you could try Zinc.
»
»
» Pete

What about the rest of the items I mentioned? Are they fruitless as well?


#4

» What about the rest of the items I mentioned? Are they fruitless as well?

I don’t know and probably nobody does either.

I always take my finasteride/avodart with a glass of water without having eaten or drunk anything within the last couple of hours. I want it to go down and get absorbed into my blood stream without other stuff hampering its digestion.

I also do not take it with any other medicines or vitamins although I do take a vit pill long after the fin has been digested.


#5

» » What about the rest of the items I mentioned? Are they fruitless as
» well?
»
» I don’t know and probably nobody does either.
»
» I always take my finasteride/avodart with a glass of water without having
» eaten or drunk anything within the last couple of hours. I want it to go
» down and get absorbed into my blood stream without other stuff hampering
» its digestion.
»
» I also do not take it with any other medicines or vitamins although I do
» take a vit pill long after the fin has been digested.

Better to take your supps with food.

Pete


#6

» » » Can natural supps be taken in combination with drugs for hairloss? I
» » take
» » » as stated in my sig 3 treatments for my hair, none of which are
» natural
» » » treatments. I was contemplating on (and already purchased) saw
» » palmetto,
» » » biotin, and vitamin b complex to add to my current regimen… will it
» » help
» » » or it useless?
» »
»
» What about the rest of the items I mentioned? Are they fruitless as well?

There is no harm in taking additional vitamins and minerals for general health.

For hairgrowth you regime is good and solid, be careful of the side effects you may get though.

You may want to concentrate on improving your topical regime however.

Thanks
Pete


#7

» Can natural supps be taken in combination with drugs for hairloss? I take
» as stated in my sig 3 treatments for my hair, none of which are natural
» treatments. I was contemplating on (and already purchased) saw palmetto,
» biotin, and vitamin b complex to add to my current regimen… will it help
» or it useless?

I would not duplicate the DHT blockers with naturals that do the same
now on to vitamins

super hair vitamin such has Maxi Hair or Ultra Hair Maxi hair is cheaper and better though

also chelated multi mineral is necessary or the vitamins will not get absorbed

with Maxi Hair at 6 bucks and change at vitacost, for 60 pills how can you beat that?

IF YOU really want to watch your hair go nuts
buy separate MSM and horsetail and take those

Your hair will go nuts

go read studies on MSM, very very very good for the hair
Horsetail will make your hair and nails grow like a weed, I had to stop taking it got tired of cutting my nails every 4 days


#8

From my experience, cheap hair vitamins like Maxi Hair will not do much of anything for your hair long term. Yes, there may be an initial (a month or so) burst of effectiveness. But the body will soon adjust (build up a tolerance) to this product, rendering it ineffective.

Maxi Hair contains, besides the impressive list of vitamins and minerals, all of these fillers and “extras:” Cellulose, stearic acid, oligosaccharides, magnesium stearate, cellulose & glycerin coating, silica, calcium silicate, natural vanilla, vegetable glaze.

Why?


#9

» » Can natural supps be taken in combination with drugs for hairloss? I
» take
» » as stated in my sig 3 treatments for my hair, none of which are natural
» » treatments. I was contemplating on (and already purchased) saw
» palmetto,
» » biotin, and vitamin b complex to add to my current regimen… will it
» help
» » or it useless?
»
»
» I would not duplicate the DHT blockers with naturals that do the same
» now on to vitamins
»
» super hair vitamin such has Maxi Hair or Ultra Hair Maxi hair is cheaper
» and better though
»
» also chelated multi mineral is necessary or the vitamins will not get
» absorbed
»
» with Maxi Hair at 6 bucks and change at vitacost, for 60 pills how can you
» beat that?
»
» IF YOU really want to watch your hair go nuts
» buy separate MSM and horsetail and take those
»
» Your hair will go nuts
»
» go read studies on MSM, very very very good for the hair
» Horsetail will make your hair and nails grow like a weed, I had to stop
» taking it got tired of cutting my nails every 4 days

I remember posts on maxi hair/ultra maxi pills, I’ll lok into it. Where is best ordered from?

I took MSM innitially 5k-7k mg a day, but it was just sending me to the can way too often. Horse tail I get mixed reviews on. My hair and nals grow pretty fast, I’d rather thicken them than to hasten their growth?


#10

» » » Can natural supps be taken in combination with drugs for hairloss? I
» » take
» » » as stated in my sig 3 treatments for my hair, none of which are
» natural
» » » treatments. I was contemplating on (and already purchased) saw
» » palmetto,
» » » biotin, and vitamin b complex to add to my current regimen… will it
» » help
» » » or it useless?
» »
» »
» » I would not duplicate the DHT blockers with naturals that do the same
» » now on to vitamins
» »
» » super hair vitamin such has Maxi Hair or Ultra Hair Maxi hair is cheaper
» » and better though
» »
» » also chelated multi mineral is necessary or the vitamins will not get
» » absorbed
» »
» » with Maxi Hair at 6 bucks and change at vitacost, for 60 pills how can
» you
» » beat that?
» »
» » IF YOU really want to watch your hair go nuts
» » buy separate MSM and horsetail and take those
» »
» » Your hair will go nuts
» »
» » go read studies on MSM, very very very good for the hair
» » Horsetail will make your hair and nails grow like a weed, I had to stop
» » taking it got tired of cutting my nails every 4 days
»
» I remember posts on maxi hair/ultra maxi pills, I’ll lok into it. Where is
» best ordered from?
»
» I took MSM innitially 5k-7k mg a day, but it was just sending me to the can
» way too often. Horse tail I get mixed reviews on. My hair and nals grow
» pretty fast, I’d rather thicken them than to hasten their growth?

www.vitacost.com is where I get mine
If I lived in the USA I could get Maxihair at healthfood/vitamin stores

Kal Amino max very important


#11

» From my experience, cheap hair vitamins like Maxi Hair will not do much of
» anything for your hair long term. Yes, there may be an initial (a
» month or so) burst of effectiveness. But the body will soon adjust (build
» up a tolerance) to this product, rendering it ineffective.
»
» Maxi Hair contains, besides the impressive list of vitamins and minerals,
» all of these fillers and “extras:” Cellulose, stearic acid,
» oligosaccharides, magnesium stearate, cellulose & glycerin coating, silica,
» calcium silicate, natural vanilla, vegetable glaze.
»
» Why?

fillers I assume just get mixed in to give the vitamin extra filling, like pie filling

so you are telling me that your body does not need 2000mcg Biotin every day, or that your hair cannot benefit from that? when a study done on rats says the rats went totally bald when biotin was removed from their diet?


#12

» fillers I assume just get mixed in to give the vitamin extra filling, like
» pie filling

Are you trying to be funny here :slight_smile: ? Surely there must be a reason why vitamins without these “fillers” tend to be more expensive.

» so you are telling me that your body does not need 2000mcg Biotin every
» day, or that your hair cannot benefit from that? when a study done on rats
» says the rats went totally bald when biotin was removed from their diet?

Biotin is important. It is also easily obtained from foods (e.g. milk, eggs, tomatoes, lettuce). The body will just excrete the excess. It’s kinda like your body is a car, and biotin is extremely cheap gasoline, easily obtained: once the tank is full, the rest just spills onto the street, unused.

If you take all the vitamin A out of your diet, you will go bald as well.


#13

» » fillers I assume just get mixed in to give the vitamin extra filling,
» like
» » pie filling
»
» Are you trying to be funny here :slight_smile: ? Surely there must be a reason why
» vitamins without these “fillers” tend to be more expensive.
»
» » so you are telling me that your body does not need 2000mcg Biotin every
» » day, or that your hair cannot benefit from that? when a study done on
» rats
» » says the rats went totally bald when biotin was removed from their diet?
»
» Biotin is important. It is also easily obtained from foods (e.g. milk,
» eggs, tomatoes, lettuce). The body will just excrete the excess. It’s
» kinda like your body is a car, and biotin is extremely cheap gasoline,
» easily obtained: once the tank is full, the rest just spills onto the
» street, unused.
»
» If you take all the vitamin A out of your diet, you will go bald as well.

Biotin how much in one egg? I believe 100mcg
thats not alot thats way less than even 100 percent of the RDA

plus when people eat certain foods (ie sugar, pasta, refined carbs for example) it severely depletes the B vitamins in the bloodstream during digestion

Why do you think that the Super B vitamins have 5000 percent of the RDA of the B vitamins sometimes, in their doses? because the RDA is a joke,

your hair and nails are LAST IN LINE for vits minerals, just because you may be taking enough Bs for your heart lungs brain, first of all how much of that is being absorbed? without the correct mineral balance? how much is getting to your hair? when the hair is last in line?

You keep relying on diet for your hair, I will stick to the supps


#14

The point that I was trying to make is that biotin deficiency (rare, by the way) may very well lead to hair loss, though what does this have to do with a person suffering (not from biotin deficiency but from) male pattern baldness. How is more biotin (above rda, for example) suppose to help him. In other words, is biotin dose dependant?


#15

» The point that I was trying to make is that biotin deficiency (rare, by the
» way) may very well lead to hair loss, though what does this have to do with
» a person suffering (not from biotin deficiency but from) male pattern
» baldness. How is more biotin (above rda, for example) suppose to help him.
» In other words, is biotin dose dependant?

You also missed my point
medically biotin deficient may not be required in order to not be getting enough biotin to the hair.

same with all other vitamins you have to have a large EXCESS in order to insure your hair is getting enough since it is last on the pecking order

plus this is my observation of hair death. As the follicles are dying , partly because the base of the follicles the blood flow is contricted because of DHT buildup, thus the normal vitamin/minerals in the blood, even if normal , will not be sufficient, because the hose is crimped to a degree

do i have proof of this no, but it to me is the reason excess vits/minerals in large doses especially Bs are very beneficial to the hair health.


#16

Users of these multi-vitamins are initially alarmed by the bright yellow/orange color of their urine. Of course, we know, by now, that this is just the excess being excreted.

The body can only accommodate a certain amount of each vitamin daily, and then it will discard the rest within a given period of time, regardless of whether some of it makes its way to the hair follicle.


#17

» Users of these multi-vitamins are initially alarmed by the bright
» yellow/orange color of their urine. Of course, we know, by now, that this
» is just the excess being excreted.
»
» The body can only accommodate a certain amount of each vitamin daily, and
» then it will discard the rest within a given period of time, regardless of
» whether some of it makes its way to the hair follicle.

so because there is excess being excreted how do you know that the body did not need and use half of what was ingested?


#18

» IF YOU really want to watch your hair go nuts
» buy separate MSM and horsetail and take those
»
» Your hair will go nuts
»
» go read studies on MSM, very very very good for the hair
» Horsetail will make your hair and nails grow like a weed, I had to stop
» taking it got tired of cutting my nails every 4 days

Do you take Horsetail in pill form like MSM?


#19

» » IF YOU really want to watch your hair go nuts
» » buy separate MSM and horsetail and take those
» »
» » Your hair will go nuts
» »
» » go read studies on MSM, very very very good for the hair
» » Horsetail will make your hair and nails grow like a weed, I had to stop
» » taking it got tired of cutting my nails every 4 days
»
» Do you take Horsetail in pill form like MSM?

I stopped taking horsetail years ago got tired of cutting my nails so often
even if i wanted to get it here In Manila my suspicion is good luck on that one. they are not a vitamin/supps society like the USA is, vit stores are hard to find and very expensive, every time i find a bottle of something I like or need its 25 bucks here

got to do a big order from the USA soon


#20

» so because there is excess being excreted how do you know that the body did
» not need and use half of what was ingested?

I don’t know. My point is that it doesn’t matter. A cheap commercial product like Maxi Hair will do nothing to protect you in those “DHT-susceptible areas” of the scalp.