http://www.hairlossXXXX.com/hair_cloning/cloning_whatis.cfm
iron_man, this link does not open… what it means this? ( In simple words:
TODAY (not e.g. 10 years ago) I know exactly HOW “hair cloning” (or whatever you call it) WORKS, because I know EVERYTHING obout it, simple because I know every existing (published) scientific paper in this regard - at least the most important one.
In addition, I know EVERY important patent in this regard - and also why they are important, because I know the science ( and “secrets” ) behind them.
But currently I can do nothing - at least for “white” business. Because others (like Aderans or Histogen) have already patents on the successful “HM-Wheel” …
All in all, this will be a BIG and HOT topic in future. Currently it already seems to be “hot” …)
» » Very interesting observance and i can’t say I disagree with most of it.
» My
» » only question is that if Aderans/Bosleys have received patents for
» their
» » discoveries how is it that trs have been awarded for work in their
» field.
» » This doesn’t fit into your scenario of them “riding on the shoulders”
» of
» » others? Not sure how this fits into your explanation.
»
» Maybe here you can find answers:
» ----------------
» Others have [just] claimed to have also reproduced Jahoda’s work
» but nothing has been published in medical journals.
» Even if the basic technique is proven to be consistently reproducible,
» many other issues present roadblocks. Dr. Jahoda obtained a patent
» on implanting cultured papilla for hair restoration but subsequently
» this patent was allowed to expire for various reasons. Any group
» wishing to mount a successful commercial “cloning” venture must face
» challenging intellectual property and patent protection issues. The
» scientific obstacles to implementing this technology are no less daunting.
» Source: http://www.hairlossXXXX.com/hair_cloning/cloning_whatis.cfm
» ----------------
» In simple words:
» TODAY (not e.g. 10 years ago) I know exactly HOW “hair cloning” (or
» whatever you call it) WORKS, because I know EVERYTHING obout it, simple
» because I know every existing (published) scientific paper in this regard -
» at least the most important one.
» In addition, I know EVERY important patent in this regard - and also why
» they are important, because I know the science ( and “secrets” ) behind
» them.
»
» But currently I can do nothing - at least for “white” business. Because
» others (like Aderans or Histogen) have already patents on the
» successful “HM-Wheel” …
»
» All in all, this will be a BIG and HOT topic in future. Currently it
» already seems to be “hot” …
Wow, you know everything about this stuff. This could get very interesting. Tell me everything that’s going on with TrichoScience. Maybe you can enlighten the group here on what is really behind their science. Also, what is the situation with TrichoScience’s use of DSC cells? Is that a differentiator?
» http://www.hairlossXXXX.com/hair_cloning/cloning_whatis.cfm
»
» iron_man, this link does not open… what it means this?
»
Link/URL:
It seems HairSite blocks hairloss related links/URL’s within posts. I have no idea why.
To make it short: REPLACE “XXXX” to “help” within the URL, and the link should work for you.
Regarding HM “TODAY”:
EVERYBODY can do what I oder others can do. That means, every individual can research emerging scientific publications and related patents too. And if you have them all (at least most importent), you will know everything too - and so there are no “secrets” behind HM. That means, every individual, and especially skilled ones (dermatologist, biologist, tissue engineers etc), today are pretty easy able to reproduce all those (written & published) science & research. But doing so, could be VERY risky for them, in regard patent laws etc …
By the way: It seem e.g. this guy/company (?) …
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-47276-page-0-category-1-order-last_answer-descasc-DESC.html
… is doing exactly that, about I’m talking here. That means, it seems he is skilled, but need lot’s of eyes out there, to help him to find all HM related scientific papers out there.
as a general rule: those who claim to know everything usually know nothing.
» » » Very interesting observance and i can’t say I disagree with most of
» it.
» » My
» » » only question is that if Aderans/Bosleys have received patents for
» » their
» » » discoveries how is it that trs have been awarded for work in their
» » field.
» » » This doesn’t fit into your scenario of them “riding on the shoulders”
» » of
» » » others? Not sure how this fits into your explanation.
» »
» » Maybe here you can find answers:
» » ----------------
» » Others have [just] claimed to have also reproduced Jahoda’s
» work
» » but nothing has been published in medical journals.
» » Even if the basic technique is proven to be consistently reproducible,
» » many other issues present roadblocks. Dr. Jahoda obtained a
» patent
» » on implanting cultured papilla for hair restoration but subsequently
» » this patent was allowed to expire for various reasons. Any group
» » wishing to mount a successful commercial “cloning” venture must face
» » challenging intellectual property and patent protection issues. The
» » scientific obstacles to implementing this technology are no less
» daunting.
» » Source: http://www.hairlossXXXX.com/hair_cloning/cloning_whatis.cfm
»
» » ----------------
» » In simple words:
» » TODAY (not e.g. 10 years ago) I know exactly HOW “hair cloning”
» (or
» » whatever you call it) WORKS, because I know EVERYTHING obout it, simple
» » because I know every existing (published) scientific paper in this
» regard -
» » at least the most important one.
» » In addition, I know EVERY important patent in this regard - and also
» why
» » they are important, because I know the science ( and “secrets” ) behind
» » them.
» »
» » But currently I can do nothing - at least for “white” business. Because
» » others (like Aderans or Histogen) have already patents on the
» » successful “HM-Wheel” …
» »
» » All in all, this will be a BIG and HOT topic in future. Currently it
» » already seems to be “hot” …
»
» Wow, you know everything about this stuff. This could get very
» interesting. Tell me everything that’s going on with TrichoScience. Maybe
» you can enlighten the group here on what is really behind their science.
» Also, what is the situation with TrichoScience’s use of DSC cells? Is that
» a differentiator?
» as a general rule: those who claim to know everything usually know
» nothing.
And I agree with your comment.
That means, NOBODY can know everything - so maximal more than others.
» » You have a point about the market being the US. That seems to be where
» the
» » most vanity exists. Go figure a product for hair restoration would
» balloon
» » there. Now, that’s not a dig, its just a fact. You keep referring to a
» » drug or snake oil. I am not getting from the limited amount of knowledge
» on
» » the company, Trichoscience, that they are
» talking about oils, lotions or
» » drugs. I think, from what I’ve read, is that they are
» working from a pure
» » scientific basis on cell biology. I am trying
» to take a fact based point of
» » view and not one of speculation on what government regulated bodies do
» of
» » which I don’t believe any of us are experts. Based on what
» I’ve read
» » recently, TrichoScience just nabbed one of the foremost
» experts in that
» » field.
»
» That is correct - and no secret.
»
» Similar like Intercytex just did it with Dr. Jerry Cooley in 2001,
» TrichoScience did the same with Dr. Kevin McElwee (recruited by Dr. Jerry
» Shapiro) in 2004. Dr. McElwee is one of only a few people in the world who
» hold a doctoral degree in hair biology - but he’s not almighty: All he is
» doing is what most researchers do: Just working on the shoulders (their
» work) of other reasearchers. If there are problems, they just wait how
» other researchers did solve any problem. That is the reason, why they have
» always been 1 or 2 steps behind e.g. Aderans. But McElwee is not the only
» one:
»
» For example, Dr. Cotsarelis (Follica) or Dr. Sinclair (Melbourne
» University) these researchers are just do what others did, resp. already
» found out.
»
» The only REAL (successful) “hair researchers” are behind Aderans/Bosley
» and currently Histogen - and that is among researchers in this field no
» secret. One or both will be the first and the big winner in this field. All
» others will be just 1 or 2 steps behind them - maybe/probably with similar
» problems like currently Histogen. REASON: Since centuries we drive on
» wheels, because it is the only and successful option to move successful
» forward. Similar situation with successful HM … 
» Dr. Washenik (Bosley) and others already mentioned that years ago. That is
» the REASON, why they placed their patents (abstracts) on their website.
» This action you can call “Researchers/Companies, be careful out there!” -
» or something like that …
I just checked very carefully this post again - everything is true.
But the most important point:
» All
» others will be just 1 or 2 steps behind them - maybe/probably with similar
» problems like currently Histogen. REASON: Since centuries we drive on
» wheels, because it is the only and successful option to move successful
» forward. Similar situation with successful HM …
With “successful HM” I meant the real cure for baldness/AGA. And the real cure IS: Effectual hair rejuvenation (through tiny injections of a suspension) of the existing structure within the scalp (1st step) - WITHOUT any compromises, like repeated therapies every 3 or more years or so. BUT like my example with “wheels”, as far as I know, it seems for such a REAL successful procedure, there exists just ONE way (difficult to explain here this complex stuff) for doing so. And if somebody has patented this “just one way”, there I already can see problems for other companies/inventors in future …
it could better explain iron-man?
» Roger, I mean that the first few people to “cheat” in any game always have
» the most choice about it. (Whether “cheating” means doing unnatural things
» to keep looking younger, performing better, whatever. It applies to any
» kind of raising the bar at anything.)
»
»
» If most of the other players in the game have already started cheating,
» then you no longer have as much choice anymore. Now you would be denied
» your rightful place in the rankings just for NOT cheating.
»
» Of course everyone still technically has a choice no matter how many
» people are cheating. But the situation is now unfairly rigged against
» choosing to staying natural.
»
»
»
»
»
» My ultimate point is that when 1 guy in 50 gets cosmetic surgery, it’s
» optional. When 1 guy in 2 is getting it, then it is becoming less and less
» optional and more mandatory to compete in modern life. Cosmetic surgery in
» the USA is not anywhere near 1 in 2 yet, but the trend of increase is
» there.
»
» Once upon a time 100 years ago it was pretty optional to have a full set
» of straight white teeth. Now you can’t get a lot of normal professional
» jobs without it.
i so much agree with what u said!!
