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Hairsite, when will Histogen\'s answers will be published?


#1

any timeline? :stuck_out_tongue:


#2

» any timeline? :stuck_out_tongue:

Some things are beyond my control. Don’t want to give any specific timeline at this point.


#3

» » any timeline? :stuck_out_tongue:
»
» Some things are beyond my control. Don’t want to give any specific
» timeline at this point.

haha, ok.


#4

» » » any timeline? :stuck_out_tongue:
» »
» » Some things are beyond my control. Don’t want to give any specific
» » timeline at this point.
»
»
» haha, ok.

I think the guy from histogen spoke on radio. I heard some of it but not all.I didnt hear anything groundbreaking but what stayed with me is that i think he said that after 3 months the results that they saw started to decline so that means that propably repeating injections will be necessary from time to time.


#5

» I think the guy from histogen spoke on radio. I heard some of it
» but not all.I didnt hear anything groundbreaking but what stayed with me is
» that i think he said that after 3 months the results that they saw started
» to decline so that means that propably repeating injections will be
» necessary from time to time.

I can understand a successful treatment where you have to repeat injections or whatever, but after only three months?

Seriously, if this “treatment” only works for 3 months before the hair starts thinning again, then it is not really a treatment at all.

Some people have suggested that it could be a successful treatment if the injections are repeated, so that the hair regeneration effect adds up cumulatively and you end up with a thick head of hair.

But if the hairs spontaneously fall out after 3 months, even that idea goes down the toilet. If this is true, then this treatment is really a lot worse than Propecia, and probably worse than Rogaine, too.

If the hairs grown by Histogen only last 3 months, then this is a very weak treatment which is very temporary, and is not regenerating hairs in a reliable, long-lasting manner. It is probably only giving a little temporary stimulation to the follicles, not really regenerating hairs or causing new hairs to grow.

And Histogen plans on charging people for this???

The real joke here is they’re hyping it to this extent now, while saying that its release is 5 years away.

I mean, really, who cares about this? Don’t people here have better things to do with their time than drool over some faint hope of growing hairs that only last 3 months? They probably are so weak, too, that they fall out when you brush them. Which only adds to the futility and ridiculousness of all this hype.

Why would I care about waiting 5 years for a product that can only grow hairs that last for 3 months?


#6

» » I think the guy from histogen spoke on radio. I heard some of it
» » but not all.I didnt hear anything groundbreaking but what stayed with me
» is
» » that i think he said that after 3 months the results that they saw
» started
» » to decline so that means that propably repeating injections will be
» » necessary from time to time.
»
» I can understand a successful treatment where you have to repeat
» injections or whatever, but after only three months?
»
» Seriously, if this “treatment” only works for 3 months before the hair
» starts thinning again, then it is not really a treatment at all.
»
» Some people have suggested that it could be a successful treatment if the
» injections are repeated, so that the hair regeneration effect adds up
» cumulatively and you end up with a thick head of hair.
»
» But if the hairs spontaneously fall out after 3 months, even that idea
» goes down the toilet. If this is true, then this treatment is really a lot
» worse than Propecia, and probably worse than Rogaine, too.
»
» If the hairs grown by Histogen only last 3 months, then this is a very
» weak treatment which is very temporary, and is not regenerating hairs in a
» reliable, long-lasting manner. It is probably only giving a little
» temporary stimulation to the follicles, not really regenerating hairs or
» causing new hairs to grow.
»
» And Histogen plans on charging people for this???
»
» The real joke here is they’re hyping it to this extent now, while saying
» that its release is 5 years away.
»
» I mean, really, who cares about this? Don’t people here have better
» things to do with their time than drool over some faint hope of growing
» hairs that only last 3 months? They probably are so weak, too, that they
» fall out when you brush them. Which only adds to the futility and
» ridiculousness of all this hype.
»
» Why would I care about waiting 5 years for a product that can only grow
» hairs that last for 3 months?

first of all…relax and take a deep breath lol.

Its too early to say anything about how often they have to repeat the treatment.remember they only used a small amount to see how people react and if it actually works on humans. they will test how it works best how much they have to administer to avoid any possible sides etc. the research is still in early stages…he just said that for the current dose and trial.

Lets see how it works and if it doesnt have the austin Powers "i lost my mojo"effect that propecia has or the bloated face of minox then i wouldnt mind going in for a touch up every 3-4 times a year :)…the key point is if it works better than this two…if its just a rogaine then i agree with you


#7

»
» Lets see how it works and if it doesnt have the austin Powers "i lost my
» mojo"effect that propecia has

Good point! Austin’s hair IS pretty thick & low for a guy his age! Hmmm . . . ya think?


#8

Why are you so angry? It’s all speculative anyway. This thing is far from being a marketable product.

» » I think the guy from histogen spoke on radio. I heard some of it
» » but not all.I didnt hear anything groundbreaking but what stayed with me
» is
» » that i think he said that after 3 months the results that they saw
» started
» » to decline so that means that propably repeating injections will be
» » necessary from time to time.
»
» I can understand a successful treatment where you have to repeat
» injections or whatever, but after only three months?
»
» Seriously, if this “treatment” only works for 3 months before the hair
» starts thinning again, then it is not really a treatment at all.
»
» Some people have suggested that it could be a successful treatment if the
» injections are repeated, so that the hair regeneration effect adds up
» cumulatively and you end up with a thick head of hair.
»
» But if the hairs spontaneously fall out after 3 months, even that idea
» goes down the toilet. If this is true, then this treatment is really a lot
» worse than Propecia, and probably worse than Rogaine, too.
»
» If the hairs grown by Histogen only last 3 months, then this is a very
» weak treatment which is very temporary, and is not regenerating hairs in a
» reliable, long-lasting manner. It is probably only giving a little
» temporary stimulation to the follicles, not really regenerating hairs or
» causing new hairs to grow.
»
» And Histogen plans on charging people for this???
»
» The real joke here is they’re hyping it to this extent now, while saying
» that its release is 5 years away.
»
» I mean, really, who cares about this? Don’t people here have better
» things to do with their time than drool over some faint hope of growing
» hairs that only last 3 months? They probably are so weak, too, that they
» fall out when you brush them. Which only adds to the futility and
» ridiculousness of all this hype.
»
» Why would I care about waiting 5 years for a product that can only grow
» hairs that last for 3 months?


#9

» Why are you so angry? It’s all speculative anyway. This thing is far from
» being a marketable product.
He’s pissed that the preliminary clinical trial didn’t yield a jewfro for 100% of the test group subjects within 24hours of a single injection. He doesn’t understand the purpose of pre-clinical development is to determine a product’s safety profile.

Than again, maybe he does understand pre-clinical development (it took me 15seconds to google the definition)… maybe he’s just an HT shill trying to undermine HM research so more folks run out to get transplants


#10

» » Why are you so angry? It’s all speculative anyway. This thing is far
» from
» » being a marketable product.
» He’s pissed that the preliminary clinical trial didn’t yield a jewfro for
» 100% of the test group subjects within 24hours of a single injection. He
» doesn’t understand the purpose of pre-clinical development is to determine
» a product’s safety profile.
»
» Than again, maybe he does understand pre-clinical development (it took me
» 15seconds to google the definition)… maybe he’s just an HT shill trying to
» undermine HM research so more folks run out to get transplants

What does hairs falling out after 3 months have to do with “pre-clinical development”? If that’s an inherent weakness of this product, how is “pre-clinical development” going to change that?


#11

What does hairs falling out after 3 months have to do with “pre-clinical development”? If that’s an inherent weakness of this product, how is “pre-clinical development” going to change that?

It means NOBODY knows the answer to your question, so stop implying a doomsday scenario.


#12

» What does hairs falling out after 3 months have to do with
» “pre-clinical development”?
If that’s an inherent weakness of this
» product, how is “pre-clinical development” going to change that?
»
» It means NOBODY knows the answer to your question, so stop implying
» a doomsday scenario.

Nobody knows the answer for sure, but you can take an educated guess based on the fact as they are known now. And even a layman could make an educated guess that if a product grows hairs but they tend to fall out within 3 months, the product is PROBABLY not worth much.

Sure, that could change, but if you had to make an either/or guess, I think you’d have to guess on the side of “not worth much”.


#13

» Nobody knows the answer for sure, but you can take an educated guess based
» on the fact as they are known now. And even a layman could make an
» educated guess that if a product grows hairs but they tend to fall out
» within 3 months, the product is PROBABLY not worth much.

You can base the worst case scenario off YOUR personal hairloss history. IF it took you 10 years to go from NW1 to NW3, and IF histogen merely re-invigorates DHT susceptible hair THAN it’s reasonable to assume you might lose your newly gained hair within a similar timeframe. Of coarse this time around you might take propecia/ rogaine (if you didn’t previously) to slow down the loss further. Histogen also suggested they might work on a shampoo and/or topical that could improve your chance to keep that hair longer. Moreso, David Steinberg (Follica) suggested the circulating levels of DHT actually drop over a man’s life, so that would diminish your doomsday scenario further still.

On the other hand, IF histogen’s research parallels Follica’s, and IF its treatment actually changes the microenvironment of your scalp THAN it’s reasonable to assume you’ll keep that newly gained hair for much longer than in the previous scenario.


#14

the radio show is online you can go and listen all of it and draw your own conclusions.But i dont know if i can put a link where you can find it because i think i mentioned the site but it got erased.

Is there a problem with putting a link here hairsite? If it is i can go and listen to it all and you can ask me questions…or i dont know pm me or something i am not sure if its a problem.Its really interesting and if you guys listen to it you can choose your questions more wisely to histogen because some might be allready answered there.


#15

If they did manage to switch on the anagen phase of hair cycle (even though the hair falls out after 3 months), there is a good chance they can alter the formula and make the anagen phase last longer.


#16

» If they did manage to switch on the anagen phase of hair cycle (even though
» the hair falls out after 3 months), there is a good chance they can alter
» the formula and make the anagen phase last longer.

guys i am listening to it now again and they say after 5 months the results started to fall back.

He said that the results were from a preliminary study for safety…they show an increase in the number of terminal hairs in 85% of people who participated also general thickening of the hair that were there. no adverse reactions or anything and it didnt need any stimulating of the scalp of any kind. they showed this after 3 months and the hair were normal in thickness and direction…it was only one injection of a little medicine.Only one injection so things might change if they use a stronger concentration and more shots…also he implied that in the mean time you can use some topical of some kind to hold the results longer.And then they show a slight decrease after 5 MONTHS

ALSO HE SAID SOMETHING WHICH I FIND AMAZING.He said that the compound would not work on scarred areas because someone asked if it can help grow follicles in transplant scars.He said no but what might be possible is inject this thing in the donor area and then more hair will grow there!!!so you will have a really thick donor area for fue transplants!!!Then when you have an FUE procedure and inject the donor area before it heals so more follicles will grow and if you do that again and again you might create a donor that never runs out!!!This is huge it means that even if it doesnt grow hair on the recipient of people who have lost their hair for years and they dont have live follicles…it can ata least make your donor to never run out so you can have a transplant with infinite donor hair!!!


#17

» » » Why are you so angry? It’s all speculative anyway. This thing is far
» » from
» » » being a marketable product.
» » He’s pissed that the preliminary clinical trial didn’t yield a jewfro
» for
» » 100% of the test group subjects within 24hours of a single injection.
» He
» » doesn’t understand the purpose of pre-clinical development is to
» determine
» » a product’s safety profile.
» »
» » Than again, maybe he does understand pre-clinical development (it took
» me
» » 15seconds to google the definition)… maybe he’s just an HT shill trying
» to
» » undermine HM research so more folks run out to get transplants
»
» What does hairs falling out after 3 months have to do with “pre-clinical
» development”? If that’s an inherent weakness of this product, how is
» “pre-clinical development” going to change that?

Hair falling out? What are you talking about…what was posted from what was heard, said the results started degrading, to me that could mean the results were not as great after a certain amount of time, not that the results were lost…and now you negatively say ‘falling out’? lololol How about…we all start getting leprosy and other body parts started to fall off…I mean the results started degrading, maybe it means our whole bodies are falling apart…you know, if you ‘interpret’ the words to mean whatever you want them to mean…


#18

»
» ALSO HE SAID SOMETHING WHICH I FIND AMAZING.He said that the compound
» would not work on scarred areas because someone asked if it can help grow
» follicles in transplant scars.He said no but what might be possible is
» inject this thing in the donor area and then more hair will grow there!!!so
» you will have a really thick donor area for fue transplants!!!Then when
» you have an FUE procedure and inject the donor area before it heals so more
» follicles will grow and if you do that again and again you might create a
» donor that never runs out!!!This is huge it means that even if it doesnt
» grow hair on the recipient of people who have lost their hair for years and
» they dont have live follicles…it can ata least make your donor to never
» run out so you can have a transplant with infinite donor hair!!!

It`s realy amasing! thanks for post


#19

» »
» » ALSO HE SAID SOMETHING WHICH I FIND AMAZING.He said that the compound
» » would not work on scarred areas because someone asked if it can help
» grow
» » follicles in transplant scars.He said no but what might be possible is
» » inject this thing in the donor area and then more hair will grow
» there!!!so
» » you will have a really thick donor area for fue transplants!!!Then
» when
» » you have an FUE procedure and inject the donor area before it heals so
» more
» » follicles will grow and if you do that again and again you might create
» a
» » donor that never runs out!!!This is huge it means that even if it
» doesnt
» » grow hair on the recipient of people who have lost their hair for years
» and
» » they dont have live follicles…it can ata least make your donor to
» never
» » run out so you can have a transplant with infinite donor hair!!!
»
» It`s realy amasing! thanks for post

alert! that s a load of crap, we are all born with a fixed # of follicles, these people r trying to sell this like they can multiply follicles and create unlimited follicles for fue, get real


#20

» alert! that s a load of crap, we are all born with a fixed # of
» follicles, these people r trying to sell this like they can multiply
» follicles and create unlimited follicles for fue, get real

we are all born with a fixed # of any organ BUT (theoretically) we could grow any part of our body using stem cells or growth factors…
It`s a future :wink: get real