Hello to all,
A couple of weeks ago I asked for some advice regarding either Dr. Bisanga or Dr. Devoyre since they both are in Europe. I have been reading several forums and I come to a conclusion that there are only a handful of doctors that provide consistent results.
I read somewhere that Dr. Hasson is probably the best in strip and Dr. Bisanga in FUE. If you had to choose btw one dr and another which one would you decide. Can anyone describe each of them in detail and give me the pros and cons and a comparison of their techniques. Apparently dr. bisanga worked with Dr. Cole, he is considered a rising star in the wld of hair transplant.
In my case I need btw 4000 and 4500 grafts and if both doctors are comparable I would rather stay within Europe. In other words, if Dr. Hasson is just a little bit better than Bisanga I would not take on the trip, only if the first is significantly better than the other.
Thanks to all you have been such a great help!
Without starting another strip-fue war.
Generally FUE is considered a far less invasive procedure than strip. Both procedures produce equal results in the hands of docs with experience in strip or FUE.
If you are looking for mega sessions strip I guess US based docs have the edge. In the case of mega session FUE I believe Europe has better options nowadays.
BV
BV
Consultant for Prohairclinic Belgium
FUE only institute since 2004
Specialized in FUE megasessions
You have two great clinics that you will have to choose from. No one can make that decision for you. They both have good honest track records. Honest being the key word.
» You have two great clinics that you will have to choose from. No one can
» make that decision for you. They both have good honest track records.
» Honest being the key word.
It just depends on what you want. There is definiley less scarring and recovery time with FUE. It also gives you the option to shave your head. Strip however is a little cheaper and seems to have more success stories in terms of large sesssions.
» It just depends on what you want. There is definiley less scarring and
» recovery time with FUE. It also gives you the option to shave your head.
» Strip however is a little cheaper and seems to have more success stories
» in terms of large sesssions.
Yep that’s the size of it. Maybe FUE is about to turn the corner in terms of numbers. I hope H&W take note and get involved!
If we inverse the dollar/Euro conversion FUE grafts would be around 2,5 -3,5 dollars per graft !
» Hello to all,
» A couple of weeks ago I asked for some advice regarding either Dr. Bisanga
» or Dr. Devoyre since they both are in Europe. I have been reading several
» forums and I come to a conclusion that there are only a handful of doctors
» that provide consistent results.
» I read somewhere that Dr. Hasson is probably the best in strip and Dr.
» Bisanga in FUE. If you had to choose btw one dr and another which one
» would you decide. Can anyone describe each of them in detail and give me
» the pros and cons and a comparison of their techniques. Apparently dr.
» bisanga worked with Dr. Cole, he is considered a rising star in the wld of
» hair transplant.
» In my case I need btw 4000 and 4500 grafts and if both doctors are
» comparable I would rather stay within Europe. In other words, if Dr.
» Hasson is just a little bit better than Bisanga I would not take on the
» trip, only if the first is significantly better than the other.
» Thanks to all you have been such a great help!
Hey Boris,
if u look for Hasson or Bisanga, than Hasson is the better one. U can find much more patients of him with higher megasessions like >4000 Grafts and look at the scars, u cant find them. Hasson is the best strip doc u can find and i would not think about traveling, when i choose my doc.
First issue: How do the Docs handle with complaints. Is there any trouble u have better cards with Hasson. I know two bad cases with Bisanga and i know one case of Hasson, that he did not like his result and offered the guy a free repair, although that guys did not demand anything.
Second issue: Look at the rooms of Hasson and look at the rooms of Bisanga. A big world between them. And than compare the price.
do more research,
» » Hello to all,
» » A couple of weeks ago I asked for some advice regarding either Dr.
» Bisanga
» » or Dr. Devoyre since they both are in Europe. I have been reading
» several
» » forums and I come to a conclusion that there are only a handful of
» doctors
» » that provide consistent results.
» » I read somewhere that Dr. Hasson is probably the best in strip and Dr.
» » Bisanga in FUE. If you had to choose btw one dr and another which one
» » would you decide. Can anyone describe each of them in detail and give
» me
» » the pros and cons and a comparison of their techniques. Apparently dr.
» » bisanga worked with Dr. Cole, he is considered a rising star in the wld
» of
» » hair transplant.
» » In my case I need btw 4000 and 4500 grafts and if both doctors are
» » comparable I would rather stay within Europe. In other words, if Dr.
» » Hasson is just a little bit better than Bisanga I would not take on the
» » trip, only if the first is significantly better than the other.
» » Thanks to all you have been such a great help!
»
»
»
» Hey Boris,
»
» if u look for Hasson or Bisanga, than Hasson is the better one. U can find
» much more patients of him with higher megasessions like >4000 Grafts and
» look at the scars, u cant find them. Hasson is the best strip doc u can
» find and i would not think about traveling, when i choose my doc.
» First issue: How do the Docs handle with complaints. Is there any trouble
» u have better cards with Hasson. I know two bad cases with Bisanga and i
» know one case of Hasson, that he did not like his result and offered the
» guy a free repair, although that guys did not demand anything.
» Second issue: Look at the rooms of Hasson and look at the rooms of
» Bisanga. A big world between them. And than compare the price.
»
» do more research,
Thank you NW5a. When you say look at the rooms, what do you mean exactly?
I am not so much into prices, I just want the best knock out result. In my case I might need no more than 4000 grafts.
Hasson is excellent with strip or FUE, what about Bisanga? Could it be that Bisanga has been less time in the industry?
» » Hello to all,
» » A couple of weeks ago I asked for some advice regarding either Dr.
» Bisanga
» » or Dr. Devoyre since they both are in Europe. I have been reading
» several
» » forums and I come to a conclusion that there are only a handful of
» doctors
» » that provide consistent results.
» » I read somewhere that Dr. Hasson is probably the best in strip and Dr.
» » Bisanga in FUE. If you had to choose btw one dr and another which one
» » would you decide. Can anyone describe each of them in detail and give
» me
» » the pros and cons and a comparison of their techniques. Apparently dr.
» » bisanga worked with Dr. Cole, he is considered a rising star in the wld
» of
» » hair transplant.
» » In my case I need btw 4000 and 4500 grafts and if both doctors are
» » comparable I would rather stay within Europe. In other words, if Dr.
» » Hasson is just a little bit better than Bisanga I would not take on the
» » trip, only if the first is significantly better than the other.
» » Thanks to all you have been such a great help!
»
»
»
» Hey Boris,
»
» if u look for Hasson or Bisanga, than Hasson is the better one. U can find
» much more patients of him with higher megasessions like >4000 Grafts and
» look at the scars, u cant find them. Hasson is the best strip doc u can
» find and i would not think about traveling, when i choose my doc.
» First issue: How do the Docs handle with complaints. Is there any trouble
» u have better cards with Hasson. I know two bad cases with Bisanga and i
» know one case of Hasson, that he did not like his result and offered the
» guy a free repair, although that guys did not demand anything.
» Second issue: Look at the rooms of Hasson and look at the rooms of
» Bisanga. A big world between them. And than compare the price.
»
» do more research,
By the way NW5, when you mean you know 2 bad cases of Bisanga could you be more specific as to how bad they were, also in regard to Hasson, how bad was the case. Are they up on the net somewhere so that I can see the worst case scenario possible??
Thank you greatly.
» » » Hello to all,
» » » A couple of weeks ago I asked for some advice regarding either Dr.
» » Bisanga
» » » or Dr. Devoyre since they both are in Europe. I have been reading
» » several
» » » forums and I come to a conclusion that there are only a handful of
» » doctors
» » » that provide consistent results.
» » » I read somewhere that Dr. Hasson is probably the best in strip and
» Dr.
» » » Bisanga in FUE. If you had to choose btw one dr and another which
» one
» » » would you decide. Can anyone describe each of them in detail and
» give
» » me
» » » the pros and cons and a comparison of their techniques. Apparently
» dr.
» » » bisanga worked with Dr. Cole, he is considered a rising star in the
» wld
» » of
» » » hair transplant.
» » » In my case I need btw 4000 and 4500 grafts and if both doctors are
» » » comparable I would rather stay within Europe. In other words, if Dr.
» » » Hasson is just a little bit better than Bisanga I would not take on
» the
» » » trip, only if the first is significantly better than the other.
» » » Thanks to all you have been such a great help!
» »
» »
» »
» » Hey Boris,
» »
» » if u look for Hasson or Bisanga, than Hasson is the better one. U can
» find
» » much more patients of him with higher megasessions like >4000 Grafts
» and
» » look at the scars, u cant find them. Hasson is the best strip doc u can
» » find and i would not think about traveling, when i choose my doc.
» » First issue: How do the Docs handle with complaints. Is there any
» trouble
» » u have better cards with Hasson. I know two bad cases with Bisanga and
» i
» » know one case of Hasson, that he did not like his result and offered
» the
» » guy a free repair, although that guys did not demand anything.
» » Second issue: Look at the rooms of Hasson and look at the rooms of
» » Bisanga. A big world between them. And than compare the price.
» »
» » do more research,
»
»
» By the way NW5, when you mean you know 2 bad cases of Bisanga could you be
» more specific as to how bad they were, also in regard to Hasson, how bad
» was the case. Are they up on the net somewhere so that I can see the
» worst case scenario possible??
Hasson is only doing strip. Bisanga FUE and strip. One case u can find here in this board another one in a german board. Haartransplantation Forum : BHR/Bisanga » Frustiert nach HT und breite Narbe
The case of Hasson u can find on hairlosshelp, i think the users name was deadhead ! Both had poor growth, but the last one of Bisanga had a very bad scar.
I would prefer Hasson.
» Thank you greatly.
» Hasson is only doing strip. Bisanga FUE and strip. One case u can find
» here in this board another one in a german board.
» Haartransplantation Forum : BHR/Bisanga » Frustiert nach HT und breite Narbe
It’s really hard to make judgments based on trying to read a patients complaint on a German forum.
I’ve seen exceptional work where patients complained about their results and terrible work where patients were pleased. It’s hard to know sometimes what will make someone happy.
This is what freetranslation.com came up for that post via computer translation–it’s pretty hard to understand:
Hello am 2006 after the strip method treats had become ne HT before in moser had was to be sure not so badly saw however a few unnaturally out of the scar behind was however really super very schmal,ca.1-2mm. after long investigation on the Internet and various fora (also here!)! decided I me then yet for ne further op (doctor bisanga). On the spot declared the doc that my prior ht so well was not me however that it could make that. My wish was to be formed the entire a more little more natural and condense also head concern in the middle well. One promised caused convinced dense packing,bzw.60fu’s per cm², generally he very of itself and of that what he does said me then also would sit like zb. after that become I an entirely new person be the through shimmer effect becomes it also no longer give what me then yet a surprised was me that he even my old scar criticized although, like just now already mentioned it really very good to few It said becomes it with its own technick entirely super almost not visible and then yet very shortly could carry sounded my hairs all really crazy. 2000 grafts had been settled were to be mentioned still had thought can become was my expectations the entschprechend very highly in the translantierten area I a thick of ca.30fus per cm². I it only better what after that happened no longer so beautiful. What I introduced me that the hair line should be formed somewhat more natural, but most grafts come into the middle. But the Doc went in would wish here too little on mine and he meant only he would be the physician and he would know better would be and went was ask what then much too deeply with the new hair extension down. I equally very sceptically also during the operation I again to because I assessed frightened in the mirror, that little grafts come into the middle and almost all into the hair line I should await and would become would know it well it what it would make. I waited would avoid are set became are however nevertheless ab.14monate späther the disappointment pure the hairs in that exactly so lightly because there hardly what in the new line the same of dense packing generally no rede,40fus per cm² prerequisite for danse packing, I have not once 30, promised were however 60! For me, that sees however yet more badly is is found is place can forgotten earlier shortly was able to shave now more badly out of like previously after haarausfall what my new scar that I previously well it at some even 2cm extend therefore special technick simply a short hair hair-style I I behind now even 6mm now only a dream. Perhaps it is failed a really good physician however with me he on the entire line! Simply very much noise around nothing really would damage and am frustrated very!!! had after that my discontent announced and were declined had would meet taken two appointments however both short-termed for that extra two vacation also not very profesionell.
Wanted now once your objective opinions hear. Do scars with FUE plant? Would thank for your aids!!
Hello,
I defenately agree with you Peter, in many cases its not objective its pretty much how the person feels, his previous expectations and the end result for him. I am sure any surgeon can have bad cases, we can all make mistakes, however, my point was to move on averages not on exceptional cases. I hear dr. Bisanga is really good, perhaps not as experienced as dr. Hasson, but consider the fact that for someone living in Europe its not an easy task to take a flight and go to Vancouver. If Dr. Bisanga is very good, I could compromise perfection for having him quite nearby, also in case anything were to happen you have your doctor in Belgium as opposed to half a world away.
I have not yet made a decision as to what doctor to choose, I am just trying to find the best ones in Europe. Thank you NW5 for your help and advice, greatly appreciated.
» » Hasson is only doing strip. Bisanga FUE and strip. One case u can find
» » here in this board another one in a german board.
» » Haartransplantation Forum : BHR/Bisanga » Frustiert nach HT und breite Narbe
»
» It’s really hard to make judgments based on trying to read a patients
» complaint on a German forum.
»
» I’ve seen exceptional work where patients complained about their results
» and terrible work where patients were pleased. It’s hard to know
» sometimes what will make someone happy.
»
» This is what freetranslation.com came up for that post via computer
» translation–it’s pretty hard to understand:
»
» Hello am 2006 after the strip method treats had become ne HT before in
» moser had was to be sure not so badly saw however a few unnaturally out of
» the scar behind was however really super very schmal,ca.1-2mm. after long
» investigation on the Internet and various fora (also here!)! decided I me
» then yet for ne further op (doctor bisanga). On the spot declared the doc
» that my prior ht so well was not me however that it could make that. My
» wish was to be formed the entire a more little more natural and condense
» also head concern in the middle well. One promised caused convinced dense
» packing,bzw.60fu’s per cm², generally he very of itself and of that what he
» does said me then also would sit like zb. after that become I an entirely
» new person be the through shimmer effect becomes it also no longer give
» what me then yet a surprised was me that he even my old scar criticized
» although, like just now already mentioned it really very good to few It
» said becomes it with its own technick entirely super almost not visible
» and then yet very shortly could carry sounded my hairs all really crazy.
» 2000 grafts had been settled were to be mentioned still had thought can
» become was my expectations the entschprechend very highly in the
» translantierten area I a thick of ca.30fus per cm². I it only better what » after that happened no longer so beautiful. What I introduced me that the » hair line should be formed somewhat more natural, but most grafts come » into the middle. But the Doc went in would wish here too little on mine » and he meant only he would be the physician and he would know better would » be and went was ask what then much too deeply with the new hair extension » down. I equally very sceptically also during the operation I again to » because I assessed frightened in the mirror, that little grafts come into » the middle and almost all into the hair line I should await and would » become would know it well it what it would make. I waited would avoid are » set became are however nevertheless ab.14monate späther the disappointment » pure the hairs in that exactly so lightly because there hardly what in the » new line the same of dense packing generally no rede,40fus per cm²
» prerequisite for danse packing, I have not once 30, promised were however
» 60! For me, that sees however yet more badly is is found is place can
» forgotten earlier shortly was able to shave now more badly out of like
» previously after haarausfall what my new scar that I previously well it at
» some even 2cm extend therefore special technick simply a short hair
» hair-style I I behind now even 6mm now only a dream. Perhaps it is failed
» a really good physician however with me he on the entire line! Simply very
» much noise around nothing really would damage and am frustrated very!!! had
» after that my discontent announced and were declined had would meet taken
» two appointments however both short-termed for that extra two vacation
» also not very profesionell.
»
» Wanted now once your objective opinions hear. Do scars with FUE plant?
» Would thank for your aids!!
» » Hasson is only doing strip. Bisanga FUE and strip. One case u can find
» » here in this board another one in a german board.
» » Haartransplantation Forum : BHR/Bisanga » Frustiert nach HT und breite Narbe
»
» It’s really hard to make judgments based on trying to read a patients
» complaint on a German forum.
»
» I’ve seen exceptional work where patients complained about their results
» and terrible work where patients were pleased. It’s hard to know
» sometimes what will make someone happy.
»
» This is what freetranslation.com came up for that post via computer
» translation–it’s pretty hard to understand:
»
» Hello am 2006 after the strip method treats had become ne HT before in
» moser had was to be sure not so badly saw however a few unnaturally out of
» the scar behind was however really super very schmal,ca.1-2mm. after long
» investigation on the Internet and various fora (also here!)! decided I me
» then yet for ne further op (doctor bisanga). On the spot declared the doc
» that my prior ht so well was not me however that it could make that. My
» wish was to be formed the entire a more little more natural and condense
» also head concern in the middle well. One promised caused convinced dense
» packing,bzw.60fu’s per cm², generally he very of itself and of that what he
» does said me then also would sit like zb. after that become I an entirely
» new person be the through shimmer effect becomes it also no longer give
» what me then yet a surprised was me that he even my old scar criticized
» although, like just now already mentioned it really very good to few It
» said becomes it with its own technick entirely super almost not visible
» and then yet very shortly could carry sounded my hairs all really crazy.
» 2000 grafts had been settled were to be mentioned still had thought can
» become was my expectations the entschprechend very highly in the
» translantierten area I a thick of ca.30fus per cm². I it only better what » after that happened no longer so beautiful. What I introduced me that the » hair line should be formed somewhat more natural, but most grafts come » into the middle. But the Doc went in would wish here too little on mine » and he meant only he would be the physician and he would know better would » be and went was ask what then much too deeply with the new hair extension » down. I equally very sceptically also during the operation I again to » because I assessed frightened in the mirror, that little grafts come into » the middle and almost all into the hair line I should await and would » become would know it well it what it would make. I waited would avoid are » set became are however nevertheless ab.14monate späther the disappointment » pure the hairs in that exactly so lightly because there hardly what in the » new line the same of dense packing generally no rede,40fus per cm²
» prerequisite for danse packing, I have not once 30, promised were however
» 60! For me, that sees however yet more badly is is found is place can
» forgotten earlier shortly was able to shave now more badly out of like
» previously after haarausfall what my new scar that I previously well it at
» some even 2cm extend therefore special technick simply a short hair
» hair-style I I behind now even 6mm now only a dream. Perhaps it is failed
» a really good physician however with me he on the entire line! Simply very
» much noise around nothing really would damage and am frustrated very!!! had
» after that my discontent announced and were declined had would meet taken
» two appointments however both short-termed for that extra two vacation
» also not very profesionell.
»
» Wanted now once your objective opinions hear. Do scars with FUE plant?
» Would thank for your aids!!
Hello Peter,
you re right, thats not easy if there are problems with the language. But Pics say more than thousand words in that case ! Look at them, the scar is state of the art ? I know many cases of Bisanga, which look very good, but Boris asked for Hasson or Wong. And my reasons to go to Hasson, i have explained enough.
Boris,
do more research.
Mwamba, Devroye, Feriduni, Heitmann are good docs in Europe, too.
» » » Hasson is only doing strip. Bisanga FUE and strip. One case u can find
» » » here in this board another one in a german board.
» » » Haartransplantation Forum : BHR/Bisanga » Frustiert nach HT und breite Narbe
» »
» » It’s really hard to make judgments based on trying to read a patients
» » complaint on a German forum.
» »
» » I’ve seen exceptional work where patients complained about their
» results
» » and terrible work where patients were pleased. It’s hard to know
» » sometimes what will make someone happy.
» »
» » This is what freetranslation.com came up for that post via computer
» » translation–it’s pretty hard to understand:
» »
» » Hello am 2006 after the strip method treats had become ne HT before in
» » moser had was to be sure not so badly saw however a few unnaturally out
» of
» » the scar behind was however really super very schmal,ca.1-2mm. after
» long
» » investigation on the Internet and various fora (also here!)! decided I
» me
» » then yet for ne further op (doctor bisanga). On the spot declared the
» doc
» » that my prior ht so well was not me however that it could make that.
» My
» » wish was to be formed the entire a more little more natural and
» condense
» » also head concern in the middle well. One promised caused convinced
» dense
» » packing,bzw.60fu’s per cm², generally he very of itself and of that what
» he
» » does said me then also would sit like zb. after that become I an
» entirely
» » new person be the through shimmer effect becomes it also no longer give
» » what me then yet a surprised was me that he even my old scar criticized
» » although, like just now already mentioned it really very good to few It
» » said becomes it with its own technick entirely super almost not visible
» » and then yet very shortly could carry sounded my hairs all really crazy.
»
» » 2000 grafts had been settled were to be mentioned still had thought can
» » become was my expectations the entschprechend very highly in the
» » translantierten area I a thick of ca.30fus per cm². I it only better » what » » after that happened no longer so beautiful. What I introduced me that » the » » hair line should be formed somewhat more natural, but most grafts come » » into the middle. But the Doc went in would wish here too little on » mine » » and he meant only he would be the physician and he would know better » would » » be and went was ask what then much too deeply with the new hair » extension » » down. I equally very sceptically also during the operation I again to » » because I assessed frightened in the mirror, that little grafts come » into » » the middle and almost all into the hair line I should await and would » » become would know it well it what it would make. I waited would avoid » are » » set became are however nevertheless ab.14monate späther the » disappointment » » pure the hairs in that exactly so lightly because there hardly what in » the » » new line the same of dense packing generally no rede,40fus per cm²
» » prerequisite for danse packing, I have not once 30, promised were
» however
» » 60! For me, that sees however yet more badly is is found is place can
» » forgotten earlier shortly was able to shave now more badly out of like
» » previously after haarausfall what my new scar that I previously well it
» at
» » some even 2cm extend therefore special technick simply a short hair
» » hair-style I I behind now even 6mm now only a dream. Perhaps it is
» failed
» » a really good physician however with me he on the entire line! Simply
» very
» » much noise around nothing really would damage and am frustrated very!!!
» had
» » after that my discontent announced and were declined had would meet
» taken
» » two appointments however both short-termed for that extra two vacation
» » also not very profesionell.
» »
» » Wanted now once your objective opinions hear. Do scars with FUE plant?
»
» » Would thank for your aids!!
»
»
» Hello Peter,
»
» you re right, thats not easy if there are problems with the language. But
» Pics say more than thousand words in that case ! Look at them, the scar is
» state of the art ? I know many cases of Bisanga, which look very good, but
» Boris asked for Hasson or Wong. And my reasons to go to Hasson, i have
» explained enough.
»
»
» Boris,
»
» do more research, there are many other, who are doing good work. Dont look
» only in forums, cause there are many paid cheerleaders.
»
» Mwamba, Devroye, Feriduni, Heitmann are good docs in Europe, too.
Hi NW5,
I opened a discussion regarding dr. bisanga and dr. devorye and I got a vast mayority of people going for dr. bisanga. I am sure there are people who represent certain clinics and just post msgs which are one sided of course.
However in Europe as you well put it there are only a handful and you named some of the most reputable ones, however, I would like, if possible, to tell me whats what you dont specially like about dr. bisanga and for that case, why choose dr. devorye for instance… The cases that I have seen through pictures and comparing dr. devorye and dr. bisanga, dr bisangas results seem to be much better. I have seen worst cases of dr. devoyre as well.
Regarding dr. heitmann, for what I know he is pretty new in the industry although I am sure he must be very skilled, but there seem to be little cases of patients of him. As for dr. Mwamba and dr. Feridini I have never even heard.
Thanks!
» » » » Hasson is only doing strip. Bisanga FUE and strip. One case u can
» find
» » » » here in this board another one in a german board.
» » » » Haartransplantation Forum : BHR/Bisanga » Frustiert nach HT und breite Narbe
» » »
» » » It’s really hard to make judgments based on trying to read a patients
» » » complaint on a German forum.
» » »
» » » I’ve seen exceptional work where patients complained about their
» » results
» » » and terrible work where patients were pleased. It’s hard to know
» » » sometimes what will make someone happy.
» » »
» » » This is what freetranslation.com came up for that post via computer
» » » translation–it’s pretty hard to understand:
» » »
» » » Hello am 2006 after the strip method treats had become ne HT before
» in
» » » moser had was to be sure not so badly saw however a few unnaturally
» out
» » of
» » » the scar behind was however really super very schmal,ca.1-2mm. after
» » long
» » » investigation on the Internet and various fora (also here!)! decided
» I
» » me
» » » then yet for ne further op (doctor bisanga). On the spot declared
» the
» » doc
» » » that my prior ht so well was not me however that it could make that.
» » My
» » » wish was to be formed the entire a more little more natural and
» » condense
» » » also head concern in the middle well. One promised caused convinced
» » dense
» » » packing,bzw.60fu’s per cm², generally he very of itself and of that
» what
» » he
» » » does said me then also would sit like zb. after that become I an
» » entirely
» » » new person be the through shimmer effect becomes it also no longer
» give
» » » what me then yet a surprised was me that he even my old scar
» criticized
» » » although, like just now already mentioned it really very good to few
» It
» » » said becomes it with its own technick entirely super almost not
» visible
» » » and then yet very shortly could carry sounded my hairs all really
» crazy.
» »
» » » 2000 grafts had been settled were to be mentioned still had thought
» can
» » » become was my expectations the entschprechend very highly in the
» » » translantierten area I a thick of ca.30fus per cm². I it only better » » what » » » after that happened no longer so beautiful. What I introduced me » that » » the » » » hair line should be formed somewhat more natural, but most grafts » come » » » into the middle. But the Doc went in would wish here too little on » » mine » » » and he meant only he would be the physician and he would know better » » would » » » be and went was ask what then much too deeply with the new hair » » extension » » » down. I equally very sceptically also during the operation I again to » » » because I assessed frightened in the mirror, that little grafts come » » into » » » the middle and almost all into the hair line I should await and would » » » become would know it well it what it would make. I waited would » avoid » » are » » » set became are however nevertheless ab.14monate späther the » » disappointment » » » pure the hairs in that exactly so lightly because there hardly what » in » » the » » » new line the same of dense packing generally no rede,40fus per cm²
» » » prerequisite for danse packing, I have not once 30, promised were
» » however
» » » 60! For me, that sees however yet more badly is is found is place
» can
» » » forgotten earlier shortly was able to shave now more badly out of
» like
» » » previously after haarausfall what my new scar that I previously well
» it
» » at
» » » some even 2cm extend therefore special technick simply a short hair
» » » hair-style I I behind now even 6mm now only a dream. Perhaps it is
» » failed
» » » a really good physician however with me he on the entire line!
» Simply
» » very
» » » much noise around nothing really would damage and am frustrated
» very!!!
» » had
» » » after that my discontent announced and were declined had would meet
» » taken
» » » two appointments however both short-termed for that extra two
» vacation
» » » also not very profesionell.
» » »
» » » Wanted now once your objective opinions hear. Do scars with FUE
» plant?
» »
» » » Would thank for your aids!!
» »
» »
» » Hello Peter,
» »
» » you re right, thats not easy if there are problems with the language.
» But
» » Pics say more than thousand words in that case ! Look at them, the scar
» is
» » state of the art ? I know many cases of Bisanga, which look very good,
» but
» » Boris asked for Hasson or Wong. And my reasons to go to Hasson, i have
» » explained enough.
» »
» »
» » Boris,
» »
» » do more research, there are many other, who are doing good work. Dont
» look
» » only in forums, cause there are many paid cheerleaders.
» »
» » Mwamba, Devroye, Feriduni, Heitmann are good docs in Europe, too.
»
»
» Hi NW5,
» I opened a discussion regarding dr. bisanga and dr. devorye and I got a
» vast mayority of people going for dr. bisanga. I am sure there are people
» who represent certain clinics and just post msgs which are one sided of
» course.
»
» However in Europe as you well put it there are only a handful and you
» named some of the most reputable ones, however, I would like, if possible,
» to tell me whats what you dont specially like about dr. bisanga and for
» that case, why choose dr. devorye for instance… The cases that I have
» seen through pictures and comparing dr. devorye and dr. bisanga, dr
» bisangas results seem to be much better. I have seen worst cases of dr.
» devoyre as well.
» Regarding dr. heitmann, for what I know he is pretty new in the industry
» although I am sure he must be very skilled, but there seem to be little
» cases of patients of him. As for dr. Mwamba and dr. Feridini I have never
» even heard.
»
» Thanks!
Meet your favourite docs and hear about your feelings. Make online consultations to get a plan, what the most docs think about your situation.
My problem with Bisanga is the care after the surgery. Dont forget that, if u re not happy with your result or there are any complaints - you re alone. I hear about some cases, so that´s why i have not choosen him. The Price is also high, so i could fly over see to master wong or don hasson.
Make a consultation with Heitmann for example. Call him and speak to him.
Good luck
Hi NW5,
By the way did you get a hair transplant done, if so with who? I have visited his website (dr. Heitmann) and it looks good, however I have not heard much about him. Anything you can tell me about him, in other words, how long has he been in the industry, with who did he get trained? How do you know his after care was so good? By the way, I would like to get in touch with you through email, any chance we could? My email is boris342002@yahoo.com
Thank you!!
»
» Meet your favourite docs and hear about your feelings. Make online
» consultations to get a plan, what the most docs think about your
» situation.
»
» My problem with Bisanga is the care after the surgery. Dont forget that,
» if u re not happy with your result or there are any complaints - you re
» alone. I hear about some cases, so that´s why i have not choosen him. The
» Price is also high, so i could fly over see to master wong or don hasson.
»
»
» Make a consultation with Heitmann for example. Call him and speak to him.
»
» Good luck
Hi boris,
Let me start by saying I am a fan of Bisanga and Hasson just so there is no misunderstanding about what I am saying. I have not had a hair transplant with either of them or any doc mentioned on this thread, I’ve had a hair transplant in the past in the UK. I’ve had a consultation with Hasson and was pleased with the replies and I have met Dr Bisanga for a consultation in Brussels and was happy with the time and way he conducted himself. I have also emailed, spoken and seen different patients of Bisanga, all spoke to have had only good things to say about him as a person, their experience and the way they were treated throughout. I was also able to see his surgery rooms, they were large, clean and fully equipped, no doubt the same as H&W’s are.
My honest opinion is both are very good docs, Dr Hasson has very little to prove, always providing great results, Dr Bisanga is newer on the block, but has also probably been the most consistant at results, there are many to be seen elsewhere on the net. I think they have different styles a little, especially hair lines, and that is personal, so you should think about that also, but I do not think you can go wrong with either of them.
I am sure we can all find cases of patients from all doctors where they are not happy; If a doc a one or two problems and a the rest of the are good then I think that is not a bad %. I know like Hassons case for example Bisnaga offered a refund or add more grafts so the intention with both of them seems good. But as none of us know all the story especially on forums where there is so much said and anyone can say anything; so be careful what is said and what is reality, they can be very different.
I am curious to know why NW5a has this obsessive nature posting only on threads where Bisanga maybe recommended, my feeling is when someone keeps blabbing on like he does there is more to it than genuine advise and concern; you make one post and it is said, why repeat it constantly, deflecting away from one specific Doc to so many others, it almost seems a little personal or contived. If he was an ex patient with a gripe it would be obvious but he is not that, maybe he had his op with Dr Hietmann and very happy, both docs work close to each other, maybe he just doesn’t like the doc. To me there is an obvious agenda in his posting, maybe me but even a 4 year old could see that, new to the forum and only posting against one doctor, seems obvious to me.
The forums are good and help a great deal, but maybe your next step should be to contact both clinics and see what they have to say, and if possible meet patients or at least talk to them on the phone initially, you have nothing to lose. It’s easy to read forums and get confused, and some will do it on purpose, so do your homework and judge for yourself; it is you that will live with the result no one else.
Vic,
First of all, thank you for taking the time to elaborate on this issue, I know you helped me on a previous post regarding dr. bisanga and dr. devoyre. I am not aware and I am not sure if NW5 could have a reason for deflecting attention from one doctor toward others, I really dont know him and to be honest I am very new to this site and to the whole of HT.
However, I really thank him for telling me that there are “more fish in the water” and not to be single mind in the choice of picking the right doctor. I am a bit worried though about what they call “paid cheerleaders” that they support one doctor always, but I hope that there are few in this forum. At any rate after some time it could become obvious who they might be, unfortunately I have not come to that point yet.
AS far your comment Vic, it comes to reinforce my view that both Dr. Hasson and Dr. Bisanga are great, Bisanga been newer but nevertheless very skilled.
Regarding my specific case, even though I have said it before, I am close to a NW5, in my early 30s and after some extensive review of doctors (not in this particular forum), I would like to choose the best doctor that is also relatively close to my home. I do have to disagree when I hear people say go wherever it takes even if its China as long as its the best. First of all, in a subject that deals with cosmetics, perfection is very subjective, as someone posted, I could think someones result is good while that person thinks its crap. Second, having your doctor at least in your continent really makes a diff, despite the advances in technology, videoconferencing and all, knowing that you can grab a flight and within less than 4 hours been there, having similar customs, currency, etc., I feel makes a big difference. I have lived and worked in diff. continents and unfortunately and with the advent of globalization and everything, when you are based in a certain country its much better to have things close to you, especially your doctor.
Having said this, even though Dr. Hasson could be much better and have more consisent results, I personally can compromise a little bit for the comfort of having the doctor in the same continent, I know the majority of people disagree with me, here and in other international forums.
Again Vic, and even though you told me before, in Europe and having just a limited amount of doctors to choose from, would go for Bisanga, Devorye and Heitmann, or would you stick to the first doc.
Thanks man.
» Hi boris,
»
» Let me start by saying I am a fan of Bisanga and Hasson just so there is
» no misunderstanding about what I am saying. I have not had a hair
» transplant with either of them or any doc mentioned on this thread, I’ve
» had a hair transplant in the past in the UK. I’ve had a consultation with
» Hasson and was pleased with the replies and I have met Dr Bisanga for a
» consultation in Brussels and was happy with the time and way he conducted
» himself. I have also emailed, spoken and seen different patients of
» Bisanga, all spoke to have had only good things to say about him as a
» person, their experience and the way they were treated throughout. I was
» also able to see his surgery rooms, they were large, clean and fully
» equipped, no doubt the same as H&W’s are.
»
» My honest opinion is both are very good docs, Dr Hasson has very little to
» prove, always providing great results, Dr Bisanga is newer on the block,
» but has also probably been the most consistant at results, there are many
» to be seen elsewhere on the net. I think they have different styles a
» little, especially hair lines, and that is personal, so you should think
» about that also, but I do not think you can go wrong with either of them.
»
»
» I am sure we can all find cases of patients from all doctors where they
» are not happy; If a doc a one or two problems and a the rest of the are
» good then I think that is not a bad %. I know like Hassons case for
» example Bisnaga offered a refund or add more grafts so the intention with
» both of them seems good. But as none of us know all the story especially
» on forums where there is so much said and anyone can say anything; so be
» careful what is said and what is reality, they can be very different.
»
» I am curious to know why NW5a has this obsessive nature posting only on
» threads where Bisanga maybe recommended, my feeling is when someone keeps
» blabbing on like he does there is more to it than genuine advise and
» concern; you make one post and it is said, why repeat it constantly,
» deflecting away from one specific Doc to so many others, it almost seems a
» little personal or contived. If he was an ex patient with a gripe it would
» be obvious but he is not that, maybe he had his op with Dr Hietmann and
» very happy, both docs work close to each other, maybe he just doesn’t like
» the doc. To me there is an obvious agenda in his posting, maybe me but even
» a 4 year old could see that, new to the forum and only posting against one
» doctor, seems obvious to me.
»
» The forums are good and help a great deal, but maybe your next step should
» be to contact both clinics and see what they have to say, and if possible
» meet patients or at least talk to them on the phone initially, you have
» nothing to lose. It’s easy to read forums and get confused, and some will
» do it on purpose, so do your homework and judge for yourself; it is you
» that will live with the result no one else.
This is very weird, it’s like apples and oranges , one does fue and the other does strip.
» Vic,
» First of all, thank you for taking the time to elaborate on this issue, I
» know you helped me on a previous post regarding dr. bisanga and dr.
» devoyre. I am not aware and I am not sure if NW5 could have a reason for
» deflecting attention from one doctor toward others, I really dont know him
» and to be honest I am very new to this site and to the whole of HT.
» However, I really thank him for telling me that there are “more fish in
» the water” and not to be single mind in the choice of picking the right
» doctor. I am a bit worried though about what they call “paid
» cheerleaders” that they support one doctor always, but I hope that there
» are few in this forum. At any rate after some time it could become
» obvious who they might be, unfortunately I have not come to that point
» yet.
»
» AS far your comment Vic, it comes to reinforce my view that both Dr.
» Hasson and Dr. Bisanga are great, Bisanga been newer but nevertheless very
» skilled.
»
» Regarding my specific case, even though I have said it before, I am close
» to a NW5, in my early 30s and after some extensive review of doctors (not
» in this particular forum), I would like to choose the best doctor that is
» also relatively close to my home. I do have to disagree when I hear
» people say go wherever it takes even if its China as long as its the best.
» First of all, in a subject that deals with cosmetics, perfection is very
» subjective, as someone posted, I could think someones result is good while
» that person thinks its crap. Second, having your doctor at least in your
» continent really makes a diff, despite the advances in technology,
» videoconferencing and all, knowing that you can grab a flight and within
» less than 4 hours been there, having similar customs, currency, etc., I
» feel makes a big difference. I have lived and worked in diff. continents
» and unfortunately and with the advent of globalization and everything,
» when you are based in a certain country its much better to have things
» close to you, especially your doctor.
»
» Having said this, even though Dr. Hasson could be much better and have
» more consisent results, I personally can compromise a little bit for the
» comfort of having the doctor in the same continent, I know the majority of
» people disagree with me, here and in other international forums.
»
» Again Vic, and even though you told me before, in Europe and having just a
» limited amount of doctors to choose from, would go for Bisanga, Devorye and
» Heitmann, or would you stick to the first doc.
»
» Thanks man.
Hi boris,
Two things, out of the three euro docs you have mentioned, I can only see one choice, and that is not to say the others are bad, but just one has consistently produced better results to a world standard. The other two just do not have the pedigree of Dr Bisanga. Dr Devroye I have seen his work and it is steady, I can’t say it was not; Dr Hietmann I have only just started to hear about, so he must really be the new kid on the block, maybe why the cheerleaders are out.
Secondly, like therapy has said, you are comparing different techniques by two good docs, I know Bisanga does good strip work as well, but it is hard to compare techniques. I would contact them and get a feel of what they both have to say, it can be all anonymous and if they are reading this they wouldn’t even realise it’s you. Like you said, you are new to this, take it slow and do not make rushed judgments, there is always another day. Just because you like two docs doesn’t mean you owe them anything, you are not obliged to go with either just because you contact them.