Hair transplant, Dr. Bisanga or Dr. Hasson:

Hair Transplant
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» » Vic,
» » First of all, thank you for taking the time to elaborate on this issue,
» I
» » know you helped me on a previous post regarding dr. bisanga and dr.
» » devoyre. I am not aware and I am not sure if NW5 could have a reason
» for
» » deflecting attention from one doctor toward others, I really dont know
» him
» » and to be honest I am very new to this site and to the whole of HT.
» » However, I really thank him for telling me that there are “more fish in
» » the water” and not to be single mind in the choice of picking the right
» » doctor. I am a bit worried though about what they call “paid
» » cheerleaders” that they support one doctor always, but I hope that
» there
» » are few in this forum. At any rate after some time it could become
» » obvious who they might be, unfortunately I have not come to that point
» » yet.
» »
» » AS far your comment Vic, it comes to reinforce my view that both Dr.
» » Hasson and Dr. Bisanga are great, Bisanga been newer but nevertheless
» very
» » skilled.
» »
» » Regarding my specific case, even though I have said it before, I am
» close
» » to a NW5, in my early 30s and after some extensive review of doctors
» (not
» » in this particular forum), I would like to choose the best doctor that
» is
» » also relatively close to my home. I do have to disagree when I hear
» » people say go wherever it takes even if its China as long as its the
» best.
» » First of all, in a subject that deals with cosmetics, perfection is
» very
» » subjective, as someone posted, I could think someones result is good
» while
» » that person thinks its crap. Second, having your doctor at least in
» your
» » continent really makes a diff, despite the advances in technology,
» » videoconferencing and all, knowing that you can grab a flight and
» within
» » less than 4 hours been there, having similar customs, currency, etc., I
» » feel makes a big difference. I have lived and worked in diff.
» continents
» » and unfortunately and with the advent of globalization and everything,
» » when you are based in a certain country its much better to have things
» » close to you, especially your doctor.
» »
» » Having said this, even though Dr. Hasson could be much better and have
» » more consisent results, I personally can compromise a little bit for
» the
» » comfort of having the doctor in the same continent, I know the majority
» of
» » people disagree with me, here and in other international forums.
» »
» » Again Vic, and even though you told me before, in Europe and having just
» a
» » limited amount of doctors to choose from, would go for Bisanga, Devorye
» and
» » Heitmann, or would you stick to the first doc.
» »
» » Thanks man.
»
» Hi boris,
»
» Two things, out of the three euro docs you have mentioned, I can only see
» one choice, and that is not to say the others are bad, but just one has
» consistently produced better results to a world standard. The other two
» just do not have the pedigree of Dr Bisanga. Dr Devroye I have seen his
» work and it is steady, I can’t say it was not; Dr Hietmann I have only
» just started to hear about, so he must really be the new kid on the block,
» maybe why the cheerleaders are out.
»
» Secondly, like therapy has said, you are comparing different techniques by
» two good docs, I know Bisanga does good strip work as well, but it is hard
» to compare techniques. I would contact them and get a feel of what they
» both have to say, it can be all anonymous and if they are reading this
» they wouldn’t even realise it’s you. Like you said, you are new to this,
» take it slow and do not make rushed judgments, there is always another
» day. Just because you like two docs doesn’t mean you owe them anything,
» you are not obliged to go with either just because you contact them.

Hello,
I thought dr. bisanga does both fue and strip and hasson does only strip.
Besides that and considering I go for a consultation its quite hard to know which one to pick, dont you think? Both will tell me the number of grafts I need, both will tell me pretty much the same things, hair densities, hair lines pretty much similar.
The talk will be very cordial I am sure and the clinics must have top technology. Regarding costs pretty much similar if you consider the exchange rates and costs.
Neither will be able to guarantee a 100% what they promise so I will have to believe in them.

However what I know for a fact is that one is half a world away and the other much nearer. The point is, dont you think that when you are dealing with top doctors, the most important thing is convenience?

I tried to research both dr. bissanga and dr. devoyre and I dont find much bio. I am sure they must both be MDs.

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» Hi boris,
»
» Let me start by saying I am a fan of Bisanga and Hasson just so there is
» no misunderstanding about what I am saying. I have not had a hair
» transplant with either of them or any doc mentioned on this thread, I’ve
» had a hair transplant in the past in the UK. I’ve had a consultation with
» Hasson and was pleased with the replies and I have met Dr Bisanga for a
» consultation in Brussels and was happy with the time and way he conducted
» himself. I have also emailed, spoken and seen different patients of
» Bisanga, all spoke to have had only good things to say about him as a
» person, their experience and the way they were treated throughout. I was
» also able to see his surgery rooms, they were large, clean and fully
» equipped, no doubt the same as H&W’s are.
»
» My honest opinion is both are very good docs, Dr Hasson has very little to
» prove, always providing great results, Dr Bisanga is newer on the block,
» but has also probably been the most consistant at results, there are many
» to be seen elsewhere on the net. I think they have different styles a
» little, especially hair lines, and that is personal, so you should think
» about that also, but I do not think you can go wrong with either of them.
»
»
» I am sure we can all find cases of patients from all doctors where they
» are not happy; If a doc a one or two problems and a the rest of the are
» good then I think that is not a bad %. I know like Hassons case for
» example Bisnaga offered a refund or add more grafts so the intention with
» both of them seems good. But as none of us know all the story especially
» on forums where there is so much said and anyone can say anything; so be
» careful what is said and what is reality, they can be very different.
»
» I am curious to know why NW5a has this obsessive nature posting only on
» threads where Bisanga maybe recommended, my feeling is when someone keeps
» blabbing on like he does there is more to it than genuine advise and
» concern; you make one post and it is said, why repeat it constantly,
» deflecting away from one specific Doc to so many others, it almost seems a
» little personal or contived. If he was an ex patient with a gripe it would
» be obvious but he is not that, maybe he had his op with Dr Hietmann and
» very happy, both docs work close to each other, maybe he just doesn’t like
» the doc. To me there is an obvious agenda in his posting, maybe me but even
» a 4 year old could see that, new to the forum and only posting against one
» doctor, seems obvious to me.
»
» The forums are good and help a great deal, but maybe your next step should
» be to contact both clinics and see what they have to say, and if possible
» meet patients or at least talk to them on the phone initially, you have
» nothing to lose. It’s easy to read forums and get confused, and some will
» do it on purpose, so do your homework and judge for yourself; it is you
» that will live with the result no one else.

Vic,

Read my postings once again, cause i am only a patient, who get his ht 3 month ago, thats all, nothing more :wink: I showed my pics in the other tread, i think u have found them ;-9
I have answered Boris, cause i was in the same situation like him, and i give him my advice. I found in my researches that cases about Bisanga, so i have to show him them. I had my ht with Heitmann and i am very pleased. I wrote to Boris, that i have seen good results of Bisanga, but thats not all, cause the aftercare if there are complaints is an important reason by choosing your doc. Thats the difference between Hasson and Bisanga :wink:

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»
» However what I know for a fact is that one is half a world away and the
» other much nearer. The point is, dont you think that when you are dealing
» with top doctors, the most important thing is convenience?

The major difference is that Europeans are cultured sophisticated and notoriously well endowed. The French invented french cuisine and the English invented everything else. All the yanks gave us was McDonald’s and as far as I recall, syphilis. I think that’s an objective view?:slight_smile:

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» » Hi boris,
» »
» » Let me start by saying I am a fan of Bisanga and Hasson just so there
» is
» » no misunderstanding about what I am saying. I have not had a hair
» » transplant with either of them or any doc mentioned on this thread,
» I’ve
» » had a hair transplant in the past in the UK. I’ve had a consultation
» with
» » Hasson and was pleased with the replies and I have met Dr Bisanga for a
» » consultation in Brussels and was happy with the time and way he
» conducted
» » himself. I have also emailed, spoken and seen different patients of
» » Bisanga, all spoke to have had only good things to say about him as a
» » person, their experience and the way they were treated throughout. I
» was
» » also able to see his surgery rooms, they were large, clean and fully
» » equipped, no doubt the same as H&W’s are.
» »
» » My honest opinion is both are very good docs, Dr Hasson has very little
» to
» » prove, always providing great results, Dr Bisanga is newer on the
» block,
» » but has also probably been the most consistant at results, there are
» many
» » to be seen elsewhere on the net. I think they have different styles a
» » little, especially hair lines, and that is personal, so you should
» think
» » about that also, but I do not think you can go wrong with either of
» them.
» »
» »
» » I am sure we can all find cases of patients from all doctors where they
» » are not happy; If a doc a one or two problems and a the rest of the
» are
» » good then I think that is not a bad %. I know like Hassons case for
» » example Bisnaga offered a refund or add more grafts so the intention
» with
» » both of them seems good. But as none of us know all the story
» especially
» » on forums where there is so much said and anyone can say anything; so
» be
» » careful what is said and what is reality, they can be very different.
» »
» » I am curious to know why NW5a has this obsessive nature posting only on
» » threads where Bisanga maybe recommended, my feeling is when someone
» keeps
» » blabbing on like he does there is more to it than genuine advise and
» » concern; you make one post and it is said, why repeat it constantly,
» » deflecting away from one specific Doc to so many others, it almost seems
» a
» » little personal or contived. If he was an ex patient with a gripe it
» would
» » be obvious but he is not that, maybe he had his op with Dr Hietmann and
» » very happy, both docs work close to each other, maybe he just doesn’t
» like
» » the doc. To me there is an obvious agenda in his posting, maybe me but
» even
» » a 4 year old could see that, new to the forum and only posting against
» one
» » doctor, seems obvious to me.
» »
» » The forums are good and help a great deal, but maybe your next step
» should
» » be to contact both clinics and see what they have to say, and if
» possible
» » meet patients or at least talk to them on the phone initially, you have
» » nothing to lose. It’s easy to read forums and get confused, and some
» will
» » do it on purpose, so do your homework and judge for yourself; it is you
» » that will live with the result no one else.
»
»
» Vic,
»
» Read my postings once again, cause i am only a patient, who get his ht 3
» month ago, thats all, nothing more :wink: I showed my pics in the other
» tread, i think u have found them ;-9
» I have answered Boris, cause i was in the same situation like him, and i
» give him my advice. I found in my researches that cases about Bisanga, so
» i have to show him them. I had my ht with Heitmann and i am very pleased.
» I wrote to Boris, that i have seen good results of Bisanga, but thats not
» all, cause the aftercare if there are complaints is an important reason by
» choosing your doc. Thats the difference between Hasson and Bisanga :wink:

NW5,
Can you post the thread so that I see your pics.
Thanks!!

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Newbie humbly apologizes for participating in the discussion and removes his posts :expressionless:

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I hate to see a good doc maligned with ignorance and self motivation, if you will come as a newbie and make a hit and run comment at least make it less obvious. I assume possibly another Hietmann patient, sad, really sad.

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NW5a,
Thanks for the link but I am not able to see before and after pics, did you put any there? Regarding the comment of hypervion the link you give is the same one as the one from NW5, the german thread that is.

I have seen quite a few cases from Bisanga lately on many forums but little from dr. heitmann, also from dr. devroye I see little quality at least thats what it seems to me. I was browsing in a spanish forum an interesting case from some clinic in Europe in that everyone did not really like the end result, some said it was diffuse, others said that he compromised coverage for density, bla, bla, bla, but it was only the patient that really did like his result, so that comes to reinforce the view that its not how people see you, but rather how you view yourself that is important. This thought process is the reason for this forum on hair loss, if you think about it, when people look at you on the street, do you think they really care if you have more or less hair, do you think they know how you looked 10 years ago, of course they dont, the problem is that you are the only one who does know…

In this case, he was a NW5 guy and I could perhaps relate in some way that if I had the result that he got I would feel like a million dollars, of course, the other members who are very experienced thought it was crap… 2 diff. wlds depending which angle you take.

» I hate to see a good doc maligned with ignorance and self motivation, if
» you will come as a newbie and make a hit and run comment at least make it
» less obvious. I assume possibly another Hietmann patient, sad, really sad.

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» I’m not a patient of anybody yet. I’m researching in the hope of finding a
» reliable clinic in Europe and thought I’d found one until I came across a
» number of dissatisfied patients on various forums, that’s the only sad
» thing about it. I didn’t realize newbies weren’t allowed to answer
» questions presented on the forum - what are they supposed to do :expressionless: ?
»
» » I hate to see a good doc maligned with ignorance and self motivation,
» if
» » you will come as a newbie and make a hit and run comment at least make
» it
» » less obvious. I assume possibly another Hietmann patient, sad, really
» sad.

Well, newbies rarely come on to a board with such assertive comments unless there is a reason, so if i misunderstood your motives i apologise now. But when you generalise to sensationalise you have to be prepared to be called out. Like for example, “a number of dissatisfied patients on various forums” I assume you refer to the german thread and the one here. Like I said if that is it on any doctor performing good work, 2 cases amongst so many then that can’t be bad. Then there is the two threads, the one here a child can see that it was fabricated for another reason, it is so obvious that the thread had nothing to do with anything, to the point a clinic got involved he used to work for, so if you have not, and if you have no agenda read between the lines,that is called research. I also read the german thread, and that is a joke, the clinic is not allowed to reply on the forum to the patient and the patient can say whatever he likes, so much for good forums and freedom of speech. No idea if you are german, but if you are no wonder you came here where at least answers can be given. The only thing that was interesting to read on there was German advisors get about 30% commission of the operation, well no wonder clinics are not allowed to talk freely on there, I think that is disgusting.

I have seen poor work by many great and well respected doctors, I have heard stories of problems with patient care with many well respected doctors; and with respect to those who post them, I give credence to about 30% of them, because unless you are as naive as you try to make out the only thing that is real are how you feel about a doc without prejudice, whoever it is.

So, with all due respect, I find your arguments as a newbie lame. This is funny really because I generally browse and comment little but when I smell something less than holy it has to be commented on.

boris,

I wish you all the luck in the world finding the right man for you, I have been there and made a mistake so it is never easy, especially when you feel you are ready to do something. I am sure Dr’s Hasson and Bisanga will both look after you very well. The decision can only really be yours at the end of the day, and it is hard. From experience I would suggest you try to at least talk to them, and if possible meet them, personal contact can tell you alot and if you are happy with both as doctors it may come down to personalities.

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Thank you Vic. The most important thing is to be in the best hands possible, the end result is hard to predict, but one has better chances with experienced docs. I give up with dr. heitmann, its just impossible to see anything from him, I insist, that from the thread you give me NW5, I dont see a before and after pic, so I will take your word that it looks good, and hope the best for you.

I have recently been exploring the possibility of dr. cole and dr. mwuamba who apparently both do surgery in brusels, I wonder why brusels and not another city, at any rate, does anyone have a bio on dr. cole and dr. mwuamba? Was dr. bisanga trained with dr. cole? Vic, is dr. Cole a top doc as well?

Thank you as always. :wink:

» boris,
»
» I wish you all the luckn the world finding the right man for you, I have
» been there and made a mistake so it is never easy, especially when you feel
» you are ready to do something. I am sure Dr’s Hasson and Bisanga will both
» look after you very well. The decision can only really be yours at the end
» of the day, and it is hard. From experience I would suggest you try to at
» least talk to them, and if possible meet them, personal contact can tell
» you alot and if you are happy with both as doctors it may come down to
» personalities.

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» Thank you Vic. The most important thing is to be in the best hands
» possible, the end result is hard to predict, but one has better chances
» with experienced docs. I give up with dr. heitmann, its just impossible
» to see anything from him, I insist, that from the thread you give me NW5,
» I dont see a before and after pic, so I will take your word that it looks
» good, and hope the best for you.
»
» I have recently been exploring the possibility of dr. cole and dr. mwuamba
» who apparently both do surgery in brusels, I wonder why brusels and not
» another city, at any rate, does anyone have a bio on dr. cole and dr.
» mwuamba? Was dr. bisanga trained with dr. cole? Vic, is dr. Cole a top
» doc as well?
»
» Thank you as always. :wink:
»

I think it is common knowledge that Bisanga worked with Cole for a while, and I think Dr Rose also. I think Dr Cole’s hair lines are very natural and some of the best, maybe a little conservative for some but that is subjective at the end of the day. Not sure how much strip work he does now because you only really see FIT/FUE pictures, and there is always talk about punch sizes with him. Dr Mwamba everyone speaks well of, but a little like the others earlier you mentioned it is hard to find many cases of his, considering he has been around for a while.

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As far as hairlines are concerned, Dr. Rose also worked with Dr. Shapiro, who is world renowned for his natural hairlines. I consider Dr. Rose to have one of the best naturalness I have seen.

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» As far as hairlines are concerned, Dr. Rose also worked with Dr. Shapiro,
» who is world renowned for his natural hairlines. I consider Dr. Rose to
» have one of the best naturalness I have seen.

I haven’t see many cases of hairline work of Bisanga on the net? Is his approach like Cole’s?

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» NW5a,
» Thanks for the link but I am not able to see before and after pics, did
» you put any there? Regarding the comment of hypervion the link you give
» is the same one as the one from NW5, the german thread that is.
»
» I have seen quite a few cases from Bisanga lately on many forums but
» little from dr. heitmann, also from dr. devroye I see little quality at
» least thats what it seems to me. I was browsing in a spanish forum an
» interesting case from some clinic in Europe in that everyone did not
» really like the end result, some said it was diffuse, others said that he
» compromised coverage for density, bla, bla, bla, but it was only the
» patient that really did like his result, so that comes to reinforce the
» view that its not how people see you, but rather how you view yourself
» that is important. This thought process is the reason for this forum on
» hair loss, if you think about it, when people look at you on the street,
» do you think they really care if you have more or less hair, do you think
» they know how you looked 10 years ago, of course they dont, the problem is
» that you are the only one who does know…
»
» In this case, he was a NW5 guy and I could perhaps relate in some way that
» if I had the result that he got I would feel like a million dollars, of
» course, the other members who are very experienced thought it was crap…
» 2 diff. wlds depending which angle you take.
»
»
»
»
» » I hate to see a good doc maligned with ignorance and self motivation,
» if
» » you will come as a newbie and make a hit and run comment at least make
» it
» » less obvious. I assume possibly another Hietmann patient, sad, really
» sad.

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» I have recently been exploring the possibility of dr. cole and dr. mwuamba
» who apparently both do surgery in brusels, I wonder why brusels and not
» another city, at any rate, does anyone have a bio on dr. cole and dr.
» mwuamba? Was dr. bisanga trained with dr. cole? Vic, is dr. Cole a top
» doc as well?
»

Dr.cole works in Atlanta and Dr. Mwamba in Brussels.

Dr. Bisanga worked for Dr. Cole for 3 years in that period of time he was training only with STRIP procedures. Dr. Bisanga did not learned FUE from Dr. Cole.

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I see. I am quite new in this forum, but, fithair I assume that you work for dr cole, no? Cheers

» » I have recently been exploring the possibility of dr. cole and dr.
» mwuamba
» » who apparently both do surgery in brusels, I wonder why brusels and not
» » another city, at any rate, does anyone have a bio on dr. cole and dr.
» » mwuamba? Was dr. bisanga trained with dr. cole? Vic, is dr. Cole a
» top
» » doc as well?
» »
»
» Dr.cole works in Atlanta and Dr. Mwamba in Brussels. You can check their
» biography:
»
» Dr. Bisanga worked for Dr. Cole for 3 years in that period of time he was
» training only with STRIP procedures. Dr. Bisanga did not learned FUE from
» Dr. Cole.
»
» You can check their work in our website. We have an Spanish version as
» well.:wink:

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Dr. Bisanga does excellent FUE from which he learned on his own.

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» I see. I am quite new in this forum, but, fithair I assume that you work
» for dr cole, no? Cheers
»
I do:-D You can find information about Dr. Cole and Dr. Mwamba in the Spanish forums too :wink:

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» Dr. Bisanga does excellent FUE from which he learned on his own.

Thank you to both Hairtech and Fithair.