Hair loss and diet

[HanginInThere]

oh so the drug company has a patent on their theory? LOL

i did not state that 36mg of animal protein
i stated 30 gms…anyone with any brains can see that 30 gms is a reasonable amount

if you dont think red meat is bad for your hair, its your choice…you guys are free to ignore my theory, and eat a big fat juicy steak every day, …

[HanginInThere]

I prefer the words of nutrionists myself, over your choice…what does a trichologist know about nutrition? not much

» Again, you will excuse me if I take the word of a trichologist over yours.

[Pete2]

» Hangin,
» It is important that when you provide advice (36 mg versus 36 gm) as you
» stated in your original post that you make sure you provide the
» appropriate intake amounts . There are some people that may actually
» follow your advice - I’m not sure who they or or why but their may be some
» . I think that your words would be to call other people moron’s if they
» made such a comment as you did . As a pharmacist I can emphasize the fact
» there is a huge difference between 1mg and 1 gm . As I have told you many
» times over and over -get your facts straight .
»
» I have written TPN parenteral nutrition orders on a daily basis at our
» medical center pharmacy over the last 9 years . Patients under higher
» stress loads require more protein/ amino acid intake based on muscle cell
» physiology . There is not a set across the board number so I’m not sure
» exactly where you are getting a specific number of 36 gm .Typical daily
» intake is more specifically based on an individuals body weight stated
» before ranging from 0.5- 1gm/kg/day. For a very active athlete or body
» builder they can require upwards of 1 gm/kg /day for maximum muscle
» performance /building so for you to say its too much is false. For
» patients in an ICU setting under high stress loads (ventilator
» settings,corticosteroid intake/trauma etc) they too often require higher
» amino acid/protein intake in excess of 36 gm per day . Again the amounts
» based on individual body weight specific to a patient.

Yes in certain circumstances more Protein is required ie chronic illneses and its intake is largely dependent on your lifestyle.

»
»
» Just for my own sake and pharmacy practice do you have the article
» available stating that no more than 36 gm/day is the optimal intake for
» all individuals . ? I would find this to be very helpful in the future .
»
» Also I am not exactly sure why you keep referring to the DHT effect on
» follicle miniaturization as YOUR theory. If that is the case I think you
» may have a good lawsuit on your hands because Merck (manufacturer of
» Propecia) stole it from you years ago .
»
» You asked in another post why some of us read your post. I personally
» dont read them to try and gain any insight . I dont feel like there is
» any input you could make that can provide any meaningful benefit for
» others. I read your post to see where you need to be corrected such as
» this one stating 36 mg per day is optimal daily intake for protein.
»
»
» Hangin- seriously - I have asked you over and over countless times to
» post pictures of yourself (not your face just your scalp) .We all know
» that you will never pursue transplants because as you put it transplants
» are only for those of us moron’s stupid enough to have lost our hair to
» begin with (from our poor nutritional intake ).If I remember you were
» referring to myself and Youngman (unfortunately I think Hairsite deleted
» your post) You always seem to fade away from the request of posting pics
» yet you constantly come onto the forum preaching what you feel that you
» know and others need to understand . A good leader such as yourself
» should provide an example for us to follow. If your nutritional program
» has made such a difference let us see what a proper nutritional program
» can provide when put into place .
»
» Hangin just as you can post all of your BS about red meat being bad others
» can post articles stating its benefit so please stop with your campaign to
» save the world of future hair loss . The internet is full of articles on
» both sides so give it a break .
»
» http://thestar.com.my/health/story.asp?file=/2007/5/9/health/20070509170215&sec=health
»
»
» By the way - Does A1 Steak Sauce on my steak /hamburger have any additive
» effect on follicle miniaturization? If it does I think I found the problem
» and why I began losing my hair so early at 17 y/o. I love the stuff.

Your Protein intake is largely dependent on ones lifestlyle so it can differ from one person to another. Its important to rememeber that there is alot more going with hairloss than just DHT such as circulation issues. Ive actually been mentioning them for that last few YEARS!

Regards
Pete

[Pete2]

» » » Alright, alright, its OK. Stress can cause hair loss too.
» » »
» »
» » Do you suffer from hairloss?
» »
» » I dont see many women on these forums.
» »
» » Regards
» » Pete
»
» Hair loss in women is difficult to treat. It can be due to so many
» things. Sometimes, the doctors are at a loss because there is not enough
» research available.
»
» My family has bad genetics and endocrine problems. I have better genetics
» because I started out with thicker hair (thanks, dad), but I did run into
» endocrine problems. My hair was falling out by the handful for a while,
» but we were able to catch it early. I don’t think I will get as thin my
» mom, grand mother, aunts, etc.
»
» Currently, I have nice, thick hair, and the loss has stopped. But, if I
» have a change in my diet, sleep, or stress levels, my hair falls out
» again.

Have you read the work of Dr. Lee and Progesterone?

Regards
Pete

[MPB]

» one website big deal I can find you 100 that say the opposite
» hell I could go write a website, does that make it true?
»
» here is a website i found in two seconds that says red mean is bad for
» your hair
» http://ezinearticles.com/?Hair-Loss---The-Seven-Major-Causes---Part-1&id=541284
»
» Excessive yang food such as red meat, salt, hard cheeses, and eggs can
» cause a particular pattern of hair loss as can excessive consumption of
» yin food such as soft drinks, fruit juices, alcohol and medications.
»
»

What? you can’t even have alcohol? No wonder you’re so uptight dude. Man if I couldn’t have my “after work” Martini, I’d rather be bald anyway.

[HanginInThere]

who said i follow that website i just posted it to show you how easy it is to find a dissenting opinion from the bs you posted

i dont drink though,

» » one website big deal I can find you 100 that say the opposite
» » hell I could go write a website, does that make it true?
» »
» » here is a website i found in two seconds that says red mean is bad for
» » your hair
» »
» http://ezinearticles.com/?Hair-Loss---The-Seven-Major-Causes---Part-1&id=541284
» »
» » Excessive yang food such as red meat, salt, hard cheeses, and eggs
» can
» » cause a particular pattern of hair loss as can excessive consumption of
» » yin food such as soft drinks, fruit juices, alcohol and medications.
» »
» »
»
»
» What? you can’t even have alcohol? No wonder your so uptight dude. Man if
» I couldn’t have my “after work” Martini, I’d rather be bald anyway.

[MPB]

» who said i follow that website i just posted it to show you how easy it is
» to find a dissenting opinion from the bs you posted
»
» i dont drink though,
»
»
» » » one website big deal I can find you 100 that say the opposite
» » » hell I could go write a website, does that make it true?
» » »
» » » here is a website i found in two seconds that says red mean is bad
» for
» » » your hair
» » »
» »
» http://ezinearticles.com/?Hair-Loss---The-Seven-Major-Causes---Part-1&id=541284
» » »
» » » Excessive yang food such as red meat, salt, hard cheeses, and eggs
» » can
» » » cause a particular pattern of hair loss as can excessive consumption
» of
» » » yin food such as soft drinks, fruit juices, alcohol and medications.
» » »
» » »
» »
Yeh- I guess that’s the point. There are thousands of websites out there that will give you conflicting view points but yours seems to be gospel.

[HanginInThere]

» » who said i follow that website i just posted it to show you how easy it
» is
» » to find a dissenting opinion from the bs you posted
» »
» » i dont drink though,
» »
» »
» » » » one website big deal I can find you 100 that say the opposite
» » » » hell I could go write a website, does that make it true?
» » » »
» » » » here is a website i found in two seconds that says red mean is bad
» » for
» » » » your hair
» » » »
» » »
» »
» http://ezinearticles.com/?Hair-Loss---The-Seven-Major-Causes---Part-1&id=541284
» » » »
» » » » Excessive yang food such as red meat, salt, hard cheeses, and
» eggs
» » » can
» » » » cause a particular pattern of hair loss as can excessive
» consumption
» » of
» » » » yin food such as soft drinks, fruit juices, alcohol and
» medications.
» » » »
» » » »
» » »
» Yeh- I guess that’s the point. There are thousands of websites out there
» that will give you conflicting view points but yours seems to be gospel.

ok you go find 10 websites that say eating red meat is good for your hair,and when you find out that the website is sponsored by the american cattlemens association, then let us know

[Heliboy]

Just like it took me 2 seconds to find and post a link showing a dissenting opinion of the BS you bring . It works both ways.

» who said i follow that website i just posted it to show you how easy it is
» to find a dissenting opinion from the bs you posted
»
» i dont drink though,
»
»
» » » one website big deal I can find you 100 that say the opposite
» » » hell I could go write a website, does that make it true?
» » »
» » » here is a website i found in two seconds that says red mean is bad
» for
» » » your hair
» » »
» »
» http://ezinearticles.com/?Hair-Loss---The-Seven-Major-Causes---Part-1&id=541284
» » »
» » » Excessive yang food such as red meat, salt, hard cheeses, and eggs
» » can
» » » cause a particular pattern of hair loss as can excessive consumption
» of
» » » yin food such as soft drinks, fruit juices, alcohol and medications.
» » »
» » »
» »
» »
» » What? you can’t even have alcohol? No wonder your so uptight dude. Man
» if
» » I couldn’t have my “after work” Martini, I’d rather be bald anyway.

[HanginInThere]

yes the cattlemens assoc websites are spread far and wide…RED MEAT IS GOOD FOR YOU…LOL

National Cattlemen's Beef Association

» Just like it took me 2 seconds to find and post a link showing a
» dissenting opinion of the BS you bring . It works both ways.
»
» » who said i follow that website i just posted it to show you how easy it
» is
» » to find a dissenting opinion from the bs you posted
» »
» » i dont drink though,
» »
» »
» » » » one website big deal I can find you 100 that say the opposite
» » » » hell I could go write a website, does that make it true?
» » » »
» » » » here is a website i found in two seconds that says red mean is bad
» » for
» » » » your hair
» » » »
» » »
» »
» http://ezinearticles.com/?Hair-Loss---The-Seven-Major-Causes---Part-1&id=541284
» » » »
» » » » Excessive yang food such as red meat, salt, hard cheeses, and
» eggs
» » » can
» » » » cause a particular pattern of hair loss as can excessive
» consumption
» » of
» » » » yin food such as soft drinks, fruit juices, alcohol and
» medications.
» » » »
» » » »
» » »
» » »
» » » What? you can’t even have alcohol? No wonder your so uptight dude.
» Man
» » if
» » » I couldn’t have my “after work” Martini, I’d rather be bald anyway.

[anephric]

To be honest, I would also take the advice of a trichologist over someone with a “personal anecdote” of themselves.

The article posted by “The Natural” makes a lot of sense to me.

[HanginInThere]

CHEERS those of you who think red meat is good for your hair, go eat a 1lb steak every day, and watch your hair wash down the drain

experiment for yourself, thats what I did

» To be honest, I would also take the advice of a trichologist over someone
» with a “personal anecdote” of themselves.
»
» The article posted by “The Natural” makes a lot of sense to me.