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#1

I could probably find 100 websites saying the same thing about what foods to avoid for preventing hair loss, Almost every one of them says ANIMAL PROTEIN
but then Jtelcom says Im nuts, I guess all the other websites just made it up then. No wait, they just magically all came to the same conclusion that excess animal protein, ie milk meat eggs dairy etc is bad for your hair. I know its a conspiracy against the animal protein industry, a right wing conspiracy

http://mens-health.health-cares.net/hair-loss-remedies.php

http://www.hair-loss-doctor.com/Treatment/HairLossandDiet.htm

http://www.alternativedr.com/hair_loss.htm

http://www.fitness-health.co.uk/hair-loss.htm

http://www.holisticonline.com/Remedies/Hair/hair_loss-diet.htm

http://www.holisticonline.com/remedies/hair/hair_loss-oriental-med.htm

http://www.newstarget.com/012893.html

http://hairrestorationproduct.co.uk/

…quote from this source

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I posted that EXCESS animal protein, is bad for the hair,ie drinking tons of milk, lots of red meat, well any animal protein, in excess, cannot be excreted by the body, and is creates uric acid in the blood, a toxin that, in excess amounts, causes the hair to rain like a waterfall

This is diametrically opposed to the moron who posted that eating red meat is good for your hair, thats total hogwash,its exactly the opposite

For those of you who say, Diet has no effect on hair loss. Excuse me? Are you serious? There was once a study done on rats to determnine the effect of Biotin on hair growth. All the Biotin was taken out of the rats diet. What happened? The rats went Bald. Now, if Rats, who never lose their hair, can GO BALD from the severe deficiency of ONE nutrient in their diet, how can any sane person sit there and say that diet has no effect on hair loss.

Your hair skin and nails are the LAST in line for nutrients in the body, The body really does not consider them a priority, and will nourish the brain, and internal organs before anything else. and then and only then. if there is any nutrients left over, it will give them to your hair. Thus, if you are at all deficient in any nutrient, your hair will almost certainly get none of that nutrient.

If you are that ignorant that you believe nutrition has no effect on hair loss, you deserve to go bald, truthfully.

I have always stated if you are losing tons of hair, check your diet\

avoid sugary foods
excess ANIMAL PROTEIN
excess SODIUM

Now I disagree with Hogan , who says completely avoid sugar, and high fructose corn syrup fruit etc,

all of these are mostly about EXCESS. In my experience its the same with anything, moderation is the key, its ok to have dessert, just dont eat the whole cake, Ok to eat ANIMAL PROTEIN, just the amount should not exceed about 30gms per day, and less than that is better.

Want to see your hair rain like a waterfall in the sink? Try consuming about 100gm of animal protein per day, like a gallon of milk or somethimg, you would be shocked at the amount of hairloss you will see

whoever says excess animal protein doesnt cause hair loss, is misinformed IT CERTAINLY DOES

Sodium will KILL YOUR HAIR in excess amounts, it accumulates in the tissues, around the follicles…and makes your hair rain like a waterfall,

You also need to supplement your diet, with, in my experience a super hair vitamin and a chelated multi mineral. You need 2000mcg of Timed Release Biotin, Biotin is critical for protein synthesis and is the most important of all B vitamins for healthy hair.

Excess Sugar or white flour products, robs the body of B vitamins during digestion , depriving the hair of critical nutrients needed in the digestive process in order to give the hair proper nutrition. B vitamins are perhaps the most important of all , for hair health

However, a good super hair vitamin, such as Maxi Hair or Ultra Hair, can mitigate this sugar danger, …and give the body some of the extra Bs that the sugar took away…however if you saturate the blood with sugar, the Vitamins are pretty much useless

anyone who disagrees feel free to post your sources that say excess animal protein sugar and sodium dont make your hair looks like crap…

The key to this whole deal, is find something that you can live with. Few board members can stomach NO SUGAR in their diet, its so difficult to patrol your foods like that. Or no fruit is so hard too, or no meat, its almost impossible to eat like that. Jusr remember to try to eat healthy.


#2

Diet has nothing to do with MPB.If it’s in your genes you will lose your hair regardless of what you eat.


#3

» I could probably find 100 websites saying the same thing about what foods
» to avoid for preventing hair loss, Almost every one of them says ANIMAL
» PROTEIN
» but then Jtelcom says Im nuts, I guess all the other websites just made it
» up then. No wait, they just magically all came to the same conclusion that
» excess animal protein, ie milk meat eggs dairy etc is bad for your hair. I
» know its a conspiracy against the animal protein industry, a right wing
» conspiracy
»
» http://mens-health.health-cares.net/hair-loss-remedies.php
»
» http://www.hair-loss-doctor.com/Treatment/HairLossandDiet.htm
»
» http://www.alternativedr.com/hair_loss.htm
»
» http://www.fitness-health.co.uk/hair-loss.htm
»
» http://www.holisticonline.com/Remedies/Hair/hair_loss-diet.htm
»
» http://www.holisticonline.com/remedies/hair/hair_loss-oriental-med.htm
»
» http://www.newstarget.com/012893.html
»
» http://hairrestorationproduct.co.uk/
»
» …quote from this source
»
»
» “
» Good intake of vegetables can improve your vitamin C score leading to
» higher iron absorption. Vitamin E is important for healthy hair growth.
» Eat avocados, nuts, seeds, and olive oil on a regular basis. If thyroid
» dysfunction is the cause of baldness vitamin A and iodine food can help
» prevent baldness. Eat vegetables such as carrots or spinach in unrefined,
» cold-pressed seed oils such as flax, walnut or pumpkin seed and sea salt.
» Take turnips, cabbage, mustard, soy beans, peanuts, pine nuts and millet
» if there is a deficiency of iodine. Dried fruits, green & leafy
» vegetables, cherry juice are good sources. Diet should avoid these
» - cold foods & drinks, sugary foods, fatty foods, animal protein,
» fruit, especially citrus, tomatoes, tofu, millet, salt and dairy
» products.”
»
» I posted that EXCESS animal protein, is bad for the
» hair,ie drinking tons of milk, lots of red meat, well any animal
» protein, in excess, cannot be excreted by the body, and is creates uric
» acid in the blood, a toxin that, in excess amounts, causes the hair to
» rain like a waterfall
»
»
»
» I have always stated on the natural board, if you are losing tons of hair,
» check your diet\
»
» avoid sugary foods
» excess ANIMAL PROTEIN
» excess SODIUM
»
» Sodium will KILL YOUR HAIR in excess amounts, it accumulates
» in the tissues, around the follicles…and makes your hair rain like
» a waterfall,
»
» but of course all you guys who have lost most of your hair to the point of
» getting transplants…and who obviously could use
» a little help in the preventing hair loss department
»
» you know than we do at the natural board, thats why most of your hair has
» fallen out right?


#4

yes keep believing that, thats why ur on the transplant board, because ur an expert in hair loss prevention

guys on the transplant board are pros at keeping their hair, right?

diabetes is in your genes also, however it is HUGELY affected, by your diet

tendency to be susceptible to certain types of cancer is definitely hereditary, however cancer is HUGELY affected by diet,

lots of ignorant guys on this board


#5

» yes keep believing that, thats why ur on the transplant board, because ur
» an expert in hair loss prevention
»
» guys on the transplant board are pros at keeping their hair, right?
»
»
» diabetes is in your genes also, however it is HUGELY affected, by your
» diet
»
» tendency to be susceptible to certain types of cancer is definitely
» hereditary, however cancer is HUGELY affected by diet,
»
» lots of ignorant guys on this board

Then what the hell are you doing here slick? No offense but your diet may just slow down the inevitable. You’re DHT prone genes are your ultimate fate. You don’t seem to grasp that right now but reply back when you hit 40. Then we’ll talk. Everyone has a different progression of MPB, so dont lump everyone that is losing their hair into your “one size fits all” mold.


#6

hey moron i hit 40 a long time ago, unlike the 20 something desperados I have had 25 plus years of experience saving my hair, I started thinning in 1978…so I have gone through all the ups and downs and fallouts and regrowths that you guys are going to experience

the fact that you are getting transplants without getting your hair loss under control to me thats nuts…a waste of money
if you cannot stabilize your loss for at least 5 yrs you are just flushing the money down the toilet

my hair looks better now than it did 15 yrs ago with NO TRANSPLANTHow many of you guys can say the same? I would bet not many…

the transplant board are perhaps some of the most misinformed misguided guys on the hairsite, especially regarding saving what they have

of course if you were more open minded about saving your hair, you might have been able to have saved it before it all fell out and you needed a transplant…so I dont expect you guys to listen. Perhaps some are open minded though, enough to listen to the voice of experience.

» » yes keep believing that, thats why ur on the transplant board, because
» ur
» » an expert in hair loss prevention
» »
» » guys on the transplant board are pros at keeping their hair, right?
» »
» »
» » diabetes is in your genes also, however it is HUGELY affected, by your
» » diet
» »
» » tendency to be susceptible to certain types of cancer is definitely
» » hereditary, however cancer is HUGELY affected by diet,
» »
» » lots of ignorant guys on this board
»
»
» Then what the hell are you doing here slick? No offense but your diet may
» just slow down the inevitable. You’re DHT prone genes are your ultimate
» fate. You don’t seem to grasp that right now but reply back when you hit
» 40. Then we’ll talk. Everyone has a different progression of MPB, so dont
» lump everyone that is losing their hair into your “one size fits all”
» mold.


#7

» the fact that you are getting transplants without getting your hair loss
» under control to me thats nuts…»
I couldn’t agree more Hangin.
Hair transplant businesses are laughing all the way to the bank.
Other hair loss forums would ban you for common sense posts like that because they have paying advertisers that would demand it.

» of course if you were more open minded about saving your hair, you might
» have been able to have saved it before it all fell out and you needed a
» transplant…
Uh oh…now you’re really asking for trouble.


#8

Like I said before, if anyone is that ignorant and closed minded to state that nutrition has nothing to do with hair loss, they deserve to go bald

sounds harsh, but, thats the way i see it

when i first started thinning i immediately started reading everthing i could and there was no internet in the late 70s…first thing i found was nutrition nutrition nutrition

of course the docs wont tell you that, most know about as much about nutrition as your plumber

» » the fact that you are getting transplants without getting your hair loss
» » under control to me thats nuts…»
» I couldn’t agree more Hangin.
» Hair transplant businesses are laughing all the way to the bank.
» Other hair loss forums would ban you for common sense posts like that
» because they have paying advertisers that would demand it.
»
» » of course if you were more open minded about saving your hair, you
» might
» » have been able to have saved it before it all fell out and you needed a
» » transplant…
» Uh oh…now you’re really asking for trouble.


#9

Wow, you are seriously lacking in tact. :wink:

But…I have to half-way agree with you.

Yes, genes are sometimes impossible to control, but it is completely in your power to make sure that your body is in the best shape possible. Diet and exercise slows the disease process and allows your body to produce healthier hair. It also improves your mood and state of mind.

But, to say that diet will stop hairloss is going overboard. I’ve seen men and women in tip-top shape still losing their hair.

I would not cut out red meat, eggs, etc. becuase the body needs protein and fat for the hair. It is just important to eat them in moderation.


#10

I did not say diet will stop hair loss, I did not say stop eating red meat, or never eat it, i said …no more than 30mg of animal protein per day. or else u risk excess fallout

I never said diet will stop hairloss, I said bad diet accelerates it, exacerbates it.

Diet alone, no will not control hair loss. but its part of the big picture.
Diet combines with other treatments for hairloss prevention to enhance them. You can put any topical you want on your head, try any drug any natural supplement really and if you have a crappy diet, you will sabotage your results.

Mine stopped falling out for good when i added the DHT blockers, but without my supplements, and a decent diet …mine would still be balding

I dont care what successful regimen you are on, if you put a toxin in your blood, uric acid, by overindulging in animal protein,yoour body could not care less what program you are on, all it knows it there is uric acid in the blood and your hair will suffer.

try to keep the body and diet clean and the toxins out of your system


#11

» I did not say diet will stop hair loss, I did not say stop eating red meat,
» or never eat it, i said …no more than 30mg of animal protein per
» day. or else u risk excess fallout
»
» I never said diet will stop hairloss, I said bad diet accelerates it,
» exacerbates it.
»
» Diet alone, no will not control hair loss. but its part of the big
» picture. Mine stopped when i added the DHT blockers, but without my
» supplements,
» mine would still be balding. and I try to watch my diet

my theory is when the dht accumulates in the follicles it strangles the blood supply to the follicles, and the nutrients to the follicles slow down even more making diet even more important than it was before

guys who say my friend eats junk food and he has a full head of hair. So what, He doesnt have a male pattern balding gene caking DHT around his follicles like you do either


#12

Alright, alright, its OK. Stress can cause hair loss too.

Have you wished your mom a happy mother’s day?


#13

» my theory is when the dht accumulates in the follicles it strangles the
» blood supply to the follicles, and the nutrients to the follicles slow
» down even more making diet even more important than it was before

Do you have any research or article to back this up? Not becuase I don’t believe you, but because I would like to read it.


#14

im not a scientific study person, anything I post though, is based on personal experience

I can tell you that before I added DHT blockers, I only had diet and vitamins to try to save my hair. so my fallout was VERY SENSITIVE to diet at that time. One day of too much sugar, boom next day my hair fell out in gobs. Same thing with red meat, animal protein, or Sodium, So this was trial and error, and it exactly mirrored the posts on the nutrition forums about what is bad diet wise for your hair.

It is well documented that the blood vessels miniaturize as DHT accumulation becomes more prevalent and it only makes sense that a small blood vessel can only bring less nutrients than before. This is why, niacin, a vaso dilator, is sometimes successful in early stages of MPB it enlarges these miniaturized vessels. This works for a while, but eventually if the DHT problem is not addressed the DHT accumulation will overcome any positive benefits of diet or supplments, this is what happened to me. Once i added the DHT blockers my hair
has never regresssed in 8 yrs.
Some guys , unfortunately do not respond to them. Im lucky I guess

» » my theory is when the dht accumulates in the follicles it strangles the
» » blood supply to the follicles, and the nutrients to the follicles slow
» » down even more making diet even more important than it was before
»
» Do you have any research or article to back this up? Not becuase I don’t
» believe you, but because I would like to read it.


#15

stress robs the B Vitamins in the digestive process, this is why B supps are so important for hair loss…no got to call mom now thanks for the reminder

» Alright, alright, its OK. Stress can cause hair loss too.
»
» Have you wished your mom a happy mother’s day?


#16

» Alright, alright, its OK. Stress can cause hair loss too.
»

Do you suffer from hairloss?

I dont see many women on these forums.

Regards
Pete


#17

» Wow, you are seriously lacking in tact. :wink:
»
» But…I have to half-way agree with you.
»
» Yes, genes are sometimes impossible to control, but it is completely in
» your power to make sure that your body is in the best shape possible.
» Diet and exercise slows the disease process and allows your body to
» produce healthier hair. It also improves your mood and state of mind.
»
» But, to say that diet will stop hairloss is going overboard. I’ve seen
» men and women in tip-top shape still losing their hair.
»
» I would not cut out red meat, eggs, etc. becuase the body needs protein
» and fat for the hair. It is just important to eat them in moderation.

Yep - moderation is the key.

These all upregulate hairloss:

1)Insulin
2)Cholesterol
3)Toxins
4)Stress
5)Diet

Regards
Pete


#18

Hangin,
I want to say that I am inspired with your dedication on the education of nutrition with male pattern baldness.

I am confused though about one of your pieces of advise regarding daily intake of protein. You stated that 30mg of animal protein should not be exceeded. Did you mean 30gm ? There is a big difference between a mg and a gm.
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry.php?id=1438

I’ve always heard that the average daily intake should be in the range of
0.5 gm/kg - 1gm/kg per day depending on your activity level.

Your comments are appreciated.

17,000 Actively Growing BHT by Dr Umar
www.myhairtransformation.com


#19

» Wow, you are seriously lacking in tact. :wink:
»
» But…I have to half-way agree with you.
»
» Yes, genes are sometimes impossible to control, but it is completely in
» your power to make sure that your body is in the best shape possible.
» Diet and exercise slows the disease process and allows your body to
» produce healthier hair. It also improves your mood and state of mind.
»
» But, to say that diet will stop hairloss is going overboard. I’ve seen
» men and women in tip-top shape still losing their hair.
»
» I would not cut out red meat, eggs, etc. becuase the body needs protein
» and fat for the hair. It is just important to eat them in moderation.

I agree that body needs protein for health but only in moderation.


#20

» Hangin,
» I want to say that I am inspired with your dedication on the education of
» nutrition with male pattern baldness.
»
» I am confused though about one of your pieces of advise regarding daily
» intake of protein. You stated that 30mg of animal protein should not be
» exceeded. Did you mean 30gm ? There is a big difference between a mg and a
» gm.
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry.php?id=1438
»
» I’ve always heard that the average daily intake should be in the range of
»
» 0.5 gm/kg - 1gm/kg per day depending on your activity level.
»
» Your comments are appreciated.
»
» 17,000 Actively Growing BHT by Dr Umar
» www.myhairtransformation.com

Youll find Whey Protein is perhaps the best ways to get full spectrum aminos into your system.

Regards
Pete