» Right, so far so good. I suggest you don’t post again until something new
» happens. Because you might think that your posts are unread if weeks pass
» by without anything dramatic occurring. Reports about your libido will be
» intersting around the 3 month mark. That 's when my problems begun when I
» took high dose finasteride. As to the itching, dut is known to suppress
» both excess facial and scalp sebum… to the point skin becomes dry. Watch
» it.
Thanks for the feedback. Good point. I’ll follow it.
Regarding your experience, were you one who said Dut caused breast growth? How long had you been taking this when it happened? Did you ever try topical Dut vs. taking it orally?
» » Right, so far so good. I suggest you don’t post again until something
» new
» » happens. Because you might think that your posts are unread if weeks
» pass
» » by without anything dramatic occurring. Reports about your libido will
» be
» » intersting around the 3 month mark. That 's when my problems begun when
» I
» » took high dose finasteride. As to the itching, dut is known to suppress
» » both excess facial and scalp sebum… to the point skin becomes dry.
» Watch
» » it.
»
» Thanks for the feedback. Good point. I’ll follow it.
»
» Regarding your experience, were you one who said Dut caused breast growth?
» How long had you been taking this when it happened? Did you ever try
» topical Dut vs. taking it orally?
»
» Thanks in advance for your responses.
Never mind. I found your post about it. Thanks again.
» I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which I am
» in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that are
» asked in the parantheses below:
»
» 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex or
» also to my hairline)?
» Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» 1g Lysine daily
» 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» 4 g daily MSM
» 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» Multivitamin
»
» Any thoughts?
I am officially declaring what works for me. This regime has caused a lot of vellus hairs to sprout and some of them seem as if they’re turning into terminal hairs. Judging by what I am experiencing now, it looks like it will just restore a couple years worth of loss and that it will take more than 6 months to show really noticeable effect simply because it will take that long for the short hairs I have now to grow to adequate length and thickness.
I am sure it’s mostly the Dutasteride. I have experienced very minor shedding, but more than usual. Usually, because of what I was using before – fish, borage, flax oil and SP and beta sis – I had almost no shedding. But I had less growth. Now growth is happening.
I switched to topical Dut in aloe vera gel and I will take 320 mg of SP a day with 120 mg beta sis.
» I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which I am
» in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that are
» asked in the parantheses below:
»
» 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex or
» also to my hairline)?
» Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» 1g Lysine daily
» 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» 4 g daily MSM
» 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» Multivitamin
»
» Any thoughts?
While Dut does work for me at least as well as I can imagine something working, I am having to take a break because of the depression, headaches, memory loss side effects. I haven’t decided what my approach will be or whether I’ll even go back on…I think maybe I’ll stick with a two minutes of topical application a couple of times a week approach and leave it at that.
» » I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which I
» am
» » in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that
» are
» » asked in the parantheses below:
» »
» » 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» » Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex
» or
» » also to my hairline)?
» » Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» » 1g Lysine daily
» » 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» » 4 g daily MSM
» » 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» » hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» » Multivitamin
» »
» » Any thoughts?
»
» While Dut does work for me at least as well as I can imagine something
» working, I am having to take a break because of the depression, headaches,
» memory loss side effects. I haven’t decided what my approach will be or
» whether I’ll even go back on…I think maybe I’ll stick with a two minutes
» of topical application a couple of times a week approach and leave it at
» that.
you are bombarding your self with dangerous drugs, DUT can be absorbed systemically
I would rather go bald than take all the drugs you are taking
have you already tried a combo of pygeum nettles Saw Palmetto and a super hair vitamin? if not why not
its like you are trying for a gold medal in every hair drug on the market
Excuse my ignorance, but in what ways dangerous? Are there specific indications of dut toxicity?
And here it goes:
Topical: Emu & Nizoral Cream Shampoo: Revita Internal:
Fucoxanthin
Naltrexone 4.5
Avodart
Proscar
Super BioActive CoQ10 Ubiquinol
Super Omega-3 EPA/DHA with Sesame Lignans & Olive Fruit Extract
Mega GLA with Sesame Lignans
Super Booster Softgels
Super-Absorbable Soy Isoflavones
"R"-Dihydro-Lipoic Acid
Super CLA Blend with Guarana and Sesame Lignans
Life Extension Mix™ Caps
Mitochondrial Energy Optimizer with SODzyme™
L-Glutamine
Advanced Natural Prostate Formula with 5-Loxin®
DHEA Complete
Natural Estrogen with Pomegranate Extract
Super Curcumin with Bioperine®
Mega Green Tea Extract (Decaffeinated)
Grapeseed Extract with Resveratrol
Resveratrol
Bromelain
Taurine
I may be a lucky one when it comes to tolerance. I have the same sex drive as I did 20 years ago (40 this yr), no bitch tits and no noticable headaches or ‘fog’. I had a full blood panel with hormones about two years ago and all checked out well. I’d love to say I have had noticable growth, but can’t really. Hence the mega session with H&W. The area they didn’t touch was the crown and I haven’t looked at it for some time. I will take a pic this w/e to compare to prior pictures and see if I’m not too lazy to post the comparison.
I was serious about the dut question though. I am interested in overall health more than a full head of hair. Barring the obvious noted side effects, if there is a known indicator of toxicity, I’d love to know.
» I may be a lucky one when it comes to tolerance. I have the same sex drive
» as I did 20 years ago (40 this yr), no bitch tits and no noticable
» headaches or ‘fog’. I had a full blood panel with hormones about two years
» ago and all checked out well. I’d love to say I have had noticable growth,
» but can’t really. Hence the mega session with H&W. The area they didn’t
» touch was the crown and I haven’t looked at it for some time. I will take
» a pic this w/e to compare to prior pictures and see if I’m not too lazy to
» post the comparison.
»
» I was serious about the dut question though. I am interested in overall
» health more than a full head of hair. Barring the obvious noted side
» effects, if there is a known indicator of toxicity, I’d love to know.
have you tried naturals and had no sucess?
I have stopped my balding totally, since 99 all with naturals, well i did try niz cream a year ago for 3 months and had good success with that but 99 percent of my success is with naturals
HIT - Ever since I started my battle back in 96, I’ve basically taken/used my current regiment (in part) plus Rogaine and every other snake oil that was the latest cure. As far as ‘naturals’, only the supplements I’m currently taking (plus Lysine @ times). I get 99% of them from http://www.lef.org.
» HIT - Ever since I started my battle back in 96, I’ve basically taken/used
» my current regiment (in part) plus Rogaine and every other snake oil that
» was the latest cure. As far as ‘naturals’, only the supplements I’m
» currently taking (plus Lysine @ times). I get 99% of them from
» http://www.lef.org.
if they are working and the side effects are worth it, then stick with it
if they are not working then why are you still taking this regimen
Q - have you tried naturals and had no sucess? I have stopped my balding totally, since 99 all with naturals, well i did try niz cream a year ago for 3 months and had good success with that but 99 percent of my success is with naturals.
A - One of the supplements: Advanced Natural Prostate Formula with 5-Loxin®
Supplement Facts
Amount Per Serving
Saw Palmetto (Serenoa repens) (berries) CO2 extract 320 mg [std to 85%-95% free fatty acids and sterols (272 mg)]
Cernitin® Flower Pollen extract (Secale cereale L.) 252 mg
» » » I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which
» I
» » am
» » » in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that
» » are
» » » asked in the parantheses below:
» » »
» » » 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» » » Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex
» » or
» » » also to my hairline)?
» » » Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» » » 1g Lysine daily
» » » 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» » » 4 g daily MSM
» » » 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» » » hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» » » Multivitamin
» » »
» » » Any thoughts?
» »
» » While Dut does work for me at least as well as I can imagine something
» » working, I am having to take a break because of the depression,
» headaches,
» » memory loss side effects. I haven’t decided what my approach will be or
» » whether I’ll even go back on…I think maybe I’ll stick with a two
» minutes
» » of topical application a couple of times a week approach and leave it
» at
» » that.
»
» you are bombarding your self with dangerous drugs, DUT can be absorbed
» systemically
»
» I would rather go bald than take all the drugs you are taking
»
» have you already tried a combo of pygeum nettles Saw Palmetto and a super
» hair vitamin? if not why not
»
» its like you are trying for a gold medal in every hair drug on the market
A few things: I chose my handle as going all out because I am trying a lot of things, but as BRM points out only DUT is the questionable one. Minoxidil and Nizoral are the other drugs I am using and they are topical. I am not trying a lot of drugs – all the other things I have been taking are vitamins/minerals/naturals.
Of course I tried DUT because of its effectiveness and I am acutely aware of its side effects and potential for problems. I was obviously willing to risk these – and may still be topically with fewer applications.
DUT has obvious effectiveness. Topical DUT is the ONLY thing that cured me of my scalp itch that I know correlates with my areas of hair loss.
Everybody is different. One of the reasons why this board is helpful and why people spend time on it, I am sure, is because everyone responds differently to different things.
While I am wary about DUT, I was obviously willing to risk things as I said. If one eats an oleander plant, one will die of poisoning. Oleanders are natural and are plants. I am not taken in by the dogma that what is natural is necessarily good for you.
» To put it simply… I’m maintaining, and although that’s good, increased
» density is better.
»
»
» » if they are working and the side effects are worth it, then stick with
» it
» »
» » if they are not working then why are you still taking this regimen
maintaining is as good as regrowth, to those who were previously losing
its not at all easy to do…I have mantained and thickened since 99 and I thank my lucky stars to be one of the guys who is able to do this
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