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Dr Ray Woods "DANNY BOY" 3,500 FUE Before and After


#1

“Danny Boy”-Norwood 6, 28 y.o. 3,500 Donor via FUE

Before and After footage comparison.


#2

That is a beautiful result. Very well done Dr. Woods, very well done.


#3

it would be hard to find another doctor who can do the same, only 3500 grafts for a norwood 6.


#4

I would visit your clinic right now if not for the 20+ hr flight.


#5

This is perhaps the most natural looking hair transplant I have ever seen.

Nearly every transplant I have ever seen - on video or in real life - looks a bit odd, and therefore is detectable (which defeats the purpose of having one). Usually the front hairline is too straight or too low on the forehead, and the hairs oddly placed with directional foibles. Often, the hair doesn’t sit naturally on the head - as if it is resisting its forced relocation.

It takes a true artisan-scientist with good hands to get this aesthetic balance right. And this is clearly what Dr Woods is. I should stress that I have no relationship whatever with Dr Woods - I am simply an objective observer of this field, and his work clearly stands out to me as being consistently on a very high level.

Congratulations again on a great job.


#6

[quote][postedby]Originally Posted by HMorHT[/postedby]
I would visit your clinic right now if not for the 20+ hr flight.[/quote]

Or the price tag. :smiley:


#7

ahh…Wylie

Whilst browsing through some Australian forums, some people were enquiring about FUE in Australia…and whether or not anyone was any good at it.
a few posters replied and mentioned me and couldn’t believe they did not know about the inventor of FUE being right here etc…that was nice and flattering

Into the thread weasles wylie, and trying to give the impression of being fair and balanced he states that he regards me as a highly principled and ethical doctor…but that was just the silk glove covering the iron fist

He states the following to the Australian audience

1 He has read bad things about me

2 my “behaviour toward patients is bizarre and eccentric”

3 I have fallen by the wayside, failed to innovate, have been surpassed, and its very “SAD”

And the final kicker, and I believe motivation for this rot, he urges patients to come share his wonderful transplant journey with Dr Umar

Firstly , every single doctor in this industry has had bad things written about them. Often true, but sometimes deliberately deceitful blogs to direct patients to other doctors. And some doctors go to extremes to make bad press “go away”. They are also protected thoroughly with DISLAIMERS AND GAG ORDERS, discouraging most from saying a word.
I have NEVER done that . I have for 25 years been at full public disclosure, something no other doctor in the world would dare to do. Call that bizarre and eccentric ?

I have "sadly fallen away and been surpassed " because I refuse to compromise and maintain the declaration of patient rights since day one. I don’t production line patients, I don’t pre punch harmful holes, I don’t damage the donor and destroy countless follicles. I don’t present before and after pics which are so easily manipulated. I don’t cause mountains of damaged patients and like a coward use attack dog lawyers to protect me, bury the bad , and cherry pick only the good results for display. I don’t use easy labour saving drills which can cause MASSIVE donor destruction…call that bizarre and eccentric ?

I have in 25 years NEVER caused harm to a patient or had any evidence of such ever presented to , or upheld by the medical board, or ever presented legally, despite not having ANY legal disclaimer protection. NO OTHER DOCTOR ON EARTH CAN MATCH OR BEAT THAT RECORD THUS FAR. Any proof of bizarre or eccentric behaviour would be met with DE REGISTRATION…But it is all false, and probably written by people like Wylie with alterior motives.

Wylie’s post was offensive , wrong, and I believe motivated.
If he had the smallest shred of decency he should take it down and apologise. But I DON’T EXPECT THAT. I dont have time to check other forums but who knows what he, and others like him are up to.

For the first time in my career, I ask fair, unbiased people who are aware of my work and impeccable track record, if you see crap like this on some forum, don’t let these liars run free.

Dr Ray Woods


#8

Unfortunately it turns out that I don’t have good enough characteristics to have an HT so I don’t know any of the doctors as a customer - but over the years I have been looking and I don’t think there is any evidence that Dr Woods yield with FUE has ever been surpassed (I thought it might be with HST but now think I was wrong) - and from what I have seen with BHT yield personally I don’t think it’s even been close to being equalled. His BHT yield that has been shown is ‘the nuts’ :slight_smile:


#9

Dr. Woods, I’m sorry if you found what I wrote in a recent posting to be hurtful. Perhaps my comments came out sounding harsh and disrespectful towards you. I don’t remember the exact wording of my comments but what you quoted I do recognize saying. I want to clarify that my comments were based on a very detailed and thorough posting about someone who had an appointment for a surgery with you, you didn’t show up, he then rescheduled, only to have to wait for hours before you finally did see him. Others on the thread (at least one other poster) then echoed a similar experience.

I admit that I inferred much from one posters experiences. He did not say anything bad about you as a doctor, and I should not have written what I did about you. If I knew how to retract what I wrote, or even add an addendum, I most certainly would.

I have lot of respect for your work Dr. Woods, as well as your ethics and your track record. I am certainly not on any forum to push Dr. Umar’s work, nor do I have any ulterior motives or secret agenda in posting. I paid enough money to this industry and those that work in it that I’m not going to be promoting anyone, only telling others about my own result, and the only people I feel like telling my story to are those who have been written off as hopeless, as I was for over 15 years. 15 years. It’s a long time. I know for a fact that only two people could have repaired me, that is you and Dr. Umar. You and he alone in this entire world. What Dr. Umar did for me could have only been replicated by you.

If you choose to post a link to my post, I will certainly add an explanation, edit, or complete retraction.


#10

"but over the years I have been looking and I don’t think there is any evidence that Dr Woods yield with FUE has ever been surpassed " Having been on message boards over a decade I would echo this statement!


#11

Wylie, I have been doing this for 25 years and treated thousands of patients.

99.9% of the time, what you stated and quoted does not happen.

But you made it sound like the norm.

Every doctor on earth, irrespective of specialty, has had the same happen.

Remember when Homer ate the poison fish, and waited in the ER room. The doctor came in and said… "Mr Simpson…you have 24 hours to live "

The doctor then looked at his watch and said…" actually , you have 20 hours to live …I am sorry to have kept you waiting "

If you cherry pick enough selected bad stuff about any particular target, you can make any good doctor , or person , look bad, and that includes EVERY doctor or anyone in the world

I don’t want you to delete that post…that looks like I forced the webamster and did what what most doctors do to get rid of bad press

So, keep it, but whether or not you do the right and decent thing, by posting and un doing the damage, is up to you.

But as we all know, once mud is flung, some sticks.

You unjustly damaged my credibility. Now yours is in question.

What happens now is up to you

Dr Ray Woods


#12

Well, Dr. Woods, I honestly don’t know where the post even is, or what board I posted it on. And one of the reasons I have a vague recollection of making it is because it may be the only time I’ve ever said anything critical about you.

However, let’s examine it in more detail: My inference, as inaccurate and unfair it may have been, was not critical of your ethics or your performance as a surgeon. It was my opinion, based on other posters discussing how hard it was see you at a scheduled time. I remember trying to get in touch with your clinic once and the difficulty of doing so. Getting emails returned simply did not happen. From the sounds of other posters experiences, I inferred you were cherry picking surgeries based on whatever mood you were in at the time. I admit it was wrong to do this, and my judgement was both lacking and unjustified in making a conclusion like that. Your skills and your ethics were not in doubt.

You are not asking me to retract a story as a former patient, you are not asking me to edit my commentary with the threat of legal action hovering, you are simply asking me to set the record straight, which I would have no problem doing, provided I knew where to go to do so.

So if you want this to happen, simply send me a link to the post in question to:

wilyecoyote@att.net

As an aside, please don’t assign too much importance to this, it is one persons anonymous opinion in a sea of anonymous opinions. Your track record speaks for itself. Your ethics do as well. All I have is my opinion and my own experiences with an industry that both of us know has been sorely lacking in ethics. You can rest assured that you are on the right side of history, and that is worth more than all the money you could ever hope to make in one lifetime of doing surgeries.


#13

However, let’s examine it in more detail: My inference, as inaccurate and unfair it may have been, was not critical of your ethics or your performance as a surgeon. It was my opinion, based on other posters discussing how hard it was see you at a scheduled time. I remember trying to get in touch with your clinic once and the difficulty of doing so. Getting emails returned simply did not happen. From the sounds of other posters experiences, I inferred you were cherry picking surgeries based on whatever mood you were in at the time. I admit it was wrong to do this, and my judgement was both lacking and unjustified in making a conclusion like that. Your skills and your ethics were not in doubt.

In 25 years, not having a legal disclaimer or gag clause, means that if I harmed anyone or disfigured or scarred, the pictures would be all over the net.
And there would be nothing I could do to stop it. As many already know, there are websites and forums very unfriendly to me, for 2 main reasons.
I refuse to pay the “subscription fee” to the site. But lets call it for what it is.
PROTECTION MONEY…dont pay, and bad press flows like the mississippii…never could spell that word
Secondly, I rocked the Industry “gravy production train” with the Declaration of Patient Rights"…that made a lot of powerful enemies to this day

There is no evidence of me scarring, disfiguring, harming or damaging anyone ever.
Because it does not exist.

Being late a few times is not a hanging offence, but I am sorry if I caused inconvienience…

I accept your apology Wylie…Thankyou. when I find the site again, ILL let you know, but for now, lets let it go, and I wish you well.

Dr Ray Woods


#14

That’s fine with me, Dr. Woods, you got my email, cut and paste the address of the offending post if you change your mind.

I can imagine that, over time, one can lose sight of the fact of just how valuable occupying the moral high ground really is. You look down on the cliquish fraternity of doctors who are all adept at covering for each other and burying the past of an industry that has made more money disfiguring the appearance of human beings than any other industry in the world, and to know you are excluded from that very club could, if interpreted incorrectly, make one feel bitter about it.

However, exclusion for having a higher set of principles and moral integrity is a badge of honor. You are a pioneer in more than just surgery, you are also a pioneer in the rights of your patients.

As far as I’m concerned, you have earned a level of respect and credibility that no one else can match, and the value of this is truly priceless. It cannot be purchased and will never show up on anyones profit margin.


#15

Very nice work here Dr. Woods


#16

Back to the HT patient at hand . . . . .

IMO that’s a helluva lot of coverage for 3500 grafts. But I don’t think it’s the most natural HT that I’ve ever seen. It has a bit of that generalized too-low-density look rather than the common natural pattern of mild recession.

I think it may have helped the realism to pull the temple coverage back a bit (receded more) and concentrate on thickening up the vertex/high sides. A little more of that “NW#3 and headed for a #5 in the future” look. IMO that is the most natural way to spread out a limited supply of hair over a large balded area and still justify a decent front forelock. The idea of a faint NW#5 pattern might scare some guys but a pattern created by HT grafts does not ever worsen in the future.


#17

Cal, I deliberately do extensive comb throughs from all angles including from above.
This is to show the reality, not the illusion.

This guy looks much better in real life. No one will meet him, say hello, then get a step ladder, stand over his head with a magnification spot light and comb through their hair.

When he is sitting down at dinner etc, no one is going to put his hair through the scrutiny I just put him through. No one.

And a diffusely thinning pattern is extremely common

In this day and age of incredibly accessable and easy media technology used by even young children, in this industry, deceptive before and after PICS are the norm. So true scrutiny is difficult. Please apply your critique skills to that farce each time it occurs…but you would have to be on forums full time.

I agree with what you said about one of the major chains. But you left out how most get away with it. The unholy alliance between legal hores and the doctors they protect.
No one should ever go for any surgery without reading the disclaimer and gag clauses therein well in advance. Its like that SouthPark episode where 99.9% of people press the Apple “I AGREE” button with no clue of what they just put themselves in for.

Ps Is no one picking up, or getting tired of before and after pics where the patient clearly had large amounts of good pre existing hair shaven to improve the after result contrast ? And even when videos are shown, decent close up from above comb throughs must be shown. If not, you are being shown an illusion. Which is ok as long as the doctor is being honest about it. No one can put all the hair back so transplantation is often an illusion. But don’t be duped into thinking its reality.

Dr Ray Woods


#18

I think this is excellent considering that he was almost slick bald in the beginning, my question is whether he is stuck with this long hair or can he still look natural if he cut his hair short?


#19

[quote][postedby]Originally Posted by Wylie[/postedby]
I know for a fact that only two people could have repaired me, that is you and Dr. Umar. You and he alone in this entire world. What Dr. Umar did for me could have only been replicated by you.

[/quote]

just based on my observations alone and by no means scientific, my personal opinion is that Umar would probably require 3 times as the number of grafts in order to accomplish what Woods did for the patient in this video.


#20

“just based on my observations alone and by no means scientific, my personal
opinion is that Umar would probably require 3 times as the number of grafts
in order to accomplish what Woods did for the patient in this video.”

Quoting Xbox360 above from a previous post. I’m not on here that often but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a patient of Dr. Woods who had a procedure of more than 3500 grafts. If he has I stand corrected.

Woods and grafts is akin to a magician pulling rabbits out of a hat. They keep coming up.

In relation to Lucky’s post ( by no means any offence ), I know short hair is fashionable, but why do people want a hair transplant just to cut their hair off. Don’t make sense, but I’m an old fart anyway.

Nice work Dr. Woods.