- Dr. Nigam - The case of Wesley failed!

This is the update that Wesley, a patient of Belgium operated in January by Nigam, left on another forum:



Hi, here some 4 month update.

Its I expected other result…

it seems that there’s to much donor extracted out thin zones already, and so far: no visible regrowth at donor with doubling

i contacted prohairclinic in Antwerp , and they say also that donor is tomuch thinned in some parts , they advised me to go for medical pigmentation to save appearance of donor.

i have gone for medical pigmentation on top of head to thick up the verry thin zones , donor will be done at end of the year , if there no further improvement.

people with results from same procedure in this forum?

ill keep you posted , maybe results get better…



This is Wesley not boldy and only four months but still like to hear what the doc has to say…

Prohair has a history of attacking Gho and stem cell hair transplants, I do not expect Prohair would have anything good to say about Nigam’s results.

Let me guess, the scalp pigmentation treatment was offered to you by Prohair?

Arashi will keep me busy. wesley never said that his procedure has failed in 4 months.

It is Arashi who again started at BT, claiming wesley’s procedure, he is good in scaring people.He will come up with one controversy every fortnight…hope so not earlier…thanks for giving my time to rebutt…as i do not post photos at bt,arashi takes advantage…by coming to his own conclusions…

Kindly have a look at the before picture’s of wesley and also compare the same with after 4 months

pictures posted by wesley at BT yesterday.

It is been alliged that his donor is depleted without even checking out is shaved donor, as I have

extracting only 1024 grafts from the donor scalp.They were bisected in vitro, 1635 bisected grafts were

implanted with the receipient and approx 450 grafts were implanted back of the donor scalp.

How can 1024 grafts deplete suddenly.

It is only when wesley shaves his donor and compares with the before pictures, we can know that exact

scenario. Not just because pro hair clinic recommend him scalp micro pigmentations (Although he had

scalp micro pigmentations this is mind)

631 grafts were extracted from the beared. 150 grafts sent to the lab. 431+ grafts were implanted at

receipients without doubling. 50 grafts were implanted on his FUT scalp as a test procedure for a second

session. So that the next session we can fill the FUT scar with beard grafts in the next session.

Fees paid only 1600 US $, since he was in boldy’s friend that is, cost to cost. Which can be return any

time after one year of procedure, if the patient does not get desired result, not before that.

Result what should be expected at the end of one year should be as follows.

  1. Total 1635 invitro bisected grafts should grow back at the frontal scalp and interior vertex.

  2. 431+ beard grafts should grow at his receipient by the end of one year.

  3. 631 extraction holes at beard should not show any white dots. Already we can not see 631 blank

spots at his beard. Yes density at beard extraction sites as it was mainly normal beard FUE.

  1. Even though he has not received any multiplied Stemcells and DP Culture, I am still expecting donor

regeneration of more than 450 bisected grafts implanted at the donor. As he was applying nano growth

factors, A cell like ECM.

To analysed the sucess of his procedure, wesley need to shave his donor every three months, and

take pics of beard and receipient and post to us. Kindly also read below,

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Wesley in july end 2013

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what information wesley has

provided at the BT forum 3/4 months back.

a quick history of myself :

hairloss started with me when i was 18 years… now i am 31 years old…

i started meds and first ht in 2008 ( 2700 grafts fut in istanbul) , then after that i did a fue

in belgium (2509 grafts).

i use alot of meds , and the last 2 years i’m doing bodybuilding as a hobby , no need to say

that higher testosteronlevels for musclegrowth

are nog so good for people like me with mpb , so to cut this short, my hair took a beating

over 2 years time… i was schocked to see my crown , normally

i style my hair with bit of fibers also, and it looks always great , i style it 365 days every

year , so when i got to see my before pics was a schock to me…

so what where my options ? i could not do a big fue , because of my almost done donor…

i’m a hard case for clinics because of my low donor left…

so i readed more into acell , dp culture and this hairdoubling… verry intresting for people

with lower donor, or just people that dont want to thin out there donor.

i watched the posts of this hairdoubling on the forums , and contacted dr nigams for this

procedure…

i arranged vacation on my work , and filled in application for india visum , airplaintickets ,

and dr nigams arranged me a good hotel not far from the clinic…

It seemed Boldy wanted to go there also for his experiment so we staid at same hotel.

arrived at mumbai

i got picked up at the airport of mumbai by a driver of dr nigams , they drived me to the

hotel (4-star svenska hotel) verry nice hotel with options to eat european foods…

after a good nightrest , i got a phonecall of dr nigams to arrange a hour of pickup , so we

can talk and see what is possible.

when arriving in the clinic dr nigams was waithing for me at the reception , he is verry nice

and realistic for what is possible and what my expectations are…

to save time for the next day they suggest to shave my head for extraction , i asked dr

nigams if its possible to keep my hair long on top , they could to the transplant

without of shaving on top , so the nurses only shaved the sides and back of the head , so i

got a hairstyle that still covers my head on top , to keep it as invisible for

my work and friends as possible when i return to belgium…

dr nigams showed me his other clinic , so he has 2 clinics in mumbai , and i have seen his

testperson in real life with the tatoo-dots on his donor and recipiant

for his hairdoubling case studie , and seen also the regrowth on the frontal zone on this

testperson with his activated stemcell injections.*

dr nigams asked me if i had done a bloodtest , every patient needs to do a bloodtest to

check bloodvalue and check for hiv , i have done 2 transplants in the past but i had

never been asked to do a hiv bloodtest before , its for patient and staff safety he told me ,

so its verry safe to do a hairtransplant in india , sinds your first checked

in his clinic , before they do any procedure… so his nurses taked some blood for lab-tests ,

and after this i got back at the hotel to rest some more.

the next day , procedure time…

i got picked up at the hotel and deliverd to the clinic , here the reception called the lab to

know the blood-test results , so this was a bit stressy to see what they find

after getting all the bloodtest results everything was good , no hiv thankgod and with the

other tests they see if your blood is not to thin or anything else ,everything was good

the nurses escorted me to the clinic on the first floor , they applyed prylox on the donor and

recepiant area , a local anesthetic so you feel the priks less of the anesthetic-syringes.

they also use ice with the injections so you dont feel any pain, after a few pain-checks they

started to extract the donorhairs , after a few hours they extracted a total of 1042 grafts

that they doubled with cutting under thereoscopic microscope with androidsystem on top

(so i could follow it to see how they cut my grafts)

i got to eat a bit upstairs , while they complete the doubling procedure, they coock or order

whatever you want to eat…*

after doubling they had 2084 grafts , to ensure donor recovery and keep backup on my

donor for future procedures they put 450 grafts back in the donor…

the remaining 1634 grafts are inplanted in the hairline and frontal zone of the head , to

densify the frontal zone more…

also a part of my chesthairs where extracted also , for dp survival , to boost the grafts ,

they inject activated stemcells with prp and growthfactors in donor and recepiant zone.

before i forget , the grafts are injected in the skin , no slits… so no bleeding… and grafts

are verry tight deep in the skin , at the end they clean everything and apply

ecm cream with growthfactors mixed in and put it on the donor and recepiant zone to boost

healing , and apply some bandage to keep donor protected and keep of any swellings in the

face.

they gave me a spraybottle with growthfactors in it , to spray on the recepiant zone , and

some medications : anti-inflammatory , antibiotics and other…

the staff on the clinic work hard , the doubling and inplantation between my long hair on

top makes it just more difficult and takes some more time to complete , in the evening the

driver takes me back to my hotel so i can rest for the procedure next day.

next day i had good breakfast in the hotel and got picked up by nigams driver…

at the clinic the doctor discuss what my options are , we go for extraction of beardhairs ,

and double these , to densify the crown and mid section of the head , the first day i allready

talked this over also , so i had allready trimmed my beard in the hotel , to safe time…

they applyed prylox on the beard and recepiant zones (mid section + crown) after local

anesthetic on the beard they started difuse extraction of beardhairs…

after extraction they started to double the beardhairs , they told me that its limited this

doubling sinds they can only double straith beardhairs , and alot are no suitibel for

doubling…

so while they doing the doubling i go to the upper floor to eat my orderd chicken sandwich

from subway sandwiches…

after a good meal i was escorted back to the procedure room , where the staff was waithing

to start local anesthetics on the mid section and crown , the extracted hairs ( 631 grafts)

where

doubled for 200 grafts more , so the total grafts where 831 grafts.

the inplantation took a bit longer now sinds they need to follow the crown hairdirections ,

beardhairs where difuse injected in mid-section and crown area…

i didnt had much notice of the hours that goes by sinds i was watching englisch movies that

i had chosen ( he has sattelite tv with large choise of englisch movies , all new movies)

they also extract more chesthairs for again , graft dp support , and got injections of his

activated stemcells with prp and growthfactors…

after the procedure they put on every zone some ecm cream with growthfactors mixed in ,

to boost healing…

it was in the evening and i got drived back at my hotel , i eat there something from the

roomservice and talked with my family some , and go to my bed to sleep.

the next days i go to the clinic for some checkups, cleaning bandages and for a few injects

with prp , growthfactors (not sure if this time there was also activated stemcells, cant

remember)

i got also some tubes ecm creme with me for in the hotel , i must say that i did not had any

pains , not in the procedure , and not after the procedure , so the optional painkillers they

gave

me i didnt take these , also the healing is spectacular , i had never seen so fast healing ,

dont know if this is from his stemcells or prp or growthfactors , maybe its the combination

that

does the trick , also i have seen on my chest that the extracted grafts are recovering, first

time i see new hairs growing out of extracted holes…

almost 30 extractionpoints on the chest grow new hairs, there many grafts that look thicker

and grow faster then hairs that are arround the extracted zone , verry strange…

a few hairs i helped to get trough the skin , dont know if i need to do this , or that the hairs

over time push trough , but a few holes i push on the skin a bit and i pull hairs out the

skin that are 1 cm in length , or even longer… is it with his activated stemcells , or the

growthfactors , i have never seen anything like this before…

and i had watched them removing the chesthairgrafts , they dubbelchecked at the end , so

how is this possible ? you can forget a graft its possible , but i have seen 30 grafts

generating new hairs ?

so this i my revieuw for now , ill be posting updates with pictures…

for now this are my update pictures for now : also have i documented the regrowth hairs on

the chest so you see clearly they grow out of the extracted holes…

i’m curious what the results will be , if this work , yes or no , time will tell…

ps sorry for my English its not to well.

from 300+ extracted hairs , are growing 30 back , with thicker density then the remaining

bodyhairs , and they grow faster…

also i helped 10 hairs getting trough the skin , dont know if they would go trough over

time…

dont know why i see here regrowth , i applyed also a high dosed growthfactormix , or is it

because the activated stemcell , not sure…

but its clear that its new hair , growing out of the extractiondots…

I could not be in touch with wesley after the procedure, but boldy was updating his progress to me…
Also find few pics sent by boldy through his phone ,hence blurred…you can see good growth in 3/4 months at boldy’s temples…wesley and boldy’s case was done together.

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[quote][postedby]Originally Posted by HMorHT[/postedby]
Prohair has a history of attacking Gho and stem cell hair transplants, I do not expect Prohair would have anything good to say about Nigam’s results.

Let me guess, the scalp pigmentation treatment was offered to you by Prohair?[/quote]

nice work dr nigam.

Dr. Nigam…shame on you!!! How dare you???
You know very well that this case of Wesley is a big fail! I’m not talking about poor results only…I’m talking about destroyed life, not only his hair but his emotional life! You have given this guy a false hope…he trusted you…he didn’t care about money, he just wanted his life back like we all do, and you let him down! My question is ‘‘why’’??? For few thousand dollars? I hope you will need all that money to cure yourself!!! If you need money we will collect it for you, but stop giving us false hope!!! I hope there is a God looking at all of this…i want the same for you! It’s time for you to leave!!! SHAME ON YOU

Don’t know what the alarm is about but the guy was pretty bald to begin with.

I can’t say his after results look any better (or worse for that matter) as his hair is longer. Perhaps if he cuts his hair to the same length as above, the comparison might be easier.

Coki, how can you speak for Wesley like that? Your attack against Dr. Nigam is baseless, it’s just outright defamation from an uninformed person. Your tone is hysterical. You were not there, you were not a witness, and you’re misrepresenting and twisting the facts.

I am tired of competitors of Dr. Nigam and their friends and associates coming here to attack him and make spurious, fabricated allegations that are not based on first-hand knowledge of anything relevant.

Stop abusing your HairSite posting privileges to make personal, defamatory attacks against Dr. Nigam!

Oh yes??? Roger_that are you sure about that? Then why do not you go for treatment? You’re not aware of what you’re doing with your claims. You are pushing people to trust to “doctor” who is injecting grow factors in the scalp,are you aware that these growth factors is extremely carcinogenic??? If he has something the whole world would know about that in 5 min…

Roger_that…are you sure that I was not there… I know very well what is going on my friend… please just do not support Dr. Nigam. He is just f r a u d and he is experimenting with people… if you trust him then keep it for yourself…but you were not there, and trust me you do not know a thing…

This coki seems to be arashi.Like him, he keeps on repeating, thinking that all people are fools here- he thinks thst the more he repeats, more people will believe him.
People here can and will make their own subjective assessments of Wesley’s case. Wesley has already stated that he is not v. happy with the result after 4 months. Fair enough.
Dr.Nigam has said -judge his work after 12 months with the donor shaved. Looks fair enough.
Wesley, it would be very appreciated if you shaved your hair at donor site and post some photos.
For myself, to make a assessment, hope i could see a photo of wesley with dry long hair just before Dr.Nigam’s procedure.

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[postedby]Originally Posted by drnigam[/postedby][/quote]

Why did you post this picture Nigam?

This was before Wesley had any procedures. Since then, he’s had 5000 grafts transplanted. So why didn’t you post a proper before picture, directly prior to his procedure with yourself, for comparison? This picture is irrelevant.

You can’t keep manipulating results and expect to get away with it.

unfortunately, I have heard some more really bad news from another patient of Dr. Nigam. It appears that another one of Dr Nigams very prominent cases has spoken up about a very bad self-assessment. He is however disinclined to make any further comments on it, as he is still awaiting to undergo a professional test (possibly a hair count?!). I think slowly it is time to move on, Dr Nigam’s in-vitro doubling does not appear to work.

I have been very reluctant to pass any kind of judgment until now but honestly, in no good conscience can I recommend for ANYONE to go to Dr Nigam at this point. I would be willing to reconsider if Dr Mwamba’s donor doubling assessment turns out to be positive. Until then the evidence that it is not working as promised is piling on.

[quote][postedby]Originally Posted by drnigam[/postedby]

[postedby]Originally Posted by JJJ Jr. S[/postedby]

Why did you post this picture Nigam?

This was before Wesley had any procedures. Since then, he’s had 5000 grafts transplanted. So why didn’t you show a proper before picture, directly before he had a procedure with yourself, for comparison? This picture is irrelevant.

You can’t keep manipulating results and expect to get away with it.[/quote]

@hairman2

can you please elaborate?

who/when/how/why/what happened?

unfortunately we have been specifically asked not to reveal details.

[quote][postedby]Originally Posted by bananana[/postedby]
@hairman2

can you please elaborate?

who/when/how/why/what happened?[/quote]

Hairman and others, could we please stop posting second-hand, unverified rumours and allegations on here, that come from other websites like the “private forum” (saga), and elsewhere?

The worst type of accusation is when someone makes a claim of a bad outcome, but offers no proof and says “unfortunately no details can be provided”.

To be fair to Dr. Nigam, please substantiate all allegations and accusations, or keep them to yourself until such time as you can offer proof.

Dr. Nigam has made plenty of “unsubstantiated allegations” about being able to regenerate hair on his patients. There hasn’t been any effort to block his claims until they are proven.

roger_that, I don’t come here much anymore but I was aware that Dr. Nigam is being attacked again so I want to point out key points:

  1. You’re right. 4 months is not long enough to make a determination about Wesley and for all we know the guy Hairman is talking about has also only gotten his treatment within the last 4 months. This is the problem with unsubstantiated claims like Hairman’s - one can’t put Hairman’s assertions under a microscope because nobody has any idea who/what Hairman is talking about.

  2. Donor doubling may not work in 100% of patients but it may work in some patients so keep that in mind.

  3. There are different issues when it comes to Dr. Nigam. He isn’t just working on donor doubling. Dr. Nigam is ALSO working with cellular transplants, growth factors, repeat injections, and other advanced techniques. He’s doing things with cells and growth factors that other scientists are doing and the other scientists are having some success. Plus Dr. Nigam is adding some things in the mix that other scientists are not doing yet.

So even if one thinks donor doubling is more trouble than it’s worth that doesn’t mean that Dr. Nigam won’t come up with something interesting. He has a number of different ideas in the works, not just one idea.

[quote][postedby]Originally Posted by roger_that[/postedby]
Hairman and others, could we please stop posting second-hand, unverified rumours and allegations on here, that come from other websites like the “private forum” (saga), and elsewhere?

The worst type of accusation is when someone makes a claim of a bad outcome, but offers no proof and says “unfortunately no details can be provided”.

To be fair to Dr. Nigam, please substantiate all allegations and accusations, or keep them to yourself until such time as you can offer proof.[/quote]

Moopookoo/didi, are you the creator of this fine website:

http://drnigams.weebly.com/

We’ve been having a debate about it on BTT. Great job, whoever it is :smiley:

looks like nothing more than character assassination.

the patient’s results looks no different than any other transplant out there given his initial state of baldness and prior multiple surgeries.

admittedly however, the hair multiplication stuff seems less than effective at least for now.