» » » » »
» » why had i better hope one of those works? I have stopped my hairloss
» for
» » 10 yrs since 1999, and it has regenerated a lot…i am not
» » desperately hoping for HM
»
»
»
» Ive stopped my hairloss too Hangin, but my temples have not grown back. If
» you have grown everything back, you wouldn’t be here. HM is the only thing
» that is going to get your frontal loss back, hence why people are excited
» about it. Finas, nizoral, prox-n have worked pretty well as a tandem for
» me…
my frontal loss? you dont know what you are talking about. my front looks great, my temples stopped receding years ago. My crown, however has a bald spot that was bald for 14 yrs before i added DHT blockers. it will not grow back. and i dont care if it grows back. If you have been without hair in an area for 20 plus years you are adjusted to it. I am not a 20 something desperate for acceptance and a date insecure guy. like some on the board. You try to put your insecurities on other guys, and it does not translate.
If you are bald in an area, it is next to impossible to regenerate unless that area has only just recently lost the hair. If its like 5 plus years bald in that area, good luck getting any regrowth there
to me regrowth is not my goal, My goal is maintaining what I have. Have you maintained what you have for 10 yrs? i seriously doubt that
» Sounds like Hangin’s gonna do another session.
»
»
»
» Is that what it’s gonna be, Hangin?
»
» We’re nearing another milestone of new HM info, so you’re gearing up to
» spend another couple months bashing the HM-hopeful for being total idiots?
»
»
»
»
»
» Spare me.
»
» Not everyone can slam a bunch of vitamins & have enough hair on their
» heads. That’s great that you can, but you are not everyone. Your
» priorities do not therefore apply to everyone. You rationale based on
» life-experience would not have been created in the minds of everyone else.
»
»
» Some of us NEED some form of commercial Hair Multipication if we’re
» ever gonna achieve as much hair as you probably have
» now. THINK ABOUT THAT before you bash us as “idiots” for
» wanting HM to work so badly.
»
» THINK ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD FEEL - WHAT IF YOU WERE DOING EVERYTHING
» YOU’RE DOING NOW, MAYBE EVEN MORE, AND STILL QUICKLY LOSING MORE
» HAIR EACH YEAR.
»
» Don’t just intellectually know that it’s possible to have so much less
» success (luck) with your plan than you’ve had. Sit there in silence for
» five minutes and try to mentally PUT YOURSELF THERE.
look moron, my post was so tongue in cheek, and obviously sarcastic ribbing of you guys
if you are too dense to see that, my apologies, go back and re read it and see if you truly believe it was serious
if you do. you are a prime candidate to be scammed in your life
of course there is no way to know for me. But it would be the first time someone did discovery and reached commercial product in less then 10 years.
I say 5 years but probably more and thats assuming it all works and grows hair. The 5 years timeline is not caunting in any problems with their protocol. So if you want follica’s procedure before then, imho your only chance is that some of the guys at home will succeed reproducing the follica patent. But, the product from follica itself, wont be on the market any time soon.
there are imho quite logical reasons (mainly financial) why follica will WANT to go through proper trials and why they just wont try to rush to the market using gefinitib + lithium.
If from investors point of view it does not make sense to use existing drugs, then they just wont do it. Cotsarelis seems to be suggesting the same timeline (5+years if they are lucky).
You may believe in whatever you like, so if you disagree feel free to do so. You just will be being proven wrong every single day for the next 5 years
Its the same nonsense like when 2 years ago many guys here believed in late 2007 release.
» » » » » »
» » » why had i better hope one of those works? I have stopped my hairloss
» » for
» » » 10 yrs since 1999, and it has regenerated a lot…i am not
» » » desperately hoping for HM
» »
» »
» »
» » Ive stopped my hairloss too Hangin, but my temples have not grown back.
» If
» » you have grown everything back, you wouldn’t be here. HM is the only
» thing
» » that is going to get your frontal loss back, hence why people are
» excited
» » about it. Finas, nizoral, prox-n have worked pretty well as a tandem
» for
» » me…
»
» my frontal loss? you dont know what you are talking about. my front looks
» great, my temples stopped receding years ago. My crown, however has a bald
» spot that was bald for 14 yrs before i added DHT blockers. it will not grow
» back. and i dont care if it grows back. If you have been without hair in an
» area for 20 plus years you are adjusted to it. I am not a 20 something
» desperate for acceptance and a date insecure guy. like some on the board.
» You try to put your insecurities on other guys, and it does not translate. I COULDNT CARE LESS ABOUT YOU HANGIN’, OR YOUR HAIR ISSUES
» If you are bald in an area, it is next to impossible to regenerate unless
» that area has only just recently lost the hair. If its like 5 plus years
» bald in that area, good luck getting any regrowth there NO $HIT!»
» to me regrowth is not my goal, My goal is maintaining what I have. Have
» you maintained what you have for 10 yrs? i seriously doubt that
Yes, I have maintained what Ive had since getting more aggressive than only using finasteride. I wasn’t talking about YOUR FRONTAL LOSS, I was talking about mine. Its not going to be coming back without anything shy of a gene therapy. I know that. Hence why Im interested in HM-and related technology. My crown is extremely thick, with no sign of loss at all. Finasteride has done very well in that area. My temples are receeded. They have been for over five years…I want a viable HM-methodology because I want hair there.
» » » » » » »
» » » » why had i better hope one of those works? I have stopped my
» hairloss
» » » for
» » » » 10 yrs since 1999, and it has regenerated a lot…i am
» not
» » » » desperately hoping for HM
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » Ive stopped my hairloss too Hangin, but my temples have not grown
» back.
» » If
» » » you have grown everything back, you wouldn’t be here. HM is the only
» » thing
» » » that is going to get your frontal loss back, hence why people are
» » excited
» » » about it. Finas, nizoral, prox-n have worked pretty well as a tandem
» » for
» » » me…
» »
» » my frontal loss? you dont know what you are talking about. my front
» looks
» » great, my temples stopped receding years ago. My crown, however has a
» bald
» » spot that was bald for 14 yrs before i added DHT blockers. it will not
» grow
» » back. and i dont care if it grows back. If you have been without hair in
» an
» » area for 20 plus years you are adjusted to it. I am not a 20 something
» » desperate for acceptance and a date insecure guy. like some on the
» board.
» » You try to put your insecurities on other guys, and it does not
» translate.
» I COULDNT CARE LESS ABOUT YOU HANGIN’, OR YOUR HAIR
» ISSUES
»
then why did you say If
you have grown everything back, you wouldn’t be here. by the way, i could give a shiit what hair you have lost or regrown also.
» » If you are bald in an area, it is next to impossible to regenerate
» unless
» » that area has only just recently lost the hair. If its like 5 plus
» years
» » bald in that area, good luck getting any regrowth there NO
» $HIT!»
» » to me regrowth is not my goal, My goal is maintaining what I have. Have
» » you maintained what you have for 10 yrs? i seriously doubt that
»
»
» Yes, I have maintained what Ive had since getting more
» aggressive than only using finasteride. I wasn’t talking about YOUR FRONTAL
» LOSS, I was talking about mine. Its not going to be coming back without
» anything shy of a gene therapy. I know that. Hence why Im interested in
» HM-and related technology. My crown is extremely thick, with no sign of
» loss at all.
This is only true because you were lucky enough to be born in the age of fin and minox etc.
it has nothing to do with your superior hair loss knowledge
Finasteride has done very well in that area. My temples are
» receeded. Receded , learn how to spell, why not spell it reseeded. LOL They have been for over five years…I want a viable
» HM-methodology because I want hair there.
Good luck and dont hold your breath, all you guys holding out for HM are truly comical
» Hangning do you really think people here care about your opinion or what
» you have to say? Such a bell-end!
do i think they care …ask me this…Do I care what you guys think about what I think…nope…
you guys are single minded delusional and desperate…you dont want anyone spoiling your pity party, and your cheerleader session for technology that doesnt yet exist and may never come to pass
i just enjoy watching the insanity. its free entertainment
You are taking a guess, yet you criticize other people who take guesses?
» If from investors point of view it does not make sense to use existing
» drugs,
Here we go again. Developing a new EGFR inhibitor is retarded, since someone intent on copying their procedure will just use any of the several EGFR inhibitors already on the market.
» then they just wont do it. Cotsarelis seems to be suggesting the
» same timeline (5+years if they are lucky).
Well, by inference, this means they are NOT developing a new drug, since development of a new drug would take a decade at least – not 5 years.
And then there’s the fact that Follica has already said that they are using approved drugs and procedures. Sheesh.
» Fair enough, you have a right to your opinion.
»
» If I did’t believe HM or at least a better treatment would ever come out I
» just would’nt bother coming here.
»
» Isn’t That the point of the Hm & research board though? to discuss what
» might come out?
true but
there is a fine line , so many supposed treatments have not amounted to jack shi…t and yet everyone just plugs along as if . the next one is right around the corner
nothing wrong with optimism, but the treatments most of you are touting now are not even in the testing phases yet, and some of them the companies are not even saying they intend to try to develop them
why is it that you guys spend 99 percent of your thoughts on HM, When there is really no proof that it will ever come to fruition, what good does that do? you say you have hope…why not just go to church and pray for hair. It would have about the same effect
what positive benefit has anyone ever gotten from HM up to this point? none that i can think of, has it ever worked on a human ? if so can u go get it now? nope
if it ever does come fine , show it to me , i might even buy the procedure. But until then why spend hours every day speculating on it
» » to me regrowth is not my goal, My goal is maintaining what I have.
»
» Then why are you here? With minoxodil and finasteride, you should be all
» set.
»
» I suspect that you aren’t really satisfied with your hair.
i am happy to maintain what i have
sure if i could have it all back it would be nice but I do not put near the emphasis on hair that you guys do
i am married financially secure and have that out of the way.
in your 20s guys are looking to hook up with chicks, all their friends have nice hair
in your 40s most of your friends are thinning also, you already have the chick thing out of the way, and the job thing is less of a stress factor
me and my hair is like a chubby guy saying he would not mind losing 10lbs but if he doesnt it wont affect him ,it would just be a nice addition to his life if it did happen
you guys think that because you are panicking about your hair and waiting for HM to come rescue you, that everyone on the board shares your panic and emphasis on hair
there are those of us who sure, would like more of our hair back
but we place about 10 percent of the emphasis on hair that you guys do
as an example of how not concerned i am about my hair, I would NEVER risk disfiguring myself to get a transplant
you have guys on the transplant board who would get a tranplant in a heartbeat if there was a CHANCE they would look better…
I have never heard about pharma that would start doing business on someone elses drug. It just does not make any sense and imho it is practically impossible to do because everyone will do it together with you and you wont see much of the money.
Pharmas make business based on proprietary components that they can control.
The only chance is that they would license the drug from someone, and rename it and control it this way. I’m sure that whoever controls gefinitib now would not give it cheap. And even then any doctor could just use gefinitib directly and would get away with it. And Follica could not do anything about it. But yes this might be an option depending on their current financial situation and sale estimates.
If Cotsarelis says 5 years if lucky then the chance that it would be earlier is slim. Usually the researchers are too optimistic and deliver late.
If they have proprietary component and do trials they can always claim that THEIR procedure is the only one proven to be effective and safe. And that others dodgy treatments are gray market and carry on risks.
The current info about Folica seems to point to faster than that by a lot of our reconing. Wasn’t that comment being made over a year ago, and back when they thought the wound would have to be much more severe?
But you keep mentioning that quote. Dare I say “selective recollections of info to justify your preexisting viewpoint”?
We dont need ACELL to start selling it for hair regrowth purposes.
As long as it grows hair no body will give a sht if its aproved for tissue repair only.
And so far it really looks like they do plan to start selling it soon. So if it works like in the dogs / horses, we all could benefit.
Thats the theory. If it wont work, and gefinitib + wounding fails. then its pretty much what you said. No cure in next decade very likely unless someone found the reason why mpb scalp is so special.
» We dont need ACELL to start selling it for hair regrowth purposes.
»
» As long as it grows hair no body will give a sht if its aproved for tissue
» repair only.
»
» And so far it really looks like they do plan to start selling it soon. So
» if it works like in the dogs / horses, we all could benefit.
»
» Thats the theory. If it wont work, and gefinitib + wounding fails. then
» its pretty much what you said. No cure in next decade very likely unless
» someone found the reason why mpb scalp is so special.
The planned release date (so I’ve heard) for Acell was yesterday.
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