Chances of seeing a cure in your lifetime if you\'re over 40yrs old = 0%

Stem cell; cell based hair therapy
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» » » » I don’t live my life caring what mere women think. If you do,
» you’ll
» » » » never attract and keep high quality women no matter how much hair
» or
» » »
» » » Lies
» »
» » +1
» »
» » Of course women care about looks. You are living in a fantasy land if
» you
» » think they don’t. You are here because you care about yout looks. I
» don’t
» » think there’s anything abnormal about caring about your appearance.
» »
» » I remember some guy mentioning that he saw the science documentary NOVA
» in
» » the 80s and it said baldness would be cured in 10 years.
» »
» » I sometimes wonder around Walmart and I see bald guys trying to pick out
» a
» » good shirt or pant. I really wonder why. No matter what nice clothes
» they
» » wear, the uglyness is up top and cannot be changed. I personally don’t
» » care about what I wear anymore because I don’t see how wearing a fancy
» » shirt can change my appearance.
» »
» » I really hope we have a cure soon but if we don’t, I gotta start
» thinking
» » about how to cope with this sh&t for the rest of my young and middle
» age
» » life. I’ll give up hoping when I’m 50+.
» »
» » If you were a betting man and had to put your life saving’s on it,
» would
» » you bet that the cure will be out within the next 10 years (out as in
» » you’ll be back to norwood 2)?
»
» Just got back from dinner at a restaurant where a very bald guy, NW 7 (not
» shaved - he had the telltale horseshoe of brown hair)…about 40… Sitting
» with an extremely HOT young redhead and their children… I wondered, WTF?
» That guy’s a lot balder than me. I bang a chick every once in awhile, but
» never anything like that… Not since college, at least. Then I got up from
» my table and stood to my full 5’10"…and he got up…he was at least 6’5"
» and pretty well built.
»
» The I said to myself, “Oh.”
»
» It isn’t just hair, it’s a lot of things… And believe it or not,
» personality is part of it, too. I’m just sayin’…

I have a relative who is of average height, and looks like Alfred E. Newman, and who married a beautiful girl who looks like my ideal woman.

But this woman was dumped by her former husband–a good looking, tall guy with hair, who treated her like trash and left her for another woman.

Alone with two children, of course she was happy to marry Alfred E. Newman.

Her ego was trashed and she had two kids in tow. She was desperate for a daddy for her kids.

What first-class man would want her?

With or without my hair, I wouldn’t marry some other guy’s reject with kids.

Getting women is like any other economic exchange, like buying a car or a house.

If you haven’t a lot of money, sure you could buy an expensive looking house or car, providing the house is trashed on the inside and the car needs a totally new drive train.

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» » » » » I don’t live my life caring what mere women think. If you do,
» » you’ll
» » » » » never attract and keep high quality women no matter how much hair
» » or
» » » »
» » » » Lies
» » »
» » » +1
» » »
» » » Of course women care about looks. You are living in a fantasy land
» if
» » you
» » » think they don’t. You are here because you care about yout looks. I
» » don’t
» » » think there’s anything abnormal about caring about your appearance.
» » »
» » » I remember some guy mentioning that he saw the science documentary
» NOVA
» » in
» » » the 80s and it said baldness would be cured in 10 years.
» » »
» » » I sometimes wonder around Walmart and I see bald guys trying to pick
» out
» » a
» » » good shirt or pant. I really wonder why. No matter what nice
» clothes
» » they
» » » wear, the uglyness is up top and cannot be changed. I personally
» don’t
» » » care about what I wear anymore because I don’t see how wearing a
» fancy
» » » shirt can change my appearance.
» » »
» » » I really hope we have a cure soon but if we don’t, I gotta start
» » thinking
» » » about how to cope with this sh&t for the rest of my young and middle
» » age
» » » life. I’ll give up hoping when I’m 50+.
» » »
» » » If you were a betting man and had to put your life saving’s on it,
» » would
» » » you bet that the cure will be out within the next 10 years (out as
» in
» » » you’ll be back to norwood 2)?
» »
» » Just got back from dinner at a restaurant where a very bald guy, NW 7
» (not
» » shaved - he had the telltale horseshoe of brown hair)…about 40…
» Sitting
» » with an extremely HOT young redhead and their children… I wondered,
» WTF?
» » That guy’s a lot balder than me. I bang a chick every once in awhile,
» but
» » never anything like that… Not since college, at least. Then I got up
» from
» » my table and stood to my full 5’10"…and he got up…he was at least
» 6’5"
» » and pretty well built.
» »
» » The I said to myself, “Oh.”
» »
» » It isn’t just hair, it’s a lot of things… And believe it or not,
» » personality is part of it, too. I’m just sayin’…
»
» I have a relative who looks like Alfred E. Newman, and who married a girl
» who looks like my ideal woman.
»
» But this woman was dumped by her former husband, a good looking, tall guy
» who treated her like trash and left her for another woman.
»
» Alone with two children, of course she was happy to marry Alfred E.
» Newman. Her ego was trashed and she had two kids in tow.
»
» With or without my hair, I wouldn’t marry some other guy’s reject with
» kids.

Couldn’t agree more Ahab, there so much truth in that. That’s by far pathedic… it’s also not love. It’s actually one of the most retarded things a person could do. I see what your saying as well. No matter what, when it comes down to it… u have to love yourself. Unfortunately sometimes I think I need to remind myself of that (even tho I am pretty sure I know it deep down). You make a frickin good point tho no one who really loved themselves would go for that…

PS: I am not saying love your self as in being a narcassit but I think that’s implied.

one last thing… only related in the fact that were talking about woman and all… but I SERIOUSLY don’t care about getting a girl. I mean I like woman and I have no prob being w/ one but all I really want is my own biological children someday… that’s all that really matters to me.

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stop with these commentaries. I do not come here to read life histories. what he happened with ACELL? Dr. Jerry Cooley? Dr. Hitzig?

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» stop with these commentaries. I do not come here to read life histories.
» what he happened with ACELL? Dr. Jerry Cooley? Dr. Hitzig?

you expect hourly updates on this? hair does not grow at that pace you know…?

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» » stop with these commentaries. I do not come here to read life histories.
» » what he happened with ACELL? Dr. Jerry Cooley? Dr. Hitzig?
»
» you expect hourly updates on this? hair does not grow at that pace you
» know…?

btw guys… Dr Rassman has opened a whole new category in his blog for ACell related matters:
http://www.baldingblog.com/category/acell/

Actions like this and quotes such as:
While I was initially skeptical that this would be made available for hair loss patients so soon, Dr. Cooley’s presentation at the recent ISHRS meeting shows that it can be effective for hair.

These are very unusual steps for someone like Dr. Rassman who usually is very dismissive of new developments. (I dont recall him opening an Aderans or Histogen category… :stuck_out_tongue: ) He therefore seems to be quite confident that Dr. Cooley and Dr. Hitzig are really on to something here.

However while I am aware that Dr Rassman has a vested interest in selling HT procedures to his readers, I have never really felt that he was overly unreasonable. We’ve all seen supposed miracle advancements in hair restoration come and go and it the past has proven that you drive safer being pessimistic rather than optimistic, so I dont really blame him for that.

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stop with these commentaries. I do not come here to read life histories.
» » what he happened with ACELL? Dr. Jerry Cooley? Dr. Hitzig?
»
» you expect hourly updates on this? hair does not grow at that pace you
» know…? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes I know… but I asked because of this line… - > You guys need to calm down about Acell (commanderfink)

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» » » » I don’t live my life caring what mere women think. If you do,
» you’ll
» » » » never attract and keep high quality women no matter how much hair
» or
» » »
» » » Lies
» »
» » +1
» »
» » Of course women care about looks. You are living in a fantasy land if
» you
» » think they don’t. You are here because you care about yout looks. I
» don’t
» » think there’s anything abnormal about caring about your appearance.
» »
»
» Of course we’re here because we care about our looks, but that does not
» mean we care about our looks only because of what women think about us.
» Many bald men would still want hair even if they could get any woman they
» want without it.
»
» Freddie, you are also overestimating the importance of hair to women. Are
» there women who won’t date bald men? Sure. Are there women who prefer men
» who aren’t bald? Of course. But then again, there are women who would
» only date tall men, thin men, fat men, men that look like red-necks, black
» men, white men, athletes, intellectuals, etc, etc. No matter who you are,
» or how you look like, there are women who would date you and women who
» won’t.
»
» And I can think of at least one very common physical characteristic that
» cuts down on the number of women who would date you WAY more than being
» bald, and that’s being short. But if you are short, that’s okay too,
» you’ll probably have to stick to dating shorter women.

Very good point. Its funny you mentioned “short”. I recently asked a few women who would they choose given the choice between a hairy short guy or a bald tall guy. 100% of them said the tall guy…regardless. Anyway i think most of us on this board want hair for our own self esteem… rather than the count of how many hot babes you can bag… because the self esteem will get you that whether you’re bald or not.

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Today was the worst day in my life.

Someone told me that nobody survives his life and that we all will die sooner or later. Man this is a downer

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» Today was the worst day in my life.
»
» Someone told me that nobody survives his life and that we all will die
» sooner or later. Man this is a downer

I’m taking it Leeroy the above was written tongue in cheek, but it’s true some folks take a long time figuring out this obvious fact: none of us are getting out of this alive.

Or do we? Many cultures think life’s a circle, and even in our own western culture people like Dr. Raymond Moody and others have much to say about the ‘end’. Maybe William Wordsworth said it the most eloquently:

                Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:
                The Soul that rises with us, our life's Star,
                       Hath had elsewhere its setting,
                           And cometh from afar
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» If you are 40 or older, you may as well forget about getting your hair
» back.
» …

I think you are very optimistic. A complete cure in 10 years? Where do I have to sign for that?

I remember a conversation 15 years ago. I was telling a workmate that a cure would be found in 5 years maximum. Yeah right.

As for the 50 y.o. people not minding to have their hair back you are completely wrong. I am close to that age and I really want to have my hair back.

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Wow, I totally forgot you’re an asshole.
Thanks for the reminder, oh, and nice job demeaning women BTW.

posted by Ahab, 21.11.2010, 23:35
I have a relative who is of average height, and looks like Alfred E. Newman, and who married a beautiful girl who looks like my ideal woman.

But this woman was dumped by her former husband–a good looking, tall guy with hair, who treated her like trash and left her for another woman.

Alone with two children, of course she was happy to marry Alfred E. Newman.

Her ego was trashed and she had two kids in tow. She was desperate for a daddy for her kids.

What first-class man would want her?

With or without my hair, I wouldn’t marry some other guy’s reject with kids.

Getting women is like any other economic exchange, like buying a car or a house.

If you haven’t a lot of money, sure you could buy an expensive looking house or car, providing the house is trashed on the inside and the car needs a totally new drive train.

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Ok, gentlemen. Please step away from the ledge.

First point: If you are a shaved-head 50-something who is in-shape and dresses well – according to my informal study done at Wal-Mart tonight – you are more attractive than about 95% of American 40-somethings and a decent percentage of 30-somethings.

Second point: The whole game when it comes attempting to look good is making the most out of our sorry excuse for bodies. That includes everyone, hairy or hairless. There are very, very, very few people who would not fall in the acceptable-to-attractive range if they were to get in-shape, dress well, not be a slob, and have some confidence.

I want to have hair – I wouldn’t be lurking around this place if I didn’t. But realistically, it’s not hard to get yourself in the top 50% of attractive males. Just don’t be a disgusting slob and you’ve beaten a majority of men out there. Really take an honest look at who you’re comparing yourself to.

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» Ok, gentlemen. Please step away from the ledge.
»
» First point: If you are a shaved-head 50-something who is in-shape and
» dresses well – according to my informal study done at Wal-Mart tonight –
» you are more attractive than about 95% of American 40-somethings and a
» decent percentage of 30-somethings.
»
» Second point: The whole game when it comes attempting to look good is
» making the most out of our sorry excuse for bodies. That includes everyone,
» hairy or hairless. There are very, very, very few people who would not fall
» in the acceptable-to-attractive range if they were to get in-shape, dress
» well, not be a slob, and have some confidence.
»
» I want to have hair – I wouldn’t be lurking around this place if I
» didn’t. But realistically, it’s not hard to get yourself in the top 50% of
» attractive males. Just don’t be a disgusting slob and you’ve beaten a
» majority of men out there. Really take an honest look at who you’re
» comparing yourself to.

Somebody with a brain…GREAT POST!

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» » » » » I don’t live my life caring what mere women think. If you do,
» » you’ll
» » » » » never attract and keep high quality women no matter how much hair
» » or
» » » »
» » » » Lies
» » »
» » » +1
» » »
» » » Of course women care about looks. You are living in a fantasy land
» if
» » you
» » » think they don’t. You are here because you care about yout looks. I
» » don’t
» » » think there’s anything abnormal about caring about your appearance.
» » »
» » » I remember some guy mentioning that he saw the science documentary
» NOVA
» » in
» » » the 80s and it said baldness would be cured in 10 years.
» » »
» » » I sometimes wonder around Walmart and I see bald guys trying to pick
» out
» » a
» » » good shirt or pant. I really wonder why. No matter what nice
» clothes
» » they
» » » wear, the uglyness is up top and cannot be changed. I personally
» don’t
» » » care about what I wear anymore because I don’t see how wearing a
» fancy
» » » shirt can change my appearance.
» » »
» » » I really hope we have a cure soon but if we don’t, I gotta start
» » thinking
» » » about how to cope with this sh&t for the rest of my young and middle
» » age
» » » life. I’ll give up hoping when I’m 50+.
» » »
» » » If you were a betting man and had to put your life saving’s on it,
» » would
» » » you bet that the cure will be out within the next 10 years (out as
» in
» » » you’ll be back to norwood 2)?
» »
» » Just got back from dinner at a restaurant where a very bald guy, NW 7
» (not
» » shaved - he had the telltale horseshoe of brown hair)…about 40…
» Sitting
» » with an extremely HOT young redhead and their children… I wondered,
» WTF?
» » That guy’s a lot balder than me. I bang a chick every once in awhile,
» but
» » never anything like that… Not since college, at least. Then I got up
» from
» » my table and stood to my full 5’10"…and he got up…he was at least
» 6’5"
» » and pretty well built.
» »
» » The I said to myself, “Oh.”
» »
» » It isn’t just hair, it’s a lot of things… And believe it or not,
» » personality is part of it, too. I’m just sayin’…
»
» I have a relative who is of average height, and looks like Alfred E.
» Newman, and who married a beautiful girl who looks like my ideal woman.
»
» But this woman was dumped by her former husband–a good looking, tall guy
» with hair, who treated her like trash and left her for another woman.
»
» Alone with two children, of course she was happy to marry Alfred E.
» Newman.
»
» Her ego was trashed and she had two kids in tow. She was desperate for a
» daddy for her kids.
»
» What first-class man would want her?
»
» With or without my hair, I wouldn’t marry some other guy’s reject with
» kids.
»
» Getting women is like any other economic exchange, like buying a car or a
» house.
»
» If you haven’t a lot of money, sure you could buy an expensive looking
» house or car, providing the house is trashed on the inside and the car
» needs a totally new drive train.

I agree with this post. The truth of the matter is that everyone wants the best they can get - hot girls, ugly girls, rich guys, poor guys. Of course, there are examples out there that defies such laws of societal standards, but these are the minority. For every Hugh Jackman (who has an unattractive wife), you have 50 Brad Pitts, who marry accordingly.
Therefore, given that hair is a large part of a person’s attractiveness, it’s pretty obvious that lacking hair will put a dent on your success in realizing your mating potential should you have hair. And the psychologically painful part is that hair is something that we are born with, become accustom to, then lose in often the most important periods of our mating window. It would only be natural that it would hurt one’s psychological well-being if he/she isn’t able to mate with the best possible candidate they can get. Anyone who states otherwise is just in denial.

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What I seek are strategies to cope with this sh&tty disease which i’m sure I’ll have to endure for the rest of my life.

How do you guys cope. The baldness issue is on my mind every waking moment of the day. Every time I enter a washroom and look in a mirror, I’m reminded of it and it brings me down. Everytime I see some lucky bast&rd with hair, I feel miserable and trapped. Meanwhile the clock is ticking and the best years of my life are passing me by.

Its really overwhelming at times and sometimes I almost can’t wait till my life is over when I’ll at least be rotting peacefully in the grave.

I would like to approach a certain girl at my workplace. But I fear I will be rejected because of this disease. I plan to get in shape based on the advice I’m seeing here to get my confidence up - and then see if I can bite the bullet and approach her. I hope you guys are right on this.

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The more you obsess over things you cannot control the sicker you’ll get.

» What I seek are strategies to cope with this sh&tty disease which i’m sure
» I’ll have to endure for the rest of my life.
»
» How do you guys cope. The baldness issue is on my mind every waking
» moment of the day. Every time I enter a washroom and look in a mirror, I’m
» reminded of it and it brings me down. Everytime I see some lucky bast&rd
» with hair, I feel miserable and trapped. Meanwhile the clock is ticking
» and the best years of my life are passing me by.
»
» Its really overwhelming at times and sometimes I almost can’t wait till my
» life is over when I’ll at least be rotting peacefully in the grave.
»
» I would like to approach a certain girl at my workplace. But I fear I
» will be rejected because of this disease. I plan to get in shape based on
» the advice I’m seeing here to get my confidence up - and then see if I can
» bite the bullet and approach her. I hope you guys are right on this.

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haha yea, he’s a complete scumbag… I wldnt marry another mans reject with kids??
With that attitude I hope you STAY bald… asshole.

» Wow, I totally forgot you’re an asshole.
» Thanks for the reminder, oh, and nice job demeaning women BTW.
»
» posted by Ahab, 21.11.2010, 23:35
» I have a relative who is of average height, and looks like Alfred E.
» Newman, and who married a beautiful girl who looks like my ideal woman.
»
» But this woman was dumped by her former husband–a good looking, tall guy
» with hair, who treated her like trash and left her for another woman.
»
» Alone with two children, of course she was happy to marry Alfred E.
» Newman.
»
» Her ego was trashed and she had two kids in tow. She was desperate for a
» daddy for her kids.
»
» What first-class man would want her?
»
» With or without my hair, I wouldn’t marry some other guy’s reject with
» kids.
»
» Getting women is like any other economic exchange, like buying a car or a
» house.
»
» If you haven’t a lot of money, sure you could buy an expensive looking
» house or car, providing the house is trashed on the inside and the car
» needs a totally new drive train.

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» Therefore, given that hair is a large part of a person’s attractiveness,
» it’s pretty obvious that lacking hair will put a dent on your success in
» realizing your mating potential should you have hair. And the
» psychologically painful part is that hair is something that we are born
» with, become accustom to, then lose in often the most important periods of
» our mating window. It would only be natural that it would hurt one’s
» psychological well-being if he/she isn’t able to mate with the best
» possible candidate they can get. Anyone who states otherwise is just in
» denial.

Sure, you get dinged some points for the hair. You’ll just have to step it up in other areas. I guarantee you that nearly no one on this board has likely maxed-out their other potential avenues for attractiveness. And what of those other areas? Is it a tragedy if being bald motivates you to get a six-pack, learn to play guitar, and get a motorcycle?

Check out this thread I found a few years back: List some specific, widely held, possibly irrational turn-ons. - attraction women men | Ask MetaFilter I’ve used it as a reference whenever I need to realize that as much as I’d like hair, there are things I’m not doing that could make me more attractive to compensate. If you forgo those things and instead spend your time moping about lost hair, it’s like leaving money on the table.

If this were a forum a more unusual deformity, like missing parts of one’s face, I would concede your point. Sure, there are things that are total dealbreakers. Baldness is not one of them. Not even close.

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Both Jakeb and FightingFalcon make some really good points.

Worrying about women not liking you because of hair line is the equivalent of some cowboy that worries about a girl not liking him because he’s doesn’t have a corporate job.

Bottom line: You’ll never have everyone that wants/likes you. NEVER. The most important person you have to worry about liking you is YOU.

The original poster and Ahab need therapy more than they need hair.

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» What I seek are strategies to cope with this sh&tty disease which i’m sure
» I’ll have to endure for the rest of my life.
»
»
» Its really overwhelming at times and sometimes I almost can’t wait till my
» life is over when I’ll at least be rotting peacefully in the grave.
»
» I would like to approach a certain girl at my workplace. But I fear I
» will be rejected because of this disease.

If you had a full head of hair the girl would probably still reject you because your attitude sucks - really!

What you need is a bout of cancer to really understand what is a real disease.