» Hi Baldie
»
» Have a look at this picture of my donor which is slightly blurry but you
» can clearly see the fue white dot/scars.
»
» http://www.pb-hair.co.uk/webblogs/bigmac/6.jpg
»
» I am going to compile a post together as imo this post is not stating all
» the facts.
»
» Anyone who wants to see a good donor scar closure just have a look at my
» thread below which has graphic pictures of a strip transplant.
»
» In the meantime i would like to see pictures of the donor area of fit/cit
» patients immediately post op and if you have them one year shaved down.
»
» Once my scar heals i will gladly shave it down and post pictures as i
» intend to document my ht journey from start to finish.
bigmac,
Here are a few donor areas showing matured healing. These patients came back to us after the procedure so we examined the donor areas. Before the procedure, the patients are told that every time an incision is made in the human body, a scar will occur, although every effort will be made to make the extraction sites as inconspicuous as possible. Patients should be sure that they understand the advantages and risks before choosing any course of treatment. As I said before, what do strip clinic tell individuals in regard to donor area healing?
Nice promotional video but doesn`t actually show any real close up shots like you posted of that scar.
Can you post pictures of your patients with the same quality and also explain to me what the difference is between cit/fit and fue.
Also the punch size you use.
Please dont say its a trade secret though as every patient or prospective patient surely has a right to know.You clearly state what does a strip doctor not tell you so please tell me the answer to my simple questions.
» Hi Cit
»
» Nice promotional video but doesn`t actually show any real close up shots
» like you posted of that scar.
» Can you post pictures of your patients with the same quality and also
» explain to me what the difference is between cit/fit and fue.
» Also the punch size you use.
» Please dont say its a trade secret though as every patient or prospective
» patient surely has a right to know.You clearly state what does a strip
» doctor not tell you so please tell me the answer to my simple questions.
»
» Thanks bigmac.
Consistent quality results, instrumentation, and technique! Here is a quality collage or two showing clear before and after results in a donor.
Thanks for those pictures,the donor area looks good.
Do you have any immediate post op pictures of this patient,also his recipient area and his 7 months growth pictures.
I ask a lot of questions and you have totally ignored my earlier questiond on the difference and punch size.
Also on your video you claim grey/white hairs cant be seen under a microscope when dissecting a strip.This is not true and i will post pictures that show they can be seen and most top clinics add a dye so they are even easier to be seen.
Forgot to ask you how many grafts were extracted from this patient and what norwood level would you say he is.
Looking at his pictures i would say he is at least a 5+.
» Thanks for those pictures,the donor area looks good.
» Do you have any immediate post op pictures of this patient,also his
» recipient area and his 7 months growth pictures.
» I ask a lot of questions and you have totally ignored my earlier questiond
» on the difference and punch size.
»
» Also on your video you claim grey/white hairs cant be seen under a
» microscope when dissecting a strip.This is not true and i will post
» pictures that show they can be seen and most top clinics add a dye so they
» are even easier to be seen.
»
» Thanks again
Your welcome. Grey/white hairs can been seen under microscope but not as well as hairs that have more pigmentation. Obviously most clinics will add a dye to the base of the follicle for higher visibility of the FUs.
I apologize if you may not find my answer regarding instrument size to be acceptable. I can only disclose that the results and appearence of donors are acceptable and the donor areas are preserved appropriately in the best interests of the patients.
» Forgot to ask you how many grafts were extracted from this patient and what
» norwood level would you say he is.
» Looking at his pictures i would say he is at least a 5+.
This patient had 1300 grafts extracted from the donor area. I would say that he is about a Norwood 5 as well. In this case, the patient only agreed to release photos of the donor area and no other photos showing his top or frontal scalp. We are thankful to this patient for just allowing us to show the community the result. Unfortunately, not all of our patients want to be exposed online.
» » Forgot to ask you how many grafts were extracted from this patient and
» what
» » norwood level would you say he is.
» » Looking at his pictures i would say he is at least a 5+.
»
» This patient had 1300 grafts extracted from the donor area. I would say
» that he is about a Norwood 5 as well. In this case, the patient only
» agreed to release photos of the donor area and no other photos showing his
» top or frontal scalp. We are thankful to this patient for just allowing us
» to show the community the result. Unfortunately, not all of our patients
» want to be exposed online.
FUE! Beats strip guys. Dont let them sell ya!
mwinston
Thats your opinion and i`m pleased you feel this way
The purpose of this thread was to promote fue/cit against strip without CIT displaying all the facts.
Both procedures have there place.
»
» Your welcome. Grey/white hairs can been seen under microscope but not as
» well as hairs that have more pigmentation. Obviously most clinics will add
» a dye to the base of the follicle for higher visibility of the FUs.
»
» I apologize if you may not find my answer regarding instrument size to be
» acceptable. I can only disclose that the results and appearence of donors
» are acceptable and the donor areas are preserved appropriately in the best
» interests of the patients.
Hi CIT
Thanks for clarifying that these hairs can be seen so why on your promotional video does it say they cant
Quote CIT is a procedure for white or grey hair as it is impossible to see these hairs under a microscope strip dissection.
Here is a picture of white hairs under a microscope with strip dissection.
Now just to answer your earlier question on what strip doctors dont tell you.
I had my fourth hair transplamt with Shapiro medical group.Im a well educated person on hair transplants due to all the research ive done over the last three years.When booking my HT with SMG i had to speak with Matt from SMG on the phone for over 30 minutes and he grilled me on what i wanted and what i could expect.
I was told by Matt the donor scar will be a fine line, you can expect to wear your hair at 1 cm in length. Some may be able to wear shorter depending on their density and how their hair shingles.This is what i already new though due to my research and it is what can be expected when you choose a top doctor to do your surgery.Not all doctors are equal and for every bad scar you show i can show bad fue pictures from doctors who aren`t so good.
Have a look at my Scar and you can see it is pencil thin at 10 days post op.
The picture has came out small but you can see it clearly on my HT post in this section.
Now could you please answer my question as to what is the difference between Cit/Fit/Fue as in my opinion they are the same.You also wont tell me the size of punch you use.
Lastly what was the reason the guy you posted pictures of only had 1300 grafts done on a NW5 as this will not do a lot in terms of coverage or density.In my opinion he would have been far better having a strip ht then doing fue afterwards.I had 1300 grafts placed in my thinning crown alone.Again have a look at my post.
I trust you can answer my questions and not skirt around the issue.
» »
» » Your welcome. Grey/white hairs can been seen under microscope but not
» as
» » well as hairs that have more pigmentation. Obviously most clinics will
» add
» » a dye to the base of the follicle for higher visibility of the FUs.
» »
» » I apologize if you may not find my answer regarding instrument size to
» be
» » acceptable. I can only disclose that the results and appearence of
» donors
» » are acceptable and the donor areas are preserved appropriately in the
» best
» » interests of the patients.
»
» Hi CIT
» Thanks for clarifying that these hairs can be seen so why on your
» promotional video does it say they cant
» Quote CIT is a procedure for white or grey hair as it is impossible to see
» these hairs under a microscope strip dissection.
this thread is about postop healing via strip. Will you show your donor at 1cm or less. This is and always was the purpose of the thread. Do you Belive matts words?
»
» Here is a picture of white hairs under a microscope with strip
» dissection.
»
»
»
»
»
» Now just to answer your earlier question on what strip doctors dont tell
» you.
» I had my fourth hair transplamt with Shapiro medical group.Im a well » educated person on hair transplants due to all the research ive done over
» the last three years.When booking my HT with SMG i had to speak with Matt
» from SMG on the phone for over 30 minutes and he grilled me on what i
» wanted and what i could expect.
» I was told by Matt the donor scar will be a fine line, you can expect to
» wear your hair at 1 cm in length. Some may be able to wear shorter
» depending on their density and how their hair shingles.This is what i
» already new though due to my research and it is what can be expected when
» you choose a top doctor to do your surgery.Not all doctors are equal and
» for every bad scar you show i can show bad fue pictures from doctors who
» aren`t so good.
» Have a look at my Scar and you can see it is pencil thin at 10 days post
» op.
» The picture has came out small but you can see it clearly on my HT post in
» this section.
»
»
»
» Now could you please answer my question as to what is the difference
» between Cit/Fit/Fue as in my opinion they are the same.You also wont tell
» me the size of punch you use.
»
» Lastly what was the reason the guy you posted pictures of only had 1300
» grafts done on a NW5 as this will not do a lot in terms of coverage or
» density.In my opinion he would have been far better having a strip ht then
» doing fue afterwards.I had 1300 grafts placed in my thinning crown
» alone.Again have a look at my post.
»
» I trust you can answer my questions and not skirt around the issue.
»
» Thanks bigmac
I have just checked my pre op instructions and made a note that Matt from SMG was on the phone for 50 minutes to me and not the 30 i said.
I would also like to add that Dr Shapiro went through everything with me on the day of surgery as what to expect and what the procedure is as well as examaning my head/hair.
This is what a reputable clinic/doctor will do and not hide anything from you.
Few spelling mistakes in my post before this one but i cant edit them now.
» I have just checked my pre op instructions and made a note that Matt from
» SMG was on the phone for 50 minutes to me and not the 30 i said.
» I would also like to add that Dr Shapiro went through everything with me
» on the day of surgery as what to expect and what the procedure is as well
» as examaning my head/hair.
»
» This is what a reputable clinic/doctor will do and not hide anything from
» you.
»
»
» Few spelling mistakes in my post before this one but i cant edit them now.
My question was do you expect to be able to go as low as 1cm and what to expect on your donor. I think Shapiro is reputable and I don’t question that.
My usual haircut is a #2 on the back and sides and i`m positive i will be able too do this without my SMG scar showing.It willl be interesting as i still have a norton scar below it to compare with which is visible.I will get that scar excised out or fue into it later.
» My usual haircut is a #2 on the back and sides and i`m positive i will be
» able too do this without my SMG scar showing.It willl be interesting as i
» still have a norton scar below it to compare with which is visible.I will
» get that scar excised out or fue into it later.
I sincerely hope that you are able to wear your hair in the style that you desire. It really isn’t a huge ordeal to get it grafted at 6 months or so but it may take 2 small sessions to make you happy. Best of luck;-)
Cit thanks for not answering any of the questions i asked you,it speaks volumes on your behalf and i hope anyone reading this thread will see that and realise they should not believe posts like yoursdissing strip as you choose to do fue.
Both have their place in todays HT society but you have basicly tried to dismiss strip as barbaric which it is not.
» Cit thanks for not answering any of the questions i asked you,it speaks
» volumes on your behalf and i hope anyone reading this thread will see that
» and realise they should not believe posts like yoursdissing strip as you
» choose to do fue.
» Both have their place in todays HT society but you have basicly tried to
» dismiss strip as barbaric which it is not.
I do think overall strip results are better than fue, the problem is that I can’t tell if it is because of the large # of grafts that are usually used in strip surgery or because it is true that strip yields are really better like what many said.
» »
» » Your welcome. Grey/white hairs can been seen under microscope but not
» as
» » well as hairs that have more pigmentation. Obviously most clinics will
» add
» » a dye to the base of the follicle for higher visibility of the FUs.
» »
» » I apologize if you may not find my answer regarding instrument size to
» be
» » acceptable. I can only disclose that the results and appearence of
» donors
» » are acceptable and the donor areas are preserved appropriately in the
» best
» » interests of the patients.
»
» Hi CIT
» Thanks for clarifying that these hairs can be seen so why on your
» promotional video does it say they cant
» Quote CIT is a procedure for white or grey hair as it is impossible to see
» these hairs under a microscope strip dissection.
»
» Here is a picture of white hairs under a microscope with strip
» dissection.
»
»
»
»
»
» Now just to answer your earlier question on what strip doctors dont tell
» you.
» I had my fourth hair transplamt with Shapiro medical group.Im a well » educated person on hair transplants due to all the research ive done over
» the last three years.When booking my HT with SMG i had to speak with Matt
» from SMG on the phone for over 30 minutes and he grilled me on what i
» wanted and what i could expect.
» I was told by Matt the donor scar will be a fine line, you can expect to
» wear your hair at 1 cm in length. Some may be able to wear shorter
» depending on their density and how their hair shingles.This is what i
» already new though due to my research and it is what can be expected when
» you choose a top doctor to do your surgery.Not all doctors are equal and
» for every bad scar you show i can show bad fue pictures from doctors who
» aren`t so good.
» Have a look at my Scar and you can see it is pencil thin at 10 days post
» op.
» The picture has came out small but you can see it clearly on my HT post in
» this section.
»
»
»
» Now could you please answer my question as to what is the difference
» between Cit/Fit/Fue as in my opinion they are the same.You also wont tell
» me the size of punch you use.
»
» Lastly what was the reason the guy you posted pictures of only had 1300
» grafts done on a NW5 as this will not do a lot in terms of coverage or
» density.In my opinion he would have been far better having a strip ht then
» doing fue afterwards.I had 1300 grafts placed in my thinning crown
» alone.Again have a look at my post.
»
» I trust you can answer my questions and not skirt around the issue.
»
» Thanks bigmac
Bigmac,
In this case, the patient had a high degree of hair loss with below average donor density. The patient was told that the ideal donor area typically has 180 hairs per square centimeter and that the case was not ideal. This particular patient desired to have conservative coverage on the front with a thinner look on the crown and requested that we use body hair as another donor source.
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