Here is another example of how strip (FUT) can have a negative impact on a donor area. The patient had 4 strip procedures performed at a well known clinic over a ten year period. After strip (FUT) method is performed, the patient can heal poorly even if the procedure was performed by a good physician. The photo below shows scars on the donor area from strip (FUT) harvesting and a more recent tricophytic closure. Many strip physicians promote tricophytic closure as the sure fire way to make a strip scar invisible. In this case, not only is the strip scar highly visible, the hair growth angles are distorted for the remainder of this patient’s life. You can clearly see that the scar actually shows surrounding hairs growing in an upward direction and downward direction. This patient is no longer a candidate for strip and is now a candidate for CIT. With CIT, we may harvest the resources from the entire donor area without destroying the typical percentage of surrounding follicles. Fewer transplanted grafts will be necessary to achieve a natural looking result and the patient will have the option to wear a much shorter hair style. Now the patient wishes that he’d never had the strip procedure ever done as the benefits of CIT far exceed the adverse effects of the strip procedure to the donor area.
» Here is another example of how strip (FUT) can have a negative impact on a
» donor area. The patient had 4 strip procedures performed at a well known
» clinic over a ten year period. After strip (FUT) method is performed, the
» patient can heal poorly even if the procedure was performed by a good
» physician. The photo below shows scars on the donor area from strip (FUT)
» harvesting and a more recent tricophytic closure. Many strip physicians
» promote tricophytic closure as the sure fire way to make a strip scar
» invisible. In this case, not only is the strip scar highly visible, the
» hair growth angles are distorted for the remainder of this patient’s life.
» You can clearly see that the scar actually shows surrounding hairs growing
» in an upward direction and downward direction. This patient is no longer a
» candidate for strip and is now a candidate for CIT. With CIT, we may
» harvest the resources from the entire donor area without destroying the
» typical percentage of surrounding follicles. Fewer transplanted grafts will
» be necessary to achieve a natural looking result and the patient will have
» the option to wear a much shorter hair style. Now the patient wishes that
» he’d never had the strip procedure ever done as the benefits of CIT far
» exceed the adverse effects of the strip procedure to the donor area.
»
»
»
terrible scar
also a perfect example of guys who say, strip does not reduce donor density, look at the hair surrounding the scar area, its almost bald
» » Here is another example of how strip (FUT) can have a negative impact on
» a
» » donor area. The patient had 4 strip procedures performed at a well
» known
» » clinic over a ten year period. After strip (FUT) method is performed,
» the
» » patient can heal poorly even if the procedure was performed by a good
» » physician. The photo below shows scars on the donor area from strip
» (FUT)
» » harvesting and a more recent tricophytic closure. Many strip physicians
» » promote tricophytic closure as the sure fire way to make a strip scar
» » invisible. In this case, not only is the strip scar highly visible, the
» » hair growth angles are distorted for the remainder of this patient’s
» life.
» » You can clearly see that the scar actually shows surrounding hairs
» growing
» » in an upward direction and downward direction. This patient is no longer
» a
» » candidate for strip and is now a candidate for CIT. With CIT, we may
» » harvest the resources from the entire donor area without destroying the
» » typical percentage of surrounding follicles. Fewer transplanted grafts
» will
» » be necessary to achieve a natural looking result and the patient will
» have
» » the option to wear a much shorter hair style. Now the patient wishes
» that
» » he’d never had the strip procedure ever done as the benefits of CIT far
» » exceed the adverse effects of the strip procedure to the donor area.
» »
» »
» »
»
»
» terrible scar
»
» also a perfect example of guys who say, strip does not reduce donor
» density, look at the hair surrounding the scar area, its almost bald
It’s the lack of hair in the scar and the contrast in skin color that makes it so noticeable. The whitish-pink scar tone stands out from beige skin tone. Tricophytic closure will still show if the donor area is shaved down low. This is just the apparent downside of strip.
In strip, the donor area is decreased and the patient’s donor area is subject to the same disadvantages as a scalp reduction. This is why you rarely see strip donor photos with patients shaved down below a #2 guard. One millimeter strip scars are not very common.
as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do
can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is the same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich the ends together
i say this is physically impossible…unless you are only counting hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount that you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a huge scar with zero density
» as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do
» can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is the
» same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich the ends
» together
»
» i say this is physically impossible…unless you are only counting
» hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount that
» you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a huge scar
» with zero density,
I think i had shockloss around mine scar too and don’t think it all come back, so that added to my laxity that is almost nil in areas it has really changed my donor.
» as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do
» can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is the
» same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich the ends
» together
»
» i say this is physically impossible…unless you are only counting
» hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount that
» you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a huge scar
» with zero density
I was the one who said that. It is possible if the strip is done right, have you seen some of Hasson/Wong pictures? There is practically no gaps in the donor and no loss of density since the two ends are stitched together.
» » as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do
» » can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is
» the
» » same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich the
» ends
» » together
» »
» » i say this is physically impossible…unless you are only
» counting
» » hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount
» that
» » you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a huge
» scar
» » with zero density
»
» I was the one who said that. It is possible if the strip is done right,
» have you seen some of Hasson/Wong pictures? There is practically no gaps
» in the donor and no loss of density since the two ends are stitched
» together.
»
»
to the naked eye it might appear no density loss but this is physically impossible
you cannot remove 20 percent of the hair in an area of skull, and retain the ddensity in that area
physically impossible
this also coincides with the theory that you have to lose 50 percent of the density in an area before hair loss becomes noticeable
so if you did lose lets say 20 percent of the density in the donor area afterwards you would not be able to detect it with the naked eye, but it would still be less
» » » as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do
» » » can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is
» » the
» » » same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich
» the
» » ends
» » » together
» » »
» » » i say this is physically impossible…unless you are only
» » counting
» » » hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount
» » that
» » » you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a
» huge
» » scar
» » » with zero density
» »
» » I was the one who said that. It is possible if the strip is done right,
» » have you seen some of Hasson/Wong pictures? There is practically no
» gaps
» » in the donor and no loss of density since the two ends are stitched
» » together.
» »
» »
»
»
» to the naked eye it might appear no density loss but this is physically
» impossible
»
» you cannot remove 20 percent of the hair in an area of skull, and retain
» the ddensity in that area
» physically impossible
»
» this also coincides with the theory that you have to lose 50 percent of
» the density in an area before hair loss becomes noticeable
»
» so if you did lose lets say 20 percent of the density in the donor area
» afterwards you would not be able to detect it with the naked eye, but it
» would still be less
A small percentage of correctly performed strips will actually produce a pencil thin scar. The rest of them would still need FUE into the scar just so they could hopefully buzz come close to a 3 guard. Strip doesn’t allow patients to wear a short hair style or come close to a #1 guard hair cut.
The actual donor density is not the same after any harvesting. You must focus on the entire donor area and not just the location above and below the strip harvest. Density is multiplied by the size of the donor area to yeild the total donor resource. The patient will have stretching over the entire scalp but more so at the site of the strip harvest.
What is this patient’s density and what resource can be harvested from strip?
» we had a huge discussion with guys INSISTING that strip is capable of not
» decreasing density in the donor area
»
» i said this is physically impossible but , the issue was never resolved
»
» thanks for adding one to the side of sanity
I concur, strip puts a minus on density. No matter how good a strip looks, it moves the donor in different directions.
» we had a huge discussion with guys INSISTING that strip is capable of not
» decreasing density in the donor area
»
» i said this is physically impossible but , the issue was never resolved
»
» thanks for adding one to the side of sanity
This thread is definitely open for discussion. Here is patient who wears a short hair style and has unacceptable scarring. Most strip scars will look very similar to this patient’s scar. While it is acceptible for some, we tend to think that patients shouldn’t have to deal with a scar that can widen over time. To this day, younger patients are still being cornered into getting strips at young ages before they discover a better procedure.
» » Do you know why strip scars stretch? Clearly it doesn’t happen to every
» » strip patient, so why does some stretch and others don’t?
»
» scalp laxity or lack thereof
I read it somewhere that staples instead of regular sutures work better at closing the donor and preventing the scar from widening.
» » » Do you know why strip scars stretch? Clearly it doesn’t happen to
» every
» » » strip patient, so why does some stretch and others don’t?
» »
» » scalp laxity or lack thereof
»
» I read it somewhere that staples instead of regular sutures work better at
» closing the donor and preventing the scar from widening.
what do strip clinics tell patients about healing in the donor area?
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