Will you go for acell asap after we know it works?

Stem cell; cell based hair therapy
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lets assume in 3-4 months we know that acell works for hair. you can regrow your donor with it. now we have discussed that it may give you cancer.

will you go for it in 4 month (maybe it even takes a bit longer, but at least not years)?

i won’t go for it until i know it doesnt make cancer definatley.

anyway, another problems is costs. a nw 6-7 loses about 50,000 hairs = 25,000 grafts. so you need 25,000 * 3 $ (if you go for strip) = 75,000 $.

it will definatley not be cheap. and i dont think costs of a ht will go down just coz of there is acell. i think moreley, costs will go up at the top docs, coz more people (with money) will go for ht, since they can archive a full head of hair.

well anyway, if acell doesnt work for hair, these thoughts are irrelevent.

so will you go for it, just after it is proven to work?

not that you understand me wrong. i will go for it when i know its safe. else i wouldnt be here, reading about it.

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This guy has no life and is not very bright:

posted by Sceptic, 30.07.2008, 17:11

See my response to Mr. Blah, Willy, the problem is that when somebody don’t agree with you the believers, then you become very uncomfortable and aggressive and then you start your nonsenses and childish and old typical remarks … Listen to this, if you like it or not : Acell is a joke ( for hair disorders, I mean ) … yes, a joke, you can call one, two, or a million doctors, it will be the same … it’s a joke, it’s not their purpose/indication to cure this cosmetic disease. Follica is another kind of thing, and I have a lot of doubts about it, but it is indicated for hair loss/growth, not to mention HM, which is real science with a lot of background behind it, but it looks that things are slower that we’d liked, don’t you think, willy ?

posted by Sceptic, 30.07.2008, 17:36

I’m NW2, I think, with a damaged hairline and my temples need to be refilled, propecia has been very good to me, it stopped my hairloss or slowed it down very much, toppik/nanogen is very useful too, with it my hair loss is not very noticeable, but yes I want my old hairline and my old density on the temples, my opinion is that the options are ( in this order ) :

1 ) HM ( yes, I know the Gho/intercytex/etc thing has been dissapointed by the moment )
2 ) Follica
3 ) unknown

Some topicals ( minoxidil, etc ) may be useful, but I don’t know if it does worth the trouble , maybe I will try minoxidil for some months, retinoic acid too

In one post he says that Acell is a “joke and it’s not their purpose/indication to cure this cosmetic disease” but in another post, he claims that “propecia has been very good to me”.

Unless I’m wrong, propecia was derived from proscar which was originally used for prostate cancer. I doubt if it was developed for prostate cancer that it was their purpose/indication to cure this cosmetic disease either.

toppik…lol

More useful posts from this member:

posted by Sceptic, 21.07.2008, 08:34

I will run a new business, uv cabins for baldies, I will give them some pills, egfr inhibitors instead of vitamins, I’m gonna be rich very soon.

HOw is this supposed to work (Hair Multiplication & Research)
posted by Sceptic, 30.07.2008, 14:25

and then … do you think they know the magic words that have to be pronounced ?

posted by Sceptic, 28.07.2008, 16:40

» When we can expect results about hair?
»
» thanks…

tomorrow at 10:00AM

I’m not making any guarantees about Acell, but I will definately guarantee that this guy is not very bright and comes to a site like this because he has nothing better to do.

Take Care,
Bill

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:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

:stuck_out_tongue:

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» This guy has no life and is not very bright:
»
»
»
» posted by Sceptic, 30.07.2008, 17:11
»
» See my response to Mr. Blah, Willy, the problem is that when somebody
» don’t agree with you the believers, then you become very uncomfortable and
» aggressive and then you start your nonsenses and childish and old typical
» remarks … Listen to this, if you like it or not : Acell is a joke ( for
» hair disorders, I mean ) … yes, a joke, you can call one, two, or a
» million doctors, it will be the same … it’s a joke, it’s not their
» purpose/indication to cure this cosmetic disease. Follica is another kind
» of thing, and I have a lot of doubts about it, but it is indicated for hair
» loss/growth, not to mention HM, which is real science with a lot of
» background behind it, but it looks that things are slower that we’d liked,
» don’t you think, willy ?
»
»
»
»
» posted by Sceptic, 30.07.2008, 17:36
»
» I’m NW2, I think, with a damaged hairline and my temples need to be
» refilled, propecia has been very good to me, it stopped my hairloss or
» slowed it down very much, toppik/nanogen is very useful too, with it my
» hair loss is not very noticeable, but yes I want my old hairline and my old
» density on the temples, my opinion is that the options are ( in this order
» ) :
»
» 1 ) HM ( yes, I know the Gho/intercytex/etc thing has been dissapointed by
» the moment )
» 2 ) Follica
» 3 ) unknown
»
» Some topicals ( minoxidil, etc ) may be useful, but I don’t know if it
» does worth the trouble , maybe I will try minoxidil for some months,
» retinoic acid too
»
»
»
» In one post he says that Acell is a “joke and it’s not their
» purpose/indication to cure this cosmetic disease” but in another post, he
» claims that “propecia has been very good to me”.
»
» Unless I’m wrong, propecia was derived from proscar which was originally
» used for prostate cancer. I doubt if it was developed for prostate cancer
» that it was their purpose/indication to cure this cosmetic disease either.
»
»
» toppik…lol
»
»
»
»
» More useful posts from this member:
»
»
» posted by Sceptic, 21.07.2008, 08:34
»
» I will run a new business, uv cabins for baldies, I will give them some
» pills, egfr inhibitors instead of vitamins, I’m gonna be rich very
» soon.
»
»
» HOw is this supposed to work (Hair Multiplication &
» Research)
» posted by Sceptic, 30.07.2008, 14:25
»
» and then … do you think they know the magic words that have to be
» pronounced ?
»
»
» posted by Sceptic, 28.07.2008, 16:40
»
» » When we can expect results about hair?
» »
» » thanks…
»
» tomorrow at 10:00AM
»
»
»
» I’m not making any guarantees about Acell, but I will definately guarantee
» that this guy is not very bright and comes to a site like this because he
» has nothing better to do.
»
» Take Care,
» Bill

I dont understand!? what do sceptic posts have to do with my post? could you please clear this!

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this is a strange post, I suspect that you can’t place your own posts properly, and on the other side, it seems that you are obsessing about me; but don’t worry, I can dedicate you some minutes. Let’s see …

» This guy has no life and is not very bright:

thanks, willy.

» In one post he says that Acell is a “joke and it’s not their
» purpose/indication to cure this cosmetic disease”

and I’m right, sorry

» but in another post, he
» claims that “propecia has been very good to me”.

yes, to me and to a lot of people

» Unless I’m wrong,

and don’t doubt that you are, of course, let’s see …

» propecia was derived from proscar which was originally
» used for prostate cancer.

very very bad, Willy, proscar is used for treating benign prostatic hyperplasia, not prostate cancer

» I doubt if it was developed for prostate cancer
» that it was their purpose/indication to cure this cosmetic disease either.

there is a guy called Bryan Shelton, he sometimes post at the topical forum here, ask him if Merck knew when they commercialized proscar that it would be useful for hair loss … because yes, they knew it, you don’t know ? … what a surprise !! But it is even irrelevant, propecia is indicated for hair loss, period.

»
»
» toppik…lol
»
»
»
»
» More useful posts from this member:
»
»
» posted by Sceptic, 21.07.2008, 08:34
»
» I will run a new business, uv cabins for baldies, I will give them some
» pills, egfr inhibitors instead of vitamins, I’m gonna be rich very
» soon.

you would be a client, I’m sure :smiley:

»
»
» HOw is this supposed to work (Hair Multiplication &
» Research)
» posted by Sceptic, 30.07.2008, 14:25
»
» and then … do you think they know the magic words that have to be
» pronounced ?
»
»
» posted by Sceptic, 28.07.2008, 16:40
»
» » When we can expect results about hair?
» »
» » thanks…
»
» tomorrow at 10:00AM
»
»
»
» I’m not making any guarantees about Acell, but I will definately guarantee
» that this guy is not very bright and comes to a site like this because he
» has nothing better to do.

maybe you’re right, Willy, because please believe me, to read something from guys like you is very very amusing :stuck_out_tongue:

» Take Care,
» Bill

Thanks in advance, Willy.

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» I dont understand!? what do sceptic posts have to do with my post? could
» you please clear this!

I’m sure that is because of his brightness :slight_smile:

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Sceptic do us all a favour will ya?

Get lost!

We don’t need people with this kind of attitude around here. Get a grip mate, this forum is about HM and all the other potential treatments/cures available on the market.

You are trying to ridicule one of the very few members around here that is actually moving his arse and being proactive instead of just sitting back and waiting for a miracle cure.

You question the safety and efficacy of Acell yet you seem pretty happy take the defense of an harmful product such as propecia. I bet you are one of those people that feel safe and secure when they read that a medicine has been approved by the FDA.

Ridiculous!

You might as well undergo chemotherapy, use celebrex and vioxx or eat plenty of GMO foods and wash it all down with some monsanto’s milk. You never know… maybe the growth ormone (FDA approved) will improve your understanding of things and enlarge your views.

Propecia might also help to decrease the size of your ego (along with the size of your penis)

Kind regards

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» lets assume in 3-4 months we know that acell works for hair. you can regrow
» your donor with it. now we have discussed that it may give you cancer.
»
» will you go for it in 4 month (maybe it even takes a bit longer, but at
» least not years)?
»
» i won’t go for it until i know it doesnt make cancer definatley.
»
» anyway, another problems is costs. a nw 6-7 loses about 50,000 hairs =
» 25,000 grafts. so you need 25,000 * 3 $ (if you go for strip) = 75,000 $.
»
» it will definatley not be cheap. and i dont think costs of a ht will go
» down just coz of there is acell. i think moreley, costs will go up at the
» top docs, coz more people (with money) will go for ht, since they can
» archive a full head of hair.
»
» well anyway, if acell doesnt work for hair, these thoughts are irrelevent.
»
»
» so will you go for it, just after it is proven to work?
»
» not that you understand me wrong. i will go for it when i know its safe.
» else i wouldnt be here, reading about it.

I don’t care what it costs. I care if it works. However, I would expect that we would basically be getting a Flemming/Meyers type of flap surgery and we would do it twice instead of once and then there would be some touching up. I think that could cost $50,000 to $100,000. But if Acell will replenish a depleted donor area (after the donor area has been harvested of its’ avail donor area) then it will be worth it. You will have a full head of hair that is beautiful and women will go nuts over you again.

We’re back in business guys!!! The stud business that is!!!

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» Sceptic do us all a favour will ya?
»
» Get lost!

Kind words, my best wishes to you too

» We don’t need people with this kind of attitude around here.

we ? OTOH, I’m liking this place, sometimes it’s funny, why must i go ?

» Get a grip
» mate, this forum is about HM and all the other potential treatments/cures
» available on the market.
»
» You are trying to ridicule

not at all, but if you let me defend myself I will thank you very much, I wasn’t the one who force him to say that proscar was indicated for prostate cancer, the guy clearly doesn’t know what he is talking about

» one of the very few members around here that is
» actually moving his arse and being proactive instead of just sitting back
» and waiting for a miracle cure.

and when I said something about him before he began to say pleasant things about me ? never

» You question the safety and efficacy of Acell

I said nothing about the safety

» yet you seem pretty happy
» take the defense of an harmful product such as propecia.

not at all, propecia works, it’s proved, maybe not for some people, but it has some risks and I realize about these risks and accept them. Fortunately, I haven’t had any side effects from it, but the risks are always there, we don’t even know some of them. I don’t like it very much, but it’s one of the few things that we have.

» I bet you are one
» of those people that feel safe and secure when they read that a medicine
» has been approved by the FDA.
»
» Ridiculous!
»
» You might as well undergo chemotherapy, use celebrex and vioxx or eat
» plenty of GMO foods and wash it all down with some monsanto’s milk. You
» never know… maybe the growth ormone (FDA approved) will improve your
» understanding of things and enlarge your views.

Sorry, I can’t understand anything

» Propecia might also help to decrease the size of your ego (along with the
» size of your penis)»
» Kind regards

Thank you for your interest about me, bye.

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» I don’t care what it costs. I care if it works. However, I would expect
» that we would basically be getting a Flemming/Meyers type of flap surgery
» and we would do it twice instead of once and then there would be some
» touching up. I think that could cost $50,000 to $100,000. But if Acell
» will replenish a depleted donor area (after the donor area has been
» harvested of its’ avail donor area) then it will be worth it. You will
» have a full head of hair that is beautiful and women will go nuts over you
» again.
»
» We’re back in business guys!!! The stud business that is!!!

I’d suggest that you Don’t get excited too much, because ACELL hasn’t grown a single hair on humans yet. Just wait and watch, if Doctors reports success then feel free to be happy, otherwise the bad news would hit you quite hard!

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Not meant to you helpme

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Agreed.

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Point Proven

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I knew it. I bloody knew it man. I’m not really surprised that you didn’t get the part concerning Monsanto, Celebrex, Vioxx and Posillac. I bet you never heard these names before.

Well let me educate you about some disconcerting facts that involve the so called ‘proved’ medicines and treatments approved by the FDA.

This institution has been known for many many years to suffer from the ‘revolving doors’ syndrome.

This basically means that the Big pharma routenly send their managers to work for the FDA or conversely they promise very good jobs within their companies (as a reward) for existing FDA employers that hold key positions in the regulatory process.

There are hundreds of products out there that are carcinogenic, extremely harmful and potentially lethal. Despite this they got full approval from the FDA. Once you know how to skew or rig a given efficacy/safety test, the rest is a piece of cake. In order to accomplish this you just need enough money, power and influence.

You seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that these things have been happening for years and there is no product that is safe and 100% effective. This is because we moved from a type of medicine that was natural (with little if any side effects) to one that is synthesized (in order to be patented).

This is why I got so mad at your comment. Maybe I overeacted. The fact is that real progress and evolution is being held back for financial reasons. Hairloss is no exception.

Let’s work together on this one Sceptic! afterall we are the only ones really interested in finding a permanent, efficient and safe solution to baldness.

Regards,

Piperz

Ps

I’m glad you are not experiencing any bad side effects from propecia. Most of my friends have experienced dizzyness,temporary impotence, nausea and even respiratory problems. Needless to say they stopped taking propecia for good.

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you are right, helpme.
Even if Acell works, cost is going to be huge.
And we will depend on the artistic skills of the surgeon.
If the surgeon is bad, then your hair will look crappy even if you have a lot of hair.
So you will need to go to a top doc.
And 20.000 hairs from a top doc isn’t going to be cheap.

this, supposing, that there are no side effects.

Anyway, it would be a big step forward.