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#1

This is a funny picture but all seriousness… Excluding his legal issues concerning boys, I feel sad that physicians took his money over and over again because of his body dismorphic disorder. And what is more appauling is when you think about all of the folks in HT that were not told the truth.


#2

BHT has derived unrealistic expectations of great proportions. Folks are now beginning to find out that BHT is unpredictable at best. However, it has been hard to bring this to light. Why? Unrealistic expectations brought on by:

  1. Not studying the results properly.
  2. Mis-informing the patient.
  3. Callous and relentless marketing ploys.
  4. No documentation.
  5. No research using standard scientific methods.
  6. Poor use of judgement. Money driven.

I know that I left out many variabes to add to this but when you just look the few I listed, it makes one realize that this is hard to overcome.

Is BHT out the door? No. It needs to be studied and documented properly. Who needs to correct the BHT issues? The folks who performed numbers 1-6 above or any part of the numbers above.

What? Are you going to just sweep it under the rug and dismiss what you caused. Not as long as I live.


#3

» BHT has derived unrealistic expectations of great proportions. Folks are
» now beginning to find out that BHT is unpredictable at best. However, it
» has been hard to bring this to light. Why? Unrealistic expectations
» brought on by:
»
» 1. Not studying the results properly.
» 2. Mis-informing the patient.
» 3. Callous and relentless marketing ploys.
» 4. No documentation.
» 5. No research using standard scientific methods.
» 6. Poor use of judgement. Money driven.
»
» I know that I left out many variabes to add to this but when you just look
» the few I listed, it makes one realize that this is hard to overcome.
»
» Is BHT out the door? No. It needs to be studied and documented properly.
» Who needs to correct the BHT issues? The folks who performed numbers 1-6
» above or any part of the numbers above.
»
» What? Are you going to just sweep it under the rug and dismiss what you
» caused. Not as long as I live.

I think BHT is still in its infancy. I think its better for filler rather than the main source of an HT. But i know its the only option for some.


#4

If it grows.


#5

who cares, intercytex maybe able to skip phase 3 and go straight to commercialization, if that is the case, we will have hair multiplication before 2010, we can kiss bht goodbye !


#6

» who cares, intercytex maybe able to skip phase 3 and go straight to
» commercialization, if that is the case, we will have hair multiplication
» before 2010, we can kiss bht goodbye !

Don’t bet your bottom dollar on it, but more power to us all if it occurs and is successful.


#7


#8

How many documented growing BHT cases will it take for some folks to embrace BHT as less than “iffy”
(for those with good donor hair)?

Three cases were presented this month.
IMO, BHT is improving every month now.

Are there failures over the last few years? Yes.
But there are successes too.
Is BHT the same as head hair? No.
Am I talking like Donald Rumsfeld? Maybe. Lol.

Now beard hair is in the mix.
For scars, this could be key.

Something tells me we are going to see more and more cases presented as the year ends.

Also, IMO all HT’s points 1-6 also apply to regular HTs.

A small BHT test is the way to go when having FUE.
Wait a year and judge the results for yourself.

Happy growing.


#9

Yeah but I am focusing on how BHT was mis-handled… It has been 5 years. We should have had better predictability an statistics by now.


#10

Yeah but I am focusing on how BHT was mis-handled… It has been 5 years.
We should have had better predictability an statistics by now.

We do have better predictability - I think “usually crap” is a pretty fair summation :smiley:


#11

» This is a funny picture but all seriousness… Excluding his legal issues
» concerning boys, I feel sad that physicians took his money over and over
» again because of his body dismorphic disorder. And what is more appauling
» is when you think about all of the folks in HT that were not told the
» truth.
»

and what’s the truth?


#12

» and what’s the truth?

BHT has derived unrealistic expectations of great proportions. Folks are now beginning to find out that BHT is unpredictable at best. However, it has been hard to bring this to light. Why? Unrealistic expectations brought on by:

  1. Not studying the results properly.
  2. Mis-informing the patient.
  3. Callous and relentless marketing ploys.
  4. No documentation.
  5. No research using standard scientific methods.
  6. Poor use of judgement. Money driven.

#13

HT,

I think your point also applies to head-hair transplants.

Infomercials,etc.

This can be a dirty business as you know but…
There are good, ethical docs out there too.


#14

I think there are a few out there too. But the realization of this particular part of medicine is the fact that scum and money go hand and hand:

  1. Money drives this industry.
  2. Money protects the scum through hired lawyers.
  3. Money indirectly moderates this forum, which skews the truth of scum.
  4. Money is able to “hush” those that know the truth, by threats of lawyers protecting the scum.
  5. Money hires folks to work for the scum that posts as ghost posters for the scum.
  6. Scum posts lies in pictures and manipulated words.

Basically scum is everywhere. It is hard to overcome scum. Heck, in the last two days I have seen a jump in scum posting. But no one will know the right from the wrong because of money.

And that is my opinion derived from working in this industry… which is full of … yes you guessed it. Scum.


#15

» HT,
»
» I think your point also applies to head-hair transplants.
»
» Infomercials,etc.
»
» This can be a dirty business as you know but…
» There are good, ethical docs out there too.

My words exactly. How many guys will need to be repaired to be natually BALD!!!

I am a bit uncomfortable with Mike on this site. sorry


#16

» My words exactly. How many guys will need to be repaired to be natually
» BALD!!!
»
» I am a bit uncomfortable with Mike on this site. sorry

Who is “Mike”.

It is sad that folks have to worry about getting fixed from the previous horric transplants of the 80’s and 90’s.

Now you have to worry about where to go to find the truth… or worry about the “spins” the clinics put on the way they represent themselves, i.e. marketing schemes.

One thing to know is that everything comes out in the wash… The time it takes for things to come out in the wash in this industry is why clinics(scum clinics) get to live in a piggish lifestyle before it comes out.

Then the hair transplant correction occurs.

Then damage control from the money and scum relationship.

Then the cycle starts all over again.


#17

» » My words exactly. How many guys will need to be repaired to be natually
» » BALD!!!
» »
» » I am a bit uncomfortable with Mike on this site. sorry
»
» Who is “Mike”.
»
» It is sad that folks have to worry about getting fixed from the previous
» horric transplants of the 80’s and 90’s.
»
» Now you have to worry about where to go to find the truth… or worry
» about the “spins” the clinics put on the way they represent themselves,
» i.e. marketing schemes.
»
» One thing to know is that everything comes out in the wash… The time it
» takes for things to come out in the wash in this industry is why
» clinics(scum clinics) get to live in a piggish lifestyle before it comes
» out.
»
» Then the hair transplant correction occurs.
»
» Then damage control from the money and scum relationship.
»
» Then the cycle starts all over again.

i agree that body hair transplants probably dont grow more than they grow but we keep seeing more and more success cases.


#18

» Yeah but I am focusing on how BHT was mis-handled… It has been 5
» years.
» We should have had better predictability an statistics by now.

»
» We do have better predictability - I think “usually crap” is a pretty
» fair summation :smiley:

I think thats a harsh comment, we have seen more and more success stories from bht.


#19

hopefully, we will all know what the cause is for unpredictability with more reported test sessions being performed before hand.


#20

Michael Jackson’s face is amazing. A doctor near to the whole thing says MJ has had 50+ surgeries over the years. I can’t even imagine that.

There’s a nasty rumor that MJ’s whole nose had to be literally amputated during a recent emergency surgery to “save it” . . . I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I wouldn’t bet good money against the idea.

Everyone agrees that MJ’s been butchered at this point, but where do you actually draw the line?

If Jacko wanted to look “better” then it should have been drawn a LONG time ago. But Jacko probably wanted to look like HE wanted, and I’ll bet he wasn’t interested in anyone else’s input about what “better” was beyond his own opinion. If it’s not actually killing his tissue, then it becomes a judgement call about whether something is ethical or not. It’s not illegal to make someone uglier if they’re informed about what’s happening and they just want to be uglier.

The HT industry’s problem is one of deception about the results. It’s not quite the same thing as Jacko’s surgery (or at least Jacko’s earlier surgeries before he got REALLY nuts). I see the HT industry as being actually a lot worse than Jacko’s situation in a lot of ways.