No Joke. Sorry if I sound a little flippant but I guess only time will tell. I suggest that Hair Regeneration is the tip of the iceberg for this research breakthrough. I’ve said enough. I remain hopeful.
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» Sorry, are you a comic ?
»
» Do you think it or do you know it? Do you have some insider-information
» that we don´t have?
Stay tuned!
This is from an email I received from Trichoscience.
“The TrichoScience procedure is not yet commercially available and is subject to clinical trials followed by regulatory submission, review and approvals in Canada, Europe and the U.S. The TrichoScience procedure has been proven safe and effective in pre-clinical research and testing. Human trials have now commenced in Europe.”
Not one trial but trials. So we wont see this thing on the market for many many years. But on a positive note:
“The TrichoScience cellular replication and implantation technology is being developed to grow new hair follicles in previously bald skin. The company anticipates that the patent-pending procedure can also be used to rejuvenate damaged, miniaturized hair follicles in balding scalp skin.”
» No Joke. Sorry if I sound a little flippant but I guess only time will
» tell. I suggest that Hair Regeneration is the tip of the iceberg for this
» research breakthrough. I’ve said enough. I remain hopeful.
» »
» » Sorry, are you a comic ?
As I gussted it was rubbish wasting time,
» As I gussted it was rubbish wasting time,
I’ve said enough. Time will tell. Not going to post here again. We’ll just have to wait and see. Good luck.
» » Please gman, give us a little bit more info. What makes you so sure that this TRICHOSCIENCE is the “BIG DEAL”? Have you seen people who were already treated with this stuff?
» » Do you think it or do you know it? Do you have some insider-information
» » that we don´t have?
»
» Stay tuned!
by gman:Ok, Guys, take it from me and I am serious when I say this.
Haha,thanks for that man.If you say so then there’s no doubt that this company is legit and that we’ll all have full heads of hair in a couple of months.
» by gman:Ok, Guys, take it from me and I am serious when I say this.
»
» Haha,thanks for that man.If you say so then there’s no doubt that this
» company is legit and that we’ll all have full heads of hair in a couple of
» months.
yeah…
he is the gman with a huge G on his chest.
gman i am with you.
Gman are you the guy that calls often on radio?
» Believe me when I say this. Your point about the FDA is correct I think.
» It’s a legit group of people. I would suggest that your time frames might
» be a little off. I believe that it’s months away and not years. Hold on to
» your hats ladies and gents. It’s the real deal.
Love the way the play on words of their name goes, sounds like Trick O Science. Heh, makes me laugh, like its a big joke on us, anyways. All I know is we have seen maaaany of these stem cell applications by other companies work on mice, and then not in the same way on humans. I will wait and see.
» » Believe me when I say this. Your point about the FDA is correct I think.
» » It’s a legit group of people. I would suggest that your time frames
» might
» » be a little off. I believe that it’s months away and not years. Hold on
» to
» » your hats ladies and gents. It’s the real deal.
»
» Love the way the play on words of their name goes, sounds like Trick O
» Science. Heh, makes me laugh, like its a big joke on us, anyways. All I
» know is we have seen maaaany of these stem cell applications by other
» companies work on mice, and then not in the same way on humans. I will wait
» and see.
Yeah it’s not like “tricho” is a prefix meaning pertaining to hair or anything. It’s obviously an early April Fool’s joke.
» » » Believe me when I say this. Your point about the FDA is correct I
» think.
» » » It’s a legit group of people. I would suggest that your time frames
» » might
» » » be a little off. I believe that it’s months away and not years. Hold
» on
» » to
» » » your hats ladies and gents. It’s the real deal.
» »
» » Love the way the play on words of their name goes, sounds like Trick O
» » Science. Heh, makes me laugh, like its a big joke on us, anyways. All I
» » know is we have seen maaaany of these stem cell applications by other
» » companies work on mice, and then not in the same way on humans. I will
» wait
» » and see.
»
»
»
» Yeah it’s not like “tricho” is a prefix meaning pertaining to hair or
» anything. It’s obviously an early April Fool’s joke.
Who cares, I was being facetious. They need to realize mice and humans are not the same, keep the hype down, and prove the efficacy as long term results in human patients in large quantities. I have tons of friends doing phds in similar fields, or that are clinical profs or deans of medical faculties, ie my father being chief of staff of a cdn hospital and also a clinical prof. I have much respect for UBC, and know people there. Point being, mice =/ human, results are not even remotely the same. If I can bring man to land on the moon, does not mean I can make him land on jupiter…just because the planets are circular, does not mean their base matter is identical…ie human genom and mic genom…a prof does not excite me with his base findings, I have seen it and a million bs studies in my life…yawn. Whatever.
» » » Believe me when I say this. Your point about the FDA is correct I
» think.
» » » It’s a legit group of people. I would suggest that your time frames
» » might
» » » be a little off. I believe that it’s months away and not years. Hold
» on
» » to
» » » your hats ladies and gents. It’s the real deal.
» »
» » Love the way the play on words of their name goes, sounds like Trick O
» » Science. Heh, makes me laugh, like its a big joke on us, anyways. All I
» » know is we have seen maaaany of these stem cell applications by other
» » companies work on mice, and then not in the same way on humans. I will
» wait
» » and see.
»
»
»
» Yeah it’s not like “tricho” is a prefix meaning pertaining to hair or
» anything. It’s obviously an early April Fool’s joke.
Isn’t tricho a word used to describe hair?
Are these Pre-Clinical trials MOUSE TRIALS??
So, they are starting Phase I now.
Phase I is normally meant for safety, Phase II for efficacy, etc.
So, if they haven’t even started Phase I, how in the world do they say that it is safe and effective?
Pre-Clinical? Is that in mice?
do they mean it is safe and effective on MICE??
» This is from an email I received from Trichoscience.
»
» “The TrichoScience procedure is not yet commercially available and is
» subject to clinical trials followed by regulatory submission, review
» and approvals in Canada, Europe and the U.S. The TrichoScience procedure
» has been proven safe and effective in pre-clinical research and testing.
» Human trials have now commenced in Europe.”
»
» Not one trial but trials. So we wont see this thing on the market for many
» many years. But on a positive note:
»
» “The TrichoScience cellular replication and implantation technology is
» being developed to grow new hair follicles in previously bald skin.
» The company anticipates that the patent-pending procedure can also be used
» to rejuvenate damaged, miniaturized hair follicles in balding scalp skin.”
»
»
»
» » No Joke. Sorry if I sound a little flippant but I guess only time will
» » tell. I suggest that Hair Regeneration is the tip of the iceberg for
» this
» » research breakthrough. I’ve said enough. I remain hopeful.
» » »
» » » Sorry, are you a comic ?
» Are these Pre-Clinical trials MOUSE TRIALS??
» So, they are starting Phase I now.
» Phase I is normally meant for safety, Phase II for efficacy, etc.
» So, if they haven’t even started Phase I, how in the world do they say
» that it is safe and effective?
» Pre-Clinical? Is that in mice?
» do they mean it is safe and effective on MICE??
»
I think the press release says that they are Human Clinical Trials. I believe it means they are nearing the end of trials and have a viable product potentially coming to market very soon based on successful completion. I believe it will be conducted over a 4-6 month period from start of trials to release of data. Where as this is being done in Europe the regulatory process is different and I think the Human Clinical Trials are nearing the end of the process. There must be something up with this because they are seemingly looking forward to the distribution of licenses and marketability of a procedure. This is very encouraging for an eminent solution.
As for testing on mice, from what I understand about medical research, mice are consistently used in labs all over the world to test everything from human vaccines to drugs. Their biological make up is consistent with that of humans. I think I read somewhere that Trichoscience has been testing for many years (successfully) on mice and to see them move to a human test case again is very encouraging and tell us something very positive about their confidence in the process.
»
»
» » This is from an email I received from Trichoscience.
» »
» » “The TrichoScience procedure is not yet commercially available and is
» » subject to clinical trials followed by regulatory submission,
» review
» » and approvals in Canada, Europe and the U.S. The TrichoScience
» procedure
» » has been proven safe and effective in pre-clinical research and
» testing.
» » Human trials have now commenced in Europe.”
» »
» » Not one trial but trials. So we wont see this thing on the market for
» many
» » many years. But on a positive note:
» »
» » “The TrichoScience cellular replication and implantation technology is
» » being developed to grow new hair follicles in previously bald
» skin.
» » The company anticipates that the patent-pending procedure can also be
» used
» » to rejuvenate damaged, miniaturized hair follicles in balding scalp
» skin.”
» »
» »
» »
» » » No Joke. Sorry if I sound a little flippant but I guess only time
» will
» » » tell. I suggest that Hair Regeneration is the tip of the iceberg for
» » this
» » » research breakthrough. I’ve said enough. I remain hopeful.
» » » »
» » » » Sorry, are you a comic ?
This website was created March 13, 2006 (according to a whois search). This doesn’t mean they have a working procedure and it doesn’t mean they’re close to anything. Anybody can make a website. Intercytex has had a website for a long time. All of the websites like this read as if they have a working procedure and it seems to be for the benefit of giving them credibility to investors.
With that said, it’s always good to see a company working on this research and it’s great if they can obtain funds from investors to advance the cause. But this website means nothing as far as how soon the research will produce anything substantial. We’ve seen this is true from Dr. Gho, Dr. Bazan, Intercytex and even Aderans. All of them had or have websites claiming the cure is near.
» » Are these Pre-Clinical trials MOUSE TRIALS??
» » So, they are starting Phase I now.
» » Phase I is normally meant for safety, Phase II for efficacy, etc.
» » So, if they haven’t even started Phase I, how in the world do they say
» » that it is safe and effective?
» » Pre-Clinical? Is that in mice?
» » do they mean it is safe and effective on MICE??
» »
»
» I think the press release says that they are Human Clinical Trials. I
» believe it means they are nearing the end of trials and have a viable
» product potentially coming to market very soon based on successful
» completion. I believe it will be conducted over a 4-6 month period from
» start of trials to release of data. Where as this is being done in Europe
» the regulatory process is different and I think the Human Clinical Trials
» are nearing the end of the process. There must be something up with this
» because they are seemingly looking forward to the distribution of licenses
» and marketability of a procedure. This is very encouraging for an eminent
» solution.
They are just starting human trials Sept 09, that would be this month we are in. This means, they have no human trial data to base anything on. Every single other compnay using a similar approach has had very positive ideas based on their studies on animals, and they hyped their product early on based on a hypothesis of a similar human response. They need to prove this after they have done human trials, not just phase I for safety where they do a small area and have a minute response, but a full test of their hypothesis showing actual results expected in a marketeable sense. You cannot claim that you can market a result, if you have not yet proven the result ie a full head of hair. They cannot and will not be able to do this after a safety trial where they grow a few hairs. The hype needs to slow down, and they have ALOT to prove, and they are just starting on humans.
» As for testing on mice, from what I understand about medical research,
» mice are consistently used in labs all over the world to test everything
» from human vaccines to drugs. Their biological make up is consistent with
» that of humans. I think I read somewhere that Trichoscience has been
» testing for many years (successfully) on mice and to see them move to a
» human test case again is very encouraging and tell us something very
» positive about their confidence in the process.
I agree it is encouraging. Then again, so are the exact same results on mice at all of the other companies. Guess what, their results on humans have not yet shown positive enough results. So we should not assume anything, because we have seen from other testing that in regards to stem cell response on humans in relation to hair growth, has not been 1 for 1 as in mice. Mice grow hair well, humans so far have not been to prone to respond the same way. Wait, let them actually finish a round of real testing on humans of which they have only just started, and we shall see.
If they so much as try to bs their way for funds, I will personally carry on a campaign of breaking down their bs. I am tired of people clamoring for capital on the coatails of the next big thing, so as to create wealthy execs. They need to prove themselves first, and that would be as Histogen has to some extent with putting out some aspects of their trials. As of yet, Trick of Science does not deserve a dollar more until they do.
» »
» » » This is from an email I received from Trichoscience.
» » »
» » » “The TrichoScience procedure is not yet commercially available and is
» » » subject to clinical trials followed by regulatory submission,
» » review
» » » and approvals in Canada, Europe and the U.S. The TrichoScience
» » procedure
» » » has been proven safe and effective in pre-clinical research and
» » testing.
» » » Human trials have now commenced in Europe.”
» » »
» » » Not one trial but trials. So we wont see this thing on the market for
» » many
» » » many years. But on a positive note:
» » »
» » » “The TrichoScience cellular replication and implantation technology
» is
» » » being developed to grow new hair follicles in previously bald
» » skin.
» » » The company anticipates that the patent-pending procedure can also be
» » used
» » » to rejuvenate damaged, miniaturized hair follicles in balding scalp
» » skin.”
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » » No Joke. Sorry if I sound a little flippant but I guess only time
» » will
» » » » tell. I suggest that Hair Regeneration is the tip of the iceberg
» for
» » » this
» » » » research breakthrough. I’ve said enough. I remain hopeful.
» » » » »
» » » » » Sorry, are you a comic ?
The only thing I can think of to respond is that if these companies were in the business of creating websites they would be doing something completely different with the many credible skills that they have acquired over many years of scientific research. I might suggest that the websites are not high on the priority list.
oops… my mistake
» The only thing I can think of to respond is that if these companies were
» in the business of creating websites they would be doing something
» completely different with the many credible skills that they have acquired
» over many years of scientific research. I might suggest that the websites
» are not high on the priority list.
My point was that just because a website says they can do something, or will be able to do something, it’s not necessarily true. There’s a lot of false information on the internet. Also, this website reads as though the cure is here today and this could have read the same back in 2006, so you would think that by 2007 they would have been doing it already. This technology is permantly on hold until there’s some real advancements made, but we haven’t heard of anything new. The best thing I’ve seen is still done with hair transplants.
What credible skills that they’ve acquired over many years of scientific research are you refering to… the fact that they can grow a clump of hair on mice?