To demand nothing less than a full head of hair from a protocol is ridiculous. If Aderans can deliver a 20% increase in hair count, that would be AMAZING. Most of us are not slick bald. Most are NW2-4, which is to say, we still have a lot of hair, just not enough to look normal. A 20% increase would improve someone by two NW grades. That’s a great result. If Aderans can do that consistently, they’ve accomplished something significant and would have a commercially successful product. Hell, if they improve hair counts by 10% consistently, that’s something comparable to a great HT, with much less trauma or risk. You people need to recalibrate your expectations.
Agree to disagree, most people are here are wait for a breakthrough. Your on about a 10% increase and we should be happy? Propecia, minx and niz can achieve that alone.
»
» on about a 10% increase and we should be happy? Propecia, minx and niz can
» achieve that alone.
Not necessarily - a lot of people are poor responders to any one of those three. Even if they aren’t, having another protocol that adds ANOTHER 10-20% is huge; its a 33-66% over currently available results.
You people who are waiting for this mythical breakthrough that will restore a NW7 to a juvenile hairline are being unrealistic. Any protocol that can reliably induce a 10% or better increase in hair counts is an unqualified success.
I have to disagree.
NW#7-#1 may be an unrealistic expectation on the first release of a HM product. But it’s not an unrealistic hope and expectation in the foreseeable future.
All the balding hairs on the head are suffering from the same problem. If you can effectively solve that problem on the worst of them, then you should be able to bring the vast majority of them back.
If somebody like Aderans can (reliably) sprout a batch of new hairs on a long-balded piece of skin, then they should gradually be able to cover the whole head as long as the results are basically compoundable. It’s the same process, just repeated on a much larger scale.
I see no reason why this can’t be how things work. Just because we’re used to pissy little pathetic incremental improvements in MPB treatments so far, that does not mean we can’t leap giant strides ahead in the future.
» I have to disagree.
»
» NW#7-#1 may be an unrealistic expectation on the first release of a HM
» product. But it’s not an unrealistic hope and expectation in the
» foreseeable future.
»
»
»
»
» All the balding hairs on the head are suffering from the same problem. If
» you can effectively solve that problem on the worst of them, then you
» should be able to bring the vast majority of them back.
»
» If somebody like Aderans can (reliably) sprout a batch of new hairs on a
» long-balded piece of skin, then they should gradually be able to cover the
» whole head as long as the results are basically compoundable. It’s the
» same process, just repeated on a much larger scale.
»
» I see no reason why this can’t be how things work. Just because we’re
» used to pissy little pathetic incremental improvements in MPB treatments so
» far, that does not mean we can’t leap giant strides ahead in the future.
agree with cal!
» To demand nothing less than a full head of hair from a protocol is
» ridiculous. If Aderans can deliver a 20% increase in hair count, that
» would be AMAZING. Most of us are not slick bald. Most are NW2-4, which is
» to say, we still have a lot of hair, just not enough to look normal. A 20%
» increase would improve someone by two NW grades. That’s a great result.
» If Aderans can do that consistently, they’ve accomplished something
» significant and would have a commercially successful product. Hell, if
» they improve hair counts by 10% consistently, that’s something comparable
» to a great HT, with much less trauma or risk. You people need to
» recalibrate your expectations.
One problem with you logic…you’re assuming that all the people holding onto NW2, 3, 4 have hairloss that just stopped there. Which isn’t the case, all of them have stopped it using drugs like Propecia/Minoxidil and the moment they get off it, they are on their way to NW6-7 - some sooner, others later.
So if you’re fine with a 20% increase in hair, thats not a cure…you’d still have to take propecia for the foreseable future. I’m expecting for a cure that would regrow/maintain hair without have to take drugs or apply topicals. Me being a NW7…if ARI can regrow 20-30% hair that would provide me enough density to cover up my head. Remember ARI is Not reversing hairloss, so regrowth doesn’t have to be in NW5 -> NW4 -> NW3 etc fashion. In your first treatment you could possibly end with up a NW1-NW2 hairline, but with a lot less overall hair density.
» » To demand nothing less than a full head of hair from a protocol is
» » ridiculous. If Aderans can deliver a 20% increase in hair count, that
» » would be AMAZING. Most of us are not slick bald. Most are NW2-4, which
» is
» » to say, we still have a lot of hair, just not enough to look normal. A
» 20%
» » increase would improve someone by two NW grades. That’s a great result.
»
» » If Aderans can do that consistently, they’ve accomplished something
» » significant and would have a commercially successful product. Hell, if
» » they improve hair counts by 10% consistently, that’s something
» comparable
» » to a great HT, with much less trauma or risk. You people need to
» » recalibrate your expectations.
»
» One problem with you logic…you’re assuming that all the people holding
» onto NW2, 3, 4 have hairloss that just stopped there. Which isn’t the case,
» all of them have stopped it using drugs like Propecia/Minoxidil and the
» moment they get off it, they are on their way to NW6-7 - some sooner,
» others later.
»
» So if you’re fine with a 20% increase in hair, thats not a cure…you’d
» still have to take propecia for the foreseable future. I’m expecting for a
» cure that would regrow/maintain hair without have to take drugs or apply
» topicals. Me being a NW7…if ARI can regrow 20-30% hair that would provide
» me enough density to cover up my head. Remember ARI is Not reversing
» hairloss, so regrowth doesn’t have to be in NW5 -> NW4 -> NW3 etc fashion.
» In your first treatment you could possibly end with up a NW1-NW2 hairline,
» but with a lot less overall hair density.
But this would work with me. But it will reverse your hairloss and regenerates all your old sleeping follicles, so technically wou will get your regulare density
Exactly. If you only get 20% more hair (in the balding areas alone, not in the donor of course), and you have to keep taking drugs, that would be a dissaster. And who know, maybe you have to get injections every 2 years to keep this 20%, with all the unknown risks associated to cell therapy.
And remember that you have to use Minoxidil to get this 20% hair.
If you were already using Minox, the increase would be less than 20%.
» » To demand nothing less than a full head of hair from a protocol is
» » ridiculous. If Aderans can deliver a 20% increase in hair count, that
» » would be AMAZING. Most of us are not slick bald. Most are NW2-4, which
» is
» » to say, we still have a lot of hair, just not enough to look normal. A
» 20%
» » increase would improve someone by two NW grades. That’s a great result.
»
» » If Aderans can do that consistently, they’ve accomplished something
» » significant and would have a commercially successful product. Hell, if
» » they improve hair counts by 10% consistently, that’s something
» comparable
» » to a great HT, with much less trauma or risk. You people need to
» » recalibrate your expectations.
»
» One problem with you logic…you’re assuming that all the people holding
» onto NW2, 3, 4 have hairloss that just stopped there. Which isn’t the case,
» all of them have stopped it using drugs like Propecia/Minoxidil and the
» moment they get off it, they are on their way to NW6-7 - some sooner,
» others later.
»
» So if you’re fine with a 20% increase in hair, thats not a cure…you’d
» still have to take propecia for the foreseable future. I’m expecting for a
» cure that would regrow/maintain hair without have to take drugs or apply
» topicals. Me being a NW7…if ARI can regrow 20-30% hair that would provide
» me enough density to cover up my head. Remember ARI is Not reversing
» hairloss, so regrowth doesn’t have to be in NW5 -> NW4 -> NW3 etc fashion.
» In your first treatment you could possibly end with up a NW1-NW2 hairline,
» but with a lot less overall hair density.
You are stupid par excellence, nobody said something about using Minox for the rest of the life you idiot. Unknown Risks? Well the clearly stated that there wont be any side effects, you stupid retard, thats why they test this with minox and in future tims with Propecia to check this.
Actually i dont think that you read carefully what some posters are writing here. Cause you dont know anything about Minox you can only cry and keep bitc*ing around, thats all you can do, there is nothing more to you.
You are always crying like a litle girl, you know what go in the woods and bring some gallow with you cause we are all sick and tired of your self pitty crybaby bulls*it, its npt our fault that you cut all your social activities and have no money to do a HT.
Quote from Spanidh Idiot : And remember that you have to use Minoxidil to get this 20% hair.
» If you were already using Minox, the increase would be less than 20%."
You ar so full of it, where did you get those ground breaking informations? These are only your often claimed bullsh*t opinions where nobody cares any more.
You know what here are a lot of people who actually are smart, just to name a fw cal, Shooter, rev, Iron_Man but you are actually the lowest thing on the Intelligence Food Chain.
Stop starting your whiney Threads with all those “The FAIL” Bullcrap. The only ones who actually failed, your parents for not perform an abortion, thats it. End of Story.
» Exactly. If you only get 20% more hair (in the balding areas alone, not in
» the donor of course), and you have to keep taking drugs, that would be a
» dissaster. And who know, maybe you have to get injections every 2 years to
» keep this 20%, with all the unknown risks associated to cell therapy.
»
» And remember that you have to use Minoxidil to get this 20% hair.
» If you were already using Minox, the increase would be less than 20%.
»
» » » To demand nothing less than a full head of hair from a protocol is
» » » ridiculous. If Aderans can deliver a 20% increase in hair count,
» that
» » » would be AMAZING. Most of us are not slick bald. Most are NW2-4,
» which
» » is
» » » to say, we still have a lot of hair, just not enough to look normal.
» A
» » 20%
» » » increase would improve someone by two NW grades. That’s a great
» result.
» »
» » » If Aderans can do that consistently, they’ve accomplished something
» » » significant and would have a commercially successful product. Hell,
» if
» » » they improve hair counts by 10% consistently, that’s something
» » comparable
» » » to a great HT, with much less trauma or risk. You people need to
» » » recalibrate your expectations.
» »
» » One problem with you logic…you’re assuming that all the people
» holding
» » onto NW2, 3, 4 have hairloss that just stopped there. Which isn’t the
» case,
» » all of them have stopped it using drugs like Propecia/Minoxidil and the
» » moment they get off it, they are on their way to NW6-7 - some sooner,
» » others later.
» »
» » So if you’re fine with a 20% increase in hair, thats not a cure…you’d
» » still have to take propecia for the foreseable future. I’m expecting for
» a
» » cure that would regrow/maintain hair without have to take drugs or
» apply
» » topicals. Me being a NW7…if ARI can regrow 20-30% hair that would
» provide
» » me enough density to cover up my head. Remember ARI is Not reversing
» » hairloss, so regrowth doesn’t have to be in NW5 -> NW4 -> NW3 etc
» fashion.
» » In your first treatment you could possibly end with up a NW1-NW2
» hairline,
» » but with a lot less overall hair density.
» You are stupid par excellence, nobody said something about using Minox for
» the rest of the life you idiot. Unknown Risks? Well the clearly stated that
» there wont be any side effects, you stupid retard, thats why they test this
» with minox and in future tims with Propecia to check this.
»
» Actually i dont think that you read carefully what some posters are
» writing here. Cause you dont know anything about Minox you can only cry and
» keep bitcing around, thats all you can do, there is nothing more to you.
»
» You are always crying like a litle girl, you know what go in the woods and
» bring some gallow with you cause we are all sick and tired of your self
» pitty crybaby bullsit, its npt our fault that you cut all your social
» activities and have no money to do a HT.
»
» Quote from Spanidh Idiot : And remember that you have to use Minoxidil to
» get this 20% hair.
» » If you were already using Minox, the increase would be less than 20%."
»
» You ar so full of it, where did you get those ground breaking
» informations? These are only your often claimed bullsh*t opinions where
» nobody cares any more.
»
» You know what here are a lot of people who actually are smart, just to
» name a fw cal, Shooter, rev, Iron_Man but you are actually the lowest thing
» on the Intelligence Food Chain.
»
» Stop starting your whiney Threads with all those “The FAIL” Bullcrap. The
» only ones who actually failed, your parents for not perform an abortion,
» thats it. End of Story.
you are scary dude…
Why? Because i just analysed your charater? That you are a split personality on anti depressives?
You dont have arguments left thats why you can just say things like " You are scary"
Its not my intention to be scary but its my intention to not give retards like roger that a pltform to express themselfs.
And you sir are on the best way to be in roger thats team.
Iam only uncensored and straight to the point. If someone wants to argue in a social rational way iam willing to do so without agressions but when i see Douchebags like roger who are playing with hopes of Hairloss sufferers and making fun of them, when the demand those news he was talking about, then my personal line is crossed and i will destroy this person for all it will take
Well when i come to think of it, could it be that roger that is your sock puppet account? Cause this would explain your split personality and also he does the same like you.
He starts Threads for every little piece of Bullcrap and makes a desaster out of it, and after some damage done he oenst reply in this threads any more and starts another one.
If people call me insane iam ok with that cause even if iam “insane” i will always try to help people who are actually looking for help, but i will destroy trolls
» » You are stupid par excellence, nobody said something about using Minox
» for
» » the rest of the life you idiot. Unknown Risks? Well the clearly stated
» that
» » there wont be any side effects, you stupid retard, thats why they test
» this
» » with minox and in future tims with Propecia to check this.
» »
» » Actually i dont think that you read carefully what some posters are
» » writing here. Cause you dont know anything about Minox you can only cry
» and
» » keep bitcing around, thats all you can do, there is nothing more to
» you.
» »
» » You are always crying like a litle girl, you know what go in the woods
» and
» » bring some gallow with you cause we are all sick and tired of your self
» » pitty crybaby bullsit, its npt our fault that you cut all your social
» » activities and have no money to do a HT.
» »
» » Quote from Spanidh Idiot : And remember that you have to use Minoxidil
» to
» » get this 20% hair.
» » » If you were already using Minox, the increase would be less than
» 20%."
» »
» » You ar so full of it, where did you get those ground breaking
» » informations? These are only your often claimed bullsh*t opinions where
» » nobody cares any more.
» »
» » You know what here are a lot of people who actually are smart, just to
» » name a fw cal, Shooter, rev, Iron_Man but you are actually the lowest
» thing
» » on the Intelligence Food Chain.
» »
» » Stop starting your whiney Threads with all those “The FAIL” Bullcrap.
» The
» » only ones who actually failed, your parents for not perform an
» abortion,
» » thats it. End of Story.
»
»
» you are scary dude…
» » I have to disagree.
» »
» » NW#7-#1 may be an unrealistic expectation on the first release of a HM
» » product. But it’s not an unrealistic hope and expectation in the
» » foreseeable future.
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » All the balding hairs on the head are suffering from the same problem.
» If
» » you can effectively solve that problem on the worst of them, then you
» » should be able to bring the vast majority of them back.
» »
» » If somebody like Aderans can (reliably) sprout a batch of new hairs on
» a
» » long-balded piece of skin, then they should gradually be able to cover
» the
» » whole head as long as the results are basically compoundable. It’s the
» » same process, just repeated on a much larger scale.
» »
» » I see no reason why this can’t be how things work. Just because we’re
» » used to pissy little pathetic incremental improvements in MPB treatments
» so
» » far, that does not mean we can’t leap giant strides ahead in the
» future.
»
» agree with cal!
I honestly can’t say one way or the other whether or not the “cure” which grows back all our hair will come in our lifetime. I have been here for a while now and I still say it’s a toss up. I think it is possible we will see the “cure” for hair-loss in our lifetime and I also think that it’s possible we won’t. The fact of when the “cure” is going to be available is so perplexing is what makes it so frustrating. The one thing I do believe is that one day in the future they will be able to grow back almost every body part possible (including hair). The only organs I cannot see being replicated are the brain, sperm, and eggs… for some reason I think no matter how hard they try they are vastly to unique/complex. I think that there are no limits (minuscule if any) to what humans are capable if they put there mind to it. I think it all depends on how much money, time, and effort is put into it. It’s also possible they accidental stumble upon it or we happen to get the privilege of an Einstein of hair regeneration walking amongst us somewhere. The thing that alludes me is not if it’s when, it could be light years from now.
One thing is undeniable though, this is truly a heart-breaking issue for myself and a lot of others.