I know this topic does not belongs to this area but I want to ask people in here. I have used lots of things except minoxidil nothing worked for me. the latest was Acell+PRP which didn’t do anything for me either. I was considering HT either with dr cole or armani. I actually booked sometimes two surgeries with dr cole and I walked out of the surgery room because I got scared. I never got my money back but it was my fault and not dr coles. he took his time for me twice. I like dr armani hairline but he wants me to do a 4000 grafts and dr cole would do the frontal area with only 2000 grafts. they both told me I have about 14000 donor grafts. since ht is not like nose surgery I want to chose the right doctor. to me hairline matters a lot. my hairloss is 4v in the scale but I am not considering my crown right now since i use hair fibers to cover that. any suggestions please. do not attack please.
just my opinion…
Do not do a hair transplant. your hair loss will continue. even with medication it gets slowed down… but it will continue.
It will look absolutely wierd as your hair falls out and the transplants remain in place. think of it 2, 5, 7, 10 years down the line.
As hard as it is, i would say buzz it short, get in shape and try to accept it. At least until Aderans or Replicel or Dr. Roland Lauster or Histogen or someone comes up with a cure.
I too feel desperate sometimes to run out and get a HT. But I know once I swallow the poison pill, there’s no going back. I will be on a HT treadmill forever.
Walking out of the surgery is probably the best thing you ever did.
I’d suggest waiting till 2014 to see what Aderans and Replicel might be cooking. If after that you see nothing and there’s no hope on the horizon, go ahead and get transplanted.
» they both told me I have about 14000 donor grafts.
I suppose ALL IN ALL within the “safe zone” (occipital area) - but it doesn’t mean that they could harvest 14,000 FU’s?
Beware - if someone claims he can harvest such a large quantity, they mostly go far beyond the “safe zone” …
» » they both told me I have about 14000 donor grafts.
»
» I suppose ALL IN ALL within the “safe zone” (occipital area) - but it
» doesn’t mean that they could harvest 14,000 FU’s?
»
» Beware - if someone claims he can harvest such a large quantity, they
» mostly go far beyond the “safe zone” …
I would never go for large session. But I’m not sure to pick dr Cole or dr Armani for ht if I decide to do it. I don’t think I can wait any longer until 2014. When I see these pictures in armanis website they look like models.
Don’t do it. You will regret it.
There have been 20.000 ht procedures and the density is not good enough and it always looks weird (cause the distribution and hair characteristics are not natural).
HT is not the solution.
Start from anew, get infomed and gather as manyinformations as posible.
Especially in your case, where you have 14.000 Grafts to “harvest” you should make EVERY Single Graft count at least twice, if you know what i mean.
Currently you have to choose between three different HT techniques on the market FUE, HST and FUT, where FUT should never be an option.
Your 14k Grafts if used correctl can make the difference. Btw its not a hame to walk out of a clinic, this only shows you still have your brain. Kudos to you
» I know this topic does not belongs to this area but I want to ask people in
» here. I have used lots of things except minoxidil nothing worked for me.
» the latest was Acell+PRP which didn’t do anything for me either. I was
» considering HT either with dr cole or armani. I actually booked sometimes
» two surgeries with dr cole and I walked out of the surgery room because I
» got scared. I never got my money back but it was my fault and not dr coles.
» he took his time for me twice. I like dr armani hairline but he wants me to
» do a 4000 grafts and dr cole would do the frontal area with only 2000
» grafts. they both told me I have about 14000 donor grafts. since ht is not
» like nose surgery I want to chose the right doctor. to me hairline matters
» a lot. my hairloss is 4v in the scale but I am not considering my crown
» right now since i use hair fibers to cover that. any suggestions please. do
» not attack please.
in my personal opinion ht’s are a viable option. I mean, sure the density will never be as full as your juvenile density, but you can still use fibers and fillers… and hope that a few years down the line, there will be HM possibilities to increase your density…
I have to disagree, right now patients should be very careful, which route the gonna take. If you opt for a traditional hair transplant right now, you have to be sure that you will need follow ups and the problem of decreasing donor capacities in the future. So it is essential to make every available Graft count at least two times
» I have to disagree, right now patients should be very careful, which route
» the gonna take. If you opt for a traditional hair transplant right now, you
» have to be sure that you will need follow ups and the problem of decreasing
» donor capacities in the future. So it is essential to make every available
» Graft count at least two times
Then what about the pictures in their web sites? Are they genuine? Based on the pictures the guys look totally different than when they were bald.
pictures are meant to mislead.
i can take pictures of my own head where at some angles it looks like i have a full head of hair and in others, you see the hair loss quite visibly. And that’s without even using the standard misleading technique in this industry of never showing you the top/crown view in bright light.
A guy on here had a large, expensive transplant with one of the clinics in the HT forum. I won’t say which as I don’t want to get banned. His results were unsatisfactory and he became suicidal. He made a post about it. What he got was a lawsuit threat from the clinic to quiet him up. My reply to that clinic in his defence was deleted promptly.
The guy is no longer around here and I sincerely hope he has not taken his life.
You’ll never see that picture in any gallery obviously.
Its shady business so be careful.
Trust none of what you hear and half of what you see.
» » they both told me I have about 14000 donor grafts.
»
» I suppose ALL IN ALL within the “safe zone” (occipital area) - but it
» doesn’t mean that they could harvest 14,000 FU’s?
»
» Beware - if someone claims he can harvest such a large quantity, they
» mostly go far beyond the “safe zone” …
If they say this to you ask for 3 fully documented examples of 14,000 graft patients previously done and see how fast they run for cover…
mm12, my advice is to look around at photos posted by members of hairloss/hair transplant communities, rather than relying on photos posted by clinics. I work for a transplant doctor myself and I know that we aren’t misleading anybody (and there are many other reputable surgeons too) but looking to see if what the patients are posting matches what the clinics are choosing to put out is just a wise thing to do.
Hi!
just to clarify, do you mean that you have 14,000 grafts for transplantation?
And after transplanting 14,000 grafts, you will still have donor coverage?
» I know this topic does not belongs to this area but I want to ask people in
» here. I have used lots of things except minoxidil nothing worked for me.
» the latest was Acell+PRP which didn’t do anything for me either. I was
» considering HT either with dr cole or armani. I actually booked sometimes
» two surgeries with dr cole and I walked out of the surgery room because I
» got scared. I never got my money back but it was my fault and not dr coles.
» he took his time for me twice. I like dr armani hairline but he wants me to
» do a 4000 grafts and dr cole would do the frontal area with only 2000
» grafts. they both told me I have about 14000 donor grafts. since ht is not
» like nose surgery I want to chose the right doctor. to me hairline matters
» a lot. my hairloss is 4v in the scale but I am not considering my crown
» right now since i use hair fibers to cover that. any suggestions please. do
» not attack please.
» Hi!
» just to clarify, do you mean that you have 14,000 grafts for
» transplantation?
» And after transplanting 14,000 grafts, you will still have donor coverage?
»
I believe they ment over all donor grafts are about 14,000. And when I use 2000-4000 of them it won’t damage my donor or it won’t show that much?
» » Hi!
» » just to clarify, do you mean that you have 14,000 grafts for
» » transplantation?
» » And after transplanting 14,000 grafts, you will still have donor
» coverage?
» »
» I believe they ment over all donor grafts are about 14,000. And when I use
» 2000-4000 of them it won’t damage my donor or it won’t show that much?
They had to tell you how many grafts could be transplanted.
Is your donor area very extensive and very dense?
An average patient has 5000 grafts available for FUE transplantation, without producing noticeable damage.
Some lucky guys have up to 10,000 or more.
So, if you have 14,000 grafts available for transplantation, that would mean your donor is exceptional.
» » » Hi!
» » » just to clarify, do you mean that you have 14,000 grafts for
» » » transplantation?
» » » And after transplanting 14,000 grafts, you will still have donor
» » coverage?
» » »
» » I believe they ment over all donor grafts are about 14,000. And when I
» use
» » 2000-4000 of them it won’t damage my donor or it won’t show that much?
»
» They had to tell you how many grafts could be transplanted.
» Is your donor area very extensive and very dense?
» An average patient has 5000 grafts available for FUE transplantation,
» without producing noticeable damage.
» Some lucky guys have up to 10,000 or more.
» So, if you have 14,000 grafts available for transplantation, that would
» mean your donor is exceptional.
I’m sure I dont have 14000 grafts for extraction that would be too much asked. I’m sure he said that I have 14000 grafts so if he takes 2000 out then I would be left with 12000 overall grafts in the donor area. One thing dr Cole told me is that I have an advantage over most guys because I have thick hair in diameter which means that I would need 2000 grafts in an area where a normal guy would need 3000 grafts.
» I would never go for large session. But I’m not sure to pick dr Cole or dr
» Armani for ht if I decide to do it. I don’t think I can wait any longer
» until 2014. When I see these pictures in armanis website they look like
» models.
Hey, you may be a good candidate for transplant. All I can say is if you had started a thread in the hair transplant section ANYeven half negative posts would have removed by now, especially if you’d mentioned either doctor in the thread title.
Maybe Dr Rassmans scalp micro pigmentation could buy you some time and give you a result you can be happy with in the meantime ?
okay, I see.
So you have 14,000 grafts, but only 4,000 for FUE transplantation?
If your balding area is very extensive, 4,000 grafts could be not enough to give you a good result. Maybe using volumizers…
If your baldness is advancing, just forget it.
» » » » Hi!
» » » » just to clarify, do you mean that you have 14,000 grafts for
» » » » transplantation?
» » » » And after transplanting 14,000 grafts, you will still have donor
» » » coverage?
» » » »
» » » I believe they ment over all donor grafts are about 14,000. And when I
» » use
» » » 2000-4000 of them it won’t damage my donor or it won’t show that
» much?
» »
» » They had to tell you how many grafts could be transplanted.
» » Is your donor area very extensive and very dense?
» » An average patient has 5000 grafts available for FUE transplantation,
» » without producing noticeable damage.
» » Some lucky guys have up to 10,000 or more.
» » So, if you have 14,000 grafts available for transplantation, that would
» » mean your donor is exceptional.
»
» I’m sure I dont have 14000 grafts for extraction that would be too much
» asked. I’m sure he said that I have 14000 grafts so if he takes 2000 out
» then I would be left with 12000 overall grafts in the donor area. One thing
» dr Cole told me is that I have an advantage over most guys because I have
» thick hair in diameter which means that I would need 2000 grafts in an area
» where a normal guy would need 3000 grafts.
» When I see these pictures in armanis website they look like models.
hmmmm - maybe they are just models?
This is not the right place to ask, because people in this forum don’t want to have a HT or they can’t ( for some reason )
» … since ht is not like nose surgery …
For what I know, nose surgery is the most difficult speciality in cosmetic surgery, a HT is tedious but nothing more. In the end, a butcher is always a butcher 