Severe Baldness Cured, 20,000 grafts, using FUE BHT with video - Dr. Umar

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» Excellent clinic and results but this is either and unnecessarily
» dishonest or negligent answer. The length of body hair is obviously limited
» by its length in its native area. It will not necessarily be the length
» “elected” by the patient.

Marco you have a valid point, but to be fair he does have 5,500 head hair grafts transplanted plus the 1000/1,500 that was still there - he could grow this longer and hope the rest looks like ‘filler’.

DHC, I looked at your second video (2,000 beard and 8,000 body hair), I think that work is a very fine repair that has helped that guy a lot - but if we are looking at the illusion of full coverage (I am not talking about quality - BHT rarely looks like head hair - nobody’s fault) then based on that it looks like he needs another 30,000+ BHT - and that despite the guy being lucky enough to have the BHT of a gorilla - you could plait his body hair !

Severe baldness cured? This is a seriously misleading heading, I wouldn’t call this a cure by any stretch of imagination, a cure is when you could have your teenage density back, this is hardly the case here, he looks better but far from being cured! You should consider changing the heading.

i wonder what dr umar has to say about gho technique

» i wonder what dr umar has to say about gho technique

fue and gho’s hst are similar in many ways, it’s a shame none of the fue doctor has anything productive to say about gho s technique, is it really that difficult to do a small experiment?

Reiner, you are entitled to your opinion, and I respect it. Obviously the vast majority of viewers that have responded to this video which has been up on You tube for months disagree with you. Thank you for your input. The forum is only enriched by the diversity of opinions.

Regards,

“and that despite the guy being lucky enough to have the BHT of a gorilla - you could plait his body hair !”

Some levity is a nice thing on this matter, especially if the ending is a favorable one as is clearly the case in the 10,000 BHT repair patient in question. Thank you for focusing on the ball here. This is a good example of a patient in whom body hair has clearly improved quality of life when all conventional repair options have all but disappeared. No he was not interested in full head of hair…just a normal life. In which case we have the patient’s own testimony to look to.

Marco, I can see how logic can lead to your line of thinking. The fact is his non head hair does grow longer than he has it now. Here is an earlier video of the patient shot at just 9 months after 15,000 grafts. here his has his hair a tad longer:

[link= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll8PkhuybGY ]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll8PkhuybGY [/link]

My opinion of course is that Body Hair is a big disappointment for the likes of me. Unless something changes I think it will continue to be, however, I would say this - IF I was a multi-millionaire with fantastic (and I mean - WELL above average) body hair then I would be taking a punt on it, I think that IF you could get the yield then cut to stubble it could look really good.

This may say more about my irrational wish to have hair than anything else :slight_smile: - but it is true and I think it is true for a lot of men.

I do not, however, understand why men would use Body Hair when they have tons of head hair in their donor region available - I think that is in normal circumstances a very misguided judgement.

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» I think there is a lot of conflicting information around here, how do you
» explain this photo from the God father of body hair transplant, this is
» Woods’ patient, it was posted by Hairsite with a ruler showing that body
» hair can grow long even when transplanted to the scalp.
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Yeah, I actually thought about this Wood’s patient when I posted. That’s why I qualified my “The body hair will only grow as long as it would have grown in its original location” with “from what I’ve read in most places.” I don’t know of any other case where body hair has grown out like it did with this fellow, and I know that some body hair patients have posted that body hair will look the same after transplant as it did before transplant. I’m not sure why this Woods patient had a different result. Maybe Dr Woods can speak to the question.

» I think there is a lot of conflicting information around here, how do you
» explain this photo from the God father of body hair transplant, this is
» Woods’ patient, it was posted by Hairsite with a ruler showing that body
» hair can grow long even when transplanted to the scalp.
»

Your post made it sound like we were the one who measured the length of the body hair. The photo was provided by Dr. Woods. We simply uploaded the photo for him. That was the extent of our involvement.

» Your post made it sound like we were the one who measured the length of
» the body hair.

Your default position Hairsite is to be responsible :slight_smile:

This guy clearly has very long body hair but Dr Woods generally states that you shouldn’t have expectations of more than WYSIWIG.

This guy’s BHT with Dr Woods was obviously very successful, given that and the fact that he needs a LOT more grafts it seems strange that he doesn’t go back to Dr Woods for more - I haven’t seen any update on this guy - has anybody else ?

I totally agree with Reiner. When baldness is cured we will all have our high school heads of hair back! This is very Misleading!

this guys hair already looks extremely odd
the side hair is patchy and thin and not healthy, as it is normally on most balding guys

the top hair is also such a large area to cover that, although with what he had to work with Dr Umar did excellent work, better than 99 percent of docs could do
I still think people seeing this guy in 10 to 15 yrs will say, WTF is up with the guys hair

» Reiner, you are entitled to your opinion, and I respect it. Obviously the
» vast majority of viewers that have responded to this video which has been
» up on You tube for months disagree with you. Thank you for your input. The
» forum is only enriched by the diversity of opinions.
»
» Regards,

To the contrary Dr Umar
I think most posters on this forum, (way more educated than the avg youtube viewer, do not think this guys result looks that great

it looks great from the frontal view head upright

head down, or from the side it looks very odd, sparse, uneven, and unnatural

Much better to look naturally bald than to look like this guy

This may say more about my irrational wish to have hair than anything else - but it is true and I think it is true for a lot of men.
I do not, however, understand why men would use Body Hair when they have tons of head hair in their donor region available - I think that is in normal circumstances a very misguided judgement."

LOL! It is called hair greed. The affliction of us bald men (I am bald too and just had a transplant by Dr Umar). Something non balding men cannot relate with.

Skywalker, your final point is in agreement with Dr Umar’s philosophy of the non blanket use of BHT. He has generally used the principles in determining when to use BHT:

Repair patients: Some of these patients have had a positive life altering transformation from BHT.
It is easy to see how BHT use in this patient is justified:
http://dermhairclinic.com/video-gallery-repair-2-Worst-Hair-Transplant-Result-Repair-Using-FUE-BHT-with-Beard-Body-Hair-Part%202-3.html

  1. In combination with head hair, it is used in significantly bald individuals that are not repair cases, whose hair loss (present plus projected) cannot be met by head hair donor alone.
    Such as the patient in the center of this thread.

  2. In specialized instances like hairline refinement with finer body hair, for example sofarsogood shown in this video:
    http://dermhairclinic.com/video-gallery-repair-2-pluggy-hairline-and-hair-transplant-repair-using-bht-fue.html

» To the contrary Dr Umar
» I think most posters on this forum, (way more educated than the avg
» youtube viewer, do not think this guys result looks that great
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» it looks great from the frontal view head upright
» head down, or from the side it looks very odd, sparse, uneven, and
» unnatural
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» Much better to look naturally bald than to look like this guy

I disagree. I think he obviously looks better now than before, and will only look better as the hair turns gray as he ages. I work with a guy in his mid-50s who has kept his hair, and it looks very much like the patient’s hair in this video. When hair is cropped that short, it is common for the scalp to be easily seen in some men who never had any issue with hair loss (even young boys for whom hair loss is years away, if it will ever affect them).

» » To the contrary Dr Umar
» » I think most posters on this forum, (way more educated than the avg
» » youtube viewer, do not think this guys result looks that great
» »
» » it looks great from the frontal view head upright
» » head down, or from the side it looks very odd, sparse, uneven, and
» » unnatural
» »
» » Much better to look naturally bald than to look like this guy
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» I disagree. I think he obviously looks better now than before, and will
» only look better as the hair turns gray as he ages. I work with a guy in
» his mid-50s who has kept his hair, and it looks very much like the
» patient’s hair in this video. When hair is cropped that short, it is common
» for the scalp to be easily seen in some men who never had any issue with
» hair loss (even young boys for whom hair loss is years away, if it will
» ever affect them).

Look at the guys hair after and do not compare it to the before pic, just look at the hair on top when he bends down. Does that look good to you? Look at his side temples, they are 60 percent gone and within 5 yrs will look way way worse, and now contrast that with his perfect filled in frontal hairline, it is a very bad future match. The crown looks like a bald guy sprinkled hair on top , from the back…

much better to look naturally bald than what this guy looks like even now, and in 10 yrs he will look way more unnatural and freakish than he does now.

I think this , was a superb coverup attempt by UMAR and he did a fantastic job with what he had to work with but, IMO it looks very unnatural.

compared to before yes its amazing

but if I saw this guy walking down the street I would think WTF is up with the hair? and I would immediately know its a transplant

thats not good if thats what people think

you telling me that from the side and back you cant tell this is a transplant?

» much better to look naturally bald than what this guy looks like even now,
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» compared to before yes its amazing

He was naturally bald before…so make your mind up!!!

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» you telling me that from the side and back you cant tell this is a
» transplant?

I never paid attention until you brought this up, maybe that’s why he has to keep his hair short so that the contrast isn’t as obvious.

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» » you telling me that from the side and back you cant tell this is a
» » transplant?
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» I never paid attention until you brought this up, maybe that’s why he has
» to keep his hair short so that the contrast isn’t as obvious.

No, he keeps his hair short because body hair will not grow as long as scalp hair so he has little choice.