» As you all know, I’ve sanded heavily in my past attempts. But when I peeled
» from those attempts, the peeling did not seem to be all over the scalp or
» uniform in any way.
» I’ve done a tca chemical peel this time and I did five consecutive passes
» (apply, leave for five minutes until it self neutralises and then apply the
» next pass). This time, the WHOLE of the scalp has peeled and I mean in HUGE
» pieces. One piece of skin that came away was about 4 inches in diameter. My
» previous wounding attempts were nowhere near as thorough and comprehensive
» as this.
» I’m currently applying topical gefitinib (donated by Mike Walters), the
» noggin growth factors (also contains keramin 2 which inhibits DKK-1 and
» thus allows upregulation of wnt), copper peptides, tacrolimus for topical
» immunosuppression and I’m taking diphenhydramine at night as the
» anti-histamine component. I’m also applying emu oil. All of these topicals
» are applied separately and with at least an hour between the different
» compounds.
» My previous hair growth was patchy and maybe followed the patchiness of
» the actual areas which peeled. Now the whole area has peeled to a good
» depth so let’s see if I get anything worth posting about.
Baccy - I really hope this run works for you! Just a quick question - How long was it when you applied the peel to when you could show your head in public again…ie, would I need to book a couple of weeks of work and stay in private or if you still had hair would the peeling be visable and unsightly? Your imput would be appreciated. Thanks again!
» Baccy - I really hope this run works for you! Just a quick question - How
» long was it when you applied the peel to when you could show your head in
» public again…ie, would I need to book a couple of weeks of work and stay
» in private or if you still had hair would the peeling be visable and
» unsightly? Your imput would be appreciated. Thanks again!
Not Baccy…just saying what i’ve learned from several chemical peel websites. If your skin peels (using tca), then it will take at least a week(7 days) before you can go out.
» » searching in amazon.com for tca I see that there is tca20% and tca30%
» but
» » not tca 20-30%.
»
» LOL…what mike meant was that you can try any tca peel with concentration
» of 20%, 30% or anything inbetween.
» Hi,
»
» searching in amazon.com for tca I see that there is tca20% and tca30% but
» not tca 20-30%.
»
» For instance this is 30%
» Amazon.com
»
» Which one did you buy?
»
» Thanks.
» Hi Baccy,
»
» I am considering doing a peeling on my scalp to try an idea.
»
» I have two question if you are so kind to answer:
»
» 1. What is the concentration of the TCA you have used. I think it goes
» from 10 to 35%.
» 2. Are you sure that none of the existing hair has been damaged?
»
» Thanks.
30% TCA peel. The other hairs that appeared with my past experiment did not get damaged at all. They were there right through the application, epithelization and peeling process.
I have to say though that the application stage was quite painful and scary. I did the ENTIRE scalp which is a very large area to submit to the 5 layers of peel. According to Mike’s theory, you have to do at least 3 peels to get a result. But it’s damned painful and damned scary doing it.
»
» Baccy - I really hope this run works for you! Just a quick question - How
» long was it when you applied the peel to when you could show your head in
» public again…ie, would I need to book a couple of weeks of work and stay
» in private or if you still had hair would the peeling be visable and
» unsightly? Your imput would be appreciated. Thanks again!
Thanks for your vote of confidence m8. My scalp began to peel on the seventh day but prior to that it had developed a dry, leathery look. It finished peeling on Day 10 but was quite tender. By that time, it was okay to go out without a hat. I would say that you may need to wear a hat in public for the first 10 days although if you already have hair, the leathery look may be disguised. You may just need to wear a hat during the peeling days (3 or 4 days from maybe Day 7). I don’t know what else to tell you as I HAD to cover my head in public as I’m practically bald.
» »
» » Baccy - I really hope this run works for you! Just a quick question -
» How
» » long was it when you applied the peel to when you could show your head
» in
» » public again…ie, would I need to book a couple of weeks of work and
» stay
» » in private or if you still had hair would the peeling be visable and
» » unsightly? Your imput would be appreciated. Thanks again!
»
» Thanks for your vote of confidence m8. My scalp began to peel on the
» seventh day but prior to that it had developed a dry, leathery look. It
» finished peeling on Day 10 but was quite tender. By that time, it was okay
» to go out without a hat. I would say that you may need to wear a hat in
» public for the first 10 days although if you already have hair, the
» leathery look may be disguised. You may just need to wear a hat during the
» peeling days (3 or 4 days from maybe Day 7). I don’t know what else to tell
» you as I HAD to cover my head in public as I’m practically bald.
YOU GUYS SANDPAPERED UR HEADS!!! THAT IS THE MOST RETARDED THING I HAVE EVER HEARD…DIDN THAT SH*T HURT??? The ideas and actions one will do to get back their hair…i hope some doctor or researcher who has the cure is reading this …so they can see what we will do to get our hair back…we need a solution NOW!!! dude stop sandpapering ur head…that cant be good man…but i feel ya brother!!
» YOU GUYS SANDPAPERED UR HEADS!!! THAT IS THE MOST RETARDED THING I HAVE
» EVER HEARD…DIDN THAT SH*T HURT??? The ideas and actions one will do to
» get back their hair…i hope some doctor or researcher who has the cure is
» reading this …so they can see what we will do to get our hair back…we
» need a solution NOW!!! dude stop sandpapering ur head…that cant be good
» man…but i feel ya brother!!
This might very well be the solution. I am slightly mad; isn’t everyone on here? But retarded? No.
» » Hi Baccy,
» »
» » I am considering doing a peeling on my scalp to try an idea.
» »
» » I have two question if you are so kind to answer:
» »
» » 1. What is the concentration of the TCA you have used. I think it goes
» » from 10 to 35%.
» » 2. Are you sure that none of the existing hair has been damaged?
» »
» » Thanks.
»
» 30% TCA peel. The other hairs that appeared with my past experiment did
» not get damaged at all. They were there right through the application,
» epithelization and peeling process.
» I have to say though that the application stage was quite painful and
» scary. I did the ENTIRE scalp which is a very large area to submit to the 5
» layers of peel. According to Mike’s theory, you have to do at least 3 peels
» to get a result. But it’s damned painful and damned scary doing it.
Think about that burning feeling in ur mouth when u spicy food, but instead it’s on ur head. It’s not bad. I think it was tolerable. The whole process took me about half an hour and it’s over…
YOU GUYS SANDPAPERED UR HEADS!!! THAT IS THE MOST RETARDED THING I HAVE EVER HEARD…DIDN THAT SH*T HURT??? The ideas and actions one will do to get back their hair…i hope some doctor or researcher who has the cure is reading this …so they can see what we will do to get our hair back…we need a solution NOW!!! dude stop sandpapering ur head…that cant be good man…but i feel ya brother!!
People get themselves hacked to pieces for a better nose or bigger tits. People wear stainless steel wires & brackets all over their teeth for years on end just to make them look prettier.
Sandpapering some skin until it’s pink & irritated isn’t much in the big picture.
» YOU GUYS SANDPAPERED UR HEADS!!! THAT IS THE MOST RETARDED
» THING I HAVE EVER HEARD…DIDN THAT SH*T HURT??? The ideas and actions
» one will do to get back their hair…i hope some doctor or researcher who
» has the cure is reading this …so they can see what we will do to get our
» hair back…we need a solution NOW!!! dude stop sandpapering ur
» head…that cant be good man…but i feel ya brother!!
»
» People get themselves hacked to pieces for a better nose or bigger tits.
» People wear stainless steel wires & brackets all over their teeth for years
» on end just to make them look prettier.
»
» Sandpapering some skin until it’s pink & irritated isn’t much in the big
» picture.
I agree that a superficial/medium peeling shouldn’t be very dangerous, a deep phenol peeling is another completely different thing, I’ve always asked myself about its effects on hair, maybe nothing relevant, maybe good, maybe bad.
I think the super-deep peels will prove unnecessary (and maybe detrimental) eventually. Some skin damage is good but that doesn’t mean more must always be better. This whole Folica-esque wounding thing is gonna sink or swim mostly on the drug portion.
(Does anyone think the infamous Genfilitib cancer patient got a sunburn THAT deep where he regrew? And yet he’s trumped anything we’ve come up with since.)
» I think the super-deep peels will prove unnecessary (and maybe detrimental)
» eventually. Some skin damage is good but that doesn’t mean more must
» always be better. This whole Folica-esque wounding thing is gonna sink or
» swim mostly on the drug portion.
»
You may be right. All I know is that I got new or rejuvenated hair growing where there has been none for many years. And to do that I sanded VERY deeply over a large area. But probably due to the inaccuracies of the sanding process, my peeling was patchy and I did not peel over the entire area. The hair growth looks like it may have followed where the skin peeled which may have been the deeper wounded sections.
This time, with the tca 5 layer peel, the ENTIRE scalp peeled. Almost in one piece. Hopefully this will trigger rejuvenation/neogenesis ALL OVER the scalp in an even fashion. Bear in mind that even 5 layers of peel only removed less than a millimetre of epidermis.
Let us not forget that wounding alone is enough to produce new follicles and the drugs merely ENHANCE the efficiency in terms of size and numbers of follicles.
» I think the super-deep peels will prove unnecessary (and maybe detrimental)
» eventually. Some skin damage is good but that doesn’t mean more must
» always be better. This whole Folica-esque wounding thing is gonna sink or
» swim mostly on the drug portion.
»
» (Does anyone think the infamous Genfilitib cancer patient got a sunburn
» THAT deep where he regrew? And yet he’s trumped anything we’ve come up
» with since.)
We certainly don’t know for sure, but it’s the best story anyone has come up with. If you’ve got another idea (or a reason to doubt this idea) then I’m listening.
It looked like he regrew on exactly the most sun-burn-prone areas of his scalp, and I don’t just mean just the bald areas indiscriminately.
It also didn’t look like the regrowth happened in the man’s original MPB pattern (like, going in reverse) either.
The sunburn suspicion could also explain the woman with the hair growth on the end of her nose pretty well too.
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