Pygeum / Nettle and estradiol - Hormonal balance

Supplements for hair loss
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There still seems to be alot of consfusion on what helps with what on the board in terms of inhibition. The key is to achieve hormonal balance thus keeping Testosterone at youthful levels ( as we age ) and keeping DHT and Estradiol down. Such a strategy should help in slowing hairloss also.

The majority here know that SP helps with DHT and there is more potent blocker ie. Beta sis. However I found it interesting that there is potential for two others herbs to block Estradiol in combination in particular ie. Pygeum and Nettle.

**Hence a combination of SP ( or Beta sis ) WITH Pygeum and Nettle would block ]DHT aswell as Estradiol Achieving a more balanced approach!

Epilobium also achieves this by itself.

Regards
Pete

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» There still seems to be alot of consfusion on what helps with what on the
» board in terms of inhibition. The key is to achieve hormonal balance thus
» keeping Testosterone at youthful levels ( as we age ) and keeping DHT and
» Estradiol down. Such a strategy should help in slowing hairloss also.
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» The majority here know that SP helps with DHT and there is
» more potent blocker ie. Beta sis. However I found it interesting
» that there is potential for two others herbs to block Estradiol in
» combination in particular ie. Pygeum and Nettle.
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» **Hence a combination of SP ( or Beta sis ) WITH Pygeum and Nettle
» would block ]DHT aswell as Estradiol Achieving a more balanced
» approach!
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» Epilobium also achieves this by itself.

when i added pygeum and nettles and beta sis to saw palmetto i saw even better hair, but

I think they have their limits, some guys do not respond to them,
I saw the response great in thin areas, thickening them up and lots of regrowth, however as you say in bald areas etc they are not much good for regrowth

however I think I am still up in the air about nizoral, crossing my fingers
I still think guys should add a super hair vitamin, personal opinion

what does the estradiol do, stop fallout? or cause regrowth
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» Regards
» Pete

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“PROGESTERONE- is not a feminine hormone at all since it opposes and balances excess estrogens in our bodies. Estradiol and estrone are the feminizing hormones. Men over 50 literally have more estrogen in their blood than their post-menopausal wives! This excess estrogen is a cause of baldness, obesity, impotence and other male aging problems.”

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» “PROGESTERONE- is not a feminine hormone at all since it opposes and
» balances excess estrogens in our bodies. Estradiol and estrone are the
» feminizing hormones. Men over 50 literally have more estrogen in their
» blood than their post-menopausal wives! This excess estrogen is a cause of
» baldness, obesity, impotence and other male aging problems.”

nice cut and paste

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Thanks, sweetheart.

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i was hoping you would come up with an original thought but

as usual
I was disappointed

then again, what else would we expect
speaking of unbalanced hormones

you would not happen to be menopausal would you

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» “PROGESTERONE- is not a feminine hormone at all since it opposes and
» balances excess estrogens in our bodies. Estradiol and estrone are the
» feminizing hormones. Men over 50 literally have more estrogen in their
» blood than their post-menopausal wives! This excess estrogen is a cause of
» baldness, obesity, impotence and other male aging problems.”

Would you use Progesterone Cream to achieve hormonal balance and why ?

What is the mode of action at work that balances the main hormones involved in MALE hairloss ( without a cut and paste ) ?

Regards
Pete

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» i was hoping you would come up with an original thought but
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» as usual
» I was disappointed
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» then again, what else would we expect
» speaking of unbalanced hormones
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» you would not happen to be menopausal would you
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I would not encourage anyone to use a supplement that is designed to re balance womens hormones for male hairloss!

Regards
Pete

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» » i was hoping you would come up with an original thought but
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» » as usual
» » I was disappointed
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» » then again, what else would we expect
» » speaking of unbalanced hormones
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» » you would not happen to be menopausal would you
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» I would not encourage anyone to use a supplement that is designed to re
» balance womens hormones for male hairloss!
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» Regards
» Pete

gee pete the pic of the hormonal menopause supplement was a joke related to my comment

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» » “PROGESTERONE- is not a feminine hormone at all since it opposes and
» » balances excess estrogens in our bodies. Estradiol and estrone are the
» » feminizing hormones. Men over 50 literally have more estrogen in their
» » blood than their post-menopausal wives! This excess estrogen is a cause
» of
» » baldness, obesity, impotence and other male aging problems.”
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» Would you use Progesterone Cream to achieve hormonal balance and why ?
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» What is the mode of action at work that balances the main hormones
» involved in MALE hairloss ( without a cut and paste ) ?

I saw a guy on some show that experimented with hormone replacement for a month, the show was based on this. some reality tv show
he agreed to take human growth hormone plus some other hormone supplment male hormone, for anti aging etc

within a month, his moods became violent, hhis previous 89 million sperm count, went down to ZERO, all the sperm were dead, his wife just about had a cow, since they wanted to have another baby, They immediately stopped the experiment, cursed out the doctor involved and the show producers etc
very interesting show
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» Pete

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Q. Would you use Progesterone Cream to achieve hormonal balance and why ?
A. Yes. “To achieve hormonal balance.”

Q. What is the mode of action at work that balances the main hormones
involved in MALE hairloss ( without a cut and paste )?
A. I think you said it best Peter, “The answers [you’re] looking for are very specific - try emailing [this guy] to get some answers to slow down your hairloss: [go to www.youngagain.com]”

Oh, and a little reminder: When you are quoting or even paraphrasing a source, you’d better learn to use quotation marks, Peter. The alternative may make you feel smart, and garner you some attention here; but you’d still be guilty of plagiarism.

And that’s not good.

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» Q. Would you use Progesterone Cream to achieve hormonal balance and why ?
» A. Yes. “To achieve hormonal balance.”
»
» Q. What is the mode of action at work that balances the main hormones
» involved in MALE hairloss ( without a cut and paste )?
» A. I think you said it best Peter, “The answers [you’re] looking for are
» very specific - try emailing [this guy] to get some answers to slow down
» your hairloss: [go to www.youngagain.com]”
»
» Oh, and a little reminder: When you are quoting or even paraphrasing a
» source, you’d better learn to use quotation marks, Peter. The alternative
» may make you feel smart, and garner you some attention here; but you’d
» still be guilty of plagiarism.
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» And that’s not good.

a big wordy nothing of a response…basically email the guy and ask HIM ROFLMAO

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Aaaaah.

Golly gee, did Peter hurt your little feelings, Hang ups.

LOL!

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LOL! Peter used the same answer in another forum.

Learn to read!

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» LOL! Peter used the same answer in another forum.
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» Learn to read!

ok for peter to occasionally do that, he knows what he is talking about

you , on the other hand, are a walking bag of wind, who couldnt explain something without cutting and pasting if he tried

Pete specifically asked you to not cut and paste, what was your all knowing response…EMAIL THE GUY AND ASK HIM :clap: :rotfl:

why dont you just be honest and say…I have no clue Pete:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

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I have, in the past, shared my experiences about certain natural hair loss treatments. And I will continue to do so. Outside of my personal experiences, I will research different topics, and post information that I consider appropriate and relevant to a given discussion. I see nothing wrong with that. Our purpose is to obtain information.

Peter is neither a doctor nor chemist. Perhaps, he is an adequate reader, which is more than I can say for you, Hangin’; but he is looking for answers in books, magazines, and the Internet, just like the rest of us.

So let’s stop pretending to be something we are not, post information for the good of the forum, and try to learn from other’s experiences.

I am here to learn as well. And if I don’t know the answer to a question, I will to direct you to someone or something that does, such as a chemist, one of my sources of information.

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» I have, in the past, shared my experiences about certain natural hair loss
» treatments. And I will continue to do so. Outside of my personal
» experiences, I will research different topics, and post information that I
» consider appropriate and relevant to a given discussion. I see nothing
» wrong with that. Our purpose is to obtain information.
»
» Peter is neither a doctor nor chemist. Perhaps, he is an adequate reader,
» which is more than I can say for you, Hangin’; but he is looking for
» answers in books, magazines, and the Internet, just like the rest of us.
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»
» So let’s stop pretending to be something we are not, post information for
» the good of the forum, and try to learn from other’s experiences.
»
» I am here to learn as well. And if I don’t know the answer to a question,
» I will to direct you to someone or something that does, such as a chemist,
» one of my sources of information.

would your “sources of information” include the nutcase who said dht blockers are garbage and dont work

yah your sources are some hot ones thats for sure

You obviously have a bias towards certain treatments and you seek out loonies who agree with you, and ignore other studies that claim otherwise

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…and they (DHT blockers) didn’t work on your bald spot, so…

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» …and they didn’t work on your bald spot

define work?

take a guy like Matt lauer, If you could have brought him a treatment about 4 yrs ago when he first started thinning, that would have SAVED his hair, and he would still look now like he did back then and hed not lost any more hair, do you think he would have said, HEY I LOST A BIT OF HAIR before you started me on this treatment and it hasnt grown back yet, so your treatment didnt work

hell no…he would have been eternally grateful to have saved his hair, just like the rest of us

finding a treatment that PREVENTS you from going balder than you are now, that stops your hair loss and balding in its tracks is EXTREMELY difficult,

most stuff like rogaine and propecia etc stop working after a few years

My hair looks better now than it did in 1999 when I started this treatment, it was see through on top and the sides were paper thin, Sure my crown has not grown back but I have not lost ANY more hair, my sides and top are thick at least twice the hair there than before,

so in your eyes, because I didnt regrow ALL MY HAIR including my slick spot in the crown, then that means my regimen and dht blockers are garbage and they dont work…right?

this confirms you are a moron,

I would like to take a poll on the board, and ask

If you are still balding, and I could guarantee you that you wont lose any more hair, for the rest of your life, but if you have a bald spot , that wont grow back…however your thinning areas will thicken considerably…would you say that regimen didnt work

I would love to see the answer to that

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You could not guarantee that people would not lose more hair on your DHT blocker regimen.

Help me and everyone else here to understand your hair loss condition:

  1. You have a bald crown, with a touch of peach fuzz.
  2. You have a receding frontal hairline, which according to you has, until recently, only been able to produce “baby hairs.”
  3. You have gobs of hair on the sides of your head.
  4. You have gobs of hair in the back of your head.

I mean, really sir, if you were to come to our home, selling Hangin’s Hair Loss Remedy, do you honestly think that anyone would buy it, that anyone here would take you seriously, given that potential customers could see you face to face?