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Obama is helping stem cell research


#1

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16007-obama-plans-to-sweep-bush-stemcell-restrictions-aside.html

This should hopefully speed things up even more!


#2

» http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16007-obama-plans-to-sweep-bush-stemcell-restrictions-aside.html
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» This should hopefully speed things up even more!

No he will legalize EMBYONIC stem cell research which is just an idiotic political issue because it allows the destruction of a fetus to harvest embryonic stem cells. If you do a little research you will see that scientists already found a way to harvest embryonic stem cells from other sources and even create new lines of embryonic stem cells by manipulating different kinds of cells. Embryonic stem cell research is alive and well, however the pipeline for cures using embryonic stem cells is not overflowing because use of the cells tends to promote cancer. However use of Adult stem cells is showing promising results in almost everything from hair replacement to new organ generation. Look for new cures using bone marrow as well. This issue is highly touted by Cocaine Osama supporters, but at the end of the day its all hype and no substance just like the man himself. Hair-loss will be cured ultimately someday by modifying adult stem cells to reprogram the skin on your scalp. Until that day just keep blaming Bush and of course refuse delivery on any fact that interferes with your world view.
Semper Fi


#3

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» http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16007-obama-plans-to-sweep-bush-stemcell-restrictions-aside.html
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» » This should hopefully speed things up even more!
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» No he will legalize EMBYONIC stem cell research which is just an idiotic
» political issue because it allows the destruction of a fetus to harvest
» embryonic stem cells. If you do a little research you will see that
» scientists already found a way to harvest embryonic stem cells from other
» sources and even create new lines of embryonic stem cells by manipulating
» different kinds of cells. Embryonic stem cell research is alive and well,
» however the pipeline for cures using embryonic stem cells is not
» overflowing because use of the cells tends to promote cancer. However use
» of Adult stem cells is showing promising results in almost everything from
» hair replacement to new organ generation. Look for new cures using bone
» marrow as well. This issue is highly touted by Cocaine Osama supporters,
» but at the end of the day its all hype and no substance just like the man
» himself. Hair-loss will be cured ultimately someday by modifying adult
» stem cells to reprogram the skin on your scalp. Until that day just keep
» blaming Bush and of course refuse delivery on any fact that interferes with
» your world view.
» Semper Fi

Dead on, salty dog.


#4

I think this is oversimplifying the issue a little. Some things to consider:

  1. Bush sidelined embryonic stem cell research long before any viable method of propagating lines without destroying a fetus were available.

  2. It is unclear whether some of these new methods will actually circumvent Bush’s decision. The ‘jury’ is still out on this one, and this method is not being used in the United States on any significant scale.

  3. We don’t know yet if these lines will be as viable as lines created in the traditional way, and we may not know this for some time. One might argue that enough time has been wasted by Bush’s decision.

  4. It is very true that thus far, adult stem cells have shown more potential than embryonic stem cells; this does not however detract from the worth of using embryonic stem cells. It may well be a rockier road to usable embryonic stem cell solutions, but that doesn’t mean that road should not be taken.

I agree anyway that it’s an idiotic political issue. It has been from the start, when Bush put the kaibosh on embryonic stem cell line creation in the first place. We need a better reason to limit a potentially revolutionary line of research than because Bush doesn’t like the idea.

» marrow as well. This issue is highly touted by Cocaine Osama supporters,

Wow. Now there’s mature discourse…


#5

I dont think that anyone in this planet can , right now, discard or discredit Embryonic stem cells as being cancer causing, babies dont have particular high rates of Cancer after all. Also you cant say that Embryonic stem cells are not cure promising, In fact that political veto over them, HALTED almost every research on them as research was in its 1st steps in that field. In other words its still pretty uncharted territories.


#6

Few people realize that the debate over embryonic stem cell research revolves around in vitro fertilization clinics. The right to lifers cannot figure out if in vitro fertilization should be allowed, because if they deny it, they deny the right to life for the children who are born using this technique.

A side product of each in vitro fertilization birth is a large number of unused embryos. These are typically stored in cold storage (I suppose until no longer viable), washed down the sink, or thrown away. Scientists want to use the otherwise discarded embryos for embryonic stem cell research. However, the right to lifers have a problem with this, so they circumvent the issue by failing to inform voters of the full set of facts. Interestingly, most right to lifers don’t have a problem with creating and destroying embryos but they have an extreme problem with extracting the stem cells from the embryos prior to their destruction. I don’t know why that is, but I suspect it’s because its easier to deny the problem exists than figure out a realistic solution.

Thus, I agree this is a BS political issue as all of the embryos to perform embryonic stem cell research are being birthed and destroyed on a daily basis. Yet, the politicians rarely mention this fact and instead close their eyes on the real issue–should in vitro fertilization be outlawed or should it be allowed along with allowing the destroyed embryos to be used for embryonic stem cell research?

As far as converting adult cells to embryonic cells, I think it is important to keep in mind, the researchers who have gotten closest say that embryonic stem cell research should still be pursued. Especially considering creating embryonic stem cells in this manner currently carries extreme health risks that will take many years to resolve if ever.


#7

“These willy-nilly changes to the cells’ DNA could disrupt the cells’ own genes, occasionally in ways that cause the cells to grow out of control and form a tumor. In addition to this risk, any process that alters a cell’s DNA complicates government approval for medical use.”

The bottom line: It’s currently best to manipulate the cells as little as possible. Maybe scientists can get the bugs worked out of adult to embryonic research over the course of the next decade or two. Until then, it’s best to continue to research techniques that don’t involve genetic manipulation (i.e. embryonic) as well because millions of people are suffering in the meantime who could potentially benefit from this research.

Scientists should not have their thoughts restricted unless there is a proven moral benefit (thinking outside the box is imperative when performing scientific research). The moral benefit behind restricting the use of embryonic stem cells remains unproven.

Thus, the right to lifers need to solve the in vitro fertilization paradox before they have a legitimate argument against the use of embryonic stem cells. If they want to outlaw in vitro fertilization, then they should concentrate their efforts there as it is the capstone of the issue. Once that is achieved, the next step would be to institute a ban on the creation of new embryos for scientific research.

Until then, embryos are created and unnecessarily destroyed everyday while their use for govt. backed research remains illegal. This is a tragedy that exemplifies human ignorance.