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#1

I know I need to see a doctor , but I also wanted the people that have had HT their opinions of how many grafts or hair I need for the front and the hairline. I have been told between 1500 to 2000 to get a 30/40 cm2 coverage.

I wear a system, but for the past 3 weeks I didn’t shave my head just to see the difference and I took a pic as well. The pics maynot be the best since it was taken by a phone camera. The first pic is one week after I had shaven my head and the second pic is 3 weeks after I had shaven my head.

How much grafts do you think I may need to have a good coveage in the front.

Thanks,


#2

Hey Tony,

Its very difficult to tell with those photos. I would let your hair grow out a few more weeks and take some better quality photos a little further away from your scalp. Some photos from the front would help as well.

In the mean time, look over the results people have posted on this site from all doctors. You will see a great variety of cases with different amount of grafts being used. Look for people who had similar hairloss as yourself and take not in how many grafts they received and the result they have.

  • Pats

#3

Tony, are you wanting to build a natural, undetectable hairline, then wear a piece behind it?

That would obviously change the approach for sure. However, it seems to be more common of late.

If not, I would need to see better pics to give a proper estimate—also some pics of the donor as well.

Take Care,
Jason


#4

I want to get rid of the system once and for all… I will take more pics then I can post it. Thanks!

» Tony, are you wanting to build a natural, undetectable hairline, then wear
» a piece behind it?
»
» That would obviously change the approach for sure. However, it seems to be
» more common of late.
»
» If not, I would need to see better pics to give a proper estimate—also
» some pics of the donor as well.
»
» Take Care,
» Jason


#5

Tony, Are you on any meds at all? If not, I would suggest you do that first as you need to stop your hairloss first. Go see a doc to see about propecia and get yourself on rogaine foam immediately. You might be surprised at the results from those methods alone. Give the meds 6 to 12 months and then re-evaluate your situation.


#6

I’m not on any med. My hairloss stopped long time ago, what you see in the pics are hair transplant hair…

» Tony, Are you on any meds at all? If not, I would suggest you do that
» first as you need to stop your hairloss first. Go see a doc to see about
» propecia and get yourself on rogaine foam immediately. You might be
» surprised at the results from those methods alone. Give the meds 6 to 12
» months and then re-evaluate your situation.


#7

I know readers of this forum are very concerned and feel down about losing your hair. I felt the same way starting at 18 when it began for me. However, you don’t have to go through my horrible experience with my hair transplant “doctor” (described below)! Not to mention forking over your hard-earned savings to him! Regarding treating hair loss, my recommendation (reasons described below also) is Avodart instead of Propecia.

Very Important: The before/after photos that many Hair Transplant surgeons show you are VERY MISLEADING because:

  • Many doctors only show their best top 5% patients, and don’t show you the average result or, as in my case, the bad results.
  • The photos are typically low resolution, so may not clearly show the hairline or may be in low light, thereby concealing the thin density and unnatural look of the transplants.

I am a former patient of E. Antonio Mangubat (M) of Seattle, Washington, USA and my advice is whatever you do, DO NOT go to M for any hair transplant procedures!!! I have described below in detail my horrible experience with Mangubat (M). I’m not a doctor, but below are my recommendations (based on my experience) for treating hairloss.

I was also in my mid 20s when I signed up as M’s patient. He suggested that I get 3-4 transplant sessions and 1-2 Scalp reduction surgeries (called “Brandy” procedures after Dr. Dominic Brandy http://www.brandymd.com/ ). The worst decision I ever made in my life was to follow M’s advice and have these procedures done. M left me SCARRED and DISFIGURED!!! BTW, Dr Brandy was sued in part for performing the “Brandy” scalp reduction procedure: http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19960915&slug=2349352

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=PG&p_theme=pg&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EADFA0E15FC891D&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM )

I know this sounds unreal, but anyone who has a consult with M should ask him about the “Brandy” scalp reduction procedure and ask to see before/after photos of Brandy procedures. If he dismisses your request (says you don’t need a Brandy) and refuses to show photos, ask yourself why is M refusing to show his own work? Is he hiding something? If you get to see the photos, look closely (even though he’ll show small Polaroid pics) and you’ll notice a thick straight or horseshoe-shaped scar ¼ - ½ inch from 1 temple to the crown and back to the other temple with no hair growing there. Beware that M may show you “after” photos with the surrounding hair combed over the scars. This is nothing less than totally misleading and a LIE because it doesn’t show the true result which is 1-2 scars 6-8 inches long and ¼ - ½ inch thick in the middle of your head from the temples to the crown!!! M left me with such a horrible scar and I’ve undergone numerous reconstructive surgeries, spending over $20K, to reduce the scars.

Although M may not recommend a Brandy surgery on you, I mention this procedure for this reason: what does the Doctor care about most: your welfare and your well-being OR the money he’ll make from you?? In my case, without a doubt M only cared about the money! Otherwise he would have stopped himself from doing what he did to me, particularly the 2 Brandy procedures. He didn’t know what he was doing and he didn’t care! So in my opinion, he’s definitely NOT a doctor to be in the care of!

You should also ask M (or your hair transplant doctor) about the scar in the back of your head (the donor area) after any hair transplant procedure. M told me about all my scars that they will eventually “blend” with the surrounding skin and look much less prominent. That was a COMPLETE LIE!!! The scars will be with you for life with no hairs growing in that area ever.

I did a few quick searches and found M in his own words praising the “benefits” of scalp reduction surgery (see below). This kind of surgery (the Brandy procedure) is what left me totally scarred and disfigured!! So much for the “benefits”!!

M’s own words speak volumes on his incompetence and the fact that he’s clueless and oblivious to the harm he’s done to many like me. Here are the links:

http://www.regrowth.com/hairloss-conferences/american_society_hair_restoration_surgery/1998/ashrs_monday.cfm

The Rise and Fall of Scalp Flaps, Reductions and Lifts

[Tony Mangubat of Seattle, WA is one of the leading doctors performing scalp reductions. “I’ve noticed in the Seattle area over the last two years a fall in the area of scalp reductions… I was a little disappointed in it, and I was almost upset until I started looking at it in a more objective way… the answer to this question becomes very clear.” Dr.Mangubat outlined his feelings on reductions and why he thinks the number of doctors performing the procedure has decreased. “We want fast results, we want a home run… Managed care has caused an influx of newcomers. The fact is I make more income off of hair transplants than scalp lifting, so from a financial point of view maybe it’s not such a bad idea…” The fall has been precipitated by an influx of newcomers due to doctors who are earning less due to managed care and HMOs. “These are all victims of our new managed care society,” said Dr. Mangubat. Doctors coming in have been resistent to learning reductions, flaps, and lifts due to the steeper learning curve, greater risks, and marketing against reductions. The number of doctors performing are remaining steady, but the number of doctors coming into transplants are growing, so the overall percentage are lower.]

Please note that the following is based on my personal experience and not medical advice:

Regarding hair loss, my advice is don’t go for hair transplants. Instead, if you still have quite a bit of hair left, make an appointment with your family physician asap and ask him/her about taking Avodart for stopping hairloss.

Apart from Avodart, the other 2 best known medications, Rogaine(minoxidol) and Propecia, are not as effective as Avodart which stops both kinds of DHT (the hormone that causes hairloss). Minoxidol is a waste of money for most people since it only works for a few people and Propecia is good (because it blocks 1 kind of DHT) but not as good as Avodart. Avodart will most likely not regrow any hair you’ve already lost but it will let you keep the hair you have now. Also, although both Propecia and Avodart have potentially harmful side effects (e.g. reduced sex drive), I have been taking Avodart for the past 2+ years with no side effects.

If I could do it over again, I would have NEVER trusted M and NEVER let M lay a hand on me. Instead, I would have just accepted my baldness and not done any hair transplants; I would have shaved my head while we wait for a cure.

Unfortunately, M left me with huge scars on my head and so I can’t just shave my head. Instead I’m forced to wear concealers to hide the ugly scars on my head. Anyone considering M does not have to go through what I’ve been through. So I strongly recommend that YOU STAY AWAY FROM MANGUBAT!!


#8

» I know readers of this forum are very concerned and feel down about losing
» your hair. I felt the same way starting at 18 when it began for me.
» However, you don’t have to go through my horrible experience with my hair
» transplant “doctor” (described below)! Not to mention forking over your
» hard-earned savings to him! Regarding treating hair loss, my recommendation
» (reasons described below also) is Avodart instead of Propecia.
»
» Very Important: The before/after photos that many Hair Transplant surgeons
» show you are VERY MISLEADING because:
» - Many doctors only show their best top 5% patients, and don’t show you
» the average result or, as in my case, the bad results.
» - The photos are typically low resolution, so may not clearly show the
» hairline or may be in low light, thereby concealing the thin density and
» unnatural look of the transplants.
»
» I am a former patient of E. Antonio Mangubat (M) of Seattle, Washington,
» USA and my advice is whatever you do, DO NOT go to M for any hair
» transplant procedures!!! I have described below in detail my horrible
» experience with Mangubat (M). I’m not a doctor, but below are my
» recommendations (based on my experience) for treating hairloss.
»
» I was also in my mid 20s when I signed up as M’s patient. He suggested
» that I get 3-4 transplant sessions and 1-2 Scalp reduction surgeries
» (called “Brandy” procedures after Dr. Dominic Brandy
» http://www.brandymd.com/ ). The worst decision I ever made in my life was
» to follow M’s advice and have these procedures done. M left me SCARRED and
» DISFIGURED!!! BTW, Dr Brandy was sued in part for performing the “Brandy”
» scalp reduction procedure:
» http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19960915&slug=2349352
»
»
» http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=PG&p_theme=pg&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EADFA0E15FC891D&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM
» )
»
» I know this sounds unreal, but anyone who has a consult with M should ask
» him about the “Brandy” scalp reduction procedure and ask to see
» before/after photos of Brandy procedures. If he dismisses your request
» (says you don’t need a Brandy) and refuses to show photos, ask yourself why
» is M refusing to show his own work? Is he hiding something? If you get to
» see the photos, look closely (even though he’ll show small Polaroid pics)
» and you’ll notice a thick straight or horseshoe-shaped scar ¼ - ½ inch from
» 1 temple to the crown and back to the other temple with no hair growing
» there. Beware that M may show you “after” photos with the surrounding hair
» combed over the scars. This is nothing less than totally misleading and a
» LIE because it doesn’t show the true result which is 1-2 scars 6-8 inches
» long and ¼ - ½ inch thick in the middle of your head from the temples to
» the crown!!! M left me with such a horrible scar and I’ve undergone
» numerous reconstructive surgeries, spending over $20K, to reduce the scars.
»
»
» Although M may not recommend a Brandy surgery on you, I mention this
» procedure for this reason: what does the Doctor care about most: your
» welfare and your well-being OR the money he’ll make from you?? In my case,
» without a doubt M only cared about the money! Otherwise he would have
» stopped himself from doing what he did to me, particularly the 2 Brandy
» procedures. He didn’t know what he was doing and he didn’t care! So in my
» opinion, he’s definitely NOT a doctor to be in the care of!
»
» You should also ask M (or your hair transplant doctor) about the scar in
» the back of your head (the donor area) after any hair transplant procedure.
» M told me about all my scars that they will eventually “blend” with the
» surrounding skin and look much less prominent. That was a COMPLETE LIE!!!
» The scars will be with you for life with no hairs growing in that area
» ever.
»
» I did a few quick searches and found M in his own words praising the
» “benefits” of scalp reduction surgery (see below). This kind of surgery
» (the Brandy procedure) is what left me totally scarred and disfigured!! So
» much for the “benefits”!!
»
» M’s own words speak volumes on his incompetence and the fact that he’s
» clueless and oblivious to the harm he’s done to many like me. Here are the
» links:
»
» http://www.regrowth.com/hairloss-conferences/american_society_hair_restoration_surgery/1998/ashrs_monday.cfm
»
» The Rise and Fall of Scalp Flaps, Reductions and Lifts
»
» [Tony Mangubat of Seattle, WA is one of the leading doctors performing
» scalp reductions. “I’ve noticed in the Seattle area over the last two
» years a fall in the area of scalp reductions… I was a little disappointed
» in it, and I was almost upset until I started looking at it in a more
» objective way… the answer to this question becomes very clear.”
» Dr.Mangubat outlined his feelings on reductions and why he thinks the
» number of doctors performing the procedure has decreased. “We want fast
» results, we want a home run… Managed care has caused an influx of
» newcomers. The fact is I make more income off of hair transplants than
» scalp lifting, so from a financial point of view maybe it’s not such a bad
» idea…” The fall has been precipitated by an influx of newcomers due to
» doctors who are earning less due to managed care and HMOs. “These are all
» victims of our new managed care society,” said Dr. Mangubat. Doctors
» coming in have been resistent to learning reductions, flaps, and lifts due
» to the steeper learning curve, greater risks, and marketing against
» reductions. The number of doctors performing are remaining steady, but the
» number of doctors coming into transplants are growing, so the overall
» percentage are lower.]
»
» Please note that the following is based on my personal experience and not
» medical advice:
» -------
» Regarding hair loss, my advice is don’t go for hair transplants. Instead,
» if you still have quite a bit of hair left, make an appointment with your
» family physician asap and ask him/her about taking Avodart for stopping
» hairloss.
»
» Apart from Avodart, the other 2 best known medications, Rogaine(minoxidol)
» and Propecia, are not as effective as Avodart which stops both kinds of DHT
» (the hormone that causes hairloss). Minoxidol is a waste of money for most
» people since it only works for a few people and Propecia is good (because
» it blocks 1 kind of DHT) but not as good as Avodart. Avodart will most
» likely not regrow any hair you’ve already lost but it will let you keep the
» hair you have now. Also, although both Propecia and Avodart have
» potentially harmful side effects (e.g. reduced sex drive), I have been
» taking Avodart for the past 2+ years with no side effects.
» -------
»
» If I could do it over again, I would have NEVER trusted M and NEVER let M
» lay a hand on me. Instead, I would have just accepted my baldness and not
» done any hair transplants; I would have shaved my head while we wait for a
» cure.
»
» Unfortunately, M left me with huge scars on my head and so I can’t just
» shave my head. Instead I’m forced to wear concealers to hide the ugly scars
» on my head. Anyone considering M does not have to go through what I’ve been
» through. So I strongly recommend that YOU STAY AWAY FROM MANGUBAT!!

Hi, Tony,

this writer had a very bad experience, what should lead to the cognition, that the best you can do is…to investigate long enough to find the right clinic and the best doctor for HT.
As I have many experience in HT, also strip and fue surgeries, I can give you advice.
Regarding propecia, advodart or Regaine I would say the same.
But regarding HT, there was a great progress in the possibilities in the last years.
One of the best doctors in the world is Dr.Armani from Armani clinic in Toronto.
You can trust what he says. I would make an appointmant with him. Or use the online consultation and send him some fotos.
I was bald in zone 1 and 2 and with thinning hair in zone 3 and 4. Dr. Armani restored my hair already in the zones 1, 2 and 3 with a very natural hairline
and a very good density.
Have a look on my fotos.
As a support to prevent further hairloss, I take a quarter of Proscar per day.
Proscar is a 5 mg Finasterid tablet and much cheaper than Propecia.


#9

» I want to get rid of the system once and for all… I will take more pics
» then I can post it. Thanks!
»

Hey Tony,

Did you ever post any better photos??