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NBC, Matt Lauer, FOLLICA interview


#1

Paste that to your toolbar for a intro into what they are trying to do.


#2

Very interesting, but how can human trials only take 3 years?


#3

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» Paste that to your toolbar for a intro into what they are trying to do.

Thank you Benji, but this time I am not going to pay too much attention
to these “potentially” wonderful treatments.

If these guys had something really good, they wouldn’t be on TV losing time, making headlines, trying to convince illiterate mass audiences, that they are going to do something worthy. There is no point. They don’t have a product to sell yet, so what are they doing advertising something that is not yet ready???

3 years??? WTF, this is not possible even in the best case scenario.

If they had something worthy, they would be in the lab, working in secret, whithout the pressure of the media and the public (this is very important), until they have the stuff ready, and then BAM! go to the media with REAL PHOTOS OF REGROWTH!! and a product ready for sell. and then all the world would pay attention to them immediatelly.
They don’t need anything else.

In fact, I liked ICX because they were making so little noise all this time.

I have learned the lesson.
Growing hair on mice is very easy.


#4

Follica’s method is simple and straightforward.

1)They will dermabrate or CO2 laser the skin to remove the epilithial layer.

2)After skin re-epilithialization in 3-5 days (human skin), they will either give you a few pills to take for one week or give you a topical to use for about one week.

Thats it.

They will want you to not use any healing ointment on your head post abrasion or any bandages or possibly any shampooing either for perhaps a week after the wounding.

The drugs used are already FDA approved.
Dermabrasion is already FDA approved
.

So an FDA safety trial will be uneccessary…as all components of the process are already approved in humans. They merely need to show efficacy in creating NEW HAIRS…not “improving hair growth”

Im MERELY hoping it works in the donor area to create more hairs back there to be available to be trasnplanted up front, but if it grows good hair up front, so much the better.

Id hoped to be able to really intelligently discuss this…but am beginning to see that this isn’t going to happen, so I’ll just wait like anyone else.

If anyone wants to be in Follica’s trials, they have an email addy on their website for people who are interested in that. I live a long way from Pennsylvania, so I think I can wait. They will go into testing over the summer.

Cotsarialis works at the University of Pennsylvania and thats where trials will almost certainly take place.


#5

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» http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=3b251041-8028-403d-a6fc-e749264afc01
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» » Paste that to your toolbar for a intro into what they are trying to do.
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» Thank you Benji, but this time I am not going to pay too much attention
» to these “potentially” wonderful treatments.
»
» If these guys had something really good, they wouldn’t be on TV losing
» time, making headlines, trying to convince illiterate mass audiences, that
» they are going to do something worthy. There is no point. They don’t have a
» product to sell yet, so what are they doing advertising something that is
» not yet ready???
»
» 3 years??? WTF, they know that this is not possible even in the best case
» scenario. They are lying like rats.
»
» If they had something worthy, they would be in the lab, working in secret,
» whithout the pressure of the media and the public (this is very important),
» until they have the stuff ready, and then BAM! go to the media with REAL
» PHOTOS OF REGROWTH!! and a product ready for sell. and then all the world
» would pay attention to them immediatelly.
» They don’t need anything else.
»
» In fact, I liked ICX because they were making so little noise all this
» time.
» Until recently. All the PR campaign started recently, and this is
» preciselly when things started to go wrong. This is not by chance. When
» they start the hype on the media, it is because things doesn’t work, they
» are having problems, they need money, etc.
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» I have learned the lesson.
» Growing hair on mice is very easy.

If you feel like this…you might consider retiring from the website because nothing else new is coming down the pike. ICX, Aderans, and Follica are “it”. There is nothing else that will create “new” hair out there or even being reserched that I know of. Its either one of these three entities or nothing.


#6

» If you feel like this…you might consider retiring from
» the website because nothing else new is coming down the pike. ICX,
» Aderans, and Follica are “it”. There is nothing else that will create
» “new” hair out there or even being reserched that I know of. Its either
» one of these three entities or nothing.

yes, in fact I was basically retired from Hairsite. Just reading casually, and posting when there is important news.

I will read this forum from time to time, yes, but I won’t read deeply into the procedures. If they are doing clinical trials, I will read the results, of course.


#7

Ok, Benji, I am sorry that I can help you in an intelligent, in depth, discussion about Follica, but I have promised myself not to mess anymore with all the technical details of these treatments. It is pointless. I am not an expert, so things could look good to me on patents, etc, but at the end of the road, this means nothing about the efficacy of the product.

e.g. ICX published a patent about the new multiplication method, that solved the lack of DP cells. Everything looked easy then. But now it seems that the number of cells is not so important.

You say that Follica’s ingredients are FDA validated. Thats interesting, thanks for the info.

We will see how it goes, but I personally would not spend much time with in-deep speculations about how the cells interact, etc etc.

» Follica’s method is simple and straightforward.
»
»
» 1)They will dermabrate or CO2 laser the skin to remove the
» epilithial layer.
»
»
» 2)After skin re-epilithialization in 3-5 days (human skin), they will
» either give you a few pills to take for one week or give you a topical to
» use for about one week.
»
» Thats it.
»
»
» They will want you to not use any healing ointment on your head post
» abrasion or any bandages or possibly any shampooing either for perhaps a
» week after the wounding.
»
»
»
» The drugs used are already FDA approved.
» Dermabrasion is already FDA approved
.
»
»
»
» So an FDA safety trial will be uneccessary…as all components
» of the process are already approved in humans. They merely need to show
» efficacy in creating NEW HAIRS…not “improving hair growth”
»
»
»
» Im MERELY hoping it works in the donor area to create more hairs back
» there to be available to be trasnplanted up front, but if it grows good
» hair up front, so much the better.

»
»
» Id hoped to be able to really intelligently discuss this…but
» am beginning to see that this isn’t going to happen, so I’ll just wait
» like anyone else.
»
»
»
» If anyone wants to be in Follica’s trials, they have an email addy on
» their website for people who are interested in that. I live a long way
» from Pennsylvania, so I think I can wait. They will go into testing over
» the summer.
»
»
»
»
» Cotsarialis works at the University of Pennsylvania and thats where trials
» will almost certainly take place.


#8

» » If you feel like this…you might consider retiring from
» » the website because nothing else new is coming down the pike. ICX,
» » Aderans, and Follica are “it”. There is nothing else that will create
» » “new” hair out there or even being reserched that I know of. Its either
» » one of these three entities or nothing.
»
» yes, in fact I was basically retired from Hairsite. Just reading casually,
» and posting when there is important news.
»
» I will read this forum from time to time, yes, but I won’t read deeply
» into the procedures. If they are doing clinical trials, I will read the
» results, of course.

I think a number of people feel the same way (me included). Since there really doesn’t appear to be any HM news on the horizon, there’s not much point in coming here any more.

I guess we’ll just have to find out about Follica as they release new info. Meanwhile, I’ll be swinging for the fences with the ladies. You can’t hit a homerun if you don’t make the effort, and to hell with the strikeouts–no one’s perfect.

Get out there, fellas!


#9

» Follica’s method is simple and straightforward.
»
»
» 1)They will dermabrate or CO2 laser the skin to remove the
» epilithial layer.
»
»
» 2)After skin re-epilithialization in 3-5 days (human skin), they will
» either give you a few pills to take for one week or give you a topical to
» use for about one week.
»
» Thats it.
»
»
» They will want you to not use any healing ointment on your head post
» abrasion or any bandages or possibly any shampooing either for perhaps a
» week after the wounding.
»
»
»
» The drugs used are already FDA approved.
» Dermabrasion is already FDA approved
.
»
»
»
» So an FDA safety trial will be uneccessary…as all components
» of the process are already approved in humans. They merely need to show
» efficacy in creating NEW HAIRS…not “improving hair growth”
»
»
»
» Im MERELY hoping it works in the donor area to create more hairs back
» there to be available to be trasnplanted up front, but if it grows good
» hair up front, so much the better.

»
»
» Id hoped to be able to really intelligently discuss this…but
» am beginning to see that this isn’t going to happen, so I’ll just wait
» like anyone else.
»
»
»
» If anyone wants to be in Follica’s trials, they have an email addy on
» their website for people who are interested in that. I live a long way
» from Pennsylvania, so I think I can wait. They will go into testing over
» the summer.
»
»
»
»
» Cotsarialis works at the University of Pennsylvania and thats where trials
» will almost certainly take place.

Hi Benji

I definitely would like to discuss this procedure as a possible cure. You seem pretty knowledgeable already on the procedure. I was wondering in the removal of the epilithial layer is that also any removal of hair in that area as well?

Since this procedure uses products already approved by the FDA then what sort of trials are they conducting? Are they conducting trials only then to prove to themselves that this procedure works on humans.

Assuming this technique does work and can restore hair in both donor area and in the area hair was lost won’t this newly created hair be prone to DHT and we would have to see our hair fall out again?

This is an interesting technique one in which I would like to learn more about as I only know what Intercytex was trying to accomplish.


#10

benji, I was curious, where did you find out Folica is starting trials this summer? Is it posted on their website? Thanks.

» Follica’s method is simple and straightforward.
»
»
» 1)They will dermabrate or CO2 laser the skin to remove the
» epilithial layer.
»
»
» 2)After skin re-epilithialization in 3-5 days (human skin), they will
» either give you a few pills to take for one week or give you a topical to
» use for about one week.
»
» Thats it.
»
»
» They will want you to not use any healing ointment on your head post
» abrasion or any bandages or possibly any shampooing either for perhaps a
» week after the wounding.
»
»
»
» The drugs used are already FDA approved.
» Dermabrasion is already FDA approved
.
»
»
»
» So an FDA safety trial will be uneccessary…as all components
» of the process are already approved in humans. They merely need to show
» efficacy in creating NEW HAIRS…not “improving hair growth”
»
»
»
» Im MERELY hoping it works in the donor area to create more hairs back
» there to be available to be trasnplanted up front, but if it grows good
» hair up front, so much the better.

»
»
» Id hoped to be able to really intelligently discuss this…but
» am beginning to see that this isn’t going to happen, so I’ll just wait
» like anyone else.
»
»
»
» If anyone wants to be in Follica’s trials, they have an email addy on
» their website for people who are interested in that. I live a long way
» from Pennsylvania, so I think I can wait. They will go into testing over
» the summer.
»
»
»
»
» Cotsarialis works at the University of Pennsylvania and thats where trials
» will almost certainly take place.