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My conversation with Hair Science Institute


#1

First of all, let me say that I am neither supporting nor trying to discredit Gho or the HSI. I just want to get to the bottom of this issue to see whether it works or not. If it works, great, I look forward to getting my hair back. If not, that’s fine, I’ll cross it off the list and look elsewhere. Either way, I want to find out for sure and if we do nothing but sit on our computers posting messages on this site we won’t get anywhere. I’ve emailed several doctors already but have not heard any replies, which is not surprising. I am also a little perplexed by the response from Dr. Woods. Having not tried the procedure at all, he immediately discredits it because he says in his experience transection destroys the follicles. But this is transection with a specialized needle and with a proprietary growth solution. And maybe this new transection technique is all BS, but isn’t it scientific procedure to start with a hypothesis, conduct an experiment and then come to a conclusion? Dr. Woods seems to have arrived at his conclusion without experimentation. I have great respect for Dr. Woods and he may well be proved correct, but I find his stance perplexing.

Anyway, onto the point of my post. I spoke to a doctor at HSI. Summary of key points:

  • Going from NW6 to NW2 is possible given unlimited time and funds.
  • Donor regrowth is measured and is guaranteed (if I were to go ahead, I would want donor regrowth as a clause in my contract - no regrowth, no payment)
  • Why no better pictures? Apparently many patients do not want pictures on the internet. But he was willing to show me pictures if I came into the clinic in person
  • Happy to put me in touch with former patients. Once I receive their contact details, I will follow up and see what they have to say

That’s all he had time for. Doctor seemed actually quite anxious to get back to whatever he was doing, and didn’t try to sell me on the procedure at all. They are booked out until December.

Would be great if others could also call and see if they get the same response. It beats doing nothing and not progressing.


#2

» First of all, let me say that I am neither supporting nor trying to
» discredit Gho or the HSI. I just want to get to the bottom of this issue to
» see whether it works or not. If it works, great, I look forward to getting
» my hair back. If not, that’s fine, I’ll cross it off the list and look
» elsewhere. Either way, I want to find out for sure and if we do nothing but
» sit on our computers posting messages on this site we won’t get anywhere.
» I’ve emailed several doctors already but have not heard any replies, which
» is not surprising. I am also a little perplexed by the response from Dr.
» Woods. Having not tried the procedure at all, he immediately discredits it
» because he says in his experience transection destroys the follicles. But
» this is transection with a specialized needle and with a proprietary growth
» solution. And maybe this new transection technique is all BS, but isn’t it
» scientific procedure to start with a hypothesis, conduct an experiment and
» then come to a conclusion? Dr. Woods seems to have arrived at his
» conclusion without experimentation. I have great respect for Dr. Woods and
» he may well be proved correct, but I find his stance perplexing.
»
» Anyway, onto the point of my post. I spoke to a doctor at HSI. Summary of
» key points:
» - Going from NW6 to NW2 is possible given unlimited time and funds.
» - Donor regrowth is measured and is guaranteed (if I were to go ahead, I
» would want donor regrowth as a clause in my contract - no regrowth, no
» payment)
» - Why no better pictures? Apparently many patients do not want pictures on
» the internet. But he was willing to show me pictures if I came into the
» clinic in person
» - Happy to put me in touch with former patients. Once I receive their
» contact details, I will follow up and see what they have to say
»
» That’s all he had time for. Doctor seemed actually quite anxious to get
» back to whatever he was doing, and didn’t try to sell me on the procedure
» at all. They are booked out until December.
»
» Would be great if others could also call and see if they get the same
» response. It beats doing nothing and not progressing.

jo, im not sure flooding his clinic with phone calls is the best option.


#3

Thanks Leonard.

But:
» » - Going from NW6 to NW2 is possible given unlimited time and funds.

You better call back the doctor to find out what this means.

» » - Donor regrowth is measured and is guaranteed (if I were to go ahead,
» I
» » would want donor regrowth as a clause in my contract - no regrowth, no
» » payment)
» » - Why no better pictures? Apparently many patients do not want pictures
» on
» » the internet. But he was willing to show me pictures if I came into the
» » clinic in person

weird. The faces of the patients are normally not shown in the photos. A little persuasion would convince them to let the pictures posted.

» » - Happy to put me in touch with former patients. Once I receive their
» » contact details, I will follow up and see what they have to say

thats cool if true. But how it is possible. The patients don’t want pictures of their scalps in the internet, but they allow to be visited by potential patients?

» »
» » That’s all he had time for. Doctor seemed actually quite anxious to get
» » back to whatever he was doing, and didn’t try to sell me on the
» procedure
» » at all. They are booked out until December.

okay, if you visit Gho and you take a look at those hidden photos and patients, maybe we can comment further.


#4

» First of all, let me say that I am neither supporting nor trying to
» discredit Gho or the HSI. I just want to get to the bottom of this issue to
» see whether it works or not. If it works, great, I look forward to getting
» my hair back. If not, that’s fine, I’ll cross it off the list and look
» elsewhere. Either way, I want to find out for sure and if we do nothing but
» sit on our computers posting messages on this site we won’t get anywhere.
» I’ve emailed several doctors already but have not heard any replies, which
» is not surprising. I am also a little perplexed by the response from Dr.
» Woods. Having not tried the procedure at all, he immediately discredits it
» because he says in his experience transection destroys the follicles. But
» this is transection with a specialized needle and with a proprietary growth
» solution. And maybe this new transection technique is all BS, but isn’t it
» scientific procedure to start with a hypothesis, conduct an experiment and
» then come to a conclusion? Dr. Woods seems to have arrived at his
» conclusion without experimentation. I have great respect for Dr. Woods and
» he may well be proved correct, but I find his stance perplexing.
»
» Anyway, onto the point of my post. I spoke to a doctor at HSI. Summary of
» key points:
» - Going from NW6 to NW2 is possible given unlimited time and funds.
» - Donor regrowth is measured and is guaranteed (if I were to go ahead, I
» would want donor regrowth as a clause in my contract - no regrowth, no
» payment)
» - Why no better pictures? Apparently many patients do not want pictures on
» the internet. But he was willing to show me pictures if I came into the
» clinic in person
» - Happy to put me in touch with former patients. Once I receive their
» contact details, I will follow up and see what they have to say
»
» That’s all he had time for. Doctor seemed actually quite anxious to get
» back to whatever he was doing, and didn’t try to sell me on the procedure
» at all. They are booked out until December.
»
» Would be great if others could also call and see if they get the same
» response. It beats doing nothing and not progressing.

Leonard, thank you for taking the intiative in doing this. These responses sound more positive than I was expecting. I am especially interested in what previous patients would have to say, or perhaps even (maybe looking too far ahead) allow us to verify a regenerated donor. I and I am sure many others on this forum, would greatly appreciate you following this up. Cheers mate.


#5

Leonard,

Great job man! Thanks for taking positive action and keeping us all updated. It’s much appreciated.

I am encouraged that the doctor you spoke with unequivocally stated that NW6 to NW2 is possible (albeit expensive and time consuming). I hope that you will be able to see more patients in person and in pictures, and that their results ultimtely substantiate the doctor’s claims.

If this clinic lets you draft a contract that guarantees a high percentage of regrowth, I would have a lot more faith in them.


#6

» I just want to get to the bottom of this issue to
» see whether it works or not. If it works, great, I look forward to getting
» my hair back. If not, that’s fine, I’ll cross it off the list and look
» elsewhere. Either way, I want to find out for sure and if we do nothing but
» sit on our computers posting messages on this site we won’t get anywhere.

Good job Leonard. That’s more information than I got reading the endless back and forth between the various participants here.

I’m not going to get my hopes up as we’ve been down this path of hope leading to dispair many times.

The only question I hoped you’d ask Gho was when might this be ready for release?

I don’t suggest people start bombarding Gho’s office with phone calls. He might just get fed up with all the inquiries and shut the doors on any further communication.

I’ve suggested to Dr. Woods that he also try to replicate Gho’s experiment on leg/arm hair follicles instead of head hair follicles. But the man refuses to consider any such suggestion. I’m wonder if there is any other hair transplant doctor out there who might be willing to pick up the flag and try it out. Again I’m not saying experiment on head hair. Just try it out on arm/leg hair to see if the theory is plausible. From what I understand, Gho dips the transected follicle in his cell culture to improve its survival rate. Since we don’t have that cell culture, we cannot use it but even without it, if it can be proven that 1 out of 5 transplanted follicles (on the arm/leg) survives, its a major boost to verifying Gho’s theory. We are again not sure how the follicle transection is done but various ways can be tried.


#7

» Anyway, onto the point of my post. I spoke to a doctor at HSI. Summary of
» key points:
» - Going from NW6 to NW2 is possible given unlimited time and funds.
» - Donor regrowth is measured and is guaranteed (if I were to go ahead, I
» would want donor regrowth as a clause in my contract - no regrowth, no
» payment)
» - Why no better pictures? Apparently many patients do not want pictures on
» the internet. But he was willing to show me pictures if I came into the
» clinic in person
» - Happy to put me in touch with former patients. Once I receive their
» contact details, I will follow up and see what they have to say
»

You rock!

The clinics are swamped right now. People are viewing this as a cure for baldness. It’s an expensive procedure, and you have to wait almost a year between procedures. However, since you get 2 hairs for 1, the procedure is really only half as expensive as it seems.

Proving the donor regrowth is extremely easy. All a patient has to do is mark a small heavily harvested area using a tiny acupuncture needle and some temporary tattoo ink when they get back to the hotel the day of the procedure (obviously, it’s easier to have someone else do this than using a mirror). Take close-up photos for 10 days.

I expect certain HT docs are making a serious attempt to offer the procedure at their own clinics. This thing has game changer written all over it.