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» Hey everyone,
»
» I thought it would be easier to add updates and post pictures using a blog
» (after seeing it from someone on here). The main advantage is that all the
» pictures are laid out on the same blog page. Another cool feature is that
» you can enlarge and zoom into each picture by simply clicking on it. Tell
» me what you guys think about the layout:
»
» MuscleBoy’s blog w/frequent
» updates

I think you have overharvested yout donor for such a small donor area, and you continue to do this
I doubt you have more than 2-3000 grafts available if that, what happens if your crown totally goes bald in the future, you are screwed

His donor density seems very good I think he still have a lot to spare using FUE which allows follicles to be taken from the sides.

» His donor density seems very good I think he still have a lot to spare
» using FUE which allows follicles to be taken from the sides.

I have not seen many docs say you can reasonably expect more than 8000 grafts even with a combo of FUE and strip

hasnt he had about 8k grafts already?
like 5800 grafts last time and then like almost 2k grafts this time

I said he has like 3k at most left that would be 11k grafts which is WAY WAY MORE than most hair transplant docs would tell most guys to expect

where are all the extra grafts you are referring to going to come from?

Hanginthere, your numbers are quite off. I had a 3500 strip last time and a 1850 FUE this time. That brings the total number of grafts used to 5350 (no where near 8000+). Also, Dr. Armani did tell me that I had plenty of grafts still available for use. I always say that the Dr. knows best =). I really do appreciate your concern though.

I think if you do fue, you can get another 1000-1500 from both sides, I have seen doctors took from the sides before.

» Hanginthere, your numbers are quite off. I had a 3500 strip last time and a
» 1850 FUE this time. That brings the total number of grafts used to 5350 (no
» where near 8000+). Also, Dr. Armani did tell me that I had plenty of grafts
» still available for use. I always say that the Dr. knows best =). I really
» do appreciate your concern though.

ok my mistake
my apologies

» » Hanginthere, your numbers are quite off. I had a 3500 strip last time and
» a
» » 1850 FUE this time. That brings the total number of grafts used to 5350
» (no
» » where near 8000+). Also, Dr. Armani did tell me that I had plenty of
» grafts
» » still available for use. I always say that the Dr. knows best =). I
» really
» » do appreciate your concern though.
»
» ok my mistake
» my apologies

Armani seems to defy the logic of other surgeons. Do his numbers come from the fact that he often deals with young people who have not thined in the donor area or is he just able to get more grafts? Does he just not advertise the poor results or do all his patient get the wow effect? He said to me that 40-50 fu/cm2 just don’t do it in terms of fullness. That is true but he seems to cunjour up enough numbers to do the high density and preserve for the future… and he deos it well. It is dificult to trust one surgeon who’s philosophy flys in the face of all other approaches but that’s no insult and maybe a complement.

Oh, I’ve just seen you’ve been discussing this in the link
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry.php?id=9135&page=0&category=2&order=last_answer

» » » Hanginthere, your numbers are quite off. I had a 3500 strip last time
» and
» » a
» » » 1850 FUE this time. That brings the total number of grafts used to
» 5350
» » (no
» » » where near 8000+). Also, Dr. Armani did tell me that I had plenty of
» » grafts
» » » still available for use. I always say that the Dr. knows best =). I
» » really
» » » do appreciate your concern though.
» »
» » ok my mistake
» » my apologies
»
»
» Armani seems to defy the logic of other surgeons. Do his numbers come from
» the fact that he often deals with young people who have not thined in the
» donor area or is he just able to get more grafts? Does he just not
» advertise the poor results or do all his patient get the wow effect? He
» said to me that 40-50 fu/cm2 just don’t do it in terms of fullness. That
» is true but he seems to cunjour up enough numbers to do the high density
» and preserve for the future… and he deos it well. It is dificult to
» trust one surgeon who’s philosophy flys in the face of all other
» approaches but that’s no insult and maybe a complement.
»
» Oh, I’ve just seen you’ve been discussing this in the link
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry.php?id=9135&page=0&category=2&order=last_answer

my only concern is young guys with low NW levels using up 90 percent of their available donor…on about 30 percent of the top of their scalp

this to me , seems to be i want what i want when i want it

it looks great today, to have the thick density, only thing is what about when they go to a NW7 in 20 yrs, possibly
and they have about 1000 grafts left, they will look like a freak with a thick top front and then nothing behind it

» » » » Hanginthere, your numbers are quite off. I had a 3500 strip last
» time
» » and
» » » a
» » » » 1850 FUE this time. That brings the total number of grafts used to
» » 5350
» » » (no
» » » » where near 8000+). Also, Dr. Armani did tell me that I had plenty
» of
» » » grafts
» » » » still available for use. I always say that the Dr. knows best =). I
» » » really
» » » » do appreciate your concern though.
» » »
» » » ok my mistake
» » » my apologies
» »
» »
» » Armani seems to defy the logic of other surgeons. Do his numbers come
» from
» » the fact that he often deals with young people who have not thined in
» the
» » donor area or is he just able to get more grafts? Does he just not
» » advertise the poor results or do all his patient get the wow effect? He
» » said to me that 40-50 fu/cm2 just don’t do it in terms of fullness.
» That
» » is true but he seems to cunjour up enough numbers to do the high
» density
» » and preserve for the future… and he deos it well. It is dificult to
» » trust one surgeon who’s philosophy flys in the face of all other
» » approaches but that’s no insult and maybe a complement.
» »
» » Oh, I’ve just seen you’ve been discussing this in the link
» »
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry.php?id=9135&page=0&category=2&order=last_answer
»
» my only concern is young guys with low NW levels using up 90 percent of
» their available donor…on about 30 percent of the top
» of their scalp
»
» this to me , seems to be i want what i want when i want it
»
» it looks great today, to have the thick density, only thing is what about
» when they go to a NW7 in 20 yrs, possibly
» and they have about 1000 grafts left, they will look like a freak with a
» thick top front and then nothing behind it

If he uses a combination of strip and FUE he should have lots of donor left for future procedures.

» » » » » Hanginthere, your numbers are quite off. I had a 3500 strip last
» » time
» » » and
» » » » a
» » » » » 1850 FUE this time. That brings the total number of grafts used
» to
» » » 5350
» » » » (no
» » » » » where near 8000+). Also, Dr. Armani did tell me that I had plenty
» » of
» » » » grafts
» » » » » still available for use. I always say that the Dr. knows best =).
» I
» » » » really
» » » » » do appreciate your concern though.
» » » »
» » » » ok my mistake
» » » » my apologies
» » »
» » »
» » » Armani seems to defy the logic of other surgeons. Do his numbers come
» » from
» » » the fact that he often deals with young people who have not thined in
» » the
» » » donor area or is he just able to get more grafts? Does he just not
» » » advertise the poor results or do all his patient get the wow effect?
» He
» » » said to me that 40-50 fu/cm2 just don’t do it in terms of fullness.
» » That
» » » is true but he seems to cunjour up enough numbers to do the high
» » density
» » » and preserve for the future… and he deos it well. It is dificult
» to
» » » trust one surgeon who’s philosophy flys in the face of all other
» » » approaches but that’s no insult and maybe a complement.
» » »
» » » Oh, I’ve just seen you’ve been discussing this in the link
» » »
» »
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry.php?id=9135&page=0&category=2&order=last_answer
» »
» » my only concern is young guys with low NW levels using up 90 percent of
» » their available donor…on about 30 percent of the
» top
» » of their scalp
» »
» » this to me , seems to be i want what i want when i want it
» »
» » it looks great today, to have the thick density, only thing is what
» about
» » when they go to a NW7 in 20 yrs, possibly
» » and they have about 1000 grafts left, they will look like a freak with
» a
» » thick top front and then nothing behind it
»
» If he uses a combination of strip and FUE he should have lots of donor
» left for future procedures.

doesnt matter
what do you think , that combo procedures have a potential of like 12000 grafts?

ask the docs
they are still limited to 8000 to at most 9000 grafts , most guys
average is about 8000

so if a guy uses up 6000 thickening up the top front, which is like a third of the TOP of his head, not to mention thinning that might occur on the sides and back in the future, how is he going to possibly begin to address a future NW7 thinning in the future, with only 2000 grafts left

Look at Matt Lauer, TV show host in the US, he is going from a NW 1 to a NW 6 within like 5 years

had he wanted transplants at year one, and used up 75 percent of his grafts on the top front, early on, he would quickly be totally screwed as his hair rapidly thinned

I wonder if Matt is on any meds like Propecia or Rogaine? My philosophy is that in the future, if HM does not come out and body hair transplants do not prove to be effective, I could always wear a mini hair system to cover up other bald spalts. At this time, I have stabilized my hairloss in the crown and the back with Propecia; and my brother, who has not used any meds for 6 years, is still a nw 4. I do believe, however, that some doctors can get 10,000+ grafts via FUE (or a FUE/strip combination).

» I wonder if Matt is on any meds like Propecia or Rogaine? My philosophy is
» that in the future, if HM does not come out and body hair transplants do
» not prove to be effective, I could always wear a mini hair system to cover
» up other bald spalts. At this time, I have stabilized my hairloss in the
» crown and the back with Propecia; and my brother, who has not used any
» meds for 6 years, is still a nw 4. I do believe, however, that some
» doctors can get 10,000+ grafts via FUE (or a FUE/strip combination).

i dont think matt is on anything, he thinks its cool to lose his hair, or some strange attitude, he is trying to accept it and let nature take its course

he looks ok now but in about 3 yrs he is going to look worse than woody harrelson
he should just shave it and get it over with

Hi Muscleboy!

Your hair already looks great to me after the first hair transplant. Why are you going for a second one?