Mick from Farjo on HM - very, very long corner

Stem cell; cell based hair therapy
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I found this posting from Mick from Farjo.Dated 26th March 2009.

In other words Intercytex are full of Sh*t or a very very long way off.What do you all think?

Spex,
You would not believe the number of people who actually believe it’s going to be just round the corner.I tell them it’s a very, very long corner.Anyway this was just updated on our site.
http://www.farjo.net/news.asp?action=view&id=657
Mick

Patient coordinator for Drs. Bessam and Nilofer of the Farjo Clinic in England

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You need to start being rational and stop these ridiculous hypes.

yeah im talking to all the greco fans now

  1. MAd max comes and posts update about greco which was first talked here a year ago.

  2. Mad baldlatino comes and “tanks” God as he briefly pictures himself with head full of hair

  3. Ridiculous hype starts and the few ppl who try to oppose it are quickly bashed

  4. several months later everyone wakes up from their hyped dream and calls greco a fraudster whether to be fair, he should rather call himself stupid for taking best case result, ignoring the fact it was a person with a different condition (areata), ignoring all other warning signs (varying lighting conditions and combover skills in before and after photos), 100 times exagerrating it in his mind and extrapolating it to full head of hair for masses in a dime of a second.

How typical for our forum users :slight_smile:

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So yeah, heres what i think: HM is 5 years away if you are uber optimist. 10 years away if we are lucky and it works, and never away otherwise.

intercytex is not full of sh*t. YOU ARE. you misread and misinterpret and exagerrate everything they say and then you are put down when you realize its worse than you dreamed and made up.

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» So yeah, heres what i think: HM is 5 years away if you are uber optimist…

I would say 10 years, if some miracle happens.

» 10 years away if we are lucky …

I would say 15 years, maybe 20 years, before a real solution exists, and I’m not very sure. Before baldness is cured, I’m quite sure we will see some real diseases cured

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We don’t need a perfect cure, we just need some kind of treatment that isn’t a punchline.

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» We don’t need a perfect cure, we just need some kind of treatment that
» isn’t a punchline.

Mick left me the following posting,after I asked him for more info,other than what we already know.So hopefully he will get back to me with a posting.

Unfortunately i am as much in the dark as you.Hence it is a topic that you will know as much as i do.I was simply referring to a recent update relating to the topic, which as you know has created a lot of interest.The reality is this is something that is not going to be available sometime soon.I will ask Dr Farjo to give some good straight talking feedback on this area and add it to here for you.
Mick

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» We don’t need a perfect cure, we just need some kind of treatment that
» isn’t a punchline.

Exactly, it may take decades for these scientists to find a cure, if Dr. Greco’s platelet rich plasma works, that is good enough for me, I don’t mind paying 800 a year to maintain my hair.

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What Intercytex, Aderans, Histogen are trying to do is very capital intensive and it takes time. Dr. Greco’s treatment seems to be very promising, we just need to see more before and after photos, it is available now, isn’t it?

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Has someone tried emailing his clinic for more photos?

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» Has someone tried emailing his clinic for more photos?

is he our hope?

Im kinda worried, because I saw two main points brought up that frighten me.

  1. It would be wounding that would take months to heal, and done every year? There goes your social life, as well as causing yearly phycologial issues.

Ladies love my bald head, a wounded one they wont. I want my hair back for me,but I dont want something that will make me frankenstein 3 months of every year.

  1. I see nothing about NW7 treatment, something about doing trials for it? Hope it could work, if # 1 above isnt an issue.

Hopefully whatever his treatment is or anyone elses, will mean one time treatment, new hairs that you can only worry about clipping every now and then.

Well, good luck Dr Greco, and thanks to him for at least pushing the boundaries and trying to find a treatment.

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» Has someone tried emailing his clinic for more photos?

When I see it offered in Az or even California or anywhere else in the country I’ll be a lot more excited about it.

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» » Has someone tried emailing his clinic for more photos?
»
» is he our hope?
»
» Im kinda worried, because I saw two main points brought up that frighten
» me.
»
» 1. It would be wounding that would take months to heal, and done every
» year? There goes your social life, as well as causing yearly phycologial
» issues.

It’s not wounding, it is injected with a syringe if I understand it correctly. There is no wounding. The dermaroller is just to stimulate the scalp.

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Needling/dermarollers are basically the same principle as wounding with peels or dermabrasion.

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» So yeah, heres what i think: HM is 5 years away if you are uber optimist.
» 10 years away if we are lucky and it works, and never away otherwise.
»
» intercytex is not full of sh*t. YOU ARE. you misread and misinterpret and
» exagerrate everything they say and then you are put down when you realize
» its worse than you dreamed and made up.

No debris, for me, it is clear that BALDIE is not the one who is full of sh*t.
I think he is very right on blaming ICX for misleading us into believing something that was not going to happen.
At the end, I see little differences between ICX, and the other dreaded doctors of the past. All of them came here to fool us.

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» So yeah, heres what i think: HM is 5 years away if you are uber optimist.
» 10 years away if we are lucky and it works, and never away otherwise.
»
» intercytex is not full of sh*t. YOU ARE. you misread and misinterpret and
» exagerrate everything they say and then you are put down when you realize
» its worse than you dreamed and made up.

Lets get personal,why not.

debris the hair specialist.Looking at your photos you’ve got bloody hair,why are you even on an hairloss site.Your obsessed about nothing,how sad is that.

Get a life get a better haircut!

Now back to Intercytex everything I know is mainly from direct conversation with the Farjo clinic,not an hairloss forum.If you want questions answered direct contact helps - not made up,Mislead YES more or likely.

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» I found this posting from Mick from Farjo.Dated 26th March 2009.
»
» In other words Intercytex are full of Sh*t or a very very long way
» off.What do you all think?
»
»
»
» Spex,
» You would not believe the number of people who actually believe it’s going
» to be just round the corner.I tell them it’s a very, very long
» corner.Anyway this was just updated on our site.
» http://www.farjo.net/news.asp?action=view&id=657
» Mick
»
» Patient coordinator for Drs. Bessam and Nilofer of the Farjo Clinic in
» England

nathan, you said that there will be queues in spring/summer???

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» » So yeah, heres what i think: HM is 5 years away if you are uber
» optimist.
» » 10 years away if we are lucky and it works, and never away otherwise.
» »
» » intercytex is not full of sht. YOU ARE. you misread and misinterpret
» and
» » exagerrate everything they say and then you are put down when you
» realize
» » its worse than you dreamed and made up.
»
» No debris, for me, it is clear that BALDIE is not the one who is full of
» sht.
» I think he is very right on blaming ICX for misleading us into believing
» something that was not going to happen.
» At the end, I see little differences between ICX, and the other dreaded
» doctors of the past. All of them came here to fool us.

you write so much bs, spanish dude. and so much of it. you are the reason why i dont read that much in here anymore.

people even respond to your bs.

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hi i read just first sentence.

most of the time when i used you i meant all ppl here, not you in particular.

sorry english is not my first language, and i didnt realize that it might feel like i was refering only to you.

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ppl here exagerrate and misinterpret everything so it correlates better with their dreams and hopes and then often are put down when they wake up from the dream.

Last icx report is a nice example.

PPL in the other thread here are discussing how repeatable injections will give them 1 hair per 20 seconds or whatever and they are arguing about most ridiculous stuff like if the injections can be made once per second or if it will take second and half … and they just completely ignore that the ICX report says something very different. They say they have quite low take rate that produces hair of 30micron and above. and 30 micron hair is pretty much vellus hair still. it wont give you any useful coverage as useful coverage starts at around 60 microns up and normal is 100 and up) they ignore loads of other things that are VERY CLEARLY stated in the report, not to mention that they also ignore potential issues that the report doesnt mention(direction, colour, texture, etc) they just focus on their dreams and create their own fantasy that is going to bite back few months from now on when they wake up finaly.

In short: most of conclusions made here are made based on dreams. Not reality.

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» » We don’t need a perfect cure, we just need some kind of treatment that
» » isn’t a punchline.
»
» Exactly, it may take decades for these scientists to find a cure, if Dr.
» Greco’s platelet rich plasma works, that is good enough for me, I don’t
» mind paying 800 a year to maintain my hair.

youre doing it again. one of the videos says the cost is going to be 800 to 2 grand. you again took the most optimistic figure and made it as if it was 800 for full head of hair.

the stuff probably doesnt even work better than rogaine.