Joeboo: 1300 Beard grafts to Crown, 1200 nape / Head grafts to hairline SFET

Hair Transplant
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» Joeboo any problems with the 200 beard in your strip scar? I need to get
» my scar fixed one of these days, I would appreciate some feedback on this.
» Thanks.

Stichmeup, hello, no problems with beard hair in the strip scar. The beard hair successfully minimized the appearance of the scar. It works well.

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» » » Dr. Umar,
» » »
» » » This is by far one of the best crown works I have seen to date, if
» » not
» » » THE best. Beard hair and only 1500 grafts. Excellent coverage,
» » and
» » » excellent natural looking beard hair growth.
» » »
» » » This is a great combination of Artistry, Use of Grafts, Future
» Planning
» » &
» » » Consideration, and Proof of Realistic and Successfull Use of beard
» » Hair.
» » »
» » » Two Requests Please:
» » »
» » » 1) Please inform us of what meds/treatments this gentleman is taking,
» » and
» » » when he started taking them.
» » »
» » » 2) Graft Placement Photos
» » »
» » » mj2003
» »
» » mj2003, thanks for the compliments. My current treatment consists of
» » minoxidil 5%. I also used nizoral shampoo prior to my surgery but i
» won’t
» » continue with that for several more months. I’ve used everything in the
» » past. I was on finasteride for a long time but got off of it several
» years
» » ago do to side-effects.
»
»
»
» Hello Joeboo,
»
» I just wanted to say I think your results look excellent. Have you had
» previous HT work before this procedure?

Hi missmyhair, yes i’ve had work done prior to this surgery. A majority of the hair you see in the before pictures is transplanted hair.

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Hello,

Very good result, I’m French, in Europe, unfortunately we did not have a doctor so hard to claim such results. You’re lucky to have a doctor of this quality is a solution to the most complex cases. good work in all cases Mr Umar.

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Joeboo,

Can you list the previous procedures/types of procedures/and amount of grafts you’ve had done in the past?

I’m just curious as to what I may be able to expect in the future if I were to follow similar steps, that’s all. I’m virgin scalp btw. I have to say I am liking more and more what I have been seeing from Dr. Umar. However, I don’t feel I’ll be able to afford an HT anytime soon. I only make about $40k/year right now. I’m trying to come up with a good finance savings plan. This is something I must do for myself someday.

Thanks,

missmyhair

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» why haven’t doctors come up with a NW7 HT strategy?
»
» Most MPB patients have plenty of chest hair… why not use chest/facial
» hair to add density and use DHT resistant hair on the head for shaping?
»
» I think you can take a NW7 to a NW2 if you use the right mixture of body
» and DHT resistant hair. of course, you’d have to have a short haircut for
» the rest of your life, but that’s better than having a shiny cue ball…
»
» Comments please!

There IS a NW7 strategy.

  1. Do fue, don’t do strip.
  2. Start incorporating beard or body hair from the get go.
  3. Follow the less is more approach or the dusting effect. Avoid the front heavy design.
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Still out there Joeboo???

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» » why haven’t doctors come up with a NW7 HT strategy?
» »
» » Most MPB patients have plenty of chest hair… why not use chest/facial
» » hair to add density and use DHT resistant hair on the head for shaping?
» »
» » I think you can take a NW7 to a NW2 if you use the right mixture of
» body
» » and DHT resistant hair. of course, you’d have to have a short haircut
» for
» » the rest of your life, but that’s better than having a shiny cue ball…
» »
» » Comments please!
»
» There IS a NW7 strategy.
»
» 1. Do fue, don’t do strip.
» 2. Start incorporating beard or body hair from the get go.
» 3. Follow the less is more approach or the dusting effect. Avoid the front
» heavy design.

I especially agree with #2, I think the strategy is about “saving for rainy days”, I start seeing Arvind adding body hair to regular scalp donor for a lot of his patients which I am starting to think it’s a good idea, this helps preserve the precious scalp donor.

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» There IS a NW7 strategy.
»
» 1. Do fue, don’t do strip.
» 2. Start incorporating beard or body hair from the get go.
» 3. Follow the less is more approach or the dusting effect. Avoid the front
» heavy design.

Don’t get strip and don’t get greedy, avoid the thick hairline temptation and most people will be fine even if they are class 6. My biggest downfall is the strip scar which will cost me another 300 to 500 grafts to repair via fue or bht.

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» » why haven’t doctors come up with a NW7 HT strategy?
» »
» » Most MPB patients have plenty of chest hair… why not use chest/facial
» » hair to add density and use DHT resistant hair on the head for shaping?
» »
» » I think you can take a NW7 to a NW2 if you use the right mixture of
» body
» » and DHT resistant hair. of course, you’d have to have a short haircut
» for
» » the rest of your life, but that’s better than having a shiny cue ball…
» »
» » Comments please!
»
» There IS a NW7 strategy.
»
» 1. Do fue, don’t do strip.
» 2. Start incorporating beard or body hair from the get go.
» 3. Follow the less is more approach or the dusting effect. Avoid the front
» heavy design.

Strip will actually provide you with much more grafts, very high and much higher yield rate as opposed to fue. But in order to get the maximum of your donor supply you’d have to incorporate both, strip and fue. Most people dont have enough elasticity back of their heads for multiple strip sessions. And if you go any higher than 4000 fue grafts, believe me, you will see holes and empty spaces on the sides and back of your head.

But to push the envelope even further, you’d have to use strip, fue, and body/beard fue. To the gentleman that asked why isn’t everyone doing body/beard fue and going from nw7 to nw2, because body/beard heard still have an inconsistancy rate. Granted Umar and Arvind are the best at what they do, the fact of the matter is not everyone reponds the same to body/beard fue hair transplants. I’m not saying the followig complications have been undergone through any specific clinics, but getting scars from extraction sights is prety much a guarantee. The photos we see have minimal scarring, yet they are still visible. Don’t be fooled by photos. beard/body hairs can grow well for the first few months and fall off afterwards. They can be implanted to look very un-natural.

Personally, if (and most likely will) I go for a body/beard fue it will between Umar and Arvind. Hopefully by then it would be near perfected.

The crown work here, in my opnion, is still underestimated. 1300 grafts of beard hairs with an end result like that is truely an advancement in the hair transplant industry on its own.

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» » » why haven’t doctors come up with a NW7 HT strategy?
» » »
» » » Most MPB patients have plenty of chest hair… why not use
» chest/facial
» » » hair to add density and use DHT resistant hair on the head for
» shaping?
» » »
» » » I think you can take a NW7 to a NW2 if you use the right mixture of
» » body
» » » and DHT resistant hair. of course, you’d have to have a short haircut
» » for
» » » the rest of your life, but that’s better than having a shiny cue
» ball…
» » »
» » » Comments please!
» »
» » There IS a NW7 strategy.
» »
» » 1. Do fue, don’t do strip.
» » 2. Start incorporating beard or body hair from the get go.
» » 3. Follow the less is more approach or the dusting effect. Avoid the
» front
» » heavy design.
»
» Strip will actually provide you with much more grafts, very high and much
» higher yield rate as opposed to fue. But in order to get the maximum of
» your donor supply you’d have to incorporate both, strip and fue. Most
» people dont have enough elasticity back of their heads for multiple strip
» sessions. And if you go any higher than 4000 fue grafts, believe me, you
» will see holes and empty spaces on the sides and back of your head.
»
» But to push the envelope even further, you’d have to use strip, fue, and
» body/beard fue. To the gentleman that asked why isn’t everyone doing
» body/beard fue and going from nw7 to nw2, because body/beard heard still
» have an inconsistancy rate. Granted Umar and Arvind are the best at what
» they do, the fact of the matter is not everyone reponds the same to
» body/beard fue hair transplants. I’m not saying the followig complications
» have been undergone through any specific clinics, but getting scars from
» extraction sights is prety much a guarantee. The photos we see have minimal
» scarring, yet they are still visible. Don’t be fooled by photos.
» beard/body hairs can grow well for the first few months and fall off
» afterwards. They can be implanted to look very un-natural.
»
» Personally, if (and most likely will) I go for a body/beard fue it will
» between Umar and Arvind. Hopefully by then it would be near perfected.
»
» The crown work here, in my opnion, is still underestimated. 1300 grafts
» of beard hairs with an end result like that is truely an advancement in the
» hair transplant industry on its own.

I agree, my take on body or beard hair transplant is that not everybody responds the same way, granted this guy has truly impressive growth in the crown with beard donor, the question is can Dr. Umar (or any doctor for that matter) produce results like on every patient?

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»
» I agree, my take on body or beard hair transplant is that not everybody
» responds the same way, granted this guy has truly impressive growth in the
» crown with beard donor, the question is can Dr. Umar (or any doctor for
» that matter) produce results like on every patient?

Funnily, I shave my chest and i have no use for my chest hair. Having said that, my chest hair is very good straight. I would probably be a good candidate…now sure if i could go through with it though…

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I personally started my body hair journey back in 2005 during the infancy stages for using body hair (beard hair wasnt being used at that time) . Dr Umar has brought the use of body /beard hair a very long way since my first procedure with him in 2005 . I can tell you from personal experience that I am very very impressed with how the use of beard hair impacts improvement and density . In April of this year Dr Umar finalized my very extensive strip scar repair with beard hair. It was my first experience with using beard hair but I can assure you it will not be my last. It has its own unique characteristic of adding density /legnth so it has become a valuable option and in my opinion the first choice of use after scalp hair/ or in combination with scalp hair . (for strip scars most often beard hair is the first option)

17,000 body hair grafts by Dr Umar
2000 scalp hair grafts
800 beard hair grafts to finalize extensive strip scar repair to perfection

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I was reading up on older threads and saw Joeboo already had 3150 grafts chest and arm hairs put to this crown, in other words the crown that we see is not after 1300 beard but after 4450 (beard/chest/arm) ??? it’s very misleading.

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» I was reading up on older threads and saw Joeboo already had 3150 grafts
» chest and arm hairs put to this crown, in other words the crown that we see
» is not after 1300 beard but after 4450 (beard/chest/arm) ??? it’s very
» misleading.

Where did you see that?

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» I was reading up on older threads and saw Joeboo already had 3150 grafts
» chest and arm hairs put to this crown, in other words the crown that we see
» is not after 1300 beard but after 4450 (beard/chest/arm) ??? it’s very
» misleading.

Fastforward, hello, there was no intention of being misleading. The pictures you see are the day of my beard hair transplantation into the crown. I tried using arm, leg and chest hair previously, but my arm hair and other body hair is very fine with very little pigment. At the time of the experiment it was hoped that moving body hair to the head would result in the hair turning more like head hair. Dr. Woods had a patient that used chest hair that grew to a much longer length than the native location, i.e. the chest. That is not the case, at least not for me, unfortunately. Beard hair was my ticket. I’m very pleased with my results and all the results in the crown are from beard hair with very little to NO benefit of leg or arm hair. I was fully informed and advised that my leg and arm hair was not ideal for transplantation but I took the risk anyway. In my case my beard hair was the appropriate donor source, thickness, caliber, pigment and its ability to grow longer.

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» » I was reading up on older threads and saw Joeboo already had 3150 grafts
» » chest and arm hairs put to this crown, in other words the crown that we
» see
» » is not after 1300 beard but after 4450 (beard/chest/arm) ??? it’s
» very
» » misleading.
»
» Fastforward, hello, there was no intention of being misleading. The
» pictures you see are the day of my beard hair transplantation into the
» crown. I tried using arm, leg and chest hair previously, but my arm hair
» and other body hair is very fine with very little pigment. At the
» time of the experiment it was hoped that moving body hair to the head would
» result in the hair turning more like head hair. Dr. Woods had a patient
» that used chest hair that grew to a much longer length than the native
» location, i.e. the chest. That is not the case, at least not for me,
» unfortunately. Beard hair was my ticket. I’m very pleased with my results
» and all the results in the crown are from beard hair with very little to NO
» benefit of leg or arm hair. I was fully informed and advised that my leg
» and arm hair was not ideal for transplantation but I took the risk anyway.
» In my case my beard hair was the appropriate donor source, thickness,
» caliber, pigment and its ability to grow longer.

Hi Joeboo,

How many total HTs and number of grafts have you had throughout your HT work? Just curious as I like your results, and may someday wish to follow in your footsteps. Thanks.