In reference to Gho

» I was a quiet skeptic before but this makes things a bit more interesting,
» I probably missed this or forgot about this a while back:
»
» Donor hair follicle preservation by partial follicular unit extraction. A method to optimize hair transplantation - PubMed
»
» Full Article:
» http://www.hasci.com/uploads/downloads/dad01225-0ceb-4a30-90c4-771ed900f25aHSI%20-%20Artikel_Gho%20Neumann.pdf
»
» Anyway, that article shows a lot of interesting points, is Dr. Gho going to
» put up any of the results showing the recipient, it seems he has good photo
» representation of the donor growing back to an average of around 95%, I
» would just like to see how the reciepient sites look. Are those pictures
» released somewhere?

Today, Dr. Jerry Cooley concerning Dr. Cole’s disbelief as regards “hair plucking procedures”:


All the guys who really closely followed Dr. Gho’s research all the years knew, resp. know,
that they are “miles behind Dr. Gho’s research”:

Dr. Cooley also attached and described a close-up photo of “his type” and understanding of plucked hairs.
Here is a comparison:

Practically the same amount of hair shaft surrounding tissue!!

» Dr. Cooley also attached and described a close-up photo of “his type” and
» understanding of plucked hairs.
» Here is a comparison:
»
» Practically the same amount of hair shaft surrounding tissue!!

I think the pic on the right has more tissue surrounding the follicle

So just for the record i sum it up

  1. Gho is using his hair plucking technique for over a decade

Question here : Where are the thousands and thousands of hair loss sufferere cured by Gho? There are a few thousand people registered at message boards around the globe but NO Gho case where someone was overly exited? This is strange

  1. If he has doing it over a decade with “success” why was he bancrupt a few years ago?

  2. If everyone is Miles behind Gho, why is Gho not Miles in advance of them in terms of thousands of lucky patients?

  3. Hahahahaha you talking about Gho is “Speeding up the process” you mad bro

Right now he is doing 1600 Grafts at top and also needs 9 months for the donor to regrow…yeah right speeding things up especially when it comes to 35 density :wink:

  1. Even Gho patients are not that sure if their donor did in fact fully regenerate because he “plucks” the hair from different parts.

Well thats classy because if you do so, it will be harder to detect non regrow.

  1. Fascinating that you are still hallucinating about Gho. As everyone saw in the Wesley SNijder pictures, there well is no significant increasing? And thats being said because you always advertise Ghos technique with " DIRECT GROW AND NO DOWN TIME"

  2. Wow you said you followed Gerald Joling case for a year closely. Seriously dont you have anything better to do with your life. Or is it because you are a Gho Shill.

Until you cant come up with serious patients fully happy with Gho you are just another naive shill running around.

  1. Hell we even saw more pictures from Hitzig and Cooley then from Gho

  2. Gho was bancrupt in 2003/2004 well HOW is that possible if you have the infinite donor plucking technique? And even if at first half of the hairs wouldnt be usefull, 2000 hairs or so would make a huge difference in appearance. So why was Gho bancrupt with this perfect technique?

» So just for the record i sum it up
»
» 1) Gho is using his hair plucking technique for over a decade
»
» Question here : Where are the thousands and thousands of hair loss
» sufferere cured by Gho? There are a few thousand people registered at
» message boards around the globe but NO Gho case where someone was overly
» exited? This is strange
»
» 2) If he has doing it over a decade with “success” why was he bancrupt a
» few years ago?
»
» 3) If everyone is Miles behind Gho, why is Gho not Miles in advance of them
» in terms of thousands of lucky patients?
»
» 4) Hahahahaha you talking about Gho is “Speeding up the process” you mad
» bro
»
» Right now he is doing 1600 Grafts at top and also needs 9 months for the
» donor to regrow…yeah right speeding things up especially when
» it comes to 35 density :wink:
»
» 5) Even Gho patients are not that sure if their donor did in fact fully
» regenerate because he “plucks” the hair from different parts.
»
» Well thats classy because if you do so, it will be harder to detect non
» regrow.
»
» 6) Fascinating that you are still hallucinating about Gho. As everyone saw
» in the Wesley SNijder pictures, there well is no significant increasing?
» And thats being said because you always advertise Ghos technique with “
» DIRECT GROW AND NO DOWN TIME”
»
» 7) Wow you said you followed Gerald Joling case for a year closely.
» Seriously dont you have anything better to do with your life. Or is it
» because you are a Gho Shill.
»
» Until you cant come up with serious patients fully happy with Gho you are
» just another naive shill running around.
»
» 8) Hell we even saw more pictures from Hitzig and Cooley then from Gho
»
» 9) Gho was bancrupt in 2003/2004 well HOW is that possible if you have the
» infinite donor plucking technique? And even if at first half of the hairs
» wouldnt be usefull, 2000 hairs or so would make a huge difference in
» appearance. So why was Gho bancrupt with this perfect technique?

dude your constant attacks on Iron Man with the same old arguments again and again are at least equally annoying as Iron Man’s rants… you bitch and moan about Iron Man picking fights… but you provoke him on every comment… noone wants to read that kind of crap from either of you… just stfu

Yeah, Hairman is right. Both of you have to stop.
I thinks Iron_Mans posting was right. Its a fact that Cooley and Hitzig are doing things right now, Gho did years ago.
But its realy useless to discuss this case if there are stil no convincing Photos from Gho Patients around.
Iron_Man you talked about a study by Gho where he transplantedt 4000 grafts and the donor still looks the same. Where can we see these photos?

Ok guys if you think these are just insults on a personal level then just let me refresh your mind.

In the german hairloss board Iron.Man was praising and cheering up Gho all the time. Regular posters there who were interested asked him questions and what did Irin.Man do? Yes he attacked those people permanently and he also gave answers hidden in riddles.

At one point prior to his banning there, he claims he have more then 10.000 fotos of Gho patients and can proof everything.

Everyone gave him time to back those claims up, they even accepted his insults to other people all the time. Till the point where he couldnt come up with at least 5 fotos not related to Maasland, Joling. He just couldnt come up with evidence or whatsoever

He insulted normal poster who were sceptic about Gho because they never heared anything about this.

Result : IronMan was banned at the german board even if he was warned at least two time prior where he was given a time out for two weeks or so.

Now what is going on in this german board after his banning? Yes iam still registered there and discussions are on a adult level without insults and personal attacks, even Gho is discussed in a serious kind of way.

Now we take a look at Bald Truth Talk. He was constantly paising Gho and failed to provide fotos or anything else, insulted people there and attack them for not bliving in Gho.

He in fact used his smear tactics to discredit Dr Hitzig/Cooley etc because they were just Gho Imposters and Gho is ahead of them for miles.

Result : He was banned permanently and now discussions are on a serious level again.


And the questions i ASKED are serious question which come up from every user here at some point. And i ask why is it so difficult for IRon.Man to just proof and back up everything he claims when he otherwise keeps screen caps from everyone.

Another Question and an absolutely valid one " Why is Iron.Man not going to visit Gho to get his problems fixed? "

Why not? Why not? If this technique is foolproof then he could esily repair his whole head.

Also another valid question here " Where are the happy patients"? WHERE. At any other surgeon, Iron.Man would go Ape Shi* and attacks the surgeon for doing advertsings with celebrities.

But he ignores all those obvious red flags and crushes everything with Gho praising.

If you guys are so pissed about Dr Cooley and Dr Hitzig for trying this, then just read what they have to say about there experiments.


Another thing, why do all the guys here keep insisting that representatives of clinics put this in their signature? But why is no one asking Iron.Man to do so? He constantly praises Gho like a Shill with also no backup.

And also right now i can give you a very disturbing answer and also a shattering one as well.

Iron.Man is praising Gho all the time, because he wants people from message boards as guinea pigs he himself is to cowardish to get his hairs done by only himself.

And thats the point why I keep questioning Gho? I absolutely believe in Plucking with Acell BUT i even gave my advise to GoGiant here NOT absolutely NOT to do a FUT at Dr Hitzig.

And yes as Iron.Man i will question Gho every time until something comes up. Because in my booky it is very strange, that someone who can get you infinite donor (10 years ag0 can go bancrupt just 2 years later.

BELIEVE me i want Gho to work as much as you guys, but right now what do we have on Ghos side? Less to zero patient reports, some claims which contradicts themselfes.

And also the most shocking thing, we have someone at the german board who was called by Ghos clinic and the employee even couldnt guarantee full donor recovery, which is to me a shocking red flag.

As long as IronMan himself has not get a gho transplant and his case documented, gho remains a snake oil seller.

» Ok guys if you think these are just insults on a personal level then just
» let me refresh your mind.
»
» In the german hairloss board Iron.Man was praising and cheering up Gho all
» the time. Regular posters there who were interested asked him questions and
» what did Irin.Man do? Yes he attacked those people permanently and he also
» gave answers hidden in riddles.
»
» At one point prior to his banning there, he claims he have more then 10.000
» fotos of Gho patients and can proof everything.
»
» Everyone gave him time to back those claims up, they even accepted his
» insults to other people all the time. Till the point where he couldnt come
» up with at least 5 fotos not related to Maasland, Joling. He just couldnt
» come up with evidence or whatsoever
»
» He insulted normal poster who were sceptic about Gho because they never
» heared anything about this.
»
» Result : IronMan was banned at the german board even if he was warned at
» least two time prior where he was given a time out for two weeks or so.
»
» Now what is going on in this german board after his banning? Yes iam still
» registered there and discussions are on a adult level without insults and
» personal attacks, even Gho is discussed in a serious kind of way.
» ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» Now we take a look at Bald Truth Talk. He was constantly paising Gho and
» failed to provide fotos or anything else, insulted people there and attack
» them for not bliving in Gho.
»
» He in fact used his smear tactics to discredit Dr Hitzig/Cooley etc because
» they were just Gho Imposters and Gho is ahead of them for miles.
»
» Result : He was banned permanently and now discussions are on a serious
» level again.
»
» ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» And the questions i ASKED are serious question which come up from every
» user here at some point. And i ask why is it so difficult for IRon.Man to
» just proof and back up everything he claims when he otherwise keeps screen
» caps from everyone.
»
» Another Question and an absolutely valid one " Why is Iron.Man not going to
» visit Gho to get his problems fixed? “
»
» Why not? Why not? If this technique is foolproof then he could esily repair
» his whole head.
»
» Also another valid question here " Where are the happy patients”? WHERE. At
» any other surgeon, Iron.Man would go Ape Shi* and attacks the surgeon for
» doing advertsings with celebrities.
»
» But he ignores all those obvious red flags and crushes everything with Gho
» praising.
» ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» If you guys are so pissed about Dr Cooley and Dr Hitzig for trying this,
» then just read what they have to say about there experiments.
»
» ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» Another thing, why do all the guys here keep insisting that representatives
» of clinics put this in their signature? But why is no one asking Iron.Man
» to do so? He constantly praises Gho like a Shill with also no backup.
» ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» And also right now i can give you a very disturbing answer and also a
» shattering one as well.
»
» Iron.Man is praising Gho all the time, because he wants people from message
» boards as guinea pigs he himself is to cowardish to get his hairs done by
» only himself.
»
» And thats the point why I keep questioning Gho? I absolutely believe in
» Plucking with Acell BUT i even gave my advise to GoGiant here NOT
» absolutely NOT to do a FUT at Dr Hitzig.
» ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» And yes as Iron.Man i will question Gho every time until something comes
» up. Because in my booky it is very strange, that someone who can get you
» infinite donor (10 years ag0 can go bancrupt just 2 years later.
» -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» BELIEVE me i want Gho to work as much as you guys, but right now what do we
» have on Ghos side? Less to zero patient reports, some claims which
» contradicts themselfes.
»
» And also the most shocking thing, we have someone at the german board who
» was called by Ghos clinic and the employee even couldnt guarantee full
» donor recovery, which is to me a shocking red flag.
»
» As long as IronMan himself has not get a gho transplant and his case
» documented, gho remains a snake oil seller.

Listen mate, your missing the vital thing here, other people dont car about the he said this he said that sh!t. we just dont want to hear about it any more. every thread is ruined and its just completely unfair on other users. Its like this you and iron man dislike each other swap email addresses and insult each other to the whites of your eyes but just ignore each other on this forum so other people can read it again. I think that is fair. Again i dont care what iron posted on a german board or any other forum and likewise for you just give hairsite back to the other users and stop destroying it.

good if you guys say so, but dont be pissed when you dont get answers from this guy anymore.

» good if you guys say so, but dont be pissed when you dont get answers from
» this guy anymore.

Oh and guys, you should pay attention to the posters here. It is so strange that the exactly same things happen again :wink: with Gho

http://www.hairlossxxxx.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=42346

replace xxxx with help and you are a winner

» Oh and guys, you should pay attention to the posters here. It is so strange
» that the exactly same things happen again :wink: with Gho
»
» http://www.hairlossxxxx.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=42346
»
» replace xxxx with help and you are a winner

Correct, the same things happen again - many guys knew since a long time, that Dr. Gho IS and will be the winner:

http://www.hairlossXXXX.com/interact/viewtopic.php?p=211231#p211231
(replace XXXX with ‘talk’)

Essentially I agree with you Stevie.Dee. I frequented this board before Iron_Man made his appearance… the board and the tone of discussion was much more civil than it is today. People actually spoke about hair related topics.

The problem however is that this board lacks moderation. Iron_Man and Leeory were warned and that was it. Iron_Man wont get banned on this board because the admins don’t seem to give a crap about the quality of discussion. They only care if someone makes unfavorable remarks about one of their sponsoring surgeons. It’s sad but true.

Discussions with Iron_Man in the past have lead to nothing. Provoking new fights just leads to more spamming on this board. Just try to ignore him and his Gho propaganda. That’s the best we can do.

» Ok guys if you think these are just insults on a personal level then just
» let me refresh your mind.
»
» In the german hairloss board Iron.Man was praising and cheering up Gho all
» the time. Regular posters there who were interested asked him questions and
» what did Irin.Man do? Yes he attacked those people permanently and he also
» gave answers hidden in riddles.
»
» At one point prior to his banning there, he claims he have more then 10.000
» fotos of Gho patients and can proof everything.
»
» Everyone gave him time to back those claims up, they even accepted his
» insults to other people all the time. Till the point where he couldnt come
» up with at least 5 fotos not related to Maasland, Joling. He just couldnt
» come up with evidence or whatsoever
»
» He insulted normal poster who were sceptic about Gho because they never
» heared anything about this.
»
» Result : IronMan was banned at the german board even if he was warned at
» least two time prior where he was given a time out for two weeks or so.
»
» Now what is going on in this german board after his banning? Yes iam still
» registered there and discussions are on a adult level without insults and
» personal attacks, even Gho is discussed in a serious kind of way.
» ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» Now we take a look at Bald Truth Talk. He was constantly paising Gho and
» failed to provide fotos or anything else, insulted people there and attack
» them for not bliving in Gho.
»
» He in fact used his smear tactics to discredit Dr Hitzig/Cooley etc because
» they were just Gho Imposters and Gho is ahead of them for miles.
»
» Result : He was banned permanently and now discussions are on a serious
» level again.
»
» ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» And the questions i ASKED are serious question which come up from every
» user here at some point. And i ask why is it so difficult for IRon.Man to
» just proof and back up everything he claims when he otherwise keeps screen
» caps from everyone.
»
» Another Question and an absolutely valid one " Why is Iron.Man not going to
» visit Gho to get his problems fixed? “
»
» Why not? Why not? If this technique is foolproof then he could esily repair
» his whole head.
»
» Also another valid question here " Where are the happy patients”? WHERE. At
» any other surgeon, Iron.Man would go Ape Shi* and attacks the surgeon for
» doing advertsings with celebrities.
»
» But he ignores all those obvious red flags and crushes everything with Gho
» praising.
» ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» If you guys are so pissed about Dr Cooley and Dr Hitzig for trying this,
» then just read what they have to say about there experiments.
»
» ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» Another thing, why do all the guys here keep insisting that representatives
» of clinics put this in their signature? But why is no one asking Iron.Man
» to do so? He constantly praises Gho like a Shill with also no backup.
» ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» And also right now i can give you a very disturbing answer and also a
» shattering one as well.
»
» Iron.Man is praising Gho all the time, because he wants people from message
» boards as guinea pigs he himself is to cowardish to get his hairs done by
» only himself.
»
» And thats the point why I keep questioning Gho? I absolutely believe in
» Plucking with Acell BUT i even gave my advise to GoGiant here NOT
» absolutely NOT to do a FUT at Dr Hitzig.
» ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» And yes as Iron.Man i will question Gho every time until something comes
» up. Because in my booky it is very strange, that someone who can get you
» infinite donor (10 years ag0 can go bancrupt just 2 years later.
» -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
»
» BELIEVE me i want Gho to work as much as you guys, but right now what do we
» have on Ghos side? Less to zero patient reports, some claims which
» contradicts themselfes.
»
» And also the most shocking thing, we have someone at the german board who
» was called by Ghos clinic and the employee even couldnt guarantee full
» donor recovery, which is to me a shocking red flag.
»
» As long as IronMan himself has not get a gho transplant and his case
» documented, gho remains a snake oil seller.

Funny

the thread is from 2006. It stops after 5 postings where some one asked for pictures. Also then Gho could only harvest 200 Grafts? O Really?

So maybe we should ask this poster after 5 years what he thinks about it.

But kudos to you, you are really browsing the internet all the time for little pieces of Gho.

WHy dont you just call him or pay his clinic a visit? Then all your almighty questions will be asked and also you will see nice pictures of people getting cured.

In every forum there is one guy who claims Gho to be superior but can only assume things with no backup pictures or anything else.

So Gho Case Closed until further notification

@hairman2 : Under normal circumstances i would just let it slip, but this really persistent Gho praising to lurk people to get a Gho transplant done is just horrible and shut not be tolerated.

I know from german sufferers that this is actually Iron.Mans plan he praises gho because he thinks it could work and to get people do this transplant and hopes that they will update us here for free.

If it wont work, well Iron.Man has nothing lost here. Because his problem is from a much more sinister background. After his transplants he had in the past (which went wrong unfortunately) he has only a few very few grafts to harvest left and therefore he is to cowardish to get a gho transplant done (which is absolutely equal to not believe in the technique at all).

And to me this is just wrong, plain wrong and bad for everyone here. BEcause if someone would get a gho transplant and it would fail, Iron.Man could easily switch nicks and no one would ver know but he had his fun share.

This is not tolerable, especiall with all the evidence pointing to gho as a fra*d. And there is a very sleazy scheme behind Iron.Mans Gho praising every time.

If you dont believe me just look up the thread with this Lauster guy where Iron.Man says something like bla ba bla everyone can just buy them Histogen,Ari and Hair Science Institute" in this case he didnt use the word Gho because the more he uses the word Gho the more it become burned goods.

» » Dr. Cooley also attached and described a close-up photo of “his type”
» and
» » understanding of plucked hairs.
» » Here is a comparison:
» »
» » Practically the same amount of hair shaft surrounding tissue!!
» ----------------
» I think the pic on the right has more tissue surrounding the follicle

Dr. Cooley mentioned “I chose the meatiest pluck I could get for this [photo] example.”
Basically he meant he chose one of THE plucked hairs for a photo, which is suitable and he is finally using those for hair plucking procedures (why he finally “got better at plucking hairs with adequate epithelial cells attached to the shaft …”).

Anyway, concerning “the meatiest pluck”, I thought I just do the same – I chose the “meatiest” one:

and whats your point? Other then try to imprss people with old pictures to make them think you are serious whereas its really close for you to getting banned.

Yeah thats the thing we see all time, everytime something is going to ban you you come up with some lame as* pictures.

Your posting doesnt answer any questions here, its the obvious fog candle

» Iron_Man you talked about a study by Gho where he transplantedt 4000 grafts
» and the donor still looks the same. Where can we see these photos?

Yea, I know it is hard to follow discussions and threads when they always get hijacked by the same useless psychos:

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-77108.html#p77108

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-78842.html#p78844

» » Iron_Man you talked about a study by Gho where he transplantedt
» 4000 grafts
» » and the donor still looks the same. Where can we see these photos?
»
» Yea, I know it is hard to follow discussions and threads when they always
» get hijacked by the same useless psychos:
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-77108.html#p77108
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-78842.html#p78844

Just in case someone can’t find it:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T52-51PR0N2-1&_user=10&_coverDate=12%2F15%2F2010&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=f62ae90919846a5dbf9eb8da5d72fa0f&searchtype=a#FCANote

» I was a quiet skeptic before but this makes things a bit more interesting,
» I probably missed this or forgot about this a while back:
»
» http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20388024
»
» Full Article:
» http://www.hasci.com/uploads/downloads/dad01225-0ceb-4a30-90c4-771ed900f25aHSI%20-%20Artikel_Gho%20Neumann.pdf
»
» Anyway, that article shows a lot of interesting points, is Dr. Gho going to
» put up any of the results showing the recipient, it seems he has good photo
» representation of the donor growing back to an average of around 95%, I
» would just like to see how the reciepient sites look.
» Are those pictures released somewhere?

Besides lots of photos on their website, some on haarweb.nl, here are a few more (including some insights in general):

http://www.ebca.info/userfiles/2EBCA%20EBCA%20Hair%20science%20Institute.25nov10.pdf

»
» Besides lots of photos on their website, some on haarweb.nl, here are a few
» more (including some insights in general):
»
» http://www.ebca.info/userfiles/2EBCA%20EBCA%20Hair%20science%20Institute.25nov10.pdf

There are a few good pics but they don’t tell you the # of grafts, they have to learn from doctors like Hasson and Wong how to show good quality pics.

Why the obsession with Gho anyway?

» Why the obsession with Gho anyway?

Why the obsession with e.g. Madonna?

Do you really think these guys are paid?