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If I had not done strip surgery before


#1

For those who dont know me:
I had a strip in 2001, 1800 grafts. Since there was no FUE option I had no choice.

Fast forward :
2 more large size FUE sessions 2100+1850 grafts, close to 4000 grafts.

According to our docs I still have about 1000-1500 grafts available today (see picture of donor area taken a few months ago)

Lets now assume I had not done strip surgery :
2100 FUE grafts in 2003
1850 FUE grafts end of 2006
1000-1500 grafts still available today
± 700 grafts extra because of extra donor area that was cut out.

Total : give or take 5700-6200 grafts

My original donor area was a little over average density. On the average donor area we believe 5000 grafts are achievable.
On the extreme side we believe that persons with high donor density could produce 7000-8000 grafts.

My donor area today

Me before hair restauration

My current hair situation, please note that most of the transplants are FUE

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Consultant for Prohairclinic Belgium
FUE only institute since 2004
Specialized in FUE megasessions


#2

Wow Bverotti,

You look good… Also, I never knew what you looked like before! It is strange to put a face with a posters name. Congrats to you… and Kudos to the work you got. You should also post the BHT pictures you did as a BHT test in your crown.


#3

BTW where do you live? I used to stay in Brussels near the “Roi Clinique” right around the church in the map below.

I miss Brussels so much!


#4

» BTW where do you live? I used to stay in Brussels near the “Roi Clinique”

I live in the suburb of Antwerp, about 50 km from Brussels. Our institute in Mechelen is about 25 km out of Brussels, or about 25 min. drive (actually it is right in the middle between Antwerp and Brussels.)

I am not very familiar with Brussels, it is almost like another country to me.
Foreigners usually think that Belgium is a French speaking country when they visit Brussels. However more than half of the population (astouning how we where able to fit 10 million in such a tiny area) speak Dutch.

Greetz,

Bart


#5

I did notice this when i was there. I also noticed the following.

  1. In Brussels, people love to eat late… but not in large portions.
  2. During winter the sun sets at 10:00PM and daylight ends around 11:00pm.
  3. There are NO fast food restaurants. No fattys walking around eating big macs either.
  4. When eating, people take a bite, put down their forks and chew and have conversation. They don’t eat like porky pig.
  5. Brussels has the best public transportation I have ever seen. A light rail underground and above ground.
  6. Two languages are spoken in Brussels, Flamish and French.
  7. Every sign in Brussels is in both languages.
  8. There is an African section called Matongue where my dear friend Dr. Mwamba used to take me too. His step mother owns a restaurant there and she would cook for me.
  9. The french women have zero inhibitions and are very open!

#6

was that a response or an ad campaign for Brussels, because if it were an ad for Brussels, it just worked. I’m already looking for a room.

» I did notice this when i was there. I also noticed the following.
»
» 1. In Brussels, people love to eat late… but not in large portions.
» 2. During winter the sun sets at 10:00PM and daylight ends around
» 11:00pm.
» 3. There are NO fast food restaurants. No fattys walking around eating big
» macs either.
» 4. When eating, people take a bite, put down their forks and chew and have
» conversation. They don’t eat like porky pig.
» 5. Brussels has the best public transportation I have ever seen. A light
» rail underground and above ground.
» 6. Two languages are spoken in Brussels, Flamish and French.
» 7. Every sign in Brussels is in both languages.
» 8. There is an African section called Matongue where my dear friend Dr.
» Mwamba used to take me too. His step mother owns a restaurant there and
» she would cook for me.
» 9. The french women have zero inhibitions and are very open!


#7

Well Brussels is a place I would consider moving to altogether. A beautiful city and culture. And of course Paris and Amsterdam are close by. I took a train to Amsterdam and that city is seriously great. Everyone rides bikes. Never seen so many bicycles in one place. I had a great time there. And again no overweight women or fast food restaurants. However, the coffee bars were interesting.:smiley:

One question for Bverotti. Why don’t you hit that crown with 300 to 600 scalp and call it day. You will be done!


#8

hairtech; you could compromise and move to SF…
I live here and it’s incredible… i don’t own a car anymore… motorcycle or mountain bike for me everyday… and I’m not the only one.

the bars well… aren’t AS interesting I’m sure… but there’s plenty more that is :slight_smile:

» Well Brussels is a place I would consider moving to altogether. A beautiful
» city and culture. And of course Paris and Amsterdam are close by. I took a
» train to Amsterdam and that city is seriously great. Everyone rides bikes.
» Never seen so many bicycles in one place. I had a great time there. And
» again no overweight women or fast food restaurants. However, the coffee
» bars were interesting.:smiley:
»
» One question for Bverotti. Why don’t you hit that crown with 300 to 600
» scalp and call it day. You will be done!


#9

Is SF San Francisco? I lopve that city too… especially the clam chowder in the huge bread thing you can get at the wharf.


#10

» Is SF San Francisco? I lopve that city too… especially the clam chowder
» in the huge bread thing you can get at the wharf.

Your hair looks great, with another 1500 in the crown you should be all set.


#11

» » Is SF San Francisco? I lopve that city too… especially the clam
» chowder
» » in the huge bread thing you can get at the wharf.
»
» Your hair looks great, with another 1500 in the crown you should be all
» set.

That us true, however for now I really dont care about my crown, I never see it unless I want too.

===
Consultant for Prohairclinic Belgium
FUE only institute since 2004
Specialized in FUE megasessions


#12

» For those who dont know me:
» I had a strip in 2001, 1800 grafts. Since there was no FUE option I had
» no choice.
»
» Fast forward :
» 2 more large size FUE sessions 2100+1850 grafts, close to 4000 grafts.
»
» According to our docs I still have about 1000-1500 grafts available today
» (see picture of donor area taken a few months ago)
»
» Lets now assume I had not done strip surgery :
» 2100 FUE grafts in 2003
» 1850 FUE grafts end of 2006
» 1000-1500 grafts still available today
» ± 700 grafts extra because of extra donor area that was cut out.
»
» Total : give or take 5700-6200 grafts
»
» My original donor area was a little over average density. On the average
» donor area we believe 5000 grafts are achievable.
» On the extreme side we believe that persons with high donor density could
» produce 7000-8000 grafts.
»
» My donor area today
»
»
» Me before hair restauration
»
»
» My current hair situation, please note that most of the transplants are
» FUE
»
»
» ===
» Consultant for Prohairclinic Belgium
» FUE only institute since 2004
» Specialized in FUE megasessions

You look great - much younger! The donor area looks very good for that mount of grafts to be harvested. Nice work.


#13

Can you describe what you mean by the uninhibited French women Hairetch? Any experiences you can share? Does the voulez vous line work?


#14

» » For those who dont know me:
» » I had a strip in 2001, 1800 grafts. Since there was no FUE option I
» had
» » no choice.
» »
» » Fast forward :
» » 2 more large size FUE sessions 2100+1850 grafts, close to 4000 grafts.
» »
» » According to our docs I still have about 1000-1500 grafts available
» today
» » (see picture of donor area taken a few months ago)
» »
» » Lets now assume I had not done strip surgery :
» » 2100 FUE grafts in 2003
» » 1850 FUE grafts end of 2006
» » 1000-1500 grafts still available today
» » ± 700 grafts extra because of extra donor area that was cut out.
» »
» » Total : give or take 5700-6200 grafts
» »
» » My original donor area was a little over average density. On the
» average
» » donor area we believe 5000 grafts are achievable.
» » On the extreme side we believe that persons with high donor density
» could
» » produce 7000-8000 grafts.
» »
» » My donor area today
» »
»
» »
» » Me before hair restauration
» »
»
» »
» » My current hair situation, please note that most of the transplants are
» » FUE
» »
»
» »
» » ===
» » Consultant for Prohairclinic Belgium
» » FUE only institute since 2004
» » Specialized in FUE megasessions
»
» You look great - much younger! The donor area looks very good for that
» mount of grafts to be harvested. Nice work.

Your donor area may only be able to get another 1500 grafts via strip but it looks like it could get way more via FUE.


#15

That sentence has haunted me for the last 10 years. Regret is the worst thing in the world to have.
I never had the luxury of researching HTP on the web.You know what I can’t understand? Today,everyone has access to an infinite amount of info on HTP. Guys come on forums like this,see that the majority of cases posted here are REPAIR cases yet they STILL take the risk of having surgery.Can’t these people put 2 & 2 together?
Go to any hairloss forum & the vast majority of patients who have had surgery are dissatisfied with their results. There is also a very large portion of people that have been brutally scarred. It is only a minority of people who achieve incredible results. Despite all this information that is in plain view, people persist on having surgery.

The man who wants to hang himself can always be led to the noose.


#16

Bverotti,

Not sure what the point is of your post save for the obvious which we covered in another forum. Your donor area appears to be above average in density from the photo you posted. Having said that, your appearance is unchanged as a result of your strip surgery so showing the donor area is irrelevant when your hair is as long as it is (normal average length that any one would wear).

If you had not had strip it is true that your donor area would have more grafts for FUE but at the same time there is more area to be left bare from the extractions so I don’t think your math works out.

You keep saying that the average donor has 5000 grafts. How many patients of yours have had 5000 grafts? How many with “exceptional” donor characteristics have had the 7000 to 8000 that you claim is possible? One can only state what they know from experience, not from conjecture.