» Also I have read on a couple of other sites that Patients
» experienced no regrowth in the donor sites.
Can you provide a link to these sites/forums?
» Would have to see multiple cases and years down the road to be a proven
» product
»
» for me. Also I have read on a couple of other sites that Patients
» experienced
»
» No regrowth in the donor sites. Sorry but again not enough concrete Info
» yet.
does that mean to you that this : http://www.hasci.com/uploads/downloads/dad01225-0ceb-4a30-90c4-771ed900f25aHSI%20-%20Artikel_Gho%20Neumann.pdf
is a pure tissue of lies???
Would have to see multiple cases and years down the road to be a proven
» product
»
» for me. Also I have read on a couple of other sites that Patients
» experienced
»
» No regrowth in the donor sites. Sorry but again not enough concrete Info
» yet.
there you go guys, I’m 18 days post treatment and first pic is before treatment!!!
» Would have to see multiple cases and years down the road to be a proven
» » product
» »
» » for me. Also I have read on a couple of other sites that Patients
» » experienced
» »
» » No regrowth in the donor sites. Sorry but again not enough concrete
» Info
» » yet.
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» there you go guys, I’m 18 days post treatment and first pic is before
» treatment!!!
Abd here you have, D-day before and after, day 3 and day 4
caddarik79, i really appreciate you taking time out to post your pics on this forum. These pics are really helpful to guys like us who are still undecided.
Looking at your pics, you does not seem to have had pimples like needhairasap. What do you think about regeneration in your donor area?
If somebody is planning to go for a HST, do you think that taking a 2 weeks break is good enough?
Would appreciate your response and once again thanks for posting your pics.
» » Would have to see multiple cases and years down the road to be a proven
» » » product
» » »
» » » for me. Also I have read on a couple of other sites that Patients
» » » experienced
» » »
» » » No regrowth in the donor sites. Sorry but again not enough concrete
» » Info
» » » yet.
» »
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» »
» »
» »
» »
» »
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» » there you go guys, I’m 18 days post treatment and first pic is before
» » treatment!!!
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» Abd here you have, D-day before and after, day 3 and day 4
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» caddarik79, i really appreciate you taking time out to post your pics on
» this forum. These pics are really helpful to guys like us who are still
» undecided.
»
» Looking at your pics, you does not seem to have had pimples like
» needhairasap. What do you think about regeneration in your donor area?
»
» If somebody is planning to go for a HST, do you think that taking a 2 weeks
» break is good enough?
»
» Would appreciate your response and once again thanks for posting your
» pics.
»
»
»
»
» » » Would have to see multiple cases and years down the road to be a
» proven
» » » » product
» » » »
» » » » for me. Also I have read on a couple of other sites that Patients
» » » » experienced
» » » »
» » » » No regrowth in the donor sites. Sorry but again not enough concrete
» » » Info
» » » » yet.
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » there you go guys, I’m 18 days post treatment and first pic is before
» » » treatment!!!
» »
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» »
» » Abd here you have, D-day before and after, day 3 and day 4
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Hello badbaldy,
if you plan to do one, take 10 days, this is the amount of days that separated me from going back to normal life!!!
Donor was amazing, already on the second day, looking OK, a bit itchy for ten days but then, very smooth!!!
the procedure, absolutely not painfull, only the needles for anesthesy of your scalp and hairline but still 4/10 painfull, very managable!!!
I have a good skin in general and apparently a very good donor zone, maybe that explain why no pimples!!!
On one area, my skin was even a bit to thick, and they had difficulties to take grafts from there, very well implanted!!tough skin they said!!!
i’m sure the were enthusiastic for a good 1900 - 2000, looking at my density but this little thick area stopped them.
receiving area is OK, a bit thinner than my normal native hair, but it’s normal, starting from day 8, my crusts started to go away, taking transplanted hair with them!!!
They told me that’s it’s no problem, the stem cells are firmly in starting from day 5!!!
My optimum density in both donor and receiving will show up in a couple of months!!!
We have to stop giving money for fake treatments, snake oils, poison pills, FUT, FUE… and only go for this type of treatment, this should encourage the business to dig into real solutions, let’s show that from now on, people refuse to have stupid slavery heavy treatments…I hope they will improve their method, I hope it is a start in the field where competition will be on the highest density, the best hairlines and not more on average deceiving or hardly acceptable results!!!
Sorry for my english, again, I’m french and duthc speaking!!!
Thanks caddarik79 for all your efforts, it is much appreciated.
It has to be said, your donor area looks very good indeed, it doesn’t prove regeneration in your case of course because we cannot tell that - but your donor DOES look pristine.
» » caddarik79, i really appreciate you taking time out to post your pics on
» » this forum. These pics are really helpful to guys like us who are still
» » undecided.
» »
» » Looking at your pics, you does not seem to have had pimples like
» » needhairasap. What do you think about regeneration in your donor area?
» »
» » If somebody is planning to go for a HST, do you think that taking a 2
» weeks
» » break is good enough?
» »
» » Would appreciate your response and once again thanks for posting your
» » pics.
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » » » Would have to see multiple cases and years down the road to be a
» » proven
» » » » » product
» » » » »
» » » » » for me. Also I have read on a couple of other sites that
» Patients
» » » » » experienced
» » » » »
» » » » » No regrowth in the donor sites. Sorry but again not enough
» concrete
» » » » Info
» » » » » yet.
» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » there you go guys, I’m 18 days post treatment and first pic is
» before
» » » » treatment!!!
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » Abd here you have, D-day before and after, day 3 and day 4
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
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» Hello badbaldy,
»
» if you plan to do one, take 10 days, this is the amount of days that
» separated me from going back to normal life!!!
»
» Donor was amazing, already on the second day, looking OK, a bit itchy for
» ten days but then, very smooth!!!
»
» the procedure, absolutely not painfull, only the needles for anesthesy of
» your scalp and hairline but still 4/10 painfull, very managable!!!
»
» I have a good skin in general and apparently a very good donor zone, maybe
» that explain why no pimples!!!
» On one area, my skin was even a bit to thick, and they had difficulties to
» take grafts from there, very well implanted!!tough skin they said!!!
»
» i’m sure the were enthusiastic for a good 1900 - 2000, looking at my
» density but this little thick area stopped them.
»
» receiving area is OK, a bit thinner than my normal native hair, but it’s
» normal, starting from day 8, my crusts started to go away, taking
» transplanted hair with them!!!
»
» They told me that’s it’s no problem, the stem cells are firmly in starting
» from day 5!!!
»
» My optimum density in both donor and receiving will show up in a couple of
» months!!!
»
» We have to stop giving money for fake treatments, snake oils, poison pills,
» FUT, FUE… and only go for this type of treatment, this should encourage
» the business to dig into real solutions, let’s show that from now on,
» people refuse to have stupid slavery heavy treatments…I hope they will
» improve their method, I hope it is a start in the field where competition
» will be on the highest density, the best hairlines and not more on average
» deceiving or hardly acceptable results!!!
»
» Sorry for my english, again, I’m french and duthc speaking!!!
Hi Caddarik79
Once again thanks for such a prompt and detailed response. very much appreciated.
What is your view on regeneration in your donor area?
From your pics, your donor looks almost untouched. Also It is clear now that HST leaves minimal/almost invisible scarring in most of the cases.
Badbaldy
» Thanks caddarik79 for all your efforts, it is much appreciated.
»
» It has to be said, your donor area looks very good indeed, it doesn’t prove
» regeneration in your case of course because we cannot tell that - but your
» donor DOES look pristine.
Agreed. I can’t see any difference between the before and after pictures of the donor. From my perspective, it seems hard to believe that Gho can consistently produce such pristine donors if there wasn’t some donor regeneration occurring.
At this point, I think it’s pretty conclusive that HST is far and away the least scarring, most minimally invasive hair transplant procedure that you can get. In almost all these cases documented online, the donor seems to be fully healed after 2 weeks and there’s practically no signs of a procedure. That’s a pretty huge development when you consider how many people are stuck repairing previous hair transplant work simply because they do not have the option to shave due to scarring.
Going forward, I’m interested to see how the recipient results turn out for all these patients. Hopefully along the way, someone can take pictures like gc did and we can get more evidence of donor regeneration.
caddarik do you mind if I post your pictures on another forum?
» » Thanks caddarik79 for all your efforts, it is much appreciated.
» »
» » It has to be said, your donor area looks very good indeed, it doesn’t
» prove
» » regeneration in your case of course because we cannot tell that - but
» your
» » donor DOES look pristine.
»
» Agreed. I can’t see any difference between the before and after pictures of
» the donor. From my perspective, it seems hard to believe that Gho can
» consistently produce such pristine donors if there wasn’t some donor
» regeneration occurring.
»
» At this point, I think it’s pretty conclusive that HST is far and away the
» least scarring, most minimally invasive hair transplant procedure that you
» can get. In almost all these cases documented online, the donor seems to be
» fully healed after 2 weeks and there’s practically no signs of a procedure.
» That’s a pretty huge development when you consider how many people are
» stuck repairing previous hair transplant work simply because they do not
» have the option to shave due to scarring.
»
» Going forward, I’m interested to see how the recipient results turn out for
» all these patients. Hopefully along the way, someone can take pictures like
» gc did and we can get more evidence of donor regeneration.
»
» caddarik do you mind if I post your pictures on another forum?
hello,
Yes, I do mind if you use my picture on other forum, for obvious reasons, it somehow was my choice to come and post here, not to become a famous case!!!
I prefer you to invite people to come to see here and talk here about the result.
For my donor, “itchy” is the only adjective I would use, zero pain and I swear!!!
I’ve read their study on dermatological journal and with a sample of 5 or 10 dudes, they proved they can even reach 97% of regeneration!!!
This procedure has to become a standard and cheaper also!!!
I hope we enter a new era and that the succes of Gho will oblige other to propose at least something as good as what they propose at Gho!!!
And even if you lose 300 grafts on each procedure, after 10, you lose 3000 in the donor and received 18.000 in the recipient, I mean!!!
3000 on classic FUE users is still discreet on donor area!!!
i’m glad it helped some of you fellows, I was myself grateful, finding here, people taking time to developp arguments and giving me the output to make my decision!!!
My point is, people touched by aga should stop wasting their money…if you are Norwood 3 or 4 and it bothers you, go for one good procedure to at least have your HL back, it make your face find back it’s right proportions…so at least one, and then monitor the market and the new stuffs and the progress, maybe, in the meantime, it will even improve!!!
I talked to the nice Dr who was doing the holes in my scalp, and she agreed to say that it can only go better and better and that even other labs will propose in the years coming, REAL solution…to her (but it was just a chat between me and her), in 5-10 years, it wiill be possible to say that balding is not jail anymore, and that you can take some options in rebuilding and reversing your Norwood!!!
Still, the only annoying thing, it’s that it is expensive!!!
» » Thanks caddarik79 for all your efforts, it is much appreciated.
» »
» » It has to be said, your donor area looks very good indeed, it doesn’t
» prove
» » regeneration in your case of course because we cannot tell that - but
» your
» » donor DOES look pristine.
»
» Agreed. I can’t see any difference between the before and after pictures of
» the donor. From my perspective, it seems hard to believe that Gho can
» consistently produce such pristine donors if there wasn’t some donor
» regeneration occurring.
»
» At this point, I think it’s pretty conclusive that HST is far and away the
» least scarring, most minimally invasive hair transplant procedure that you
» can get. In almost all these cases documented online, the donor seems to be
» fully healed after 2 weeks and there’s practically no signs of a procedure.
» That’s a pretty huge development when you consider how many people are
» stuck repairing previous hair transplant work simply because they do not
» have the option to shave due to scarring.
»
» Going forward, I’m interested to see how the recipient results turn out for
» all these patients. Hopefully along the way, someone can take pictures like
» gc did and we can get more evidence of donor regeneration.
»
» caddarik do you mind if I post your pictures on another forum?
and as you said, even if it’s not a total regeneration, it’s still amazing to see how it heals!!!
Hello Caddarik79
I am sorry for asking same question again and please accept my apologies if you have already answered it somewhere in the thread (I was not able to find it).
Looking at your personal donor area, what do you think donor regeneration claim of Dr Gho?
I completely agree with you that even without regeneration, HST is a superior method due to its non scarring feature.
Thanks, Badbaldy
» » » Thanks caddarik79 for all your efforts, it is much appreciated.
» » »
» » » It has to be said, your donor area looks very good indeed, it doesn’t
» » prove
» » » regeneration in your case of course because we cannot tell that - but
» » your
» » » donor DOES look pristine.
» »
» » Agreed. I can’t see any difference between the before and after pictures
» of
» » the donor. From my perspective, it seems hard to believe that Gho can
» » consistently produce such pristine donors if there wasn’t some donor
» » regeneration occurring.
» »
» » At this point, I think it’s pretty conclusive that HST is far and away
» the
» » least scarring, most minimally invasive hair transplant procedure that
» you
» » can get. In almost all these cases documented online, the donor seems to
» be
» » fully healed after 2 weeks and there’s practically no signs of a
» procedure.
» » That’s a pretty huge development when you consider how many people are
» » stuck repairing previous hair transplant work simply because they do not
» » have the option to shave due to scarring.
» »
» » Going forward, I’m interested to see how the recipient results turn out
» for
» » all these patients. Hopefully along the way, someone can take pictures
» like
» » gc did and we can get more evidence of donor regeneration.
» »
» » caddarik do you mind if I post your pictures on another forum?
»
»
»
»
» and as you said, even if it’s not a total regeneration, it’s still amazing
» to see how it heals!!!
No problem,
I think regeneration is a reality, as I said in this thread, even on the 3rd day, one of my friend had a close look and said he could not see a scar or holes or whatever!!!
I’m sure they reach what they claim…the study they published in 2010 showed a rate of 97% of regenaration based on 5 candidates!!!
Also, what made me think it’s true, is that they REALLY don’t take risk in exagerating the number at extraction, if they feel they have reached the maximum in order to allow the regenaration, they really don’t go further!!!
Example me, when the extracting assistants saw my donor, they were very confident, like, “wow, a very good donor, very good grafts, we will be able to go much more than 1600…” but in the end, they stopped at 1800 because on my back left side, my skin was though, extracting became complicate, they did not want to take the risk of damaging anything, they really stopped at 1789, considering it was safer to be reasonnable!!! If that left side did not complicate de process, I’m sure I would have reached 1900 or 2000 but they preferd to guarantee a good donor regeneration!!! and I appreciated their will to preserve instead of trying to impress me!!!
Also, they call you on your cell phone the day after your return home, they follow you up via email!!! They are really doin’ a great job!!! Voilà
Now I’m at almost 3 weeks and it’s not even itchy anymore, no one could ever tell I had something done there!!! and still, my density will improve the coming months!!!
I gave 9400 euros (means around 12.000 dollars), that’s quiet an amount for 1789 grafts, but I did not damage my donor, so even if I have a less dramatic obvious result, I preserve my donor for next treatments and breaktrough treatments, because I’m sure, this is the beginning of a new era where people will not accept anymore to eat poison or to get awful transplant, scars, or limited donor!!! we are in 2012, stem cells is the way, regeneration or multiplication are the only things I’m ready to give money for!!! The rest is waste, obliges you to have uncomfortable life, rituals, with poor results and side effects!!! No, thank you!!!
» Hello Caddarik79
»
» I am sorry for asking same question again and please accept my apologies if
» you have already answered it somewhere in the thread (I was not able to
» find it).
»
» Looking at your personal donor area, what do you think donor regeneration
» claim of Dr Gho?
»
» I completely agree with you that even without regeneration, HST is a
» superior method due to its non scarring feature.
»
» Thanks, Badbaldy
»
»
»
» » » » Thanks caddarik79 for all your efforts, it is much appreciated.
» » » »
» » » » It has to be said, your donor area looks very good indeed, it
» doesn’t
» » » prove
» » » » regeneration in your case of course because we cannot tell that -
» but
» » » your
» » » » donor DOES look pristine.
» » »
» » » Agreed. I can’t see any difference between the before and after
» pictures
» » of
» » » the donor. From my perspective, it seems hard to believe that Gho can
» » » consistently produce such pristine donors if there wasn’t some donor
» » » regeneration occurring.
» » »
» » » At this point, I think it’s pretty conclusive that HST is far and away
» » the
» » » least scarring, most minimally invasive hair transplant procedure that
» » you
» » » can get. In almost all these cases documented online, the donor seems
» to
» » be
» » » fully healed after 2 weeks and there’s practically no signs of a
» » procedure.
» » » That’s a pretty huge development when you consider how many people are
» » » stuck repairing previous hair transplant work simply because they do
» not
» » » have the option to shave due to scarring.
» » »
» » » Going forward, I’m interested to see how the recipient results turn
» out
» » for
» » » all these patients. Hopefully along the way, someone can take pictures
» » like
» » » gc did and we can get more evidence of donor regeneration.
» » »
» » » caddarik do you mind if I post your pictures on another forum?
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » and as you said, even if it’s not a total regeneration, it’s still
» amazing
» » to see how it heals!!!
your donor looking great man, thanks for sharing…
are you using the minox they gave you on your recipient area ?
I only see one case. Multiple is more than one. I also am not sure this is regeneration or just plain regrowth. Hard to tell.
Hi diamond6,
From what I read from you, you need strong evidence and after asking for pics, you ask for stronger argument!!!
What I propose you to do, is to go yourself get a procedure,and check by yourself with a labo if your regrowth is effective and also your regeneration percentage.
They published studies, you have pics from dudes on this site, Gho takes Norwwod6 cases, he did videos where he claims officialy about his method!!!
I don’t think you will find someone here who did his procedure, go and pay a lab hundreds of euro to give you proofs and satisfy you.
I don’t see the point of your interventions…
Save some money, do a tiny one, 600 grafts, and do all the checks about regeneration by yourself and then come here, and share this piece of information with us!!!
deal?
» I only see one case. Multiple is more than one. I also am not sure this
» is regeneration or just plain regrowth. Hard to tell.
Ah, even better…ha ha ha
Ok, again if I read you correctly I only have one advice for you:
“don’t waste your time here, come back in 3 years”
I mean, you say it yourself, you would have to see multiple cases and years down the road to be a proven product.
It’s your choice, I respect that, but please, don’t come back every time to repeat it, I don’t see the point…of course there will always be scepticals, it’s part of the game.
If you have another explanatio about the purpose of your replies, it’s more than welcome.
By the Way : 6 months waiting list there and a guy who did 8 procedures.
They are honest there, I remember when I said to them that they were the cure, they stopped me by reminding me they can never give you the density of your donor because of technical limits!!!
Injections might improve that…and also, what I’m waiting for, it’s a breaktrough from other labs and researchs (Japan etc) to start a real competition on concrete treatments, then we will have more than a choice!! And even if it needs another 5 years to come and I did oe or two Gho procedures, My donor will still be pristine and sufficient for those new stuffs!!!
» Would have to see multiple cases and years down the road to be a proven
» product
»
» for me. Also I have read on a couple of other sites that Patients
» experienced
»
» No regrowth in the donor sites. Sorry but again not enough concrete Info
» yet.
» I only see one case. Multiple is more than one. I also am not sure this
» is regeneration or just plain regrowth. Hard to tell.
diamond6 you never seem happy with cases presented, i know you have been badly burnt by industry in the past and you possibly working for drWoods but Gho is future and we have more and more cases that support Gho is real.
dont listen what fue surgeon tells you, they have a lot to lose by denying hst…
have small procedure 500 hst grafts in your hairline and see for yrself,
spencer kobren interview with gho is coming up n it sounds promissing judging by spences comments…n he is even bigger sceptic than you
I at this point do not need a procedure since I have been improved to a point
of satisfaction. I again restate that I would have to see multiple, multiple
results to be sold. Your donor looks great but I have read that even GHO does
not guarantee regrowth. I will await to see this on the news and read about
it on other info sites. After all if it is that big of a deal it will sell
itself. Right?
» I at this point do not need a procedure since I have been improved to a
» point
»
» of satisfaction. I again restate that I would have to see multiple,
» multiple
»
» results to be sold. Your donor looks great but I have read that even GHO
» does
»
» not guarantee regrowth. I will await to see this on the news and read
» about
»
» it on other info sites. After all if it is that big of a deal it will
» sell
»
» itself. Right?
it’s already selling itself big time regardless what many doctors in the industry and ppl on forums think… 4 clincs so far with a huge waiting list… new clinc to open in Jakerta this year and another one in Dubai in the coming 2 years. and you still think it’s still not selling itself ?