How many of you are on super hair vitamin

Supplements for hair loss
1

Like Maxi Hair or Ultra Hair, and if you are not do you supplment with any other types of vitamins and what kind are they, are you on MSM or Horsetail also and how are you guys with Spirulina doing

I know you guys claim that vitamins do no good but for the percentage who have taken the plunge and gotten on them, they do not necessarily cause regrowth in the traditional sense but the overall hair quality, and growth rate etc, especially MSM can do wonders along with Horsetail. I think they are a very worthwhile addition to any of our regimens

I was on only vitamins and minerals for 20 yrs and they made a world of difference, however I did not add any type of supplment for DHT, so my DHT eventually got terrible and in 1999 my hair was on its death bed. After I added Saw Palmetto and the other DHT blocers in 99 it regenerated extremely well in all the thinning areas, and continues to do so.

I would never stop my Maxi Hair and minerals, they are too critical to healthy hair. Do not make the mistake of thinking that just because something doesnt cause direct regrowth, it is not important to your hair.

For example Biotin. Critical to protein synthesis. I take 2000mcg timed release in the Maxi Hair. Very difficult to get this amount by accident or diet alone.

A study was once done on Rats to see if Biotin was important. The Biotin was stripped completely out of the rats diet. What happened? Did the rats hair get weak? grey? thinning? Nope

The Rats Went Totally Bald

If an animal that never loses its hair, can go totally bald, without one supplement in its diet, how important do you think that supplement is to us thinning hair guys?

VERY

What about minerals,
Without the proper balance of minerals in your diet, (are you confident you get this) vitamins will not be assimilated by the body, they are not recognized by the body, and they pass right through the digestive system and are not absorbed correctly.

Thats why i take a good separate mineral supplement, If you can find one with no Iron, that is probably better, since most of us get enough Iron already (thanks jacob)

for those of you who say, I eat a balanced diet, I need no supplements , really?

Your skin and hair and nails are LAST IN LINE on the vitamin trail. Your body does not care about hair skin and nails, and will nourish the internal organs and brain first, and then and only then, if there are any nutrients left over, it will give them to your hair. Are you confident enough in your diet and your digestive system absorbing all the nutrients to take no super hair vitamins?
Im not

try getting 2000mcg Biotin in your diet, It would take like 6 eggs, in one day, to get that, Do you eat 6 eggs a day. The other natural paths are similarly difficult.

2

» Like Maxi Hair or Ultra Hair, and if you are not do you supplment with any
» other types of vitamins and what kind are they, are you on MSM or
» Horsetail also and how are you guys with Spirulina doing
»
» I know you guys claim that vitamins do no good but for the percentage who
» have taken the plunge and gotten on them, they do not necessarily cause
» regrowth in the traditional sense but the overall hair quality, and growth
» rate etc, especially MSM can do wonders along with Horsetail. I think they
» are a very worthwhile addition to any of our regimens
»
» I was on only vitamins and minerals for 20 yrs and they made a world of
» difference, however I did not add any type of supplment for DHT, so my
» DHT eventually got terrible and in 1999 my hair was on its death bed.
» After I added Saw Palmetto and the other DHT blocers in 99 it regenerated
» extremely well in all the thinning areas, and continues to do so.
»
» I would never stop my Maxi Hair and minerals, they are too critical to
» healthy hair. Do not make the mistake of thinking that just because
» something doesnt cause direct regrowth, it is not important to your hair.
»
»
» For example Biotin. Critical to protein synthesis. I take 2000mcg timed
» release in the Maxi Hair. Very difficult to get this amount by accident or
» diet alone.
»
» A study was once done on Rats to see if Biotin was important. The Biotin
» was stripped completely out of the rats diet. What happened? Did the rats
» hair get weak? grey? thinning? Nope
»
» The Rats Went Totally Bald
»
» If an animal that never loses its hair, can go totally bald, without one
» supplement in its diet, how important do you think that supplement is to
» us thinning hair guys?
»
» VERY
»
» What about minerals,
» Without the proper balance of minerals in your diet, (are you confident
» you get this) vitamins will not be assimilated by the body, they are not
» recognized by the body, and they pass right through the digestive system
» and are not absorbed correctly.
»
» Thats why i take a good separate mineral supplement, If you can find one
» with no Iron, that is probably better, since most of us get enough Iron
» already (thanks jacob)
»
» for those of you who say, I eat a balanced diet, I need no supplements ,
» really?
»
» Your skin and hair and nails are LAST IN LINE on the vitamin trail. Your
» body does not care about hair skin and nails, and will nourish the
» internal organs and brain first, and then and only then, if there are any
» nutrients left over, it will give them to your hair. Are you confident
» enough in your diet and your digestive system absorbing all the nutrients
» to take no super hair vitamins?
» Im not
»
» try getting 2000mcg Biotin in your diet, It would take like 6 eggs, in one
» day, to get that, Do you eat 6 eggs a day. The other natural paths are
» similarly difficult.

As you seem to be addressing DHT.

What you might want to do is to look into supplements that balance Nitric Oxide production.

Regards
Pete

3

» » Like Maxi Hair or Ultra Hair, and if you are not do you supplment with
» any
» » other types of vitamins and what kind are they, are you on MSM or
» » Horsetail also and how are you guys with Spirulina doing
» »
» » I know you guys claim that vitamins do no good but for the percentage
» who
» » have taken the plunge and gotten on them, they do not necessarily cause
» » regrowth in the traditional sense but the overall hair quality, and
» growth
» » rate etc, especially MSM can do wonders along with Horsetail. I think
» they
» » are a very worthwhile addition to any of our regimens
» »
» » I was on only vitamins and minerals for 20 yrs and they made a world of
» » difference, however I did not add any type of supplment for DHT, so my
» » DHT eventually got terrible and in 1999 my hair was on its death bed.
» » After I added Saw Palmetto and the other DHT blocers in 99 it
» regenerated
» » extremely well in all the thinning areas, and continues to do so.
» »
» » I would never stop my Maxi Hair and minerals, they are too critical to
» » healthy hair. Do not make the mistake of thinking that just because
» » something doesnt cause direct regrowth, it is not important to your
» hair.
» »
» »
» » For example Biotin. Critical to protein synthesis. I take 2000mcg timed
» » release in the Maxi Hair. Very difficult to get this amount by accident
» or
» » diet alone.
» »
» » A study was once done on Rats to see if Biotin was important. The
» Biotin
» » was stripped completely out of the rats diet. What happened? Did the
» rats
» » hair get weak? grey? thinning? Nope
» »
» » The Rats Went Totally Bald
» »
» » If an animal that never loses its hair, can go totally bald, without
» one
» » supplement in its diet, how important do you think that supplement is
» to
» » us thinning hair guys?
» »
» » VERY
» »
» » What about minerals,
» » Without the proper balance of minerals in your diet, (are you confident
» » you get this) vitamins will not be assimilated by the body, they are
» not
» » recognized by the body, and they pass right through the digestive
» system
» » and are not absorbed correctly.
» »
» » Thats why i take a good separate mineral supplement, If you can find
» one
» » with no Iron, that is probably better, since most of us get enough Iron
» » already (thanks jacob)
» »
» » for those of you who say, I eat a balanced diet, I need no supplements
» ,
» » really?
» »
» » Your skin and hair and nails are LAST IN LINE on the vitamin trail.
» Your
» » body does not care about hair skin and nails, and will nourish the
» » internal organs and brain first, and then and only then, if there are
» any
» » nutrients left over, it will give them to your hair. Are you confident
» » enough in your diet and your digestive system absorbing all the
» nutrients
» » to take no super hair vitamins?
» » Im not
» »
» » try getting 2000mcg Biotin in your diet, It would take like 6 eggs, in
» one
» » day, to get that, Do you eat 6 eggs a day. The other natural paths are
» » similarly difficult.
»
»
»
» As you seem to be addressing DHT.
»
» What you might want to do is to look into supplements that balance Nitric
» Oxide production.
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

well i guess the lack of response to this indicates most of the board is not on a super hair vitamin

they dont know what they are missing

4

» » » Like Maxi Hair or Ultra Hair, and if you are not do you supplment with
» » any
» » » other types of vitamins and what kind are they, are you on MSM or
» » » Horsetail also and how are you guys with Spirulina doing
» » »
» » » I know you guys claim that vitamins do no good but for the percentage
» » who
» » » have taken the plunge and gotten on them, they do not necessarily
» cause
» » » regrowth in the traditional sense but the overall hair quality, and
» » growth
» » » rate etc, especially MSM can do wonders along with Horsetail. I think
» » they
» » » are a very worthwhile addition to any of our regimens
» » »
» » » I was on only vitamins and minerals for 20 yrs and they made a world
» of
» » » difference, however I did not add any type of supplment for DHT, so
» my
» » » DHT eventually got terrible and in 1999 my hair was on its death bed.
» » » After I added Saw Palmetto and the other DHT blocers in 99 it
» » regenerated
» » » extremely well in all the thinning areas, and continues to do so.
» » »
» » » I would never stop my Maxi Hair and minerals, they are too critical
» to
» » » healthy hair. Do not make the mistake of thinking that just because
» » » something doesnt cause direct regrowth, it is not important to your
» » hair.
» » »
» » »
» » » For example Biotin. Critical to protein synthesis. I take 2000mcg
» timed
» » » release in the Maxi Hair. Very difficult to get this amount by
» accident
» » or
» » » diet alone.
» » »
» » » A study was once done on Rats to see if Biotin was important. The
» » Biotin
» » » was stripped completely out of the rats diet. What happened? Did the
» » rats
» » » hair get weak? grey? thinning? Nope
» » »
» » » The Rats Went Totally Bald
» » »
» » » If an animal that never loses its hair, can go totally bald, without
» » one
» » » supplement in its diet, how important do you think that supplement is
» » to
» » » us thinning hair guys?
» » »
» » » VERY
» » »
» » » What about minerals,
» » » Without the proper balance of minerals in your diet, (are you
» confident
» » » you get this) vitamins will not be assimilated by the body, they are
» » not
» » » recognized by the body, and they pass right through the digestive
» » system
» » » and are not absorbed correctly.
» » »
» » » Thats why i take a good separate mineral supplement, If you can find
» » one
» » » with no Iron, that is probably better, since most of us get enough
» Iron
» » » already (thanks jacob)
» » »
» » » for those of you who say, I eat a balanced diet, I need no
» supplements
» » ,
» » » really?
» » »
» » » Your skin and hair and nails are LAST IN LINE on the vitamin trail.
» » Your
» » » body does not care about hair skin and nails, and will nourish the
» » » internal organs and brain first, and then and only then, if there are
» » any
» » » nutrients left over, it will give them to your hair. Are you
» confident
» » » enough in your diet and your digestive system absorbing all the
» » nutrients
» » » to take no super hair vitamins?
» » » Im not
» » »
» » » try getting 2000mcg Biotin in your diet, It would take like 6 eggs,
» in
» » one
» » » day, to get that, Do you eat 6 eggs a day. The other natural paths
» are
» » » similarly difficult.
» »
» »
» »
» » As you seem to be addressing DHT.
» »
» » What you might want to do is to look into supplements that balance
» Nitric
» » Oxide production.
» »
» »
» » Regards
» » Pete
»
»
» well i guess the lack of response to this indicates most of the board is
» not on a super hair vitamin
»
» they dont know what they are missing

Hangin’, I am not on those vitamins but I do take a One A Day vitamain daily if I remember. I just have a hard time believing that any vitamin would help hair that much. Of course my belief system is different than most when it comes to the cause of baldness.

Hangin’, not to change the subject but how long do you think this is going to take before David’s segregation of the forum is accomplished. He has never come out with a timetable and it sucks waiting around for it. It seems everything the nonshampooers comment on gets locked up. I feel like some type of animal.

I just responded to a simple question to a guy asking an opinion on who he thinks will solve the cure for baldness and again I was viciously attacked by two of these shampooists now claiming I didn’t belong there. What is up with that?

5

» » » » Like Maxi Hair or Ultra Hair, and if you are not do you supplment
» with
» » » any
» » » » other types of vitamins and what kind are they, are you on MSM or
» » » » Horsetail also and how are you guys with Spirulina doing
» » » »
» » » » I know you guys claim that vitamins do no good but for the
» percentage
» » » who
» » » » have taken the plunge and gotten on them, they do not necessarily
» » cause
» » » » regrowth in the traditional sense but the overall hair quality, and
» » » growth
» » » » rate etc, especially MSM can do wonders along with Horsetail. I
» think
» » » they
» » » » are a very worthwhile addition to any of our regimens
» » » »
» » » » I was on only vitamins and minerals for 20 yrs and they made a
» world
» » of
» » » » difference, however I did not add any type of supplment for DHT,
» so
» » my
» » » » DHT eventually got terrible and in 1999 my hair was on its death
» bed.
» » » » After I added Saw Palmetto and the other DHT blocers in 99 it
» » » regenerated
» » » » extremely well in all the thinning areas, and continues to do so.
» » » »
» » » » I would never stop my Maxi Hair and minerals, they are too critical
» » to
» » » » healthy hair. Do not make the mistake of thinking that just because
» » » » something doesnt cause direct regrowth, it is not important to your
» » » hair.
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » For example Biotin. Critical to protein synthesis. I take 2000mcg
» » timed
» » » » release in the Maxi Hair. Very difficult to get this amount by
» » accident
» » » or
» » » » diet alone.
» » » »
» » » » A study was once done on Rats to see if Biotin was important. The
» » » Biotin
» » » » was stripped completely out of the rats diet. What happened? Did
» the
» » » rats
» » » » hair get weak? grey? thinning? Nope
» » » »
» » » » The Rats Went Totally Bald
» » » »
» » » » If an animal that never loses its hair, can go totally bald,
» without
» » » one
» » » » supplement in its diet, how important do you think that supplement
» is
» » » to
» » » » us thinning hair guys?
» » » »
» » » » VERY
» » » »
» » » » What about minerals,
» » » » Without the proper balance of minerals in your diet, (are you
» » confident
» » » » you get this) vitamins will not be assimilated by the body, they
» are
» » » not
» » » » recognized by the body, and they pass right through the digestive
» » » system
» » » » and are not absorbed correctly.
» » » »
» » » » Thats why i take a good separate mineral supplement, If you can
» find
» » » one
» » » » with no Iron, that is probably better, since most of us get enough
» » Iron
» » » » already (thanks jacob)
» » » »
» » » » for those of you who say, I eat a balanced diet, I need no
» » supplements
» » » ,
» » » » really?
» » » »
» » » » Your skin and hair and nails are LAST IN LINE on the vitamin trail.
» » » Your
» » » » body does not care about hair skin and nails, and will nourish the
» » » » internal organs and brain first, and then and only then, if there
» are
» » » any
» » » » nutrients left over, it will give them to your hair. Are you
» » confident
» » » » enough in your diet and your digestive system absorbing all the
» » » nutrients
» » » » to take no super hair vitamins?
» » » » Im not
» » » »
» » » » try getting 2000mcg Biotin in your diet, It would take like 6 eggs,
» » in
» » » one
» » » » day, to get that, Do you eat 6 eggs a day. The other natural paths
» » are
» » » » similarly difficult.
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » As you seem to be addressing DHT.
» » »
» » » What you might want to do is to look into supplements that balance
» » Nitric
» » » Oxide production.
» » »
» » »
» » » Regards
» » » Pete
» »
» »
» » well i guess the lack of response to this indicates most of the board
» is
» » not on a super hair vitamin
» »
» » they dont know what they are missing
»
» Hangin’, I am not on those vitamins but I do take a One A Day vitamain
» daily if I remember. I just have a hard time believing that any vitamin
» would help hair that much. Of course my belief system is different than
» most when it comes to the cause of baldness.
»
» Hangin’, not to change the subject but how long do you think this is going
» to take before David’s segregation of the forum is accomplished. He has
» never come out with a timetable and it sucks waiting around for it. It
» seems everything the nonshampooers comment on gets locked up. I feel like
» some type of animal.
»
» I just responded to a simple question to a guy asking an opinion on who
» he thinks will solve the cure for baldness and again I was viciously
» attacked by two of these shampooists now claiming I didn’t belong there.
» What is up with that?

as far as the vitamins , the one a day is better than nothing i guess but woefully inadequate for your hair,

I speak from experience, For 20 yrs I had no DHT blockers, only nutrition and vitamins , starting in the 1970s when they didnt even have rogaine or propecia, i was basically flying blind

I researched and the only thing i found that i could do was nutrition and vitamins, The super hair vitamins in my case DELAYED my MPB , slowed it down, by about 15 yrs, then it started getting terrible in `1999 since I had done nothing to address my DHT buildup.

Since adding the DHT blockers and being one of the lucky ones to respond to them, my hair has tremendously regenerated, albeit only in "thinning " areas, but nonetheless thats a great self esteem boost, and it has thickened unbelievably on the sides back and top front,

The hair vitamins through the 80s and 90s were all I had, so I could literally watch the effect or non effect of these vitamins on my problem, every day. I learned what worked and what didnt, I must have tried 1000 different types of supplments . I at one time was taking like 30 different bottles of pills. My trial and error showed me that the Ultra Hair by Natures Plus or the Maxi Hair by country Life, I believe because of the timed released 2000mcg Biotin,worked better than most of my other supplmemts combined. If I stopped taking them, my hair went downhill within a week. Within 1 or 2 yrs if i completely stopped my supplements I am convinced I would have been bald on top.

Sure they might not necessarily regrow hair like the DHT blockers did for me, but I would never stop taking them. They make a HUGE difference, especially MSM and Horsetail, do a bit of research on those, I will soon post some MSM links and Horsetail links

as far as the shampooist battle, I think everyone needs to calm down, I also have been guilty of sarcastic remarks, which only puts fire on the flame which leads to the thread being locked.

Perhaps if we all agreed to , agree to disagree and conduct ourselves as if it were a college debate with an audience, we could learn from each other. i think as I said before that convincing guys to stop using shampoo is difficult, and it would be much easier to try to convince them to switch to a NON SLS shampoo, I would be willing to try that if i could find it in the phils

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MSM is already included in Maxi hair or Ultra Hair, two excellent hair vitamins, I take the Maxi Hair now. When I was taking MSM separately my hair was like Silk, its an amazing addition to encourage healthy strong hair , in your diet.

http://www.headofhair.co.uk/hair-loss-article-msm-study-13.html

Hair and Nail Growth Study Concludes:

“Hair and nail growth, hair brilliance and nail lustre are significantly improved by supplementing MSM in the diet”

A recent double-blind, placebo-controlled pilot study performed by Ronald M. Lawrence, M.D., Ph.D., showed that 100% of the subjects taking MSM (Methyl-sulfonyl-methane), a nutritional supplement that provides biologically active sulfur, showed increased hair growth compared to a group on placebo. Only one subject on placebo showed an increase in hair length.

Hair Brilliance
In addition, 30% of the subjects on MSM showed improvement in hair brilliance, while none of the subjects on placebo showed such an improvement.

Study participants Impressed
?All subjects supplementing with MSM were impressed with the changes in the health and appearance of their hair,? said Dr. Lawrence. ?The cosmetologists literally could differentiate which participants were on MSM by the appearance of the hair, alone, after six weeks.?

Nail length and thickness
A second double-blind, placebo-controlled, pilot trial, conducted simultaneously, showed that 50% of the subjects on MSM showed increased nail length, thickness and lustre compared to the group on placebo.
Approximately 10% of those on placebo showed increased nail length growth. None of the subjects on placebo showed an increase in nail thickness.

Efficacy Study Confirms Benefits
Cathleen London, M.D., a Boston-based family practitioner, said ?I have been prescribing MSM for my patients experiencing pain from arthritis and fibromyalgia, and they kept saying how great their hair and nails looked. It?s good to see an efficacy study confirm that there are benefits in this area.?

Study Conclusion
Based on the results of the trials, Dr. Lawrence concluded:
?Oral supplementation with MSM is a valuable addition to hair and nail growth. Hair and nail health was significantly improved in a short term of six weeks. If the trials were continued for eight to sixteen weeks, I feel the results would have been even better for those on MSM.?

Hair Growth - Study Details
The hair trial involved a total of 21 patients ? 5 women and 16 men. Data was collected by certified cosmetologists under the direction of Dr. Lawrence.
The trial parameters included hair length, brilliance, and diameter of the individual hair shafts using industry standard measurement scales.

Nail Growth Study Details
The nail trial involved a total of 11 subjects ? 10 women and 1 man. Again, data was collected by certified cosmetologists.
Trial parameters included nail length, thickness, lustre and general appearance using industry standard measurement scales.

For more information on MSM or to order your supply, please contact Mike Pritchard-Jones at A1MSM.

“As a regular user of MSM, I can honestly say I have noticed a huge increase in the speed my hair grows”
Andy Hunt

\

http://www.sunstoneherbals.com/MSM_Research_Bulletin_-_Hair_and_Nails_Study.htm
MSM Research Bulletin: Hair & Nails Study

Study Name:

The Effectiveness of the Use of Oral LIGNISULmsm (Methylsulfonylmethane) Supplementation on Hair & Nail Health

PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR: Ronald M. Lawrence, M.D., Ph.D.

INSTITUTION: Council for Natural Nutrition

A. HAIR STUDY

INTRODUCTION:

    A total of 21 patients were studied for 6 weeks for the hair study component. Data was collected by Certified Cosmetologists under the direction of the Principal Investigator. Both the investigators and the patients were blinded as to whether supplementation was with placebo or LIGNISULMSM. The subjects were randomly assigned to either Group A (placebo) or Group B (LIGNISULMSM).

    Sixteen of the subjects were men and 5 were women. Dosage was 3,000 mg/day in both Groups A & B.

    The study participants were studied for hair length, brilliance, and diameter of the individual hair fibers using industry standard measurement scales at the beginning of the study period (t=0) and after 6 weeks (t=6 weeks).

RESULTS & DISCUSSION:

    Those subjects supplemented with LIGNISULMSM showed significant improvement in hair health, while those on placebo showed either no change, or only slight changes after 6 weeks.  The most marked changes were measured in hair length and hair brilliance. The women showed the better results in hair growth, brilliance, and thickness of hair fibers.

    All subjects supplemented with LIGNISULMSM were duly impressed with the changes in the health and appearance of their hair.  The cosmetologists literally could differentiate which participants were on LIGNISULMSM by the appearance of the hair alone after 6 weeks.

    It is expected that if the study were continued for 8 to 16 weeks, the results would have been even better for those on LIGNISULMSM as has been our past experience.

CONCLUSION:

    This pilot double blind, random study proves that oral supplementation with LIGNISULMSM is a valuable addition to hair care. Hair health was significantly improved in a short term of 6 weeks.

B. NAIL STUDY

INTRODUCTION:

    A total of 11 patients were studied for 6 weeks for the nail study component. Data was collected by Certified Cosmetologists under the direction of the Principal Investigator. All investigators and the patients were blinded as to whether supplementation was with placebo or LIGNISULMSM. The subjects were randomly assigned to either Group A (placebo) or Group B (LIGNISULMSM).

    Dosage was 3,000 mg/day in both Groups A & B.

    The study participants’ nails were measured for length, thickness, luster and general appearance using industry standard measurement scales at the beginning of the study period (t=0) and after 6 weeks (t=6 weeks).

RESULTS & DISCUSSION:

    Those subjects supplemented with LIGNISULMSM showed significant improvement in nail strength, thickness and appearance. Results would be better at periods of over 8 weeks from our clinical experience, but it was felt to be too difficult to keep clients enrolled in the study if it lasted longer than 6 weeks. This way we had no dropouts. Overall improvement rate was 80% even in this short study. All subjects supplemented with LIGNISULMSM stated they would continue to use LIGNISULMSM on an ongoing basis based on the improvement in nail health and appearance that was observed.

CONCLUSION:

    This pilot double blind, random study proves that oral supplementation with LIGNISULMSM is a valuable addition to nail care. Nail health was significantly improved by 80% overall in a short term of 6 weeks.

Note: The above statements are observations only and have yet to be statistically verified.

The statements in this document have not been evaluated by the FDA.
This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.

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» »
»
» well i guess the lack of response to this indicates most of the board is
» not on a super hair vitamin
»
» they dont know what they are missing

Ever since the forum was changed it’s been dead- except for the stupid no-shampoo’n arguments. Plus you keep bringing this up every few months.

There are plenty of multi’s out there that have the bases covered as far as ingreds go…compared to these “hair vitamins”. Must we go over the time-released nonsense again as well?

8

» » »
» »
» » well i guess the lack of response to this indicates most of the board
» is
» » not on a super hair vitamin
» »
» » they dont know what they are missing
»
» Ever since the forum was changed it’s been dead- except for the stupid
» no-shampoo’n arguments. Plus you keep bringing this up every few months.
»
» There are plenty of multi’s out there that have the bases covered as far
» as ingreds go…compared to these “hair vitamins”. Must we go over the
» time-released nonsense again as well?

this post is for those who are interested, if you are not why do you click on it

all the posters just talk about shampoo
boring

9

Hasn’t this topic been discussed, ad nauseum.

There is no need for these type of (synthetic) supplements. Vitamins can be obtained in abundance from a healthy diet of fruits, vegetables, and dairy products.

Biotin is overrated.

10

» Hasn’t this topic been discussed, ad nauseum.
»
» There is no need for these type of (synthetic) supplements. Vitamins can
» be obtained in abundance from a healthy diet of fruits, vegetables, and
» dairy products.
»
» Biotin is overrated.

im going on personal trial and error…why are you on the all natural board if you think u can get everything from a balanced diet, do you even know what amounts you need to eat of any food to get what vitamin, I bet you dont

read this about the myth of a balanced diet

theoretically its possible to get things from your diet , who sits home and hand cooks all their meals, ? I sure dont. Do you sit home and eat raw vegetables and fruit and whole grain breads and …heck to get the biotin I take you need to eat 6 eggs, do you do that?

we live in a fast based drive in window society, the chances you get what you need for healthy hair from your diet, are very minimal. Most of us have no idea what nutrient is in what food.

yes the rats in the study who had all the biotin taken out of thier diet went BALD

u think the study was lying?

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The rats had a DEFICIENCY. I do not. And neither do most people. Pumping yourself full of biotin is NOT going to prevent you from losing your hair.

Synthetic hair vitamins are not a panacea. Every time you pass through that drive-thru window, your body and hair suffer.

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Long time lurker,1st time poster. I have tried different hair vitamins as suggested by many on this board, how come I never see any regrowth? But when I take Propecia I see the difference in my hair? I do not want to have to rely on this drug forever plus I am planning on getting married soon. Any suggestions? It seems that the vitamins just pass through my body and never got absorbed.

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» The rats had a DEFICIENCY. I do not. And neither do most people. Pumping
» yourself full of biotin is NOT going to prevent you from losing your hair.
»
»
» Synthetic hair vitamins are not a panacea. Every time you pass through
» that drive-thru window, your body and hair suffer.

the rats had no deficiency

they were normal
then they took all the biotin out of their diet
they went totally bald

so here we have animals that never lose their hair, going totally bald because of the lack of ONE vitamin in their body

and you guys say that BIOTIN is not important to hair health and its OVERRATED?
I find that astonishing

have you had your blood tested, how do you know you are not deficient

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» Long time lurker,1st time poster. I have tried different hair vitamins as
» suggested by many on this board, how come I never see any regrowth? But
» when I take Propecia I see the difference in my hair? I do not want to
» have to rely on this drug forever plus I am planning on getting married
» soon. Any suggestions? It seems that the vitamins just pass through my
» body and never got absorbed.

if you read that article i posted it says minerals are MORE important than vitamins and without a good chelated multi mineral or a great mineral balance in your body , the vitamins will NOT BE ABSORBED
they are not even recognized by the body
that might be your problem

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Biotin was taken out of their diet, leading to a deficiency. This deficiency lead to the rats’ baldness.

MPB sufferers are not going bald because of a lack of biotin in their diet, and you know it.

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» Biotin was taken out of their diet, leading to a deficiency. This
» deficiency lead to the rats’ baldness.
»
» MPB sufferers are not going bald because of a lack of biotin in their
» diet, and you know it.

there are many factors that contribute to hair loss…so you are saying if the rats can go bald from total lack of biotin, and rats never lose their hair

then a deficiency in biotin will have no effect on human hair, thats absurd
im not saying you are going bald because of biotin
im saying that nutrition is very overlooked as well as supplments vitamins and minerals, they matter A LOT in healthy hair

most balding guys are not only thinning but they have extremely unhealthy hair, which aggravates and accelerates their balding

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Persons suffering from biotin deficiency are quite rare, I have read.

» most balding guys are not only thinning but they have extremely unhealthy
» hair, which aggravates and accelerates their balding

Agreed.

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» Persons suffering from biotin deficiency are quite rare, I have read.
»
» » most balding guys are not only thinning but they have extremely
» unhealthy
» » hair, which aggravates and accelerates their balding
»
» Agreed.

i do not think its as simple as that

even if you have a normal level of biotin in your blood, first of all the FDA
or whoever makes the RDA, the RDA required daily amount is not determined by some scientific testing, its an average daily amount which most people consume, absolutely meaningless, so the RDA is not a factor to go by

so who is saying most people are not deficient, according to the RDA most people are certainly not deficient. If you had what they say is a normal amount of Biotin, 300mcg/day Hell I used to take that, every day in a supplment it did NOTHING for my fallout. I took 2000 mcg in a supplment still did NOTHING, the only thing that stopped my excess fallout was 2000mcg TIMED RELEASED biotin , that made a HUGE difference

there is a reason they put 2000mcg in those pills and there is a reason they make them timed release. Do you think its just a coincidence all of the super hair vits have that amount in them? They make money by REPEAT business and guys like me buy for years and years and years, they cant survive with first time customers who dont come back

if the vitamins dont make a big difference in their hair why would people continue to spend the money and buy it again and again, they wont

they put those ingredients in them BECAUSE THEY WORK, pure and simple
they make a HUGE differnce in guys hair, and womens hair,

It is also neither free nor easy to make vitamins Timed Release, If they did not feel it made a big difference and worked a hell of a lot better, they would not waste the time or money to make them timed release.
I have learned this by trial and error and I have a NASTY balding gene, and if they work on me, they can work on anyone

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Well, you have to ask yourself:

  1. Is the prolonged use of synthetic vitamins safe?
  2. What percentage of these vitamins is absorbed in the body?
  3. Do the vitamins lose their effectiveness over time?

Cheap synthetic vitamins cannot replace a healthy diet of fruits, vegetables, breads, and dairy products. And people in the medical profession will tell you the same.

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» Well, you have to ask yourself:
»
» 1. Is the prolonged use of synthetic vitamins safe?
» 2. What percentage of these vitamins is absorbed in the body?
» 3 Do the vitamins lose their effectiveness over time?
»
» Cheap synthetic vitamins cannot replace a healthy diet of fruits,
» vegetables, breads, and dairy products. And people in the medical
» profession will tell you the same.

I have seen studies to the contrary , which said the body does not care where the vitamins come from, all vitamins are not synthetic, do you think they manufacture most herbs in the lab/ how about Nettles for example… nope they get it from root of a plant, or leaves of a plant, most herbs certainly are not synthetic, they must derive them from a natural source to put them in the pill.
Vitamin C, can come from rose hips, is that synthetic? Hardly…pygeum where does that come from? The bark of a tree.

you dont know what you are talking about