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#1

Does anybody have any opinions about the new series of pictures on Hirtzig’s website?

http://www.nyhairloss.com/slide7.htm


#2

» Does anybody have any opinions about the new series of pictures on
» Hirtzig’s website?
»
» http://www.nyhairloss.com/slide7.htm

Yesterday, I posted an interesting interview with Dr. Gary Hitzig here:
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-69545-page-0-category-1-order-last_answer.html

Anyway, after that, I viewed all the photos at Dr. Hitzig’s website, and it seems that some photos confirm his claims in the interview and some cases look pretty damn. good and legit.

But what I found interesting:
Dr. Hitzig claims that he is using just plucked hair shafts (not extracted entire hair follicle grafts!) in some procedures/cases – just plucked/pulled out hair shafts with a tweezer!

After soaking these hairs in ACell’s Extracellular Matrix (ECM), it seems most of the HAIRS (not entire FU grafts!) survived at the recipient site and produced/regenerated cycling hair FOLLICLES!

About 10 years ago (2001), Dr. Gho did a small but interesting study with just plucked hair shafts, he transplanted to the recipient site:

http://www.hasci.com/uploads/downloads/dermatologic_letter_to_the_editor.pdf

Result:

“After 2 months, the implanted hairs in the recipient areas had fallen out and 4 months after the treatment, none of the implanted plucked anagen hairs resulted in hair growth.

From this study, we can conclude that it is not possible to use fresh plucked anagen hairs as hair transplantation grafts and that the connective tissue surrounding the epithelial structures are necessary for successful hair transplantation. The importance of this interaction between epithelial and dermal structures was also suggested by Jahoda et al.”

But why failed Dr. Gho in this study?

Reason:

“Hairs were plucked with depilation tweezers from the occipital area of the scalp and 200 anagen hairs were selected under a dissection microscope and put in a sterile petri dish with Ringers-lactate solution.”

Instead of using Ringers-lactate solution (or any kind of salt solution), Dr. Hitzig is using ACell – an Extracellular Matrix. And therefore such a “hair-shaft-plucking-procedure” could actually work consistent.


#3

Damn straight Iron Man…I thought that the pictures looked pretty good/legit. However, why are they not posting something more scientific? When Cotsarellis had his paper published in Nature (or Science?) back in 2007, I thought we would definitely be having a cure by now (2010). Now it seems that something is indeed here, but the pictures seem more amateurish than representative of a major breakthrough in regenerative medicine. It doesn’t have that scientific “polish” that I would have expected to find.

I do have to say that the scar recovery pictures look like a huge step for that particular part of scalp restoration, but I would like to have seen some actual hair count increases the same way Intercytex, Aderans, and Histogen has presented them.


#4

Wait … wait … wait …

So he can pluck hair (rather than removing the entire follicle), put said plucked hair in Acell, and it can be transplanted and grows in another area of the scalp with the properties of an entirely new follicle?

Am I understanding that correctly?

I agree, someone with a more scientific background needs to take a look at this, Hitzig seems like he may have something here, but he’s in over his head. Using it for scalp repair … who gives a crap … if you can auto-clone hairs like that, it opens the door to unlimited donor hair that even three of four people could pluck away at your scalp for a while and then have a ton of news transplanted the next day or whatever.


#5

» Wait … wait … wait …
»
» So he can pluck hair (rather than removing the entire follicle), put said [soak]
» plucked hair in Acell, and it can be transplanted and grows in another area
» of the scalp with the properties of an entirely new follicle?

Exactly!

Actually, I believe in Dr. Hitzig’s basic claims (growing hair FOLLICLES through just plucked hair SHAFTS) but at the moment it’s unclear …

A) … if the growing hair shafts at the recipient site have the same diameter after regeneration ( “cloning” ) of new hair FOLLICLES;

B) … if there’re any natural FU groupings problems and

C) … if the amount of hairs within a new growing (natural) FU grouping (if at all) is adequately predictable (hairline issues etc);


#6

» » Wait … wait … wait …
» »
» » So he can pluck hair (rather than removing the entire follicle), put
» said [soak]
» » plucked hair in Acell, and it can be transplanted and grows in another
» area
» » of the scalp with the properties of an entirely new follicle?
»
» Exactly!
»
» Actually, I believe in Dr. Hitzig’s basic claims (growing hair FOLLICLES
» through just plucked hair SHAFTS) but at the moment it’s unclear …
»
» A) … if the growing hair shafts at the recipient site have the same
» diameter
after regeneration ( “cloning” ) of new hair FOLLICLES;
»
» B) … if there’re any natural FU groupings problems and
»
» C) … if the amount of hairs within a new growing (natural) FU
» grouping
(if at all) is adequately predictable (hairline issues
» etc);

SONS OF BITC*HES

This would in case it works to at least 90% decrease the costs of a FUE and also it would drastically decrease the mount of time you need and also you could easily pluck 6000 or more.

And this would be really infinite amount of Hair


#7

» » » Wait … wait … wait …
» » »
» » » So he can pluck hair (rather than removing the entire follicle), put
» » said [soak]
» » » plucked hair in Acell, and it can be transplanted and grows in
» another
» » area
» » » of the scalp with the properties of an entirely new follicle?
» »
» » Exactly!
» »
» » Actually, I believe in Dr. Hitzig’s basic claims (growing hair
» FOLLICLES
» » through just plucked hair SHAFTS) but at the moment it’s unclear …
» »
» » A) … if the growing hair shafts at the recipient site have the
» same
» » diameter
after regeneration ( “cloning” ) of new hair FOLLICLES;
» »
» » B) … if there’re any natural FU groupings problems and
» »
» » C) … if the amount of hairs within a new growing (natural) FU
» » grouping
(if at all) is adequately predictable (hairline
» issues
» » etc);
»
» SONS OF BITC*HES

How did you know, that my mother was a bitc*h ? :expressionless:

Anyway …

» This would in case it works to at least 90% decrease the costs of a FUE
» and also it would drastically decrease the mount of time you need and also
» you could easily pluck 6000 or more.
»
» And this would be really infinite amount of Hair

… at least in THEORY - yes!


QUOTE Dr. G. Hitzig: “Like anyone else, I don’t want to give people sub-par results and I don’t want to let people down with false hopes. Nevertheless, I also don’t want to keep this [method] a secret if it can potentially help a large population of people. In choosing this path, I also chose to take personal responsibility for all of the criticism that manifests. I’m fine with that.”


#8

» » » » Wait … wait … wait …
» » » »
» » » » So he can pluck hair (rather than removing the entire follicle),
» put
» » » said [soak]
» » » » plucked hair in Acell, and it can be transplanted and grows in
» » another
» » » area
» » » » of the scalp with the properties of an entirely new follicle?
» » »
» » » Exactly!
» » »
» » » Actually, I believe in Dr. Hitzig’s basic claims (growing hair
» » FOLLICLES
» » » through just plucked hair SHAFTS) but at the moment it’s unclear …
» » »
» » » A) … if the growing hair shafts at the recipient site have the
» » same
» » » diameter
after regeneration ( “cloning” ) of new hair FOLLICLES;
» » »
» » » B) … if there’re any natural FU groupings problems and
» » »
» » » C) … if the amount of hairs within a new growing (natural) FU
» » » grouping
(if at all) is adequately predictable (hairline
» » issues
» » » etc);
» »
» » SONS OF BITCHES
»
» How did you know, that my mother was a bitc
h ? :expressionless:
»
» Anyway …
»
» » This would in case it works to at least 90% decrease the costs of a FUE
» » and also it would drastically decrease the mount of time you need and
» also
» » you could easily pluck 6000 or more.
» »
» » And this would be really infinite amount of Hair
»
» … at least in THEORY - yes!
»
» ----------------------
» QUOTE Dr. G. Hitzig: “Like anyone else, I don’t want to give people
» sub-par results and I don’t want to let people down with false hopes.
» Nevertheless, I also don’t want to keep this [method] a
» secret if it can potentially help a large population of people.

» In choosing this path, I also chose to take personal responsibility for all
» of the criticism that manifests. I’m fine with that.”

» ----------------------

I didnt mean you :wink:

Sons of Bitc*hes is often used when someone is really overwhelmed :slight_smile:


#9

has he not got anymore pics?


#10

» has he not got anymore pics?

Who from whom which pics ?
Dr. Hitzig from his patients/trailists ?


#11

Iron Man –

Maybe you can email him on the diameter/growth issue and just ask him.

He says the procedure is tedious … but isn’t any kind of hair transplant tedious? At least in this case he could probably hire a couple of beauticians to have 2-3 of them plucking hairs off your scalp at once to speed things up.

It would require less skill to harvest the hair than a normal hair transplant would.


#12

» Iron Man –
»
» Maybe you can email him on the diameter/growth issue and just ask him.
»
» He says the procedure is tedious … but isn’t any kind of hair transplant
» tedious? At least in this case he could probably hire a couple of
» beauticians to have 2-3 of them plucking hairs off your scalp at once to
» speed things up.
»
» It would require less skill to harvest the hair than a normal hair
» transplant would.

I just viewed all the photos at Dr. Hitzig’s website again - KUDOS !

ALL cases/pics look pretty damn. good and legit! And actually, they’re well (and sufficient) documented as well.

You’re right Swoosh - instead of discussing and speculating around in circles with one post & topics after the next, interested people (I’m one of them) should ACT …

And this is just one reason why I’m interested …

… because unfortunately these scars are my own (old) strip scars. :frowning:


#13

» Sons of Bitc*hes is often used when someone is really overwhelmed :slight_smile:

actually, it’s not.


#14

» » Iron Man –
» »
» » Maybe you can email him on the diameter/growth issue and just ask him.
» »
» » He says the procedure is tedious … but isn’t any kind of hair
» transplant
» » tedious? At least in this case he could probably hire a couple of
» » beauticians to have 2-3 of them plucking hairs off your scalp at once
» to
» » speed things up.
» »
» » It would require less skill to harvest the hair than a normal hair
» » transplant would.
»
»
» I just viewed all the photos at Dr. Hitzig’s website again - KUDOS !
»
» ALL cases/pics look pretty damn. good and legit! And actually, they’re
» well (and sufficient) documented as well.
»
» You’re right Swoosh - instead of discussing and speculating around in
» circles with one post & topics after the next, interested people (I’m one
» of them) should ACT …
»
» And this is just one reason why I’m interested …
»
»
»
» … because unfortunately these scars are my own (old) strip scars. :frowning:

I think you’d be a very good candidate for this Acell technology.


#15

Just a word of caution friends, Dr. Hitzig has a questionable reputation. See article here: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/03/23/2010-03-23_a_hairraising_tale_of_deceit.html


#16

» Just a word of caution friends, Dr. Hitzig has a questionable reputation.
» See article here:
» http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/03/23/2010-03-23_a_hairraising_tale_of_deceit.html

No. Actually, journalist who are publishing such “Bill said-Susan said-the judge said-somebody&anyone said-the dog said …” acticles are far more “questionable”:

Originally published Sunday, June 18th 2000

After a “Successful Hair-cloning breakthrough” article by Dr. Gary Hitzig & Dr. Jerry Cooley, January 2010, guess WHO is most interessted to scratch at somebodys reputation and to publish OLD and unverified articles/claims short after ?

BTW - I’m aware of most of the “Scatching at Dr. Hitzig’s reputation articles” as well as “Scatching at Dr. Gho’s reputation articles” as well as "“Scatching at Dr. Cole’s reputation articles” as well as “Scatching at Dr. Ilter’s reputation articles” … :wink:

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-69547-page-0-category-2-order-last_answer-descasc-DESC.html

… as well as “Scatching at Dr. Jerry Cooley’s reputation articles” ?
http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/consult-a-physician/doctors.asp?DrID=4

IF you’re worry about e.g. Dr. Hitzig’s reputation, ask Dr. Jerry Cooley - because HE has indeed a very good reputation in this field!


@crashul - You’re right … :wink:


#17

Is Dr. Cooley part of the auto-cloning thing? Hitzig has a questionable rep, but that’s been well known for a while. Cooley is more legit though supposedly.


#18

I don’t know if this was posted before, but if so…well, it couldn’t hurt one more time, because it so AWESOME

http://www.acell.com/files/Donor_Site_Repair.pdf


#19

» I don’t know if this was posted before, but if so…well, it couldn’t hurt
» one more time, because it so AWESOME
»
» http://www.acell.com/files/Donor_Site_Repair.pdf

This looks interesting, but what does “donor site remodeled” mean? Does it mean plucked hair regrew? Seems deliberately vague.


#20

Iron Man, I’m sorry that your scalp got to that condition. You should seriously reach out to Cooley and get that fixed.