Hairy hands/legs after cast removal

Stem cell; cell based hair therapy
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I’m surprised there is not much talk about this phenomena. I’m sure you either saw it with your own eyes or read about it. It is even described as something to expect upon cast removal.

So far I have not heard a good explanation why this happens. It obviously has to do something about bone fracture healing also effecting surrounding hair follicles but that’s very general.

Follica experiment guys wanna ring in? :slight_smile:

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» I’m surprised there is not much talk about this phenomena. I’m sure you
» either saw it with your own eyes or read about it.

not really

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» I’m surprised there is not much talk about this phenomena. I’m sure you
» either saw it with your own eyes or read about it. It is even described as
» something to expect upon cast removal.
»
» So far I have not heard a good explanation why this happens. It obviously
» has to do something about bone fracture healing also effecting surrounding
» hair follicles but that’s very general.
»
» Follica experiment guys wanna ring in? :slight_smile:

I have googled, and you are right:

Dark hair after cast has been taken off?
I had a cast on my hand up to my elbow. I had it removed and now I have dark thicker hair where the cast was. Has this happened to anyone? And how did you get rid of this problem!!??? I normally have thin blonde hair on my hands and arms. HELP!!!

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
When bones are trying to heal, the body sends and increase amount of blood supply to heal it. Therefore, everything in the surrounding area gets a boost, including hair follicles. It is actually quite common, and generally improves in a few weeks. You don’t have anything to worry about.

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so, when the bone heals, its over, and hairs will be back to the previous state. :frowning:

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» I’m surprised there is not much talk about this phenomena. I’m sure you
» either saw it with your own eyes or read about it. It is even described as
» something to expect upon cast removal.
»
» So far I have not heard a good explanation why this happens. It obviously
» has to do something about bone fracture healing also effecting surrounding
» hair follicles but that’s very general.
»
» Follica experiment guys wanna ring in? :slight_smile:

R U implying that someone should crack us over the head with a bat:-D

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» I had a cast on my hand up to my elbow. I had it removed and now I have
» dark thicker hair where the cast was. Has this happened to anyone? And how
» did you get rid of this problem!!??? I normally have thin blonde hair on my
» hands and arms. HELP!!!
»
» Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
» When bones are trying to heal, the body sends and increase amount of blood
» supply to heal it. Therefore, everything in the surrounding area gets a
» boost, including hair follicles. It is actually quite common, and generally
» improves in a few weeks. You don’t have anything to worry about.

What nonsense.

Most likely the skin on the arm turned very white from not being exposed to light.

And so the hairs will appear darker in contrast to the paper white skin.

The contrast can even be greater had the person a history of much time in the sun, which bleaches hair and further darkens skin. Covering the area with a cast would reverse the effects of sunlight: lighter skin, darker hair.

And if that doesn’t explain this phenomenon, then there’s something else afoot other than an increased blood supply because of the broken bone (sheesh).

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» » I had a cast on my hand up to my elbow. I had it removed and now I have
» » dark thicker hair where the cast was. Has this happened to anyone? And
» how
» » did you get rid of this problem!!??? I normally have thin blonde hair on
» my
» » hands and arms. HELP!!!
» »
» » Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
» » When bones are trying to heal, the body sends and increase amount of
» blood
» » supply to heal it. Therefore, everything in the surrounding area gets a
» » boost, including hair follicles. It is actually quite common, and
» generally
» » improves in a few weeks. You don’t have anything to worry about.
»
» What nonsense.
»
» Most likely the skin on the arm turned very white from not being exposed
» to light.
»
» And so the hairs will appear darker in contrast to the paper white skin.
»
» The contrast can even be greater had the person a history of much time in
» the sun, which bleaches hair and further darkens skin. Covering the area
» with a cast would reverse the effects of sunlight: lighter skin, darker
» hair.
»
» And if that doesn’t explain this phenomenon, then there’s something else
» afoot other than an increased blood supply because of the broken bone
» (sheesh).

No it’s not the skin contrast. Hairs itself are much longer and darker. I have seen this first hand many times.

I also don’t think it has anything to do with blood supply.

Like I said my guess would be it has something to do with bone healing and the associated release of ‘growth factors’ which also effect surrounding tissue, including hair.

That’s why I said Follica experiment guys on this forum should ring in with their thoughts :slight_smile:

http://www.gloshospitals.org.uk/ppi/leaflets/pdf/ghpi0033.pdf

Here is one link where it clearly states ‘more hairy’ is common after cast removal. Page 2.

Oh and I don’t want anyone breaking their skulls.

Peace :wink:

EDIT: oh and just to be clear. This happens to ladies too. That’s the only reason I noticed it. I have a few female friends who had very tiny blond almost invisible hairs on their hands. After cast was removed they were hairy like a man. It was scary.

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» So far I have not heard a good explanation why this happens.

I’ve never had a cast, but if casts cause any kind of friction/irritation, then this would explain the hair growth.

From Dr. Proctor:

The two best examples are in given in Kligman, A, History of Baldness From
Magic to Medicine, Clinics in Dermatology (1988),vol 6, #4, p 83.

  Dr. Kligman is the discoverer of Retin-A treatment for acne.   In his

paper, he lists two examples of chronic friction stimulating hair growth.
These are that retarded children who chew on thier forearms grow mats of hair
where they chew. In addition, before refrigerators, icemen would carry
blocks of ice on their shoulders over leather pads. They would develop big
mat of hair under the pads. There are also credible reports in the medical
literature about chronic masssage of scalps growing hair.

Dr. P

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so, back few years when i was obsessed with hairloss and depressed. at some point i started to hate my head shape, and in that anger that i cant do anything about it i very strongly pressed my skull on the sides in an attempt to make my head hurt.

anyway, that was in time when i was losing 300 hair daily. I was very obsessive about it and I pulled my hair constantly to count it. just one day after this, i lost almost none.

Since then I tried it few more times. What I would do is that i would pull all hair out (dense combing), then I waited a day and combed again count the hair.

Or alternatively, comb all hair out, do this skull crushing exercise (do not try this at home ppl!), waited one day and againcombed to count the hair. The decrease of hair fall is VERY noticeable.

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» so, back few years when i was obsessed with hairloss and depressed. at some
» point i started to hate my head shape, and in that anger that i cant do
» anything about it i very strongly pressed my skull on the sides in an
» attempt to make my head hurt.
»
» anyway, that was in time when i was losing 300 hair daily. I was very
» obsessive about it and I pulled my hair constantly to count it. just one
» day after this, i lost almost none.
»
» Since then I tried it few more times. What I would do is that i would pull
» all hair out (dense combing), then I waited a day and combed again count
» the hair.
»
» Or alternatively, comb all hair out, do this skull crushing exercise (do
» not try this at home ppl!), waited one day and againcombed to count the
» hair. The decrease of hair fall is VERY noticeable.

the only reason why i dont do it is the concern of damaging my skull rly or damaging my brain or head or having this to cause migrains or something like that.

I do not recommend you to try it. i used strong force, both knees crushing my head from the sides with full strength. definately do not even consider trying this if you are too muscular :slight_smile: I’m not.

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» » » I had a cast on my hand up to my elbow. I had it removed and now I
» have
» » » dark thicker hair where the cast was. Has this happened to anyone?
» And
» » how
» » » did you get rid of this problem!!??? I normally have thin blonde hair
» on
» » my
» » » hands and arms. HELP!!!
» » »
» » » Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
» » » When bones are trying to heal, the body sends and increase amount of
» » blood
» » » supply to heal it. Therefore, everything in the surrounding area gets
» a
» » » boost, including hair follicles. It is actually quite common, and
» » generally
» » » improves in a few weeks. You don’t have anything to worry about.
» »
» » What nonsense.
» »
» » Most likely the skin on the arm turned very white from not being
» exposed
» » to light.
» »
» » And so the hairs will appear darker in contrast to the paper white
» skin.
» »
» » The contrast can even be greater had the person a history of much time
» in
» » the sun, which bleaches hair and further darkens skin. Covering the
» area
» » with a cast would reverse the effects of sunlight: lighter skin, darker
» » hair.
» »
» » And if that doesn’t explain this phenomenon, then there’s something
» else
» » afoot other than an increased blood supply because of the broken bone
» » (sheesh).
»
»
» No it’s not the skin contrast. Hairs itself are much longer and darker. I
» have seen this first hand many times.
»
» I also don’t think it has anything to do with blood supply.
»
» Like I said my guess would be it has something to do with bone healing and
» the associated release of ‘growth factors’ which also effect surrounding
» tissue, including hair.
»
» That’s why I said Follica experiment guys on this forum should ring in
» with their thoughts :slight_smile:
»
» http://www.gloshospitals.org.uk/ppi/leaflets/pdf/ghpi0033.pdf
»
» Here is one link where it clearly states ‘more hairy’ is common after cast
» removal. Page 2.
»
» Oh and I don’t want anyone breaking their skulls.
»
» Peace :wink:
»
» EDIT: oh and just to be clear. This happens to ladies too. That’s the only
» reason I noticed it. I have a few female friends who had very tiny blond
» almost invisible hairs on their hands. After cast was removed they were
» hairy like a man. It was scary.

Hairs may bleach in the presence of oxygen, which is in less supply under a cast. In addition, it must be very humid under the cast, which may cause the hair follicles to absorb water and to swell.

Finally, with no rubbing of any kind to dislodge dead hairs, the arm may appear to have more hair than normal when the cast is removed.

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both of you may have good points.
Maybe it has to do with growth factors from bone healing, or maybe hairs grow longer because of the new tight environment. Maybe the pressure exerted by the cast upon the hairs, make them grow longer. An experiment: to place a cast in a non- broken arm, and see if you get a hairy arm.

Recently I saw a person’s cast removed. I think the cast was in place for 3 months… there was a lot of dead skin accumulated. It was incredible. Maybe hair also accumulates without shedding.

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Abrading the skin can stimulate hair growth noticeably. That’s the bottom line. Multiple real-world examplies seem to bear this out.

Is it significant regrowth, consistently/repeatably happening, with a scietifically-understood method of action? No.

But all kinds of expensive MPB products on the market are being sold with less demonstrated proof than abrasion already has going for it. And abrasion has hardly ever seen much real reasearch on it for that matter.

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» » so, back few years when i was obsessed with hairloss and depressed. at
» some
» » point i started to hate my head shape, and in that anger that i cant do
» » anything about it i very strongly pressed my skull on the sides in an
» » attempt to make my head hurt.
» »
» » anyway, that was in time when i was losing 300 hair daily. I was very
» » obsessive about it and I pulled my hair constantly to count it. just
» one
» » day after this, i lost almost none.
» »
» » Since then I tried it few more times. What I would do is that i would
» pull
» » all hair out (dense combing), then I waited a day and combed again
» count
» » the hair.
» »
» » Or alternatively, comb all hair out, do this skull crushing exercise
» (do
» » not try this at home ppl!), waited one day and againcombed to count the
» » hair. The decrease of hair fall is VERY noticeable.
»
» the only reason why i dont do it is the concern of damaging my skull rly
» or damaging my brain or head or having this to cause migrains or something
» like that.
»
» I do not recommend you to try it. i used strong force, both knees crushing
» my head from the sides with full strength. definately do not even consider
» trying this if you are too muscular :slight_smile: I’m not.

Sorry dude, but what you said isn’t controversial.
It’s insane.

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» both of you may have good points.
» Maybe it has to do with growth factors from bone healing, or maybe hairs
» grow longer because of the new tight environment. Maybe the pressure
» exerted by the cast upon the hairs, make them grow longer. An experiment:
» to place a cast in a non- broken arm, and see if you get a hairy arm.
»
» Recently I saw a person’s cast removed. I think the cast was in place for
» 3 months… there was a lot of dead skin accumulated. It was incredible.
» Maybe hair also accumulates without shedding.

I just had another thought: what if there is some chemical in the cast material that is stimulating hair growth?

The chemcial might get into the skin by off-gassing, by rubbing, or by being dissovled in sweat.

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» Sorry dude, but what you said isn’t controversial.
» It’s insane.

It certainly is. More insane thing is though that it actually works. I have tried it like 5 times. It worked every single time.

All in all I think that bones and hairgrowth can have some connection.

All in all though it may be the other way around as well The fact that it worked NEXT day to decrease the shedding, imho opens up a possibility that it merely stops hairgrowth so no new hair enters anagen and thus does not push the old hair out.

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hahaha, yes, Ahab, maybe there is cocaine dissolved in the cast to fool the custom officers.

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» hahaha, yes, Ahab, maybe there is cocaine dissolved in the cast to fool the
» custom officers.

its not chemicals, its the bone healing or something to do with the bones.

there was this ISH101 … that was originaly something with bones as well.

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» so, back few years when i was obsessed with hairloss and depressed. at some
» point i started to hate my head shape, and in that anger that i cant do
» anything about it i very strongly pressed my skull on the sides in an
» attempt to make my head hurt.
»
» anyway, that was in time when i was losing 300 hair daily. I was very
» obsessive about it and I pulled my hair constantly to count it. just one
» day after this, i lost almost none.
»
» Since then I tried it few more times. What I would do is that i would pull
» all hair out (dense combing), then I waited a day and combed again count
» the hair.
»
» Or alternatively, comb all hair out, do this skull crushing exercise (do
» not try this at home ppl!), waited one day and againcombed to count the
» hair. The decrease of hair fall is VERY noticeable.

LOL dude your retarded, no offense.

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» so, back few years when i was obsessed with hairloss and depressed. at some
» point i started to hate my head shape, and in that anger that i cant do
» anything about it i very strongly pressed my skull on the sides in an
» attempt to make my head hurt.
»
» anyway, that was in time when i was losing 300 hair daily. I was very
» obsessive about it and I pulled my hair constantly to count it. just one
» day after this, i lost almost none.
»
» Since then I tried it few more times. What I would do is that i would pull
» all hair out (dense combing), then I waited a day and combed again count
» the hair.
»
» Or alternatively, comb all hair out, do this skull crushing exercise (do
» not try this at home ppl!), waited one day and againcombed to count the
» hair. The decrease of hair fall is VERY noticeable.

MEGA BUMP

This guy experienced similar thing!!!

04/05/2009 07:01 AM

live1
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im thinning in a 2a pattern ,im 34 have been thinning for 10 years,so very slowly ,also there is no history of hairloss on either side of my family ,im also mixed white and black so have think curly hair.in the thinning area at the front if i gently tug the hair i could get 20 hairs out every time since i first noticed loss,

the thing now is i had an accident a few days ago and fractured my skull and grazed the balding area,now the grazed area is healing ,if i do the pull test i cant even get 1 hair out,also i havent washed my hair for a while as hospital said dont,but washed it 2day not 1 hair dropped .is it possible i had te and the thinning has stopped ,could lost hair grow back?

its weird ,has any 1 got any ideas