Hair Transplant donor transection biopsy photo

Hair Transplant
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» » 2) Is it normal for a patiant to lose transplanted hairs 6 months
» post
» » op? If so, are they guaranteed to grow back? And why does this loss
» occur?
» » It happened to someone on another forum, but his thred vanished and
» » most likely banned for mentioning his surgeon.
» »
»
»
» Transplanted hairs or grafts are supposed to fall, I don’t see why that is
» a problem.

That may be a problem AT 6 MONTH MARK.

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» Dr. Woods, sorry for veering off topic for just a moment but I’ve always
» wanted to ask a HT surgeon some questions directly rather than hearing it
» from third parties. I also think I would get straight forward and honest
» answers from you without any agendas or BS as some surgeons throw out
» there.
»
»
» 1) At what point post-op can we “stop” expecting “new” hairs to
» sprout/grow (Not Thicken!)? I get mixed reviews ranging from 5months to
» 11months post-op.
» I know quite a few people in person that have empty spots post-op at 6
» months and others at 10 months post op; relatively in the hairline regions.
» The only answer they get is “wait until 12 months”.
»
» 2) Is it normal for a patiant to lose transplanted hairs 6 months post
» op? If so, are they guaranteed to grow back? And why does this loss occur?
» It happened to someone on another forum, but his thred vanished and
» most likely banned for mentioning his surgeon.
»
» Thanks being a part of this forum! I hope most of us don’t take it for
» granted.

It is a bell curve, with the centre being approx 6 months when the majority of hair would have sprouted

Some people keep most of their hair, with no shedding, from day one, but they are the minority at the beginning thin wedge of the curve

Some people keep sprouting beyond 6 months, but as each month goes by, it is less likely

I don’t think much will happen after 12 months, and certainly, the vast majority would have come through well before that.

If a transplanted hair is established, and then sheds at 6 months, it may be part of the cycle, but the majority will stay. They don’t all shed at once

If that is the story, I doubt they were there in the first place , and someone was counting their chickens before they hatched, possibly because of wishfull thinking.
Possibly to please the doctor who requested some good press before anything actually happened

And that does happen

Dr Ray Woods

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» » Dr. Woods, sorry for veering off topic for just a moment but I’ve always
» » wanted to ask a HT surgeon some questions directly rather than hearing
» it
» » from third parties. I also think I would get straight forward and
» honest
» » answers from you without any agendas or BS as some surgeons throw out
» » there.
» »
» »
» » 1) At what point post-op can we “stop” expecting “new” hairs to
» » sprout/grow (Not Thicken!)? I get mixed reviews ranging from 5months to
» » 11months post-op.
» » I know quite a few people in person that have empty spots post-op at 6
» » months and others at 10 months post op; relatively in the hairline
» regions.
» » The only answer they get is “wait until 12 months”.
» »
» » 2) Is it normal for a patiant to lose transplanted hairs 6 months
» post
» » op? If so, are they guaranteed to grow back? And why does this loss
» occur?
» » It happened to someone on another forum, but his thred vanished and
» » most likely banned for mentioning his surgeon.
» »
» » Thanks being a part of this forum! I hope most of us don’t take it for
» » granted.
»
» It is a bell curve, with the centre being approx 6 months when the
» majority of hair would have sprouted
»
» Some people keep most of their hair, with no shedding, from day one, but
» they are the minority at the beginning thin wedge of the curve
»
» Some people keep sprouting beyond 6 months, but as each month goes by, it
» is less likely
»
» I don’t think much will happen after 12 months, and certainly, the vast
» majority would have come through well before that.
»
» If a transplanted hair is established, and then sheds at 6 months, it may
» be part of the cycle, but the majority will stay. They don’t all shed at
» once
»
» If that is the story, I doubt they were there in the first place , and
» someone was counting their chickens before they hatched, possibly because
» of wishfull thinking.
» Possibly to please the doctor who requested some good press before
» anything actually happened
»
» And that does happen
»
» Dr Ray Woods

Thanks-a-million

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Back in 2001. I wondered about any benefits of suction

I bought an ASPI JET 6000 portable dental variable suction device, attached tubing etc, inserted a mesh to capture sucked up follicles and began limited trials

I remember it was timetested who we did the first trials on

As I was testing this thing, Dr Campbell was reading the inhouse ISHRS magazine. Some articles were so ridiculous it provided some comic relief.

Rassman and Bernstein came up with “follicular unit transplant” and started calling it FUT

We thought it was hillarious. I spend months in the early 90’s wondering if I should put the letters F and U together. I thought it would be too rude . Many good Christians would not swear, but some happily would say “FU”

Hense FsUE
…follicular “single” unit Extraction

In a fit of laughter Timetested said, in his broad Boston accent…“so, ya gonna call this thing a FUT sucker”

We all laughed so hard surgery was ceased for several hours.

However, the point is this.

  1. accuracy was decreased and transection went up considerably.

2 Sucked up follicles were blow tried…or suck dried

Next time you are in the chair, ask for one follicle to be placed out of sollution and see how long it lasts.

At most a few minutes, then you can snap it in two.

Follicles cannot withstand dessication.

And with suction, it was our experience, that follicles were turbo dessicated.

Every few seconds i had to stop, pull the silly thing apart, and save the follicle. I tried sucking up saline to keep the follicles moist, but the other disadvantages meant that my ASPI JET 6000 is sitting in my garage now for many years.

Now maybe this new automated sucking device is better. But in my opinion…well you can guess my opinion

Dr Ray Woods

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Dr. Woods, I have to open and read this post just because of the subject line. I can’t believe you did that.

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» Dr. Woods, I have to open and read this post just because of the subject
» line. I can’t believe you did that.

Did what? What are you talking about ?

Some major corporation thought that by introducing a SUCTION element, they have a major marketing advantage.

If you are inferring that I said something “dirty”

Then listen to me son,

What is dirty filthy degrading and medically pornographic is what the ESTABLISHMENT has allowed to happen to countless thousands of young men who have had their lives and wealth destroyed by this FU business.

Dr Ray Woods

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» » You know if you really want low transection rate, strip is the way go
» go.
» » FUE means every single follicular unit will be vulnerable to
» transection.
» » There is no such problem with strip because the knife only runs through
» the
» » perimeter of the skin that is being taken out.
»
» And you are brainwashed , stupid or a shill for some corporation
»
» or maybe you believe it in all honesty
»
» we will never know. Because you are an anonymous nobody .
»
» but you all know where i stand. And I disagree
»
» What you said is a bloody lie.
»
» Feel free to argue the issue
»
» Dr Woods

Dr Woods, two questions for you,

  1. The only way to max out the # of grafts for a patient is to do strip followed by fue, true or false?

  2. You can’t deny this because you openly admitted that FUE is blind harvesting. Since the doctor can’t see how each follicle is aligned with one another underneath the skin, every donor follicle will be vulnerable to transection. There is no such problem with strip because transection only happens along the perimeter of the donor area. Once the donor strip is taken out, the follicles can be dissected using microscope with “direct vision”. This is a fact.

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» Dr Woods, two questions for you,
»
» 1) The only way to max out the # of grafts for a patient is to do strip
» followed by fue, true or false?
»
» 2) You can’t deny this because you openly admitted that FUE is blind
» harvesting. Since the doctor can’t see how each follicle is aligned with
» one another underneath the skin, every donor follicle will be vulnerable to
» transection. There is no such problem with strip because transection only
» happens along the perimeter of the donor area. Once the donor strip is
» taken out, the follicles can be dissected using microscope with “direct
» vision”. This is a fact.

First, it depends upon who is doing the surgery, but I can only speak for myself , offer my opinion and stand by my record, and thus the answer is FALSE.

Second, FUE IS BLIND HARVESTING.

but, in STRIP DISSECTION, you can see there are criss crossed follicles everywhere.
Try running a vertical blade through that buddy.

So in strip dissection, you can see how much collateral damage you must do , but only to a point.

As I have stated, in strip you see more, but you cant see everything and damage is inevitable

Bottom line is GOOD FUE will always give more grafts and less damage than strip

But good strip is better than bad FUE.

who is doing the surgery, either way is paramount

Dr Ray Woods

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» » Dr Woods, two questions for you,
» »
» » 1) The only way to max out the # of grafts for a patient is to do strip
» » followed by fue, true or false?
» »
» » 2) You can’t deny this because you openly admitted that FUE is blind
» » harvesting. Since the doctor can’t see how each follicle is aligned
» with
» » one another underneath the skin, every donor follicle will be vulnerable
» to
» » transection. There is no such problem with strip because transection
» only
» » happens along the perimeter of the donor area. Once the donor strip is
» » taken out, the follicles can be dissected using microscope with “direct
» » vision”. This is a fact.
»
» First, it depends upon who is doing the surgery, but I can only speak for
» myself , offer my opinion and stand by my record, and thus the answer is
» FALSE.
»
» Second, FUE IS BLIND HARVESTING.
»
» but, in STRIP DISSECTION, you can see there are criss crossed follicles
» everywhere.
» Try running a vertical blade through that buddy.
»
» So in strip dissection, you can see how much collateral damage you must do
» , but only to a point.
»
» As I have stated, in strip you see more, but you cant see everything and
» damage is inevitable
»
» Bottom line is GOOD FUE will always give more grafts and less damage than
» strip
»
» But good strip is better than bad FUE.
»
» who is doing the surgery, either way is paramount
»
» Dr Ray Woods

This is the best thread ever, lots of really good information. Thank you Dr. Woods for posting.