Good results (in my opinion)

Stem cell; cell based hair therapy
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I think the results of the report are positive…This trial is to show effacacy and I think they did that…look at the results from the first cohort to the second…100% growth in the second…maybe at different rates, but this is a trail…Do we know if all members of the second cohort received the same treatment ??? (NO, WE DONT)…They seem to be improving on their protocol…the goal of the second trail…and remember that Valveta was fast-tracked to commercialization…and they want to do the same here as well if possible…

Face it…most of us wanted to wake up and see:

" ICX-TRC is a great success, with all trialists growing full heads of hair (with accompaning Elvis like regrowth from NW7 pics)…it is due to be released late this year or early 2008"

anything less was going to be a disappointment…and then Trick95 started the thread on a Negative “your gonna be disappointed” blahblahblah “two to three (realistic) to TEN (??? :surprised: ) years” and everybody just followed…and some comparing this to minoxidil…has anybody ever grown a “real” hair back on Minox ??? It may help keep vellus hairs or hairs that havent fallen out yet not miniturize…but get real…ICX-TRC is no minox…it is a completely different mechanism…one “blocks” DHT from already minaturizing follicles and the other rejuvinates follicles with DHT resistant DNA or reforms follicles…

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» I think the results of the report are positive…This trial is to show
» effacacy and I think they did that…look at the results from the first
» cohort to the second…100% growth in the second…maybe at different
» rates, but this is a trail…Do we know if all members of the second
» cohort received the same treatment ??? (NO, WE DONT)…They seem to be
» improving on their protocol…the goal of the second trail…and
» remember that Valveta was fast-tracked to commercialization…and they
» want to do the same here as well if possible…
»
» Face it…most of us wanted to wake up and see:
»
» " ICX-TRC is a great success, with all trialists growing full heads of
» hair (with accompaning Elvis like regrowth from NW7 pics)…it is due to
» be released late this year or early 2008"
»
» anything less was going to be a disappointment…and then Trick95
» started the thread on a Negative “your gonna be disappointed” blahblahblah
» “two to three (realistic) to TEN (??? :surprised: ) years” and everybody
» just followed…and some comparing this to minoxidil…has anybody
» ever grown a “real” hair back on Minox ??? It may help keep vellus hairs
» or hairs that havent fallen out yet not miniturize…but get
» real…ICX-TRC is no minox…it is a completely different
» mechanism…one “blocks” DHT from already minaturizing follicles and the
» other rejuvinates follicles with DHT resistant DNA or reforms
» follicles…

minox is not a DHT blocker, propecia is

minox is a heart medication, a vaso dilator

you guys on the HM board should not comment on other than HM

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» I think the results of the report are positive…This trial is to show
» effacacy and I think they did that…look at the results from the first
» cohort to the second…100% growth in the second…maybe at different
» rates, but this is a trail…Do we know if all members of the second
» cohort received the same treatment ??? (NO, WE DONT)…They seem to be
» improving on their protocol…the goal of the second trail…and
» remember that Valveta was fast-tracked to commercialization…and they
» want to do the same here as well if possible…
»
» Face it…most of us wanted to wake up and see:
»
» " ICX-TRC is a great success, with all trialists growing full heads of
» hair (with accompaning Elvis like regrowth from NW7 pics)…it is due to
» be released late this year or early 2008"
»
» anything less was going to be a disappointment…and then Trick95
» started the thread on a Negative “your gonna be disappointed” blahblahblah
» “two to three (realistic) to TEN (??? :surprised: ) years” and everybody
» just followed…and some comparing this to minoxidil…has anybody
» ever grown a “real” hair back on Minox ??? It may help keep vellus hairs
» or hairs that havent fallen out yet not miniturize…but get
» real…ICX-TRC is no minox…it is a completely different
» mechanism…one “blocks” DHT from already minaturizing follicles and the
» other rejuvinates follicles with DHT resistant DNA or reforms
» follicles…

Raptor I totally agree.I still believe ICX-TRC will happen.I think most on this board expected more indepth information,which obviously we was not going to get…

One they are only on trial 2 which is the first trial in which the treatment is given to patients with the condition for which it is believed it will have some beneficial effect. Positive efficacy is often referred to as “clinical proof of concept”. This phase should conclude with evidence of whether the treatment works, which patient population to target and what is the optimal dose to strike a balance between beneficial effect and side effects.WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE LONGER - SOMETIME 2008 - HOPEFULLY!

I’m just glad I never got on trial 2 now.Don’t get me wrong if everything goes alright,I’ll be on phone trying to get on trial 3 which is for a “dry run” of the final use of the treatment in the market.

In the meantime I think I look alright with a shaven head.Funny really I wanted to look a bad ass when I was younger,not now.Thats what a shaven look as done for me - funny old world isn’t it!

ROLL ON ICX-TRC

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Minox is a waste of time…thats all I know…probably similar to your waste of time routine

5

» Minox is a waste of time…that all I know…probably similar to
» your waste of time routine

i guess that you are confirming your ignorance about minox by not arguing with my point that it is not a DHT blocker…

gee and you guys on the HM board have what for your regimen? nothing, thats what
ops wait, your regimen is going bald fast and hoping HM comes out ASAP
no wonder you dont post your regimen

ops i see guys posting …ICX guy
thats their regimen

LOL
is ICX helping you with your current problem?
at least my regimen works:-D :smiley:

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» » I think the results of the report are positive…This trial is to show
» » effacacy and I think they did that…look at the results from the
» first
» » cohort to the second…100% growth in the second…maybe at
» different
» » rates, but this is a trail…Do we know if all members of the second
» » cohort received the same treatment ??? (NO, WE DONT)…They seem to be
» » improving on their protocol…the goal of the second trail…and
» » remember that Valveta was fast-tracked to commercialization…and they
» » want to do the same here as well if possible…
» »
» » Face it…most of us wanted to wake up and see:
» »
» » " ICX-TRC is a great success, with all trialists growing full heads of
» » hair (with accompaning Elvis like regrowth from NW7 pics)…it is due
» to
» » be released late this year or early 2008"
» »
» » anything less was going to be a disappointment…and then Trick95
» » started the thread on a Negative “your gonna be disappointed”
» blahblahblah
» » “two to three (realistic) to TEN (??? :surprised: ) years” and
» everybody
» » just followed…and some comparing this to minoxidil…has anybody
» » ever grown a “real” hair back on Minox ??? It may help keep vellus
» hairs
» » or hairs that havent fallen out yet not miniturize…but get
» » real…ICX-TRC is no minox…it is a completely different
» » mechanism…one “blocks” DHT from already minaturizing follicles and
» the
» » other rejuvinates follicles with DHT resistant DNA or reforms
» » follicles…
»
» Raptor I totally agree.I still believe ICX-TRC will happen.I think most on
» this board expected more indepth information,which obviously we was not
» going to get…
»
» One they are only on trial 2 which is the first trial in which the
» treatment is given to patients with the condition for which it is believed
» it will have some beneficial effect. Positive efficacy is often referred
» to as “clinical proof of concept”. This phase should conclude with
» evidence of whether the treatment works, which patient population to
» target and what is the optimal dose to strike a balance between beneficial
» effect and side effects.WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE LONGER - SOMETIME
» 2008 - HOPEFULLY!
»
» I’m just glad I never got on trial 2 now.Don’t get me wrong if everything
» goes alright,I’ll be on phone trying to get on trial 3 which is for a “dry
» run” of the final use of the treatment in the market.
»
» In the meantime I think I look alright with a shaven head.Funny really I
» wanted to look a bad ass when I was younger,not now.Thats what a shaven
» look as done for me - funny old world isn’t it!
»
» ROLL ON ICX-TRC

keep hoping
hope you dont turn 70 before ICX comes out with it

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» keep hoping
» hope you dont turn 70 before ICX comes out with it

Oh HanginInThere your not trying to piss me off are you,as its not working.
I’m only on this board at the moment when I’m in my office doing paperwork,whats your excuse - to afraid to go out without that hat on,perhaps.

May I ask how old you are,as you sound like a twisted old miserable git!

GO ON GET THE LAST WORD IN

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» » keep hoping
» » hope you dont turn 70 before ICX comes out with it
»
» Oh HanginInThere your not trying to piss me off are you,as its not
» working.
» I’m only on this board at the moment when I’m in my office doing
» paperwork,whats your excuse - to afraid to go out without that hat
» on,perhaps.
»
» May I ask how old you are,as you sound like a twisted old miserable git!
»
» GO ON GET THE LAST WORD IN

miserable because I dont believe that ICX is goign to come up with HM?

No, just realistic, and I dont blindly follow one company as if it were the savior to bald men everywhere, like you guys do

I call you guys delusional, gullible, and need a reality check,
get used to that description, you will hear it often in your life

hey if some guy wanted you to invest in some company, and you had no proof that their product worked , would you do it? I think I know the answer to that

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» No, just realistic, and I dont blindly follow one company as if it were
» the savior to bald men everywhere, like you guys do
»
» I call you guys delusional, gullible, and need a reality check,
» get used to that description, you will hear it often in your life
»
» hey if some guy wanted you to invest in some company, and you had no proof
» that their product worked , would you do it? I think I know the answer to
» that

Yes I agree.I actually believe there would be a lot of money out there,as yes there is a lot of gullible people out there - I’m in sales - thats just what I rely on - GULLIBLE PEOPLE MOSTLY

I do not believe everyone on the HM board is gullible.I believe most / some people live with some hope,thats all…Give over Hanginthere - I’ve actually had a long conversation with a member of staff from the Farjo Clinic - I believe it will happen one day,YES I HOPE IT WILL BE SOON

Take a look at plastic surgery,hair transplant surgery,medical surgery over the last 10 - 20 years we’ve come on a long way

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» » No, just realistic, and I dont blindly follow one company as if it were
» » the savior to bald men everywhere, like you guys do
» »
» » I call you guys delusional, gullible, and need a reality check,
» » get used to that description, you will hear it often in your life
» »
» » hey if some guy wanted you to invest in some company, and you had no
» proof
» » that their product worked , would you do it? I think I know the answer
» to
» » that
»
» Yes I agree.I actually believe there would be a lot of money out there,as
» yes there is a lot of gullible people out there - I’m in sales - thats
» just what I rely on - GULLIBLE PEOPLE MOSTLY
»
» I do not believe everyone on the HM board is gullible.I believe most /
» some people live with some hope,thats all…Give over Hanginthere - I’ve
» actually had a long conversation with a member of staff from the Farjo
» Clinic - I believe it will happen one day,YES I HOPE IT WILL BE SOON
»
» Take a look at plastic surgery,hair transplant surgery,medical surgery
» over the last 10 - 20 years we’ve come on a long way

hair transplants were available 30 yrs ago and are just now getting to the point that they produce great results

HM is not even available, Will it be someday? perhaps, but it will be a long time coming , there may be something else not even discovered yet that will beat it

too bad we live in the age where baldness happens and we cant treat it successfully

however there are much worse things, cancer, heart attacks etc so dont worry too much about your hair

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» » » No, just realistic, and I dont blindly follow one company as if it
» were
» » » the savior to bald men everywhere, like you guys do
» » »
» » » I call you guys delusional, gullible, and need a reality check,
» » » get used to that description, you will hear it often in your life
» » »
» » » hey if some guy wanted you to invest in some company, and you had no
» » proof
» » » that their product worked , would you do it? I think I know the
» answer
» » to
» » » that
» »
» » Yes I agree.I actually believe there would be a lot of money out
» there,as
» » yes there is a lot of gullible people out there - I’m in sales - thats
» » just what I rely on - GULLIBLE PEOPLE MOSTLY
» »
» » I do not believe everyone on the HM board is gullible.I believe most /
» » some people live with some hope,thats all…Give over Hanginthere -
» I’ve
» » actually had a long conversation with a member of staff from the Farjo
» » Clinic - I believe it will happen one day,YES I HOPE IT WILL BE SOON
» »
» » Take a look at plastic surgery,hair transplant surgery,medical surgery
» » over the last 10 - 20 years we’ve come on a long way
»
» hair transplants were available 30 yrs ago and are just now getting to the
» point that they produce great results
»
» HM is not even available, Will it be someday? perhaps, but it will be a
» long time coming , there may be something else not even discovered yet
» that will beat it
»
» too bad we live in the age where baldness happens and we cant treat it
» successfully
»
» however there are much worse things, cancer, heart attacks etc so dont
» worry too much about your hair

I totally agree - I’m now off downstairs to watch some TV

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» » » keep hoping
» » » hope you dont turn 70 before ICX comes out with it
» »
» » Oh HanginInThere your not trying to piss me off are you,as its not
» » working.
» » I’m only on this board at the moment when I’m in my office doing
» » paperwork,whats your excuse - to afraid to go out without that hat
» » on,perhaps.
» »
» » May I ask how old you are,as you sound like a twisted old miserable
» git!
» »
» » GO ON GET THE LAST WORD IN
»
» miserable because I dont believe that ICX is goign to come up with HM?
»
» No, just realistic, and I dont blindly follow one company as if it were
» the savior to bald men everywhere, like you guys do
»
» I call you guys delusional, gullible, and need a reality check,
» get used to that description, you will hear it often in your life
»
» hey if some guy wanted you to invest in some company, and you had no proof
» that their product worked , would you do it? I think I know the answer to
» that

So what are you saying? Is ICX-TRC a total hoax that hasn’t grown a single viable hair on anybody’s head in trials I and II?

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» » » » keep hoping
» » » » hope you dont turn 70 before ICX comes out with it
» » »
» » » Oh HanginInThere your not trying to piss me off are you,as its not
» » » working.
» » » I’m only on this board at the moment when I’m in my office doing
» » » paperwork,whats your excuse - to afraid to go out without that hat
» » » on,perhaps.
» » »
» » » May I ask how old you are,as you sound like a twisted old miserable
» » git!
» » »
» » » GO ON GET THE LAST WORD IN
» »
» » miserable because I dont believe that ICX is goign to come up with HM?
» »
» » No, just realistic, and I dont blindly follow one company as if it were
» » the savior to bald men everywhere, like you guys do
» »
» » I call you guys delusional, gullible, and need a reality check,
» » get used to that description, you will hear it often in your life
» »
» » hey if some guy wanted you to invest in some company, and you had no
» proof
» » that their product worked , would you do it? I think I know the answer
» to
» » that
»
» So what are you saying? Is ICX-TRC a total hoax that hasn’t grown a
» single viable hair on anybody’s head in trials I and II?

it may have grown some hairs but so what, I regrow hair all the time,
rogaine and propecia regrow hairs all the time, nizoral cream, hell look at gc1961 regrowth pics, regrowing hair is not a first in medical science you guys act like its a miracle from god or something, it is very common

the question is , how much hair did they regrow, how many hairs? they wont say
how many terminal hairs? well if they wont say how many hairs they certainly cant be telling the terminal hair count

unless they regrow a hell of a lot of terminal hairs, and the cost is reasonable, then what would make HM worth waiting for? it is too early to tell if even the hairs they have regrown will even last any longer than regrowth with rogaine, propecia etc etc. yet you guys act like this is akin to a cure for baldness

its way too soon to make any judgements, but yet you guys jump to judgements already and if the data is not forthcoming, you put your own spin on ICX lame dribbled out results, to make it seem like it is something you want it to be

I see very few board members questioning the accuracy of ICX results, or even the potential marketablility or usefulness of HM in general

you guys see HM through rose colored glasses, you live in your own little world

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First off, ICX-TRC has already shown itself to be vastly superior at growing new hair compared to Minoxidil and Propecia. So I think the skeptics can start crying on that account. Why should they cry? Because these are guys that love being miserable; thus, they constantly come around attempting to spread their misery upon others. I mean come on, we have a home-remedy pusher as the head anti-HM cheerleader who refuses to admit that HM has ALREADY shown itself to be a more effective treatment than the home-brew regimine he pushes in the signature of each and every one of his posts. When you factor in the fact that millions of dollars are being spent funding well-organized teams of world-class scientists to study the HM problem, and roughly $0 is being spent furthering the research of the home-brew method, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see which avenue is the better bet.

Second, I would put the odds of the 2nd cohort receiving a different treatment as extremely high. Why, because ICX is not stupid enough to waste money by duplicating the exact original study. IOW, if they wanted more data, it would have been cheaper, faster, and easier to inject 10 in the first study as opposed to 5. Since we know that this is a rolling trial, we know that the 2nd batch recieved an altered protocol. The fact that 100% of the trialists responded to the 2nd protocol is good news. The bad news is that ICX has now reached a consistency that is similar to the point where Dr. Gho reached but could never overcome. So we are at a point where ICX’ additional funding, team size, and prior experience in developing bleeding edge TE products could start to make a difference.

However, with ICX’ current consistency numbers, the treatment is marketable at this point in time. As long as patients are informed of the odds of their treatment outcome, they will buy this procedure. Remember, we are talking desperate bald people here that will try ANYTHING in an attempt to obtain relief from this ailment. So from here forward, ICX will continue its stage II rolling trial in an attempt to further improve the consistency. Then they will move to phase III where they will begin to treat actual patient cases (full head restorations). Then they will market the product (most likely as an adjunct to HT). This process will require several more years to complete.

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» First off, ICX-TRC has already shown itself to be vastly superior at
» growing new hair compared to Minoxidil and Propecia. So I think the
» skeptics can start crying on that account. Why should they cry? Because
» these are guys that love being miserable; thus, they constantly come
» around attempting to spread their misery upon others. I mean come on, we
» have a home-remedy pusher as the head anti-HM cheerleader who refuses to
» admit that HM has ALREADY shown itself to be a more effective treatment
» than the home-brew regimine he pushes in the signature of each and every
» one of his posts. When you factor in the fact that millions of dollars are
» being spent funding well-organized teams of world-class scientists to study
» the HM problem, and roughly $0 is being spent furthering the research of
» the home-brew method, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see which
» avenue is the better bet.
»
» Second, I would put the odds of the 2nd cohort receiving a different
» treatment as extremely high. Why, because ICX is not stupid enough to
» waste money by duplicating the exact original study. IOW, if they wanted
» more data, it would have been cheaper, faster, and easier to inject 10 in
» the first study as opposed to 5. Since we know that this is a rolling
» trial, we know that the 2nd batch recieved an altered protocol. The fact
» that 100% of the trialists responded to the 2nd protocol is good news. The
» bad news is that ICX has now reached a consistency that is similar to the
» point where Dr. Gho reached but could never overcome. So we are at a point
» where ICX’ additional funding, team size, and prior experience in
» developing bleeding edge TE products could start to make a difference.
»
» However, with their current consistency numbers, the treatment is
» marketable at this point in time. As long as patients are informed of the
» odds of their treatment outcome, they will buy this procedure. So from
» here forward, ICX will continue its stage II rolling trial in an attempt
» to further improve the consistency. Then they will move to phase III where
» they will begin to treat actual patient cases (full head restorations).
» Then they will market the product (most likely as an adjunct to HT).

where did ICX PROVE that they are vastly superior to Minox Rogaine, Propecia, etc

I never claimed my regimen was superior to any of these, it is just not a drug, with side effects that is why i take it

show me WHERE ICX has PROVEN to be vastly superior to ANY currently available regimen?

they wont even post pics or HAIR COUNTS , much less terminal hair counts. Show me where AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY has even VERIFIED that they have regrown hair. ? all we have now is THEIR WORD, …well thats not PROOF, sorry

you guys live in your own little dreamworld

DREAM ON:-P :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

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<<<<show me WHERE ICX has PROVEN to be vastly superior to ANY currently available regimen?

they wont even post pics or HAIR COUNTS , much less terminal hair counts. Show me where AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY has even VERIFIED that they have regrown hair. ? all we have now is THEIR WORD, …well thats not PROOF, sorry>>>

You are obviously extremely ignorant about the way that private research progresses. ICX won’t show pictures for the same reasons no other private research company will provide such findings (these reasons are too obvious to even discuss, but if you truly don’t know them, do a web search and become informed on this subject).

An independent third party? Are you serious? That’s the best joke I’ve heard all year. Yes, you are very ignorant about the way that bleeding edge research is performed in THIS world. Just who do you suppose is going to fund the third party to check up on ICX’ results? Are you going to put up the money? LOL!

ICX has provided us with the statistics that prove my prior assertions. That is all of the proof that is necessary. Since ICX is a publicly traded company, if they were to lie about this, it would effectively bankrupt the company. Your entire line of attack is based upon the fact that since YOU don’t know something, then something can’t possibly exist. This is gross misuse of the scientific method. If you don’t know what the scientific method is, then I suggest you do a web search and become informed on the subject before you post again.

Neither Minoxidil or Propecia showed as good of consistency at growing new hair as ICX’ HM–ICX blows them out of the park! Try not to cry about that, and instead go back to the vitamin and pigeon dung forum where you came from. :smiley:

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The
» bad news is that ICX has now reached a consistency that is similar to the
» point where Dr. Gho reached but could never overcome. So we are at a point
» where ICX’ additional funding, team size, and prior experience in
» developing bleeding edge TE products could start to make a difference.
»

Yep- this is the part that took the wind out of my sail. JB- we all know (well almost all) that HM is not just a pipe dream and will eventually come to market. I was just hoping the time frame would be a little shorter. Just wishful thinking on my part. Damon’s too for that matter. I really hope he’s doing alright. But your statement above seems to lead to the all so infamous chant of “5 more fucking years”.

Yes and I realize this is a new technology and that always necessitates time to wade out the consistency issues. I just want to hear some really good news for a change.:frowning:

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» <<<<show me WHERE ICX has PROVEN to be vastly superior to ANY currently
» available regimen?
»
» they wont even post pics or HAIR COUNTS , much less terminal hair counts.
» Show me where AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY has even VERIFIED that they have
» regrown hair. ? all we have now is THEIR WORD, …well thats not
» PROOF, sorry>>>
»
» You are obviously extremely ignorant about the way that private research
» progresses. ICX won’t show pictures for the same reasons no other private
» research company will provide such findings (these reasons are too obvious
» to even discuss, but if you truly don’t know them, do a web search and
» become informed on this subject).
»
» An independent third party? Are you serious? That’s the best joke I’ve
» heard all year. Yes, you are very ignorant about the way that bleeding
» edge research is performed in THIS world. Just who do you suppose is going
» to fund the third party to check up on ICX’ results? Are you going to put
» up the money? LOL!
»
» ICX has provided us with the statistics that prove my prior assertions.
» That is all of the proof that is necessary. Since ICX is a publicly traded
» company, if they were to lie about this, it would effectively bankrupt the
» company. Your entire line of attack is based upon the fact that since YOU
» don’t know something, then something can’t possibly exist. This is gross
» misuse of the scientific method. If you don’t know what the scientific
» method is, then I suggest you do a web search and become informed on the
» subject before you post again.
»
» Neither Minoxidil or Propecia showed as good of consistency at growing new
» hair as ICX’ HM–ICX blows them out of the park! Try not to cry about that,
» and instead go back to the vitamin and pigeon dung forum where you came
» from. :smiley:

bullcrap

their results so far have been far from stellar, you interpret them the way you wish they were
the 104 percent is what? if the guy had 5 hairs in the area before and now has 12 I guess that is 120 percent increase, so lets see that is 7 new hairs grown WOW,

this is why percentages without hair counts, are meaningless
of course dumb saps like you who question nothing , will eagerly make excuses as to why this is necessary, the lack of hair counts,oh I know it is so their competition will think they are moving slowly, yes thats it, and then WHAM they will come out and blow everyone away with the results

dream on little dreamer

by the way I assume you are bald as a cueball and have no succesful regimen so your knowledge of hair loss and its treatments is limited to waiting for HM to come out, correct me If I am wrong

my regimen may not be the best out there but I guarantee it puts your results to shame

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» But your statement above seems to lead to
» the all so infamous chant of “5 more fucking years”.
»
» Yes and I realize this is a new technology and that always necessitates
» time to wade out the consistency issues. I just want to hear some really
» good news for a change.:frowning:

It could take 5 more years. OTOH, IMO, ICX will be anxious to release HM in order to start bringing in profits. So from a purely business prospective, they only need to prove that the product works and that people will buy it in sufficient numbers for it to be profitable to sell. Then the product can be sold as they continue to work out the bugs. Once TRC is marketed, trials are over. From there it can be researched and improved upon in the clinical setting.

There are tons of balding men throughout the world that have a LOT of money to spend. If this helps them achieve a fuller appearance of hair, they will buy it whether it is consistent or not. ICX does not have to perfect this technology in order for it to become profitable. This is because a product of this kind has absolutely no competition in the current marketplace. HT, is an adjunct–not a competitor, as are all other currently available products except for wigs. And the only ones who will buy wigs are the ones who have tried TRC and not had success; thus, wigs are not a true competitor (they fall into a category similar to clippers and razors–last resort).

So if ICX-TRC proves to only be marketable to people desperate or rich enough to take a chance during the early marketing period, it is not a bad thing, as these people will be paying the bill for the rest of us who will get the cheaper more refined procedure a few more years down the road.

Certainly there is no guarantee, but I believe ICX will be anxious to market this procedure and get early profits rolling in. The big cash cow will come for them later when they further refine the procedure to be suitable for the masses. Therefore, my predictive timeline remains the same on this technology–from 2009 to 2012 with 2010 being the best chance of early rollout if it is to happen. 2009 is possible, albeit not likely. Anything earlier is unrealistic.

Although ICX’ results might not seem spectacular to the HM crowd, keep in mind that if the drug, topical, or natural treatment crowd had a product that regrew hair in 100% of patients in a new startup company’s research trial, they would be pimping this thing from the rooftops. So from that perspective, ICX latests results truly are good news. It’s just we over here in the HM crowd expect quite a lot from this particular treatment (myself included). But that won’t stop the bald 40-year-old with too much money and not enough chicks from buying this product when it first hits the street.

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You should not bother with hanging he is psychotic he was fighting everyday for a month or 2 with the shampoo guy.The guy is a total idiot and he has destroyed the forum before and he will do it here also if you keep answering to him.

Let him go back to the transplant forum because if you take him seriously and you start arguing with him he will destroy the forum by posting 100 times his BS and he will attack all the genuine posters in here.

Ignore him he is a total idiot just check his posting history to see for how long he was fighting with the shampoo idiot who had 4 id’s.

IGNORE THE IDIOT HE WILL DESTROY THE FORUM