Thanks John I appreciate the support. It does take time out of my daily schedule to write and post pictures and I really don’t mind if I am able to help others make a better decision. In light of recent postings I think anyone that is presenting their case and using beard and body hair as donor needs to post clear and close up photos of their donor region. I have seen some other cases on some of the other forms where photos are presented but oddly enough the donor regions seem to have been left out for some reason. I never questioned why before but now I think it’s important for other forum members to start asking.
topcat where i can find your email?i want to ask you some things.
topcat some questions though
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What is your ultimate goal?
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When do you think your journey is finally over?
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If you wouldnt have the “botched” transplants in the past, would you have sufficient donor hair today for a FUE restoration?
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Did you ever occur to talk to lets say Dr Gho?
Just questions out of curiosity
My ultimate goal is to take my repair as far as I can go with the available donor that I have left. A complete repair is probably not possible at this point but if technology improves it might be in the future.
At this point I would like to continue to make small incremental improvements over time and I am just guessing here but maybe 3 more small procedures if possible. It really is hard to say at this point and I prefer to just take it one step at a time.
Yes, I would have enough donor for fue if I wasn’t a repair patient. If the hairline was placed appropriately and the crown is addressed last, I believe I would have a very pleasing result.
I was banned from this site for speaking out against Gho maybe 6-7 years ago. I felt that he was using his HM as a bait and switch for a less than mediocre HT for the patients he was able to lure in at the time. I’m not sure what he is up to these days but of course if he actually has a process that works it would benefit many. I also spoke out against Bazan around the same time and he was using a similar tactic to lure in patients. I speak to one of those patients on occasion and he recently had his posting abilities restricted here. But what Bazan was doing borders on criminal in my opinion.
Here is my update at 4 months after my 2nd procedure. Not much to report at this time as it is way too early to see any substantial growth. I am happy at this point to be able to use concealer and not have to wear a hat.
I also do not really obsess about it. The hair will start to grow when it’s ready and I just get on with my day.
Here is my update at 5 months and the hairs are coming in very nicely. I must say that all this extra hair where there was once none is really starting to make a difference for me. The healing has been exceptional and my donor areas are impeccable. I will update my donor area pictures in another month or so as most of my work at the moment requires me to spend plenty of time in the sunshine. I could not imagine being unable to take of my shirt due to white dotting. The health benefits of all that Vitamin D are just too important.
Interesting. Did you ever consider to harvest almost all of your remaining bodyhair?
» Interesting. Did you ever consider to harvest almost all of your remaining
» bodyhair?
Yes I plan on using as much beard and chest hair as possible. But the sensible approach is to do it incrementally. Sure it takes longer but it’s the safest approach for the patient.
Personally I think trying to go for a home run is a very bad idea but not everyone is going to agree.
» » Interesting. Did you ever consider to harvest almost all of your
» remaining
» » bodyhair?
» Yes I plan on using as much beard and chest hair as possible. But the
» sensible approach is to do it incrementally. Sure it takes longer but it’s
» the safest approach for the patient.
» Personally I think trying to go for a home run is a very bad idea but not
» everyone is going to agree.
How many Bodyhair and BEardhair Grafts do you have in reserve. And did you have any DOnor hair left?
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» How many Bodyhair and BEardhair Grafts do you have in reserve. And did you
» have any DOnor hair left?
That is a hard question to answer. I’m sure I have at least 1-2 thousand available but that is just a guess. I also might have some head donor left but not much and it has to be taken out with great care as I do have a tremendous amount of scarring that it helps to hide.
Of course unlimited donor would be nice but this is here now and it’s making a huge difference.
What is important to me is that I have zero scarring from my procedures with BHR, excellent yield and the hair looks completely natural.
Here is my picture at 6 months following my second procedure. The hair is coming in very nicely and making quite a difference for me this early in my repair. I must also repeat that my donor areas are flawless. I will post pictures of the beard and chest areas in a few weeks. I have included a before picture for comparison.
The growth for 1600+ fue of which 50% were made up of many single chest and beard hairs has been incredible.
I have been doing plenty of work outdoors along with enjoying some leisure time in the sun and with my skin getting darker it is quite evident that I have zero white dotting. Being in the sun is a big deal for me as I have become extremely health conscious over the years. The sun raises testosterone levels, serotonin levels, and vitamin D levels and I can’t imagine not being able to enjoy it.
As I have written the progress so far this early has been fantastic. Just wanted to post a photo using some concealer and show exactly why all that extra hair matters. Anyone that uses a concealer knows the more hair you have the better it works.
» As I have written the progress so far this early has been fantastic. Just
» wanted to post a photo using some concealer and show exactly why all that
» extra hair matters. Anyone that uses a concealer knows the more hair you
» have the better it works.
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topcat are you ready for a bigger session now or you want to keep testing with smaller sessions??..or are you happy as you are at this point with concealers and no more surgeries?
ALSO DOES IT LOOK UNDETECTABLE WITH A CONCEALER??
Hairlove having smaller sessions allows for slow and steady progress with the ability to make course corrections along the way. It has also given my skin the ability to heal and I can see no evidence that extractions were made from my face or chest areas.
How does one make a correction with a very large body and beard hair session when the result ends up looking odd? How does one go back and undo scarring that is visible because the healing of the skin was compromised? Probably not a good idea. So slow and steady progress as advised by the clinic seems to make the most sense and I would fully agree.
Thank you for your comments. Hopefully this helps others as I have always appreciated those that have posted in the past.
Wow looks great! what brand of concealer ?
bk169 someone asked me this on another forum so I will just cut and paste the same reply.
I have tried just about every concealer out there over the years. I have found Prothik to be one of the best. It is very good at being water proof and since I do sweat heavily when I’m in the gym that matters. It also is fairly easy to apply as you just spray it on. Sometimes the sprayer will get clogged towards the end of the product contents but soaking the sprayer head solves this problem.
I apply the concealer to my scalp with the hair still wet. Basically I am trying to have the same effect as micropigmentation. Without having the concealer being applied to heavily on the hair shaft itself, it keeps its natural shine and highlights giving a much more natural appearance.
dont wanna sound like a broken record here BUT i think its time to at least check out Gho stuff, seriously the facts are adding up
Thanks Stevie I know your intentions are only good. I will stick with what works. If I was 20 I might have been apt to give it a shot, but I also hope that there would be someone around that knew better and would tell me to wait and study the history of this industry. Look at what has happened to so many others that simply gave something a try on just hope alone.
When HM is truly available regardless if it with only profit in mind, to truly help others, or a combination of both. It will not be performed by some man hidden away is some small corner of the world. It would be much more profitable and would help a greater number of people by teaching others the protocol. But this is just my opinion.
Here is something most might not understand about me and my hair transplant experience over all these years. Even though I was taken advantage of by all those previous clinics as they were in a position of authority and superior knowledge many good things did come out of it.
As I have stated in the past I became more aware of not only how things work in the field of medicine but generally in the world itself. Because of my experience I have become very knowledgeable and conscious of my health and that has been a true blessing. I have as much energy and stamina when I wake up each and every day as I did when I was a teenager and this is as my 49th birthday is quickly approaching. How much is that worth? Can one even put a price on it? It brings a tremendous amount of happiness into my life. But not only that, it has helped so many others that have come to know me. Sometimes you can’t help believe things happen for a reason.
I have worked in the nite club industry for a good portion of my life. Having access to women was very easy working in that industry. Coupled with the fact that I developed those social skills when I was 13 and confidence with women was never a problem. Here’s the point, because of my experience with these bad hair clinics my morals and values which were already strong at the time became only stronger. It was hard for me to understand why others would take advantage of someone and often times as we have seen on the forums destroy another’s life for monetary gain. So instead of ending up with the good looking woman that also was a little wild which always attracted me. I ended up with the good looking woman that also had high morals and values. A woman that cares more about me than herself. Of course as I look around me and observe others in relationships and see their misery I count my blessings. I realize how much happiness this has also brought into my life.
So I have to ask myself would having a full head of hair but having extremely poor health along with being in a miserable relationship make me happier if I was offered the chance, the answer would be no.
Bad doctors and self serving clinics can make all the money in the world that they want but it doesn’t bring someone happiness unbeknownst to them. In fact it does just the opposite as that greed can only bring like minded individuals into their life which usually ends up in unhappiness no matter how much money they make. We see it in the news day in and day out but sometimes we fail to understand the reasons behind it. Something else these same people fail to realize is that you are not taking all that useless crap those ill gotten funds provided you with when you die. When it’s your time to go what is really important is what you did for others while you were here. Who did you help along the way and how will you be remembered? The relatives will fight over some of that useless crap and the rest get tossed into the garbage. The bad doctors will be remembered as that asshole who destroyed the lives of so many others because they were so greedy, quite an accomplishment. I’m sure their parents would have been proud.
Making money is great and I don’t mind working hard for it but for me it is simply not at the top of my list. I don’t need loads of useless crap that all the big corporations are trying to convince me will bring happiness into my life. I’m already happy and it has very little to do with money. In fact I go out of my way not to buy that crap as it just feeds into the system and makes me feel like a sucker just like those self serving clinics made me feel.
My hair issues began all because of one offhanded comment by a relative at an age when one is probably most venerable to feeling insecure. Too bad I didn’t have the emotional security and confidence at that young age that I do now. But that is life and there is always something good that comes out of something bad. It’s all about one’s perception.
Anyone that thinks that I have ulterior motives doesn’t know me well. Nothing makes me happier or makes me feel better than being able to help someone else. For someone to say I really appreciate what you told me or how you helped me because it has made a huge difference in my life makes my day.
And of course having all this extra hair that is now growing makes me happy. Plenty of posters here know what it’s like trying to style just a few strands of hair to look presentable to the world. It can be a time consuming and frustrating ordeal on a daily basis. It really is a big relief for me.
Here are some pictures of my beard donor areas just after the procedure and as it looks today. My skin has gotten much darker from working outside in the sunshine but it’s hard to tell from the close up photo. I have found no visible evidence of the extractions being made except for the missing hair which was taken from a relatively small area due to my beard not being as strong. Approximately 500 beard fue over 2 sessions. I will post pictures of the chest extractions in a few weeks, which give a better idea of the change in skin color from being in the sun with the same result of no visible evidence of extractions being made.