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» Okay, this is what I think it means:
»
» This summer’s trials will be preclinical trials.
» Then, in 2 or 3 years, they will file for an IND application.
» Then, PhaseI
» Then, Phase II
» Then, Phase III
» Then, launch in 2020 IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL.
»
How the hell did you come up with year 2020 launch? That is 12 years away so why all the buzz about Follica being easier to approve? Ridiculous.
» » Okay, this is what I think it means:
» »
» » This summer’s trials will be preclinical trials.
» » Then, in 2 or 3 years, they will file for an IND application.
» » Then, PhaseI
» » Then, Phase II
» » Then, Phase III
» » Then, launch in 2020 IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL.
» »
»
» How the hell did you come up with year 2020 launch? That is 12 years away
» so why all the buzz about Follica being easier to approve? Ridiculous.
This guessing game is fun; let me try.
Based on a vague 6 month old paragraph and comments made by several chronic pessimist, I predict HM will be available in 200 years. See you all in 2208.
.
» http://www.helixis.com/news_events/2008/START-UP_Alist.pdf
»
» Zohar says 2/3 years , but for IND application process!
A couple of observations:
As has already been mentioned, IND applications must be filed before clinical trials begin. So, the article doesn’t appear to make much sense. Maybe they meant a NDA (if they did, this is sloppy journalism).
This is a somewhat old article, and it contradicts - to some degree - Follica’s public comments.
In other words, I don’t put a lot of stock in this article. That said, I don’t know how long it will take Follica to get a product to market. The upcoming clinical trial is the key, though. That’ll show if the procedure works…after that, it’s just a formality (assuming it works, of course).
» This guessing game is fun; let me try.
»
» Based on a vague 6 month old paragraph and comments made by several
» chronic pessimist, I predict HM will be available in 200 years. See you
» all in 2208.
haha . don’t say it too loud. It could well be the case. 
We should be on this now. I still do not understand the dangers of an attempt at Homeade Follica. I am not confident that Follica will be released anytime soon, if at all. However, we know that there is plenty of anectodal evidence for dermabrasion in conjuction with other topicals and internals. Our best bet is to experiment if we want to ever see anything get done. Waiting will bring no information. We have to do this ourselves instead of listening to bogus reports and hoping that there will be a solution someday. Acell is available through the right channels. I am surprised nobody has taken initiative to try this out.
When I posted the thread to try to raise money (as a group) to offer some incentive for a company / person to develop a product that successfully would provide a cure / treatment for hairloss…I was riduculed severely for it. Many said that it was “The dumbest thread ever posted” in this forum. Many begged me to drop the subject because they wanted to read and learn about “valuable information about hairloss”. The members of this forum want to be well-informed baldies…maybe it makes for interesting conversation at a party? Maybe you can talk to hot chicks about your knowledge on hairloss and impress her…see if it works.
Now, the members are saying that they are hoping for someone to develop a homemade cure for hairloss. Don’t you think that if we raised even tens of thousands or maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars, and individual may have more of an incentive to try something like this. I do not want anyone at home to attempt a procedure that may harm themself, but for the ones that are going to try it anyway, a lump sum of money will be an added bonus.
We are saying that Intercytex is “dead in the water” and Follica is 10 years away? I hope not. I just hope that I’m not here 10 years from now wishing that we had tried something like this 10 years ago.
OK…you can all make fun of me now. You can continue to talk about the science of hairloss and be heroes in the hairloss fourm…yet accomplish nothing!
Take Care,
Bill
» When I posted the thread to try to raise money (as a group) to offer some
» incentive for a company / person to develop a product that successfully
» would provide a cure / treatment for hairloss…I was riduculed severely
» for it. Many said that it was “The dumbest thread ever posted” in this
» forum. Many begged me to drop the subject because they wanted to read and
» learn about “valuable information about hairloss”. The members of this
» forum want to be well-informed baldies…maybe it makes for interesting
» conversation at a party? Maybe you can talk to hot chicks about your
» knowledge on hairloss and impress her…see if it works.
»
» Now, the members are saying that they are hoping for someone to develop a
» homemade cure for hairloss. Don’t you think that if we raised even tens of
» thousands or maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars, and individual may
» have more of an incentive to try something like this. I do not want anyone
» at home to attempt a procedure that may harm themself, but for the ones
» that are going to try it anyway, a lump sum of money will be an added
» bonus.
»
» We are saying that Intercytex is “dead in the water” and Follica is 10
» years away? I hope not. I just hope that I’m not here 10 years from now
» wishing that we had tried something like this 10 years ago.
»
» OK…you can all make fun of me now. You can continue to talk about the
» science of hairloss and be heroes in the hairloss fourm…yet accomplish
» nothing!
»
» Take Care,
» Bill
This forum always boils down to one big blame game. Come on Bill; you come about to hairsite every-so-often to tell us “I told you so” when you should be focusing on a business plan instead. If you feel strongly about these objectives than you’ll have to take the initiative.
.
» » When I posted the thread to try to raise money (as a group) to offer
» some
» » incentive for a company / person to develop a product that successfully
» » would provide a cure / treatment for hairloss…I was riduculed
» severely
» » for it. Many said that it was “The dumbest thread ever posted” in this
» » forum. Many begged me to drop the subject because they wanted to read
» and
» » learn about “valuable information about hairloss”. The members of this
» » forum want to be well-informed baldies…maybe it makes for interesting
» » conversation at a party? Maybe you can talk to hot chicks about your
» » knowledge on hairloss and impress her…see if it works.
» »
» » Now, the members are saying that they are hoping for someone to develop
» a
» » homemade cure for hairloss. Don’t you think that if we raised even tens
» of
» » thousands or maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars, and individual may
» » have more of an incentive to try something like this. I do not want
» anyone
» » at home to attempt a procedure that may harm themself, but for the ones
» » that are going to try it anyway, a lump sum of money will be an added
» » bonus.
» »
» » We are saying that Intercytex is “dead in the water” and Follica is 10
» » years away? I hope not. I just hope that I’m not here 10 years from
» now
» » wishing that we had tried something like this 10 years ago.
» »
» » OK…you can all make fun of me now. You can continue to talk about
» the
» » science of hairloss and be heroes in the hairloss fourm…yet
» accomplish
» » nothing!
» »
» » Take Care,
» » Bill
»
» This forum always boils down to one big blame game. Come on Bill; you come
» about to hairsite every-so-often to tell us “I told you so” when you should
» be focusing on a business plan instead. If you feel strongly about these
» objectives than you’ll have to take the initiative.
»
»
»
»
» .
Actually, I come to hairsite every day. I only post on occasion. I am not blaming anyone and I really do not care to say that “I told you so”. I just want my hair back. As far as taking the initiative and focusing on a business plan, I feel that if I can’t get support here, it’s not worth trying. If the members of this forum aren’t motivated enough to even discuss this topic…then %#*& it…I can’t do it alone! I’m just afraid that we will be here 10 years from now discussing these same topics and looking forward to the cure to be out in 5 years.
» Actually, I come to hairsite every day. I only post on occasion. I am
» not blaming anyone and I really do not care to say that “I told you so”. I
» just want my hair back. As far as taking the initiative and focusing on a
» business plan, I feel that if I can’t get support here, it’s not worth
» trying. If the members of this forum aren’t motivated enough to even
» discuss this topic…then %#*& it…I can’t do it alone! I’m just
» afraid that we will be here 10 years from now discussing these same topics
» and looking forward to the cure to be out in 5 years.
I never said I was opposed to your idea; I’m simply saying you need more than a mere thought; . For example, I think we should have more fuel-efficient cars in light of the high gas prices; we should solve world hunger, we should end illiteracy, and I think it’s time we kicked cancer’s ass… Pretty awesome ideas… too bad they have no plan of attack.
a) you say you want hair/ more hair? - we all do.
b) you want to pool knowledge? - work with hairsite admin on a wiki page.
c) you want to offer an h-prize for biotech’s? - where’s the business plan that will direct us how to collect funds, investigate claims and dispense milestone payments?
d) you want more companies to research hairloss? - again, work with hairsite to make a biotech masterlist whom we can contact/ coax into this research field.
e) you want to create a way to verify findings? - Contact some of the HT doctors on this site; ask them if they’re interested in being part of an informal committee that can look-over new findings. You’ll need legal assistance as well (you don’t want committee members exploiting these findings for their personal/ financial gains).
f) you considered coaxing individuals to DIY formulas? - the world’s full of morons barely smart enough to sue you. Work to make a better forum, so people are encouraged to try new ideas WITHOUT feeling you told them to try something (that can land you in financial trouble).
.
» » Actually, I come to hairsite every day. I only post on occasion. I am
» » not blaming anyone and I really do not care to say that “I told you so”.
» I
» » just want my hair back. As far as taking the initiative and focusing on
» a
» » business plan, I feel that if I can’t get support here, it’s not worth
» » trying. If the members of this forum aren’t motivated enough to even
» » discuss this topic…then %#*& it…I can’t do it alone! I’m just
» » afraid that we will be here 10 years from now discussing these same
» topics
» » and looking forward to the cure to be out in 5 years.
»
» I never said I was opposed to your idea; I’m simply saying you need more
» than a mere thought; . For example, I think we should have more
» fuel-efficient cars in light of the high gas prices; we should solve world
» hunger, we should end illiteracy, and I think it’s time we kicked cancer’s
» ass… Pretty awesome ideas… too bad they have no plan of attack.
»
» a) you say you want hair/ more hair? - we all do.
»
» b) you want to pool knowledge? - work with hairsite admin on a wiki page.
»
» c) you want to offer an h-prize for biotech’s? - where’s the business
» plan that will direct us how to collect funds, investigate claims and
» dispense milestone payments?
»
» d) you want more companies to research hairloss? - again, work with
» hairsite to make a biotech masterlist whom we can contact/ coax into this
» research field.
»
» e) you want to create a way to verify findings? - Contact some of the HT
» doctors on this site; ask them if they’re interested in being part of an
» informal committee that can look-over new findings. You’ll need legal
» assistance as well (you don’t want committee members exploiting these
» findings for their personal/ financial gains).
»
» f) you considered coaxing individuals to DIY formulas? - the world’s full
» of morons barely smart enough to sue you. Work to make a better forum, so
» people are encouraged to try new ideas WITHOUT feeling you told them to try
» something (that can land you in financial trouble).
»
»
»
»
» .
Rev,
I appreciate your show of support (?). You’re right, I need more than ideas, but every good invention / business / ect… starts with an idea. I also would need some cooperation. With over 1200 members in this forum, we could work together on this. If we did, it would not be too much of a task for any one person. I’m sure we have members of all types of professions who posess different skills / abilities.
I’m not even saying that any of the ideas I’ve had were the approach we should take. They are just starting points for others to add CONSTRUCTIVE criticism to. Again, with over 1200 members in the forum, I’m sure we could put our heads together to come up with what would be best. I’m not concerned if any of my ideas are used (I have no ego about that)…I just want my hair back.
By the way, I didn’t bring this topic up expecting any different reaction that the last time I brought it up. I’ve given up on it (even though I think that we should do SOMETHING to help ourselves). I just brought it up to point out the fact that we may be here years from now wishing we did something. (Every time it’s been discussed, other forum members point out the fact that large companies are too far ahead and an idea like this would have no impact on a solution to hairloss…but every company we put our faith in disappoints us). That is not an “I told you so”…trust me I wish that these members were right…all I want is a full head of hair.
» » » Actually, I come to hairsite every day. I only post on occasion. I
» am
» » » not blaming anyone and I really do not care to say that “I told you
» so”.
» » I
» » » just want my hair back. As far as taking the initiative and focusing
» on
» » a
» » » business plan, I feel that if I can’t get support here, it’s not
» worth
» » » trying. If the members of this forum aren’t motivated enough to even
» » » discuss this topic…then %#*& it…I can’t do it alone! I’m just
» » » afraid that we will be here 10 years from now discussing these same
» » topics
» » » and looking forward to the cure to be out in 5 years.
» »
» » I never said I was opposed to your idea; I’m simply saying you need
» more
» » than a mere thought; . For example, I think we should have more
» » fuel-efficient cars in light of the high gas prices; we should solve
» world
» » hunger, we should end illiteracy, and I think it’s time we kicked
» cancer’s
» » ass… Pretty awesome ideas… too bad they have no plan of attack.
» »
» » a) you say you want hair/ more hair? - we all do.
» »
» » b) you want to pool knowledge? - work with hairsite admin on a wiki
» page.
» »
» » c) you want to offer an h-prize for biotech’s? - where’s the business
» » plan that will direct us how to collect funds, investigate claims and
» » dispense milestone payments?
» »
» » d) you want more companies to research hairloss? - again, work with
» » hairsite to make a biotech masterlist whom we can contact/ coax into
» this
» » research field.
» »
» » e) you want to create a way to verify findings? - Contact some of the
» HT
» » doctors on this site; ask them if they’re interested in being part of
» an
» » informal committee that can look-over new findings. You’ll need legal
» » assistance as well (you don’t want committee members exploiting these
» » findings for their personal/ financial gains).
» »
» » f) you considered coaxing individuals to DIY formulas? - the world’s
» full
» » of morons barely smart enough to sue you. Work to make a better forum,
» so
» » people are encouraged to try new ideas WITHOUT feeling you told them to
» try
» » something (that can land you in financial trouble).
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » .
»
» Rev,
»
» I appreciate your show of support (?). You’re right, I need more than
» ideas, but every good invention / business / ect… starts with an idea. I
» also would need some cooperation. With over 1200 members in this forum, we
» could work together on this. If we did, it would not be too much of a task
» for any one person. I’m sure we have members of all types of professions
» who posess different skills / abilities.
»
» I’m not even saying that any of the ideas I’ve had were the approach we
» should take. They are just starting points for others to add CONSTRUCTIVE
» criticism to. Again, with over 1200 members in the forum, I’m sure we
» could put our heads together to come up with what would be best. I’m not
» concerned if any of my ideas are used (I have no ego about that)…I just
» want my hair back.
»
» By the way, I didn’t bring this topic up expecting any different reaction
» that the last time I brought it up. I’ve given up on it (even though I
» think that we should do SOMETHING to help ourselves). I just brought it up
» to point out the fact that we may be here years from now wishing we did
» something. (Every time it’s been discussed, other forum members point out
» the fact that large companies are too far ahead and an idea like this would
» have no impact on a solution to hairloss…but every company we put our
» faith in disappoints us). That is not an “I told you so”…trust me I
» wish that these members were right…all I want is a full head of hair.
Even though I don’t post here often, I’m with you on this idea. I’m tired of waiting for companies like Follica and Intercytex missing deadlines again and again and I would love to get my hair back soon. I’d like to help out, is there anything I can do?
» http://www.helixis.com/news_events/2008/START-UP_Alist.pdf
»
» Zohar says 2/3 years , but for IND application process!:-
This shows follica isn’t what some ppl think. Its not just a combination of things that are already approved yielding something that won’t have to be approved.
Follica will have to go thru trials and an approval process just like anything else…
» » » » Actually, I come to hairsite every day. I only post on occasion. I
» » am
» » » » not blaming anyone and I really do not care to say that “I told you
» » so”.
» » » I
» » » » just want my hair back. As far as taking the initiative and
» focusing
» » on
» » » a
» » » » business plan, I feel that if I can’t get support here, it’s not
» » worth
» » » » trying. If the members of this forum aren’t motivated enough to
» even
» » » » discuss this topic…then %#*& it…I can’t do it alone! I’m
» just
» » » » afraid that we will be here 10 years from now discussing these same
» » » topics
» » » » and looking forward to the cure to be out in 5 years.
» » »
» » » I never said I was opposed to your idea; I’m simply saying you need
» » more
» » » than a mere thought; . For example, I think we should have more
» » » fuel-efficient cars in light of the high gas prices; we should solve
» » world
» » » hunger, we should end illiteracy, and I think it’s time we kicked
» » cancer’s
» » » ass… Pretty awesome ideas… too bad they have no plan of attack.
» » »
» » » a) you say you want hair/ more hair? - we all do.
» » »
» » » b) you want to pool knowledge? - work with hairsite admin on a wiki
» » page.
» » »
» » » c) you want to offer an h-prize for biotech’s? - where’s the
» business
» » » plan that will direct us how to collect funds, investigate claims and
» » » dispense milestone payments?
» » »
» » » d) you want more companies to research hairloss? - again, work with
» » » hairsite to make a biotech masterlist whom we can contact/ coax into
» » this
» » » research field.
» » »
» » » e) you want to create a way to verify findings? - Contact some of the
» » HT
» » » doctors on this site; ask them if they’re interested in being part of
» » an
» » » informal committee that can look-over new findings. You’ll need legal
» » » assistance as well (you don’t want committee members exploiting these
» » » findings for their personal/ financial gains).
» » »
» » » f) you considered coaxing individuals to DIY formulas? - the world’s
» » full
» » » of morons barely smart enough to sue you. Work to make a better
» forum,
» » so
» » » people are encouraged to try new ideas WITHOUT feeling you told them
» to
» » try
» » » something (that can land you in financial trouble).
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » .
» »
» » Rev,
» »
» » I appreciate your show of support (?). You’re right, I need more than
» » ideas, but every good invention / business / ect… starts with an idea.
» I
» » also would need some cooperation. With over 1200 members in this forum,
» we
» » could work together on this. If we did, it would not be too much of a
» task
» » for any one person. I’m sure we have members of all types of
» professions
» » who posess different skills / abilities.
» »
» » I’m not even saying that any of the ideas I’ve had were the approach we
» » should take. They are just starting points for others to add
» CONSTRUCTIVE
» » criticism to. Again, with over 1200 members in the forum, I’m sure we
» » could put our heads together to come up with what would be best. I’m
» not
» » concerned if any of my ideas are used (I have no ego about that)…I
» just
» » want my hair back.
» »
» » By the way, I didn’t bring this topic up expecting any different
» reaction
» » that the last time I brought it up. I’ve given up on it (even though I
» » think that we should do SOMETHING to help ourselves). I just brought it
» up
» » to point out the fact that we may be here years from now wishing we did
» » something. (Every time it’s been discussed, other forum members point
» out
» » the fact that large companies are too far ahead and an idea like this
» would
» » have no impact on a solution to hairloss…but every company we put
» our
» » faith in disappoints us). That is not an “I told you so”…trust me
» I
» » wish that these members were right…all I want is a full head of
» hair.
»
» Even though I don’t post here often, I’m with you on this idea. I’m tired
» of waiting for companies like Follica and Intercytex missing deadlines
» again and again and I would love to get my hair back soon. I’d like to help
» out, is there anything I can do?
Sure, get other members of the forum interested. If we worked together as a group we could combine our money, efforts and talents to accomplish something. There are professional from all walks of life here (attorneys, accountants, ect…) and many members who have boasted of large bank accounts. I’m not sure what the best approach would be, but I’m sure we could come up with something.
I’ve tried posting my e-mail before to see how many people would have any interest in this, but only got a few e-mails. Those few were willing to donate fairly large sums of money, but we need a large volume of people.
If you think you can get cooperation from the members of the forum…go for it. I couldn’t. That last time I tried, I was shut down instantly. Several posters said that it was the dumbest thread ever on hairsite…I guess they would rather come here and complain about their hairloss or investigate the science behind hairloss (but never actually achieve the goal of regrowing hair.
For what it’s worth, I’d probably be willing to do a little test patch with Acell right now if I knew a good way to get ahold of the stuff.
I’d pay money for the supplies, I’d do it on my own head, and I’d post a series of photos to document it. I’d settle for some animal-vet Acell powder as long as it’s not dangerously different from what they’re using on humans.
If dermabrasion didn’t work, then I’d probably even give myself some kind of FUE-style punch wound test before abandoning the stuff entirely.
» For what it’s worth, I’d probably be willing to do a little test patch with
» Acell right now if I knew a good way to get ahold of the stuff.
»
» I’d pay money for the supplies, I’d do it on my own head, and I’d post a
» series of photos to document it. I’d settle for some animal-vet Acell
» powder as long as it’s not dangerously different from what they’re using on
» humans.
»
»
» If dermabrasion didn’t work, then I’d probably even give myself some kind
» of FUE-style punch wound test before abandoning the stuff entirely.
I’ve spoken with the people at Acell. They’ve stated that the product is the same but the conditions in which it is produced are different. That is, the human grade product must be produced in a more sterile environment (there is an allowance of less parts per million in the air) than the vet grade product although both are considered to be sterile environments.
I’ve spoken to two different doctors who are interested in trying the product. One was out of the country and said that he was willing to try the vet grade product but couldn’t get his hands on any. I’m not sure if that is true because all he would have had to do would be in contact with a vetrinarian…but who knows. The other doctor is in the US and will not touch the product until it is released for human use. Hopefully that will be later this year like the website says. I’ve also e-mailed many more doctors (about 30 in total) but only got responses from these two and one other one who e-mailed me on a separate matter (he did my transplants almost 20 years ago). When it is released for human use, I will e-mail these docs again and hopefully will get a better response.
I don’t want to get anyone’s hopes up about Acell. The pictures look promising, but until they show regrowth on a human, I am being cautious about it. I’ve been let down too many times.
I would like to come up with a way to entice / reward those forward thinkers may possibly find a treatment / solution for hairloss. I would not want people to take chances with their health. I would want them to make educated decisions about what is best for them always maintaining their health as their number one priority (not money or their hair).
If anyone has any ideas…let me know.
Willy,
Just as your experience shows, a HT doctor with whom you have a prior relationship with will be more likely to respond to you than one you just email out of the blue (even though your doc did reply on another matter). Maybe it would be more productive if, instead of you emailing all those HT docs again, you (we) could get some other hairsite members who have had HT’s to email their doc’s? What do you think?
» » » » » Actually, I come to hairsite every day. I only post on occasion.
» I
» » » am
» » » » » not blaming anyone and I really do not care to say that “I told
» you
» » » so”.
» » » » I
» » » » » just want my hair back. As far as taking the initiative and
» » focusing
» » » on
» » » » a
» » » » » business plan, I feel that if I can’t get support here, it’s not
» » » worth
» » » » » trying. If the members of this forum aren’t motivated enough to
» » even
» » » » » discuss this topic…then %#*& it…I can’t do it alone! I’m
» » just
» » » » » afraid that we will be here 10 years from now discussing these
» same
» » » » topics
» » » » » and looking forward to the cure to be out in 5 years.
» » » »
» » » » I never said I was opposed to your idea; I’m simply saying you need
» » » more
» » » » than a mere thought; . For example, I think we should have more
» » » » fuel-efficient cars in light of the high gas prices; we should
» solve
» » » world
» » » » hunger, we should end illiteracy, and I think it’s time we kicked
» » » cancer’s
» » » » ass… Pretty awesome ideas… too bad they have no plan of attack.
» » » »
» » » » a) you say you want hair/ more hair? - we all do.
» » » »
» » » » b) you want to pool knowledge? - work with hairsite admin on a wiki
» » » page.
» » » »
» » » » c) you want to offer an h-prize for biotech’s? - where’s the
» » business
» » » » plan that will direct us how to collect funds, investigate claims
» and
» » » » dispense milestone payments?
» » » »
» » » » d) you want more companies to research hairloss? - again, work with
» » » » hairsite to make a biotech masterlist whom we can contact/ coax
» into
» » » this
» » » » research field.
» » » »
» » » » e) you want to create a way to verify findings? - Contact some of
» the
» » » HT
» » » » doctors on this site; ask them if they’re interested in being part
» of
» » » an
» » » » informal committee that can look-over new findings. You’ll need
» legal
» » » » assistance as well (you don’t want committee members exploiting
» these
» » » » findings for their personal/ financial gains).
» » » »
» » » » f) you considered coaxing individuals to DIY formulas? - the
» world’s
» » » full
» » » » of morons barely smart enough to sue you. Work to make a better
» » forum,
» » » so
» » » » people are encouraged to try new ideas WITHOUT feeling you told
» them
» » to
» » » try
» » » » something (that can land you in financial trouble).
» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » .
» » »
» » » Rev,
» » »
» » » I appreciate your show of support (?). You’re right, I need more
» than
» » » ideas, but every good invention / business / ect… starts with an
» idea.
» » I
» » » also would need some cooperation. With over 1200 members in this
» forum,
» » we
» » » could work together on this. If we did, it would not be too much of
» a
» » task
» » » for any one person. I’m sure we have members of all types of
» » professions
» » » who posess different skills / abilities.
» » »
» » » I’m not even saying that any of the ideas I’ve had were the approach
» we
» » » should take. They are just starting points for others to add
» » CONSTRUCTIVE
» » » criticism to. Again, with over 1200 members in the forum, I’m sure
» we
» » » could put our heads together to come up with what would be best. I’m
» » not
» » » concerned if any of my ideas are used (I have no ego about that)…I
» » just
» » » want my hair back.
» » »
» » » By the way, I didn’t bring this topic up expecting any different
» » reaction
» » » that the last time I brought it up. I’ve given up on it (even though
» I
» » » think that we should do SOMETHING to help ourselves). I just brought
» it
» » up
» » » to point out the fact that we may be here years from now wishing we
» did
» » » something. (Every time it’s been discussed, other forum members
» point
» » out
» » » the fact that large companies are too far ahead and an idea like this
» » would
» » » have no impact on a solution to hairloss…but every company we put
» » our
» » » faith in disappoints us). That is not an “I told you so”…trust
» me
» » I
» » » wish that these members were right…all I want is a full head of
» » hair.
» »
» » Even though I don’t post here often, I’m with you on this idea. I’m
» tired
» » of waiting for companies like Follica and Intercytex missing deadlines
» » again and again and I would love to get my hair back soon. I’d like to
» help
» » out, is there anything I can do?
»
»
» Sure, get other members of the forum interested. If we worked together as
» a group we could combine our money, efforts and talents to accomplish
» something. There are professional from all walks of life here (attorneys,
» accountants, ect…) and many members who have boasted of large bank
» accounts. I’m not sure what the best approach would be, but I’m sure we
» could come up with something.
»
» I’ve tried posting my e-mail before to see how many people would have any
» interest in this, but only got a few e-mails. Those few were willing to
» donate fairly large sums of money, but we need a large volume of people.
»
» If you think you can get cooperation from the members of the forum…go
» for it. I couldn’t. That last time I tried, I was shut down instantly.
» Several posters said that it was the dumbest thread ever on hairsite…I
» guess they would rather come here and complain about their hairloss or
» investigate the science behind hairloss (but never actually achieve the
» goal of regrowing hair.
I don’t know if that’s possible. From the few times I posted here, few people didn’t listen or responded. (And neither in HLT) We need to spread the word to other forums. Heck, maybe try MySpace. I’m sick of all the pessimism and cynicism in hair loss boards with new treatments just because it didn’t turn out the way they wanted it to.
Do you posters honestly expected Intercytex to tell all the secrets to a bunch of people on a board or the public? They’re a private firm and they don’t WANT TO TELL SECRETS SO SOMEONE CAN COPY IT AND DO IT BETTER. They can’t let their competitors know what’s up.
I’d like to donate some money to start out with. I’d love to experiment to see if I can get any back. Maybe try Facebook or MySpace as I mentioned. I’d still like to have hair before I die.
» Willy,
» Just as your experience shows, a HT doctor with whom you have a prior
» relationship with will be more likely to respond to you than one you just
» email out of the blue (even though your doc did reply on another matter).
» Maybe it would be more productive if, instead of you emailing all those HT
» docs again, you (we) could get some other hairsite members who have had
» HT’s to email their doc’s? What do you think?
That’s a good idea. We definately need to be active in trying to solve our problem. If there is a viable solution, HT doctors will eventually be forced to adopt the new technology, but there would be no harm in e-mailing them about up and comming advances in hair restoration. I’m sure alot of them don’t keep up with these new technologies.
Good idea, but donate money to whom? There would have to be some organization that accepts donations for this cause. I’m not sure how this would be started, but I’m sure it can and I would be willing donate and help in any way that I can.
» » » » Actually, I come to hairsite every day. I only post on occasion. I
» » am
» » » » not blaming anyone and I really do not care to say that “I told you
» » so”.
» » » I
» » » » just want my hair back. As far as taking the initiative and
» focusing
» » on
» » » a
» » » » business plan, I feel that if I can’t get support here, it’s not
» » worth
» » » » trying. If the members of this forum aren’t motivated enough to
» even
» » » » discuss this topic…then %#*& it…I can’t do it alone! I’m
» just
» » » » afraid that we will be here 10 years from now discussing these same
» » » topics
» » » » and looking forward to the cure to be out in 5 years.
» » »
» » » I never said I was opposed to your idea; I’m simply saying you need
» » more
» » » than a mere thought; . For example, I think we should have more
» » » fuel-efficient cars in light of the high gas prices; we should solve
» » world
» » » hunger, we should end illiteracy, and I think it’s time we kicked
» » cancer’s
» » » ass… Pretty awesome ideas… too bad they have no plan of attack.
» » »
» » » a) you say you want hair/ more hair? - we all do.
» » »
» » » b) you want to pool knowledge? - work with hairsite admin on a wiki
» » page.
» » »
» » » c) you want to offer an h-prize for biotech’s? - where’s the
» business
» » » plan that will direct us how to collect funds, investigate claims and
» » » dispense milestone payments?
» » »
» » » d) you want more companies to research hairloss? - again, work with
» » » hairsite to make a biotech masterlist whom we can contact/ coax into
» » this
» » » research field.
» » »
» » » e) you want to create a way to verify findings? - Contact some of the
» » HT
» » » doctors on this site; ask them if they’re interested in being part of
» » an
» » » informal committee that can look-over new findings. You’ll need legal
» » » assistance as well (you don’t want committee members exploiting these
» » » findings for their personal/ financial gains).
» » »
» » » f) you considered coaxing individuals to DIY formulas? - the world’s
» » full
» » » of morons barely smart enough to sue you. Work to make a better
» forum,
» » so
» » » people are encouraged to try new ideas WITHOUT feeling you told them
» to
» » try
» » » something (that can land you in financial trouble).
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » .
» »
» » Rev,
» »
» » I appreciate your show of support (?). You’re right, I need more than
» » ideas, but every good invention / business / ect… starts with an idea.
» I
» » also would need some cooperation. With over 1200 members in this forum,
» we
» » could work together on this. If we did, it would not be too much of a
» task
» » for any one person. I’m sure we have members of all types of
» professions
» » who posess different skills / abilities.
» »
» » I’m not even saying that any of the ideas I’ve had were the approach we
» » should take. They are just starting points for others to add
» CONSTRUCTIVE
» » criticism to. Again, with over 1200 members in the forum, I’m sure we
» » could put our heads together to come up with what would be best. I’m
» not
» » concerned if any of my ideas are used (I have no ego about that)…I
» just
» » want my hair back.
» »
» » By the way, I didn’t bring this topic up expecting any different
» reaction
» » that the last time I brought it up. I’ve given up on it (even though I
» » think that we should do SOMETHING to help ourselves). I just brought it
» up
» » to point out the fact that we may be here years from now wishing we did
» » something. (Every time it’s been discussed, other forum members point
» out
» » the fact that large companies are too far ahead and an idea like this
» would
» » have no impact on a solution to hairloss…but every company we put
» our
» » faith in disappoints us). That is not an “I told you so”…trust me
» I
» » wish that these members were right…all I want is a full head of
» hair.
»
» Even though I don’t post here often, I’m with you on this idea. I’m tired
» of waiting for companies like Follica and Intercytex missing deadlines
» again and again and I would love to get my hair back soon. I’d like to help
» out, is there anything I can do?
Right on Someday. Im willing also. I am ready to sandpaper my head and start applying stuff to document to add to our collective experiences.
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