Fibrosis and inflammation *key* to Topical success

Topicals for hair loss
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» » » cal, this from wikipedia
» » »
» » » “Leung’s study gave 45 Asian males and 55 Asian females varying
» » doses
» » » of 10-20mg of pantothenic acid (2000% of the US Daily Value), 80%
» » » orally and 20% through topical cream. Leung noted improvement of acne
» » » within one week to one month of the start of the treatment.”
» » »
» » » it seems only 20mg does the trick, you are taking 1000mg right? btw
» gnc
» » » has the 500mg version.
» » »
» » » cal, did you notice any decrease in your scalp sebum & acne - if you
» » had
» » » those? and what your age & NW status?
» »
» » It seems the best way is to dose it is with large doses between
» » 8,000mg-10,000mg in the begining and then tapering it down to 2,000mg+.
» »
» » Hair loss or thining is one of the severe, but rare, side effects
» » according to some.
» »
» » http://vitaminb5acne.com/
»
»
» Wrong way round!
»
» Start off low and then build up to a maintenace.
»
» Start of with around 500 mg and then see how you react to it and build up.
» I wouldnt take more than a couple of grams day of the stuff. You dont want
» to over-stimulate your adrenal glands too much!
»
»
»
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

So you’re saying build up to high dose and then taper off?

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» » » » cal, this from wikipedia
» » » »
» » » » “Leung’s study gave 45 Asian males and 55 Asian females varying
» » » doses
» » » » of 10-20mg of pantothenic acid (2000% of the US Daily Value),
» 80%
» » » » orally and 20% through topical cream. Leung noted improvement of
» acne
» » » » within one week to one month of the start of the treatment.”
» » » »
» » » » it seems only 20mg does the trick, you are taking 1000mg right? btw
» » gnc
» » » » has the 500mg version.
» » » »
» » » » cal, did you notice any decrease in your scalp sebum & acne - if
» you
» » » had
» » » » those? and what your age & NW status?
» » »
» » » It seems the best way is to dose it is with large doses between
» » » 8,000mg-10,000mg in the begining and then tapering it down to
» 2,000mg+.
» » »
» » » Hair loss or thining is one of the severe, but rare, side effects
» » » according to some.
» » »
» » » http://vitaminb5acne.com/
» »
» »
» » Wrong way round!
» »
» » Start off low and then build up to a maintenace.
» »
» » Start of with around 500 mg and then see how you react to it and build
» up.
» » I wouldnt take more than a couple of grams day of the stuff. You dont
» want
» » to over-stimulate your adrenal glands too much!
» »
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » Regards
» » Pete
»
» So you’re saying build up to high dose and then taper off?

Yes start at a low dosage and build upto a dosage where your notice the oiliness decreasing and then maintain that dosage and then try to reduce the dosage further. Take a B complex to balance your other B’s also.

Regards
Pete

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I just typed out the ingreds to NanoFibrin for someone else…might as well post 'em here.

Water, ascorbyl palmitate, malic acid, jojoba oil, calcium hydroxide, phenonip, Vitamin E, polysorbate 20, Vitamin A, lactic acid, resorcinol, salicylic acid, lecithin, cocoyl sulfate, sodium malate, balsam peru, petitgrain, benzoin, xanthan gum.

"Resorcinol is used to treat acne, seborrheic dermatitis, eczema, psoriasis, and other skin disorders. It is also used to treat corns, calluses, and warts.

Resorcinol works by helping to remove hard, scaly, or roughened skin."

"Cosmetic properties of benzoin chapped skin

It has some great therapeutic properties and assists with poor circulation, soothing dry, chapped skin, eczema, as well as minor wounds and scar tissue.

It is particularly effective for chapped hands, chilblains and rashes and is also a good remedy for wounds and sores - especially if redness and itching is present.
General information on benzoin skin care products chapped skin

The resin from the Styrax Benzoin tree (which belongs to the Stryracaceae family) is also known as gum benzoin, luban jawi (meaning frankincense of Java), Benjamin or Styrax benzoin.

Benzoin essential oil has a sweet, warm and vanilla-like aroma and is golden brown in color, with a treacle-like viscosity. Its main constituents are benzoic acid, benzyl benzoate, benzyl alcohol, vanillin and coniferyl benzoate"

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Is NanoFibrin specially created for scalp fibrosis and inflammation?

btw is fibrosis and inflammation more or less the same thing?

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» I just typed out the ingreds to NanoFibrin for someone else…might as well
» post 'em here.
»
» Water, ascorbyl palmitate, malic acid, jojoba oil, calcium hydroxide,
» phenonip, Vitamin E, polysorbate 20, Vitamin A, lactic acid, resorcinol,
» salicylic acid, lecithin, cocoyl sulfate, sodium malate, balsam peru,
» petitgrain, benzoin, xanthan gum.
»
» “Resorcinol is used to treat acne, seborrheic dermatitis, eczema,
» psoriasis, and other skin disorders. It is also used to treat corns,
» calluses, and warts.
»
» Resorcinol works by helping to remove hard, scaly, or roughened skin.”
»

Jacob

What do you think think the main ingredients in NanoFibrin are? Vitamin A/ salicylic acid?

Regards
Pete

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» » I just typed out the ingreds to NanoFibrin for someone else…might as
» well
» » post 'em here.
» »
» » Water, ascorbyl palmitate, malic acid, jojoba oil, calcium hydroxide,
» » phenonip, Vitamin E, polysorbate 20, Vitamin A, lactic acid,
» resorcinol,
» » salicylic acid, lecithin, cocoyl sulfate, sodium malate, balsam peru,
» » petitgrain, benzoin, xanthan gum.
» »
» » “Resorcinol is used to treat acne, seborrheic dermatitis, eczema,
» » psoriasis, and other skin disorders. It is also used to treat corns,
» » calluses, and warts.
» »
» » Resorcinol works by helping to remove hard, scaly, or roughened skin.”
» »
»
»
» Jacob
»
» What do you think think the main ingredients in NanoFibrin are? Vitamin A/
» salicylic acid?
»
»
»

Probably the Resorcinol and…it’s hard to pick the next 2nd “best”.

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» Is NanoFibrin specially created for scalp fibrosis and inflammation?
»
» btw is fibrosis and inflammation more or less the same thing?

I think it was intended mainly for the scalp…but they do say it can be used anywhere.

This may answer your second question:

“Studies and research show that moderate inflammation is more common in balding scalp and inflammation with or without fibrosis is more common in men with androgenetic alopecia vs. normal controls. This inflammation in androgenetic alopecia is seen as a mild to moderate peri-infundibular lymphohistiocytic inflammatory infiltrate. It is present in up to two thirds of biopsies but this again, is a non-specific feature that is also found in up to one-third of normal scalp biopsies. That this inflammation or fibrosis may have prognostic value for re-growth in pattern hair loss is shown by the results of a case study which documented that only 55 percent of those with vs. 77 percent of those without either fibrosis or inflammation demonstrated a response to topical minoxidil therapy.”