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#1

Hey Pete:

Elias aint very accommodating when it comes to returning email. I have emailed him twice, once to ask for an ingredients list and once to ask him how long it takes to ship to the US. I emailed him these questions two weeks ago with no reply at all.


#2

» Hey Pete:
»
» Elias aint very accommodating when it comes to returning email. I have
» emailed him twice, once to ask for an ingredients list and once to ask him
» how long it takes to ship to the US. I emailed him these questions two
» weeks ago with no reply at all.

The ingredients reverse the immunal response associated with hairloss.
When I know what the ingredients are I’ll post them.

Regards
Pete


#3

See http://www.calosol.com/about_calosol.php?a_aid=&a_bid= for a list of ingredients. Where did you come up with the Ethno Botanical site that you posted???


#4

» See http://www.calosol.com/about_calosol.php?a_aid=&a_bid= for a list of
» ingredients. Where did you come up with the Ethno Botanical site that you
» posted???

The other site is Elias Alopecia site www.keratin.com users have listed it in the past.

Regards
Pete


#5

» » See http://www.calosol.com/about_calosol.php?a_aid=&a_bid= for a list of
» » ingredients. Where did you come up with the Ethno Botanical site that
» you
» » posted???
»
»
» The other site is Elias Alopecia site www.keratin.com users have listed it
» in the past.
»
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

The site you mention also carry HZ 1 which is a cutting edge Epilobium formula which I came across some years ago.

Regards
Pete


#6

What is Epilobium , what does it do ?


#7

» What is Epilobium , what does it do ?

Ive been posting about it for a couple of years - its a single herb which reduces DHT and Estradiol whilst keeping Testosterone levels up.

Whereas, supplements that ONLY block DHT will actually convert the excess Testosterone into Estradiol hence you get side effects!

Regards
Pete

p.s has everyone here had to re-register there id’s to get a log on sorted?


#8

“Inhibition of 5 alpha-reductase and aromatase by the ellagitannins oenothein A and oenothein B from Epilobium species.”

Planta Med 1997 Apr;63(2):111-4

Ducrey B, Marston A, Gohring S, Hartmann RW, Hostettmann K. (Institut de Pharmacognosie et Phytochimie, Universite de Lausanne, Switzerland.)

Species of the genus Epilobium (Onagraceae) have been investigated for their activity against 5 alpha-reductase and aromatase, two enzymes which are involved in the aetiology of benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). Activity-guided fractionation has led to the identification of two macrocyclic ellagitannins, oenothein A (1) and oenothein B (2), as the main constituents responsible for the inhibition of the two enzymes. Quantitation of oenothein B in 10 different species of Epilobium has shown that amounts of up to 14% in the crude plant extracts are possible. PMID: 9140222 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

"Anti-inflammatory effects of a substance extracted from Epilobium angustifolium."
Agents Actions 1988 Feb;23(1-2):106-7

Juan H, Sametz W, Hiermann A. (Institut fur experimentelle und klinische Pharmakologie, Universitat Graz, Austria.)

PMID: 3354371 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

"Determination of oenothein B as the active 5-alpha-reductase-inhibiting principle of the folk medicine Epilobium parviflorum."
J Nat Prod 1996 May;59(5):490-2

Lesuisse D, Berjonneau J, Ciot C, Devaux P, Doucet B, Gourvest JF, Khemis B, Lang C, Legrand R, Lowinski M, Maquin P, Parent A, Schoot B, Teutsch G. (Centre de Recherche ROUSSEL UCLAF, Roumainville, France.)

Several extracts from Epilobium parviflorum, a plant used in Central Europe for the treatment of prostate disorders, were evaluated in a biochemical assay with 5-alpha-reductase. The aqueous extract displaying inhibition of the enzyme was analyzed, the fraction responsible for this activity was purified, and the active compound identified as a macrocyclic tannin, oenothein B (1). PMID: 8778238 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


#9

» p.s has everyone here had to re-register there id’s to get a log on
» sorted?

Not sure if I know exactly what you mean.

To register an account, try this link. You don’t have to register to post, but if you do register, there are a few enhancements that may save you time. For example, you don’t have to do the math before posting if you have a registered username.

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/register.php


#10

Lipoxidil has their Epilobium A/B topical:

Proestin-AB

liposomal Oneothein A and B ( Epilobium ) solution

50 ml 1.7 oz


#11

who says there is extra testosterone with DHT blockers…the natural DHT blockers do not change blood levels of testosterone or DHT , prop does

» » What is Epilobium , what does it do ?
»
»
» Ive been posting about it for a couple of years - its a single herb which
» reduces DHT and Estradiol whilst keeping Testosterone levels up.
»
»
» Whereas, supplements that ONLY block DHT will actually convert the excess
» Testosterone into Estradiol hence you get side effects!
»
»
» Regards
» Pete
»
» p.s has everyone here had to re-register there id’s to get a log on
» sorted?


#12

» who says there is extra testosterone with DHT blockers…the natural
» DHT blockers do not change blood levels of testosterone or DHT , prop
» does

Well if they block DHT, then the DHT must go somewhere, it doesn’t just disappear, does it?


#13

Epilobium is supposed to be used as a topical and not to be taken internally like a supplement? I thought it s a pill or something.


#14

» Epilobium is supposed to be used as a topical and not to be taken
» internally like a supplement? I thought it s a pill or something.

It’s both. I prefer topically…especially when it comes to dht.


#15

» » Epilobium is supposed to be used as a topical and not to be taken
» » internally like a supplement? I thought it s a pill or something.
»
» It’s both. I prefer topically…especially when it comes to dht.

To slow down loss ive posted what i think should help in another thread. If you want me to respost it I can.

Topically - an androgen blockade will not produce the results that you wish. Look for a topical thast is focused on lowering the immunal reponse and supporting regrowth.

Regards
Pete


#16

» » » Epilobium is supposed to be used as a topical and not to be taken
» » » internally like a supplement? I thought it s a pill or something.
» »
» » It’s both. I prefer topically…especially when it comes to dht.
»
»
» To slow down loss ive posted what i think should help in another thread.
» If you want me to respost it I can.
»
» Topically - an androgen blockade will not produce the results that you
» wish. Look for a topical thast is focused on lowering the immunal reponse
» and supporting regrowth.
»
»

Feel free to repost it.

Topically you’re dealing with it where it’s needed. DHT does a body good elsewhere.


#17

» » who says there is extra testosterone with DHT blockers…the
» natural
» » DHT blockers do not change blood levels of testosterone or DHT , prop
» » does
»
» Well if they block DHT, then the DHT must go somewhere, it doesn’t just
» disappear, does it?

what if they didnt block it? the same amount would still be present.
if they block it, the same amount is still present,no difference


#18

» » » » Epilobium is supposed to be used as a topical and not to be taken
» » » » internally like a supplement? I thought it s a pill or something.
» » »
» » » It’s both. I prefer topically…especially when it comes to dht.
» »
» »
» » To slow down loss ive posted what i think should help in another
» thread.
» » If you want me to respost it I can.
» »
» » Topically - an androgen blockade will not produce the results that you
» » wish. Look for a topical thast is focused on lowering the immunal
» reponse
» » and supporting regrowth.
» »
» »
»
» Feel free to repost it.
»
» Topically you’re dealing with it where it’s needed.

Please explain “DHT does a body good elsewhere” - considering DHT is implicated in prostate cancer ?

Regards
Pete


#19

»
»
»
»
» Please explain “DHT does a body good elsewhere” - considering DHT is
» implicated in prostate cancer ?
»
»
» Regards
» Pete

Oh come on Pete…we’ve been through this before. Here’s a thread on it(with my favorite article)…also notice the use of a dht gel to TREAT prostate problems…in another post in this thread: http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=9&topic_id=7979&mode=full

See also: http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=32&topic_id=2098&mode=full & http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=10&topic_id=4466&mesg_id=4466&page=


#20

» »
» »
» »
» »
» » Please explain “DHT does a body good elsewhere” - considering DHT is
» » implicated in prostate cancer ?
» »
» »
» » Regards
» » Pete
»
» Oh come on Pete…we’ve been through this before. Here’s a thread on
» it(with my favorite article)…also notice the use of a dht gel to TREAT
» prostate problems…in another post in this thread:
» http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=9&topic_id=7979&mode=full
»
» See also:
» http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=32&topic_id=2098&mode=full
» &
» http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=10&topic_id=4466&mesg_id=4466&page=

Thanks - I dont agree for the reasons that I have been posting about for the past few years on this board.

Regards
Pete