ARMANIs insider info :)

Stem cell; cell based hair therapy
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» Maybe this hm in 18 months thing was Armarni telling people about the
» follica roumors?

Armani has so many consultants posting here, if it was true, I am sure one of them would have said something already. Also, it didn’t say what is the technology.

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» Ok guys I thought I’ll cheer you up. I must admit I do not put much value
» on this information but there’s this topic called “Baldness cure likely in
» five years” .
»
» You should read that.

I hope I am wrong, any HM news that come from a hair transplant doctor reminds me of Gho and Bazan’s bait and switch tactics. 5 years could be anything or just a general prediction which means nothing as we know by now.

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» Ok guys I thought I’ll cheer you up. I must admit I do not put much value
» on this information but there’s this topic called “Baldness cure likely in
» five years” .
»
» You should read that.

I could not find the topic you are talking about, can someone send the link please

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But I thought Intercytex was dead and buried (according to the geniuses on this forum):wink:

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» But I thought Intercytex was dead and buried (according to the geniuses on
» this forum):wink:

I believe the general consesus was:

i) Some people on this board over-over-hyped the time to market and results for Intercytex. And now we don’t need to listen to those guys anymore :slight_smile:

ii) Intercytex is definitely Not dead, however, as per Dr. Kemp’s Interview it’s nowhere near commercialization. Phase-II ends in 2009, and then they have to plan and start phase-III before commercialization so its far off - at least 3-4 years.

iii) People shouldn’t expect a head full of hair either, from the first generation TRC.

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» Monday, June 02, 2008

Thanks for posting. There’s some new information in this article. Some comments…

» Its creators, Cambridge-based biotechnology firm Intercytex, say it could
» ‘revolutionise’ the treatment of baldness - and be available in as little
» as five years.

There’s that mythical 5 year estimate again. That would put us into 2013. This assumes, of course, that they find a partner to help develop this treatment, and that the technical hurdles can be overcome.

» Success rates were as high as 80 per cent when a powerful abrasive
» technique was used to stimulate the scalp ahead of the injections, an
» Italian conference heard.

Now we know the ‘pre-treatment’ they’ve been using: abrasion. Maybe not by accident, it’s the same pre-treatment that Follica is using. I have to wonder how much the abrasion itself is contributing to the results Intercytex is seeing.

» 'People will use this when they are starting to go bald…They can keep
» coming back as the balding process continues.

We really need a cure for MPB, and this is definintely NOT a cure. Having to undergo repeated, expensive procedures for 30 years is not cool. But, of course, I will certainly be very happy when treatments like this and Follica hit the market.

» The process is not entirely painfree, with a typical bald head needing
» around 1,000 injections, with each jab penetrating 3mm into the skin.

How many hairs will 1,000 injections grow? 1,000 hairs? Even being optimistic and assuming each injection produces a normal bundle (as opposed to a single hair), that’s only 2,000-3,000 hairs. While this is comparable to a single hair transplant procedure, it’s not really that much considering a normal head of hair contains ~ 100,000 hairs. Perhaps the number of injections will be in proportion to the degree of hair loss…one would hope, anyway, because a 1,000 isn’t that much.

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» I believe the general consesus was:
»
» i) Some people on this board over-over-hyped the time to market and
» results for Intercytex. And now we don’t need to listen to those guys
» anymore :slight_smile:
»
» ii) Intercytex is definitely Not dead, however, as per Dr. Kemp’s
» Interview it’s nowhere near commercialization. Phase-II ends in 2009, and
» then they have to plan and start phase-III before commercialization so its
» far off - at least 3-4 years.
»
» iii) People shouldn’t expect a head full of hair either, from the first
» generation TRC.

I think you hit the nail on the head, especially with the 3rd point. Guys were expecting too much, too soon.

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NEVER EVER forget that Intercytex committed itself in its official public communication to STOP if it does not find a strong partner.Frankly guys do you think that a corporation that trusts its technology as the cure for mighty MPB would hesitate and even think about stopping everything if no partner is found .Im pessimistic that’s all but I truly hope to be wrong.
Also it seems that the Intercytex doctors are getting “ispired” by the findings of Cotsarelis and Follica. The talk about this kind of stimulation is quite new to them.

PS : dorvan : are you looking for that press article : if thats it google times online intercytex and go for a june report.

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» NEVER EVER forget that Intercytex committed itself in its official public
» communication to STOP if it does not find a strong partner.Frankly guys do
» you think that a corporation that trusts its technology as the cure for
» mighty MPB would hesitate and even think about stopping everything if no
» partner is found .Im pessimistic that’s all but I truly hope to be wrong.
» Also it seems that the Intercytex doctors are getting “ispired” by the
» findings of Cotsarelis and Follica. The talk about this kind of stimulation
» is quite new to them.
»
» PS : dorvan : are you looking for that press article : if thats it google
» times online intercytex and go for a june report.

No amilcar I am looking for the thread where Armani said 18 months story. Thanks

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» » NEVER EVER forget that Intercytex committed itself in its official
» public
» » communication to STOP if it does not find a strong partner.Frankly guys
» do
» » you think that a corporation that trusts its technology as the cure for
» » mighty MPB would hesitate and even think about stopping everything if
» no
» » partner is found .Im pessimistic that’s all but I truly hope to be
» wrong.
» » Also it seems that the Intercytex doctors are getting “ispired” by the
» » findings of Cotsarelis and Follica. The talk about this kind of
» stimulation
» » is quite new to them.
» »
» » PS : dorvan : are you looking for that press article : if thats it
» google
» » times online intercytex and go for a june report.
»
» No amilcar I am looking for the thread where Armani said 18 months story.
» Thanks

It was posted here I guess the moderator doesn’t allow the link, just google, you haven’t missed much, it’s blowing smoke in my opinion

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» Also it seems that the Intercytex doctors are getting “ispired” by the
» findings of Cotsarelis and Follica. The talk about this kind of stimulation
» is quite new to them.
»

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» “I think he tries to sell potential clients into those low hairlines by
» reassuring them HM is just around the corner.”
»
» When I went in for my first surgery Dr. Armani did not use HM being right
» around the corner to sell me on getting a HT to rebuild my hairline. Dr.
» Armani examined me, and came up with a long term plan involving a 2nd
» surgery for my crown to fit my hairloss needs.
»
» He does not use HM as a marketing tool to get people into the chair.

I’ve seen posts on other forums where he did just that - discount donor supply because HM was just around the corner.

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» » “I think he tries to sell potential clients into those low hairlines by
» » reassuring them HM is just around the corner.”
» »
» » When I went in for my first surgery Dr. Armani did not use HM being
» right
» » around the corner to sell me on getting a HT to rebuild my hairline.
» Dr.
» » Armani examined me, and came up with a long term plan involving a 2nd
» » surgery for my crown to fit my hairloss needs.
» »
» » He does not use HM as a marketing tool to get people into the chair.
»
» I’ve seen posts on other forums where he did just that - discount donor
» supply because HM was just around the corner.
»
»
»
» .

People must be really hungry for hair multiplication news in this forum, just a simple “around the corner” comment by armani can get everyone so excited, how gullible, I guess it’s true that there is one born every minute :smiley:

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Please provide links to those posts. I don’t recall ever seeing one.

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Anyone from Armani’s offices/surgeries want to confirm or not - please?

The representives of Armani’s office are always here,watching and posting,so come on spill the beans - What do you know,if you do not know,please ask!

We all want your opinion,views on HM or the knowledge of what Dr Armani as stated,or supposed to of stated.

It would be greater if Dr Armani can let us know,whats what himself.

We are all waiting on your words!

Roll on HM!

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» Anyone from Armani’s offices/surgeries want to confirm or not - please?
»
» The representives of Armani’s office are always here,watching and
» posting,so come on spill the beans - What do you know,if you do not
» know,please ask!
»
» We all want your opinion,views on HM or the knowledge of what Dr Armani as
» stated,or supposed to of stated.
»
» It would be greater if Dr Armani can let us know,whats what himself.
»
» We are all waiting on your words!
»
» Roll on HM!

Give it up already, he made a casual remark and you guys holding on to every syllable like gospel.

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» Give it up already, he made a casual remark and you guys holding on to
» every syllable like gospel.

Was it really a casual remark? how do you know?

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» » Give it up already, he made a casual remark and you guys holding on to
» » every syllable like gospel.
»
» Was it really a casual remark? how do you know?

I am sure if it was anything important it would have been all over his website already.

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» » Was it really a casual remark? how do you know?
»
» I am sure if it was anything important it would have been all over his
» website already.

What I meant was, if Armani said that to his patient who is about to get an HT, and saying something like this would obviously affect that patient’s decision, and Armani made it up then it is Fraud. Otherwise, there is truth to it, which means its not casual - at least not for me and I’d like to know more about it.

Personally, I don’t see how a doctor who is about to get thousands of dollars from his patient can make a casual remark like that. It’s either true or it’s a lie!

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»It’s either true or it’s a lie!»

you get paid for such awesome detective work?
haha just playin