Commanderfink, may I ask how you determined which doctor to choose for your bht test?
» I have personally seen Timetesteds bh results and they did grow longer.
» This is old news! Also “Published in the British Journal of Plastic Surgery
» December 2004
» The Woods Techniques revolutionary discovery that body hair can be used as
» an effective and viable donor source in hair transplantation was a world
» first. However, that body hair can grow longer once transplanted and assume
» the haracteristics of normal scalp hair is truly remarkable”
» Characteristics means length .
» http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WC6-4D5P3YH-F&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=e86049e19acda91b87b7cb79976fe669
Dear Franklin,
For sake of newbies, let us be clear.
Over numerous, and I mean hundredrs, not a couple, we know hair do not change characteristics.
This was a hype created by certain doctors (including your last doctor) a few years back and prospective patients need to be aware. The transpalnted hair are not going to change their characteristics. Body and beard hair can be used for transplant as long as the transplanting doctor and patient remember that they are not going to change their characteristics.
Let us not vitiate the environment by such fallacies.
Regards,
Dr. A
» Damrack,
»
» That is not true… The picture at hand is only showing the difference in
» the coarseness between the examples of the beard and scalp hair. But what
» is compelling here is this…
»
» 1. The scalp hairs are miniaturized.
»
» 2. No one posts pictures and pictures of scalp hairs and beard hairs that
» are compared… only one or two pictures.
»
» 3. Beard hairs are the best body hairs to transplant but again they mainly
» come in one haired grafts.
»
» I applaud the picture but it is flawed by the fact that the scalp hair is
» miniaturized.
»
» Heck one could say the left hairs look like scalp hairs and the the right
» are leg hairs. I have seen it both ways.
Dear hairtech,
That is a comparison picture of a transplanted beard hair v/s a non minaturised scalp hair.
Please take care to verify before you post.
Regards,
Dr. A
» I noticed this morning that at some of the extraction sites little black
» hairs are popping up right smack in the middle of the site. what does this
» mean?
Commanderfink, any update? do you see more little black hairs are popping up ? what did Dr Epstein say?
So Dr. A…
No dis-respect… but I guess we are all supposed to realize or believe based on your words that this picture is a non-miniaturized scalp hair compared to a course beard hair. This may be correct but one picture does not it paint a clear scientific picture.
This is the part of medicine that I have to stand up and say… prove it. Prove that that all beard hairs are this course in comparison scalp hairs. This is only one comparison at hand. And I gave my opinion… which is I might not be a physician but I have been in this industry long enough to tell you that you probably need more than one comparison to provide a valid consensus here.
» So Dr. A…
»
» No dis-respect… but I guess we are all supposed to realize or believe
» based on your words that this picture is a non-miniaturized scalp hair
» compared to a course beard hair. This may be correct but one picture does
» not it paint a clear scientific picture.
»
» This is the part of medicine that I have to stand up and say… prove it.
» Prove that that all beard hairs are this course in comparison scalp hairs.
» This is only one comparison at hand. And I gave my opinion… which is I
» might not be a physician but I have been in this industry long enough to
» tell you that you probably need more than one comparison to provide a valid
» consensus here.
hairtech you should practice what you preach.
» So Dr. A…
»
» No dis-respect… but I guess we are all supposed to realize or believe
» based on your words that this picture is a non-miniaturized scalp hair
» compared to a course beard hair. This may be correct but one picture does
» not it paint a clear scientific picture.
»
» This is the part of medicine that I have to stand up and say… prove it.
» Prove that that all beard hairs are this course in comparison scalp hairs.
» This is only one comparison at hand. And I gave my opinion… which is I
» might not be a physician but I have been in this industry long enough to
» tell you that you probably need more than one comparison to provide a valid
» consensus here.
Does anyone think that these hairs actually grew on the surface it shows below them?
Isn’t the surface on which this hairs show some kind of a bleached cotton,surgical roll,or swab?
If the beard hairs shown here were transplanted,(on a scalp I assume)why were they cut and put on cotton material,instead remaining were they were transplanted,among hairs from scalp ?Just asking,I don’t understand.
This is ridiculous, we have got a picture of ONE beard hair and 3 scalp hairs and we are supposed to extrapolate anything meaningful from that ?!?!
You may not appreciate hairtech calling it how he sees it (personally I DO appreciate it - makes a refreshing change from Cheerleaders) but you will notice Dr. A is fundamentally AGREEING with him.
The consensus from people with the experience is that generally with body hair you get WYSIWIG (IF it grows at all - which seems to be a pretty big ‘if’), there do seem to be freak occurrences where they get better than that.
Similarly if you have a number of loaves and fishes you will be able to feed only a set number of people, there does seem to possibly be at least one freak case where they got better than that 
» » So Dr. A…
» »
» » No dis-respect… but I guess we are all supposed to realize or believe
» » based on your words that this picture is a non-miniaturized scalp hair
» » compared to a course beard hair. This may be correct but one picture
» does
» » not it paint a clear scientific picture.
» »
» » This is the part of medicine that I have to stand up and say… prove
» it.
» » Prove that that all beard hairs are this course in comparison scalp
» hairs.
» » This is only one comparison at hand. And I gave my opinion… which is
» I
» » might not be a physician but I have been in this industry long enough
» to
» » tell you that you probably need more than one comparison to provide a
» valid
» » consensus here.
»
» Does anyone think that these hairs actually grew on the surface it shows
» below them?
» Isn’t the surface on which this hairs show some kind of a bleached
» cotton,surgical roll,or swab?
»
» If the beard hairs shown here were transplanted,(on a scalp I assume)why
» were they cut and put on cotton material,instead remaining were they were
» transplanted,among hairs from scalp ?Just asking,I don’t understand.
Ridiculous, Dr. A does it all the time to make it easy to compare, you are saying he is trying to pull a stunt to fool posters.
» » » So Dr. A…
» » »
» » » No dis-respect… but I guess we are all supposed to realize or
» believe
» » » based on your words that this picture is a non-miniaturized scalp
» hair
» » » compared to a course beard hair. This may be correct but one picture
» » does
» » » not it paint a clear scientific picture.
» » »
» » » This is the part of medicine that I have to stand up and say… prove
» » it.
» » » Prove that that all beard hairs are this course in comparison scalp
» » hairs.
» » » This is only one comparison at hand. And I gave my opinion… which
» is
» » I
» » » might not be a physician but I have been in this industry long enough
» » to
» » » tell you that you probably need more than one comparison to provide a
» » valid
» » » consensus here.
» »
» » Does anyone think that these hairs actually grew on the surface it
» shows
» » below them?
» » Isn’t the surface on which this hairs show some kind of a bleached
» » cotton,surgical roll,or swab?
» »
» » If the beard hairs shown here were transplanted,(on a scalp I
» assume)why
» » were they cut and put on cotton material,instead remaining were they
» were
» » transplanted,among hairs from scalp ?Just asking,I don’t understand.
»
» Ridiculous, Dr. A does it all the time to make it easy to compare, you are
» saying he is trying to pull a stunt to fool posters.
I did not say any of the sort.You did.I don’t even know the source of the presented picture.I don’t know the source has anything to do with Dr.A.But,if you are right,and it was done for "easy to compare ",I think that it is very nice that the hairs are cut,put on a cotton surface,and marked which is which,for easy comparison.
But,why make the comparison easy?
If you want true comparison leave the transplanted beard hair among the scalp hairs and present it as it is.That would be much surer indication,of how it looks,on the head.
Some folks probably have thicker beard/body hair than head hair. That’s
» when the tables get turned on the traditional HT assumptions.
»
That seems to be the consensus, because the majority of people who do opt for BHT hardly even have much body hair based on the pictures ive seen. Now my body hair literally is thicker and stronger and grows faster then my scalp hair, and boy do i have alot of it. Does that increase my success rate more then the average caucasian man with flimsy body hair. if i ever try BHT transplants? I might even take a picture if anyone wants to get scared.
» Some folks probably have thicker beard/body hair than head hair.
» That’s
» » when the tables get turned on the traditional HT assumptions.
» »
»
» That seems to be the consensus, because the majority of people who do opt
» for BHT hardly even have much body hair based on the pictures ive seen. Now
» my body hair literally is thicker and stronger and grows faster then my
» scalp hair, and boy do i have alot of it. Does that increase my success
» rate more then the average caucasian man with flimsy body hair. if i ever
» try BHT transplants? I might even take a picture if anyone wants to get
» scared.
I emailed the doc. He sayd from what he saw the hairs and follicles were removaed and he is very confident the grafts will grow. He asked me toc wait a bit.
so i guess im pretty screwd.
» » » » So Dr. A…
» » » »
» » » » No dis-respect… but I guess we are all supposed to realize or
» » believe
» » » » based on your words that this picture is a non-miniaturized scalp
» » hair
» » » » compared to a course beard hair. This may be correct but one
» picture
» » » does
» » » » not it paint a clear scientific picture.
» » » »
» » » » This is the part of medicine that I have to stand up and say…
» prove
» » » it.
» » » » Prove that that all beard hairs are this course in comparison scalp
» » » hairs.
» » » » This is only one comparison at hand. And I gave my opinion… which
» » is
» » » I
» » » » might not be a physician but I have been in this industry long
» enough
» » » to
» » » » tell you that you probably need more than one comparison to provide
» a
» » » valid
» » » » consensus here.
» » »
» » » Does anyone think that these hairs actually grew on the surface it
» » shows
» » » below them?
» » » Isn’t the surface on which this hairs show some kind of a bleached
» » » cotton,surgical roll,or swab?
» » »
» » » If the beard hairs shown here were transplanted,(on a scalp I
» » assume)why
» » » were they cut and put on cotton material,instead remaining were they
» » were
» » » transplanted,among hairs from scalp ?Just asking,I don’t understand.
» »
» » Ridiculous, Dr. A does it all the time to make it easy to compare, you
» are
» » saying he is trying to pull a stunt to fool posters.
»
» I did not say any of the sort.You did.I don’t even know the source of the
» presented picture.I don’t know the source has anything to do with
» Dr.A.But,if you are right,and it was done for "easy to compare ",I think
» that it is very nice that the hairs are cut,put on a cotton surface,and
» marked which is which,for easy comparison.
»
» But,why make the comparison easy?
»
» If you want true comparison leave the transplanted beard hair among the
» scalp hairs and present it as it is.That would be much surer indication,of
» how it looks,on the head.
The pic was taken from youngman’s thread, he is one of Arvind’s patients. you can confront youngman and see if that was really taken from his scalp.
HairTech, I believe I saw where you worked for the Doctor that I had work done in 2003-2005. I remember he wanted to try some BH work then but I declined as I was not sure about this procedure. My problem now is the frontal FUE work that was done then and looked OK in 2006, now is mostly gone. To be fair, this is not the first time grafts in the frontal section have not lasted for me. My question is would I have any luck with Body hair or am I one the percantages where transplant just do not last, Thanks