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#1

All Supplements Are Not Created Equal

TO TAKE OR NOT TO TAKE?.., THAT IS THE QUESTION

"Food supplements were invented because people’s well being left something to be desired. Our bodies have only the resources we consume from which to take materials to generate and maintain our cells. The difference between nutrient-depleted food and nutrient-rich fresh grains, fruits and vegetables can be the difference between being vitally healthy, or desperately ill. Modern farming practices and food processing are rapidly depleting the raw materials and biological life in the food chain, and the toll it is taking can be counted in the statistics of illness and death. In a world where modern agriculture thinks it makes sense to grow food in deficient soil, bathed in pesticides and herbicides, picking produce green to be gas-aged in storage to create the illusion of being ripe, irradiating any sign of life left, supplements provide a much needed resource.

Unknown to most consumers worldwide, there are no brand name vitamin companies that actually manufacture their own vitamin material. They may create the formulas and manufacture the tablets, but they do not create the vitamin material. It is all manufactured by 14 companies worldwide and seven of them are located in the United States.

IN THE UNITED STATES THERE ARE ONLY SEVEN COMPANIES THAT MANUFACTURE VITAMINS

The seven Companies Are:

  1. Pfizer Chemicals Division.
  2. Fine Chemicals Division—Henkel Corporation.
  3. Takeda USA—Takeda Chemical Industries, LTD.
  4. Roche Chemical Division—Hoffman LaRoche.
  5. Archer Daniels Midland Corporation.
  6. Chemicals Division—BASF Wyandotte Corp.
  7. Eastman Chemical Company

100% of the vitamins made by these companies are synthetic or identical to synthetic. They are all made to an internationally accepted standard referred to as USP-grade (United States Pharmacopoeia) of FCC (Food Chemical Codex) vitamin material, in other words, free-form vitamin molecules without their natural food attachments.

Among these are vitamins derived from so-called ”natural sources,” and even these are stripped of their natural protein bonds and other food attachments, including enzymes. They frequently contain detectable amounts of petroleum-based extraction solvents such as Hexane. Almost all vitamins on the market today, whether labeled ”natural source” or ”natural base,” have been so processed as to leave them in a totally unnatural free form, not in the natural form in which nutrients are delivered in food.

What Is a Vitamin?

There are different points of view about vitamin and mineral molecules. The commonly held belief is that molecules are molecules, and all you need to do is put the molecules in the body in order for them to be put to use. Traditionally, the field of biochemistry has believed that elements can be removed and segregated from their natural constituents and still retain their original or natural effectiveness. But if we use the nutrients in food as our model, which is the delivery system used by nature to evolve human life over millions of years, then what we find is that vitamins and minerals as found in food are always an integral part of a complex matrix of nutrient factors that is essential.

“Food” & “Natural” Defined:
“Food,” as defined by Webster’s, is “material, usually of plant or animal origin, containing or consisting of essential body nutrients, as carbohydrates, fats, proteins, vitamins, or minerals, taken in and assimilated by an organism to maintain growth and life.”

“Natural,” as defined by Webster’s, is “present in or produced by nature.”

By these definitions, saying nutrients are in a “natural” form implies that they are either what nature itself produced in the form nature produced it, or they are “like” food as we understand the wholistic nature of food to be, complexed to proteins, carbohydrates and lipids, with other food attachments in close association.

Almost without exception, all vitamins utilized in the manufacturing of supplements are made from what are called hydrocarbonaceous intermediates. So they can technically be called “natural,” since they can be said to be derived from “natural sources.” But their isolated state is not at all the same as their “natural form” as found in food.

According to the redefinitions of technology, what is natural as nature created it, may not qualify as “natural” as technology defines it. When research scientists discovered how to isolate d-alpha tocopherol from food in a lab, for example, the accepted generic term for that structure came to be known as “Natural Source Vitamin E.” D-alpha tocopherol, however, does not exist as an isolated molecule in food. Food contains multiple tocopherols in a highly complex molecular structure that assures that “dl,” rather than “d,” is present. Isolated pure molecules rotate light, and once molecules are isolated to reveal their exact structure, molecularly the form they take can no longer be considered food. Thus, D-alpha tocopherol is not food as nature defines it, and wholistically it is not vitamin E as nature creates it. Still, patents exist for synthesizing d-alpha tocopherol, which is then labelled “Natural Source Vitamin E,” and the impression given to those buying and consuming it, is that they are getting something nature created as it would be found in food.

If one accepts the definition of “Natural Source Vitamin E” as it has conventionally been accepted, vitamin E as found in food cannot pass the test to be called “Natural Source Vitamin E.” Only the pure, free-state d-alpha tocopherol molecule can pass that test.

Food Is a Complex Life Form
Nutrients in food are never in a ”free-form,” meaning they do not exist in food as isolates. They are in a relationship. Food contains water and/or fat-soluble nutrients bound into a matrix of highly complex interlocking systems of proteins, carbohydrates, lipids, enzymes, co-enzymes, nucleic acids, and countless other naturally-occurring elements. When this food is consumed, scientific evidence strongly suggests that proteins are the only transport mechanisms for nutrients in all known living systems. Plants only contain nutrients molecularly bound into relationships, and nature designed the human body to use vitamins and minerals the way they exist in plants. In that design, vitamins and minerals are always bound to soluble proteins, found or associated with carbohydrates, lipids and other naturally occurring constituents. This is not just a blend of isolates. It is a wholistic relationship. This integration is what is compromised in food processing.

Because of food’s complexity, its exact structure cannot be identified by using analytical chemistry. Attempts to do this so separate its many parts that it is rendered into free-form chemical isolates that can no longer be considered food. What we do know, is that bioavailability–i.e. utilization–is the whole point of nature’s design for delivering vitamins, minerals and other essential elements to the body’s cells via food, and USP vitamin and mineral material lacks the naturally-occurring transport proteins molecularly bound to vitamins and minerals as found in food.

Minerals, too, never exist as inorganic salts or gluconates in plant or animal food groups as they are typically offered in the marketplace, and because inorganic minerals are not effectively utilized by the body, some companies attempt to improve their absorption and utilization by chelating them to an amino acid, which is a chemical technique essentially gluing things together to mimic nature’s molecular bond. It is the attempt to take something unnatural and trick our bodies into thinking it is natural, as nature defines that.

Even amino acids, the building blocks of proteins, in the form of chelates are made with isolated soy proteins which are rendered completely insoluble by a chemical process which also removes most of the lipids and carbohydrates associated with them in the soybean. The phosphoproteins are destroyed in this process, and the RNA/DNA (of which the backbone is phosphorus) is decomposed. As far as mineral transportation is concerned, these isolated proteins are dead.

Bioflavonoids (biologically-active antioxidants involved in maintaining the integrity of the cell wall), are another example, present as dozens of groups and subgroups, bound together in a soluble form, in turn, bound to soluble proteins and associated with soluble carbohydrates. In plants, all vitamins are associated with soluble natural-form bioflavonoid groups whose relationship to vitamin C is especially well known, and many companies dry mix them together for that reason. Still, their relationship to all other vitamins has historically been overlooked or ignored; thus, most bioflavonoids on the market today are not in nature’s form. They have been rendered completely insoluble by a chemical process which isolates one or more groups (such as hesperidin) from the rest. Most of the proteins and carbohydrates are removed, leaving the insoluble isolate, which is then dried. It is often then diluted with other fruit constituents, and the whole blend is labeled ”bioflavonoid complex.” Legally it can still be labeled ”natural,” even though the state it is in is artificial and ”unnatural.”

With little understanding about which group or sets of groups may be responsible for the biological activity, there has been an assumption that the discarded or decomposed groups are not useful, since science does not yet know how they might be useful. For years, experts dismissed the importance of bioflavonoids and flavonols, thinking them discardable because they didn’t know what role these elements fulfilled in human health, only to now find that these important food constituents may be essential in protecting our bodies from free-radical pathology considered to be the primary cause of multiple diseases and aging. The wisdom of nature that included them was dismissed, and bioflavonoids, in general, were thought to be useless with no therapeutic or nutritional value.

There are many factors in the relationships designed by nature we do not understand, but the benefits clearly stand out over the consequences of interfering with this relationship. This tendency to fragment nature’s wholistic design, and the influence of this upon modern life, has drastically inhibited most people’s likelihood of being adequately nourished or their cells adequately supported with quality materials in the maintenance of their health. Absent a comprehension of the value inherent in nature’s design, there has been little interest in preserving the integrity of that design.

The miraculous wizardry of technology has brought with it an arrogance in which “denatured” is treated as equal to, and in many cases, superior to nature. In fact, the importance of the synergy of nature in its wholistic state and its influence on health cannot be overstated. A basic design function of our immune system is to get rid of things in our bodies that are unnatural, and an immune system chronically challenged by denatured substances never anticipated by nature is an immune system in stress.

Breaking the integrity of the relationship between natural constituents sacrifices the benefit nature designed the relationship to make available. It ignores the question, “How do molecules come together and do what they do?” Indeed, what is it nature provides in the wholistic food complex that inspired the wholistic design? No matter how smart science gets, or how much it understands, technology can only manipulate nature. Chemistry does not evoke Mother Nature, Mother Nature evokes chemistry. That is the driving force behind the ability to organize and cause effects. That life force is what our bodies respond to.

Disturbing nature’s wholistic design has consequences, whether we know what they are, or not. Illustrating the significance of the disruption of nature’s wholistic design in the modern tendency to isolate what science identifies as the active ingredients so as to synthesize them, Dr. Bernard Jensen and Mark Anderson say in their book, Empty Harvest, that: “Combined as two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen, H2O will extinguish fire. It is water. Separately, however, the elements are among the most flammable and explosive elements in the universe. Their functions are exactly the reverse in their isolated state from their organically combined state. Similarly, vitamins function as biological mechanisms only when whole and complete, combined with their synergists, as a whole food…”

The Body Is an Eco-System
Our cells eat, drink, breathe, “go to the bathroom,” generate electricity, do their job, and replicate themselves, twenty four hours a day. Each and every one of them is totally dependent upon the integrity of the resources available to them to perform these functions efficiently. To the extent the quality of these resources is lacking, the quality of the cell’s performance is diminished. Quality goods cannot be created from inferior resources.

When a body’s cells are formed from inferior resources, our bodies are handicapped by a diminished capacity for health that continues to diminish throughout each subsequent generation born and raised on deficient resources. Our bodies have only what we consume to supply the materials with which our cells are generated, maintained and restored. Deficient, processed, adulterated food

In other words, junk in, junk out.

When a body’s cells are formed from inferior resources, our bodies are handicapped by a diminished capacity for health that continues to diminish throughout each subsequent generation born and raised on deficient resources. Our bodies have only what we consume to supply the materials with which our cells are generated, maintained and restored. Deficient, processed, adulterated food provides a deficient quality of material considerably different from what nutrient-rich, non denatured foods produce. A cell membrane made from damaged or deficient raw materials lacks the integrity to fulfill its healthy function. The body is designed for vital health, and nature provides all the resources by which such health can be accomplished and enjoyed. Nature is our ally, and supplementation and food production which looks to nature’s wisdom as its mentor, is nature’s ally. Lifestar and nature are allies.

Until recently, and almost without exception, USP-grade material was the only vitamin material available in the world for formulating and tableting vitamin supplements. Unknown to most consumers, there are no brand name vitamin companies that actually manufacture their own vitamins. There are close to 3,000 brand name vitamin supplements in the marketplace in the United States whose nutrient contents are all purchased through distributors from the same seven sources in the United States or from their seven foreign counterparts. Lifestar products offer an alternative."


#2

nice job of cut and paste, bravo

do you think our fingers are broken and we do not know how to use Google? :rotfl:


#3

Natural vs. Synthetic
(Example: Vitamin E)

"The word natural can, unfortunately, sometimes be misleading. In the case of vitamin E, a manufacturer can use a blend of 10% natural vitamin E and 90% synthetic vitamin E and still label the product natural vitamin E. using synthetic vitamin E, which is 40% cheaper, a manufacturer can greatly reduce the quality of a product to reduce his manufacturing cost.

To protect the consumer, a manufacturer should properly list the chemical name in the contents description. Natural vitamin E begins with d; synthetic begins with dl.

“Natural vitamin E is officially recognized as having 36% greater potency than its synthetic counterpart…However, recent studies of human subjects indicate that natural vitamin E is probably twice as effective as synthetic vitamin E.”

These are just two examples of how to properly read a vitamin label. Your best source of educational support is your health care practitioner. Your practitioner should be able to provide you with even further information verifying why all vitamins are not created equal."


#4

HanginInThere wrote:

"…by the way it has been proven the body is incapable of distinguishing where supplements come from, it just wants them, the nutrients that is. It does not care if the vitamin C comes from an orange , or a supplement, it just wants and needs it

besides where do you think supplements use as the source of their nutrients? you think they manufacture them in a lab? You think kelp supplements are not made from, for example…seaweed?

where do you think saw palmetto supplements come from, DUH saw palmetto plant

nettles root supplements? DUH, nettles roots

whats the difference[?]"

If you’d bother to google, and do some research, then you’d know the difference! Obviously there is a big difference in quality of supplements available. You ever wonder why some hair vitamins can be sold for what, seven or eight bucks a bottle:

Here are some examples, Buckwheat:

"Example B:
Calcium (Gluconate)…1,000 mg.

Example C:
Calcium Gluconate…1,000 mg.

At first glance, Examples B & C appear to be the same formula, but they are not. When, the chelating agent (Example B, gluconate) appears in parentheses, it represents the “source” of the calcium supplied in the formula. The potency of 1,000 mg. listed is the actual amount of elemental calcium you are receiving. However, in Example C, when the chelating agent does not appear in parentheses, the 1,000 mg. represents the weight of the calcium together with gluconic acid, and the amount of calcium you are receiving is only a small percentage of the potency listed. In Example C, you would actually receive only 9.3% or 93 mg. of actual calcium.

Example B is an honest and intelligible label, as it clearly represents the actual amount of elemental calcium the tablet will provide. Example C, although technically not mislabeled, appears to offer much more calcium than is actually provided and is very often misunderstood by consumers.

Natural vs. Synthetic
(Example: Vitamin E)

The word natural can, unfortunately, sometimes be misleading. In the case of vitamin E, a manufacturer can use a blend of 10% natural vitamin E and 90% synthetic vitamin E and still label the product natural vitamin E. using synthetic vitamin E, which is 40% cheaper, a manufacturer can greatly reduce the quality of a product to reduce his manufacturing cost.

To protect the consumer, a manufacturer should properly list the chemical name in the contents description. Natural vitamin E begins with d; synthetic begins with dl.

“Natural vitamin E is officially recognized as having 36% greater potency than its synthetic counterpart…However, recent studies of human subjects indicate that natural vitamin E is probably twice as effective as synthetic vitamin E.”

These are just two examples of how to properly read a vitamin label. Your best source of educational support is your health care practitioner. Your practitioner should be able to provide you with even further information verifying why all vitamins are not created equal."


#5

i guess you lost your recent pics of your regrowth huh? :waving: :clap:

your best source is your health care practictioner? you mean your doctor? Err
hey dumbass, most docs pooh pooh vitamins and supplements know absolutely nothing about them, and get one hour of instruction in med school about this subject.
thats like asking your mechanic how to clean your teeth

you really are a bit dense arent you

mostly you cut and paste stuff from other sites, since you know very little about natural supplements yourself

by the way i said your body cannot tell if a vitamin came from a natural source or a supplement, I did not say that there is not a huge difference in the quality of the supplements out there. Example vitamin C comes from several different sources, Rose hips for example, Depending on the source of the supplement, and also what they use as fillers or binders, etc, the quality can vary widely.

Also it is important to get STANDARDIZED supplements, if you can find them, which means the dosage has been measured and tested and verified, otherwise you do not know what amount of the supplement is actually in each pill or tablet.

Notice I type all of my own opinions, I have no need to pitifully cut and paste entire paragraphs from other websites…:smiley: :smiley:


#6

» Natural vs. Synthetic
» (Example: Vitamin E)
»
» “The word natural can, unfortunately, sometimes be misleading. In the case
» of vitamin E, a manufacturer can use a blend of 10% natural vitamin E and
» 90% synthetic vitamin E and still label the product natural vitamin E.
» using synthetic vitamin E, which is 40% cheaper, a manufacturer can greatly
» reduce the quality of a product to reduce his manufacturing cost.
»
» To protect the consumer, a manufacturer should properly list the chemical
» name in the contents description. Natural vitamin E begins with d;
» synthetic begins with dl.
»
» “Natural vitamin E is officially recognized as having 36% greater potency
» than its synthetic counterpart…However, recent studies of human subjects
» indicate that natural vitamin E is probably twice as effective as synthetic
» vitamin E.”
»
» These are just two examples of how to properly read a vitamin label. Your
» best source of educational support is your health care practitioner. Your
» practitioner should be able to provide you with even further information
» verifying why all vitamins are not created equal.”

again nice cut and paste bozo, shows you personally know nothing and have to rely on google or you would wither and die


#7

» hey dumb ass, most docs pooh pooh vitamins and supplements know absolutely
» nothing about them, and get one hour of instruction in med school about
» this subject.

…and you know this from having attended medical school? How do you know this to be true? You don’t have a medical, masters, or even a bachelors degree according to Hogan. And I’ll take his word over yours any day of the week. Just like I will take Jacob’s word that you doctored (no pun intended :stuck_out_tongue: ) photos to give the appearance of being yours, when in fact, they were not. Despicable!

» mostly you cut and paste stuff from other sites, since you know very
» little about natural supplements yourself

Oh, I know a lot about supplements, having taken them for over ten years. I also post about my own experience with them as well. I will cut and paste when I think the given information might be of interest to others. Stop following me around like some jilted lover.

» C comes from several different sources, Rose hips for example, Depending on
» the source of the supplement, and also what they use as fillers or binders,
» etc, the quality can vary widely.

This is not news.

» Also it is important to get STANDARDIZED supplements, if you can find
» them, which means the dosage has been measured and tested and verified,
» otherwise you do not know what amount of the supplement is actually in each
» pill or tablet.

Again, this is not news.

» Notice I type all of my own opinions, I have no need to pitifully cut and
» paste entire paragraphs from other websites.

Opinions??? Is that what you’re calling your bit of “news.” You did not give an opinion, Huckleberry. Your statements, related to hair loss, are the product of what you read here or somewhere else. You are neither a doctor nor scientist.

At best you are an average reader, poor speller, and a “namakemono,” a lazy deadbeat who’d rather spend his whole day harassing people in hair loss forums, than find some kind of meaningful employment; while your poor Filipino wife must go out and work her ass off all day long to pay the cost of the Internet connection.

Disgrace.


#8

» » hey dumb ass, most docs pooh pooh vitamins and supplements know
» absolutely
» » nothing about them, and get one hour of instruction in med school about
» » this subject.
»

» …and you know this from having attended medical school? How do you know
» this to be true? You don’t have a medical, masters, or even a bachelors
» degree according to Hogan. And I’ll take his word over yours any day of
» the week.

Hogan ? Who is HOgan, oh yes Hogan knows my educational background. Well that is his opinion. My opinion is you got your GED and just barely. Does that make it true?

Just like I will take Jacob’s word that you doctored (no pun
» intended :stuck_out_tongue: ) photos to give the appearance of being yours, when in fact,
» they were not. Despicable!

Jacobs word LOL , Yes well being that you are a coward to post your own pics, I can see your opinion on pics is extremely valuable. :waving: :rotfl:

»
» » mostly you cut and paste stuff from other sites, since you know very
» » little about natural supplements yourself
»
» Oh, I know a lot about supplements, having taken them for over ten years.
» I also post about my own experience with them as well. I will cut and
» paste when I think the given information might be of interest to others.
» Stop following me around like some jilted lover.

LOL , You follow me around on hairsite and the natural supplements board like some stalker, and You are now hurt and cannot come up with a response when i challenged you to post pics…because you are a gutless pussy. so you try to change the topic

»
» » C comes from several different sources, Rose hips for example, Depending
» on
» » the source of the supplement, and also what they use as fillers or
» binders,
» » etc, the quality can vary widely.
»
» This is not news.
»
» » Also it is important to get STANDARDIZED supplements, if you can find
» » them, which means the dosage has been measured and tested and verified,
» » otherwise you do not know what amount of the supplement is actually in
» each
» » pill or tablet.
»
» Again, this is not news.

You never mentioned it because it was not in your particular cut and paste spree information you found. Everything is news to you, Try posting your own opinion instead of mass cutting and pasting, It will reveal what an idiot you are.
»
» » Notice I type all of my own opinions, I have no need to pitifully cut
» and
» » paste entire paragraphs from other websites.
»
» Opinions??? Is that what you’re calling your bit of “news.” You did not
» give an opinion, Huckleberry. Your statements, related to hair loss, are
» the product of what you read here or somewhere else.

My stateements related to supplements are trial and error, unlike you who knows absolutely nothing, You howdy Doody, Doofus,

You are
» neither a doctor nor scientist.

Yes and I suppose you are one of the above? :rotfl:

»
» At best you are an average reader, poor speller, and a “namakemono,” a
» lazy deadbeat who’d rather spend his whole day harassing people in hair
» loss forums, than find some kind of meaningful employment; while your poor
» Filipino wife must go out and work her ass off all day long to pay the cost
» of the Internet connection.

Again I sense your hurt over the fact that your new regimen is not working. Too scared to post pics still? I dont blame you .

»
» Disgrace.

I noticed , you brainless Doofus, that you completely dropped the small discussion we were having that your new regimen works so well. After I said put up or shut up. You chose to run and pee your pants and prove that your regimen is total bull, and you do not have the guts to back it up


#9

You said you have a masters right? but when challenged to prove it you backed up, coughed, started to sweat and tremble, and changed the subject

You said your new regimen was a good foundation for regrowth but didnt mention any regrowth. When embarrassed by me about that topic , you miraculously claimed regrowth, yet you are scared shiiitless to post pics.

Funny how a guy who claims to be an authority on the authenticity of pics is too gutless to post any of his own

I dont blame you though, it would only confirm that you lied about your new regimen.

So far you have proven to be a liar about having a masters and your new regimen working. What is the lie of the day now?


#10

» You said you have a masters right? but when challenged to prove it you
» backed up, coughed, started to sweat and tremble, and changed the subject

False.

» You said your new regimen was a good foundation for regrowth but didnt
» mention any regrowth. When embarrassed by me about that topic , you
» miraculously claimed regrowth

False.

» Funny how a guy who claims to be an authority on the authenticity of pics
» is too gutless to post any of his own.

I believe Jacob when he states that your pictures were fake. Your actions (of taking them down) also tell me that you were trying to deceive this board; nice try, you brownie hound.

» I don’t blame you though, it would only confirm that you lied about your
» new regimen.

False.

» What is the lie of the day now?

Here are some BIG lies:

  1. HanginInThere posted his own pictures. A LIE.
  2. HanginInThere has meaningful employment. A LIE.
  3. Widowspeak loves HanginInThere. A LIE.
  4. HanginInThere has hair on his crown and temples. A LIE.
  5. Regulars use Hangin’s regimen. A LIE.
  6. Hangin’s regimen does not cause male boobies and other undesirable side effects. A LIE.

Shall I continue, Buckwheat?


#11

» » You said you have a masters right? but when challenged to prove it you
» » backed up, coughed, started to sweat and tremble, and changed the
» subject
»
» False.

Then where is the proof you have a masters? Ummmmmmmmmmmm put up or shut up
»
» » You said your new regimen was a good foundation for regrowth but didnt
» » mention any regrowth. When embarrassed by me about that topic , you
» » miraculously claimed regrowth
»
» False.

You claimed regrowth right? or is this false too?
»
» » Funny how a guy who claims to be an authority on the authenticity of
» pics
» » is too gutless to post any of his own.
»
» I believe Jacob when he states that your pictures were fake. Your actions
» (of taking them down) also tell me that you were trying to deceive this
» board; nice try, you brownie hound.
»
» » I don’t blame you though, it would only confirm that you lied about
» your
» » new regimen.
»
» False.

Lets see you are saying you are going to post pics then right?
»
» » What is the lie of the day now?
»
» Here are some BIG lies:
»
» 1. HanginInThere posted his own pictures. A LIE.
You saw the pics right? Ummmmm NOPE. I find it truly pitiful that you would then comment on other guys pics that you have never seen. It makes you look like an idiot. which we all already knew.

» 2. HanginInThere has meaningful employment. A LIE.
Lets see you are jealous since I work at home…True :smiley: :smiley:
Again attempting to change the topic

» 3. Widowspeak loves HanginInThere. A LIE.
Who cares about Widows Peak. It is truly pathetic you have to grasp at straws when your back is up against the wall with this challenge to post your pics of
your miracle regrowth

» 4. HanginInThere has hair on his crown and temples. A LIE.
I have a bald spot on my crown, have always stated this…are you stupid or can you just not read english?

» 5. Regulars use Hangin’s regimen. A LIE.

Again the jealousy surfaces over guys who use my regimen. Why does this bother you so much. Can you show me guys successfully using your regimen. NOPE

» 6. Hangin’s regimen does not cause male boobies and other undesirable
» side effects. A LIE.

This statement is too ridiculous to even try to dispute. You have just confirmed you are retarded

»
» Shall I continue, Buckwheat?

Yes please do.

While you are at it please explain why if your regimen has regrown your see through hair, why you are too gutless to post pics to prove this

Yet you dare to comment on my pics…which you have never even seen

ttuly pathetic


#12

List of The Bald Dimwits hall of shame activities

  1. Comments on pics that other guys posted that he has never even seen. Truly a stroke of desperation.

  2. Gets red faced and jealous each time a poster uses Hangins regimen, and tries to paint these posters as newbies. Must hurt when nobody uses your regimen douchebag

  3. Claims that his own regimen has regrown his see through hair, yet when asked to post pics to back up this claim. The silence is deafening, He wont even dare comment on my challenge, because he knows there is no sane reason to run from the challenge if his claim is in fact true.

  4. Tries to comment on . my employment, my family, my photos that he has never seen. ANYTHING TO TRY TO CHANGE THE TOPIC from his weak crying woman refusal to post his own pictures. Whats wrong , is your hair so bald and see through now that you are ashamed to even think of posting photos? Apparently so. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

  5. He claims to have a masters degree but really barely got out of high school. This is a sickness, it is similar to guys who are losers living in homeless shelters who claim they are decorated war heros, when they were never in the military. This claim of a masters degree would be easy to prove , but again the spineless thing comes in, and the topic is quickly changed when the challenge is made.

Ahhhhh It pains me when I have to expose people as a coward and a hypocrite . but someone has to do it. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :rotfl: